ELITE MONASPA vs EVERY UNIQUE UNIT (Total Resources) | AoE II: DE

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @kell2859
    @kell2859 11 месяцев назад +36

    The civ theme is beautiful

    • @AmirMishel
      @AmirMishel 4 месяца назад

      It is Armenians theme... Because if you look at top right you could see Armenian logo... Or whatever u call that

    • @SvanTowerMan
      @SvanTowerMan 3 месяца назад +2

      @@AmirMishel Wrong. MikeEmpires is playing as the Armenians, but the Monaspa belong to his ally, which is Georgian. And he has the correct theme in the video.

  • @budwyzer77
    @budwyzer77 11 месяцев назад +28

    Did anyone else skip straight ahead to see the Leitis and Keshik matchups?
    Keshiks are extremely cost-effective so it's shocking to see a new cavalry UU beat them on equal resources.

    • @Jerome...
      @Jerome... 11 месяцев назад +9

      Yep ... and they won vs Boyars too ...

    • @donxnik
      @donxnik 11 месяцев назад

      Remember, they occasionally weaken as their numbers dwindle

    • @Bloodark124
      @Bloodark124 11 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@Jerome...I actually don't like how Monaspa beat Boyar. Boyar is supposed to be heavily armoured cavalry or basically Teutonic knights on horses. Wild.
      edit: Also I would take the comparison to Keshik with a grain of salt, since it doesn't include the fact that Keshik generate gold in this video demo.

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 10 месяцев назад +2

      Total resources not equal resources

  • @RiskyDramaUploads
    @RiskyDramaUploads 11 месяцев назад +21

    Lost to Samurai, War Elephant, Mameluke, Teutonic Knight, Kamayuk, Genoese Crossbowman, Leitis (no relics), Flaming Camel, Urumi Swordsman, and Imperial Camel Rider (10 out of 58, but Missionaries and Flaming Camels don't really count).
    Costs less than a Steppe Lancer. But they lost to Leiciai, so they're fine.

    • @donxnik
      @donxnik 11 месяцев назад +2

      Also remember, they occasionally weaken as their numbers dwindle

    • @ordinaryrat
      @ordinaryrat 11 месяцев назад +8

      FLAMING CAMELS COUNT 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪

    • @RiskyDramaUploads
      @RiskyDramaUploads 11 месяцев назад

      @@ordinaryrat I think the way to use flaming camels is to mix them into a regular battle on no-attack stance, so that as many units are next to them as possible when they blow up. Unless you're lucky enough to catch units in line formation, which melee units never will be in these videos

    • @georgeprchal3924
      @georgeprchal3924 10 месяцев назад +1

      Every melee unit aside the Cataphract and War Elephant loses to the Teutonic Knight.

    • @Orkeanos
      @Orkeanos 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@georgeprchal3924what about leitis?

  • @JJBeauregard1
    @JJBeauregard1 10 месяцев назад +7

    They have a lot going on beside being a "mass glass cannon" type unit. 8 armor for a unit like that seems a bit random to me but it's what gives them the edge in those melee match-ups.

  • @quaintserpent
    @quaintserpent 11 месяцев назад +23

    Very interesting unit. 🙌🏻 I like the fact it has high attack and medium armor however hp is low for a heavy cavalry. Also bonus is unusual. Very balanced unit in my opinion. 👌🏻

    • @Hardcore_Remixer
      @Hardcore_Remixer 11 месяцев назад

      It is meant to counter melee units which don't have a bonus against cavalry, but only when you have them in big numbers. That also means you can't just split them and fight on multiple fronts at the same time unless you have enough of them or if you are ready to not use its bonus.

    • @Asterix958
      @Asterix958 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Hardcore_Remixer they can be used separately because they are still still strong unit without max +4 bonus attack. Halberdier seems is only good answer, other than that they shred infantry and cavalry.

    • @Hardcore_Remixer
      @Hardcore_Remixer 11 месяцев назад

      @@Asterix958 Halberdier, Camels and Arbalester or other archers if you can protect them well enough. Mosaca seems more like a weaker and cheaper Boyar which does extra damage when in big numbers. Cav Archers should also make for a decent answer.

    • @angquangnguyenthac2833
      @angquangnguyenthac2833 10 месяцев назад

      @@Hardcore_Remixer you usually wanted to mixed in some of them in your knight army in castle age and then transitioned or just do both. They were pretty cheap anyways.

    • @benedictjajo
      @benedictjajo 10 месяцев назад

      Well they are medium cav

  • @miguelbahamonde6321
    @miguelbahamonde6321 10 месяцев назад +8

    They seem perfectly balanced, if you keep them from making a big ball you would be absolutely fine

    • @udon6031
      @udon6031 10 месяцев назад +3

      Their gold price is really low so it's easy to make a big ball

  • @ardaarsen
    @ardaarsen 11 месяцев назад +9

    We see more and more AoM mechanics here. First ox carts from Norse. Now we see Fenrir wolf myth unit trait here although I didnt see these guys getting particularly stronger...

    • @MetalKing1417
      @MetalKing1417 10 месяцев назад

      The Monaspa does it better- the Fenrir was just too expensive, large, and late in the game to make it work.

  • @madmatt1763
    @madmatt1763 10 месяцев назад +5

    They beat Boyars at equal cost?
    Seems perfectly balanced to me 🙃

  • @MrPsilva95
    @MrPsilva95 10 месяцев назад +3

    Why are they just straight up better than Boyar on a scenario where the Boyars should shine?

  • @Ustaleone
    @Ustaleone 10 месяцев назад +1

    A little idea for a follow up video perhaps. A chart showing which unique unit beat the most other unique units in these videos that you do. That way, like these showoff videos, you can see which one does better than other unique units.

  • @travisgabe2359
    @travisgabe2359 9 месяцев назад +2

    Been playing Georgians a lot. Playing one tc with fortified churches. If you get a forward castle on a hill you just go all in Monaspa. Feels too strong. Need to lose 1 melee armor or some attack. Dont touch the cost or creation time since thats kinda their thing.

  • @deadlift9360
    @deadlift9360 10 месяцев назад +4

    Cataphracts getting clowned on by yet another Unit. Rip

  • @ordinaryrat
    @ordinaryrat 11 месяцев назад +5

    FLAMING CAMELS ARE BEST COUNTER

  • @hagarddunord8410
    @hagarddunord8410 10 месяцев назад +5

    They are probably a bit too strong. I think their armor should just be reduced by 1. Right now they have nearly as much armor as boyards.

  • @khanhsink7965
    @khanhsink7965 11 месяцев назад +7

    Wait, if the new armenian composite bowman has great matchup against chu ko nu and rattan archer, which are anti anti archer archers, that mean they are the anti anti anti archer archer?

    • @DommHavai
      @DommHavai 11 месяцев назад +2

      No, anti anti anti archer archer archer

  • @orionl7406
    @orionl7406 8 месяцев назад +1

    Glad they die to TKs. Oh and in this mid sized battle they don't keep their insane attack to counter the TKs insane armour, and the TKs eventually have more attack than them.

  • @Salnax
    @Salnax 2 месяца назад

    On one hand, these tests are the exact situation Monaspas are best at. On the other hand, they are still clearly very strong. O the third hand, Georgians are otherwise lacking in powerhouse units.

  • @aliusman4433
    @aliusman4433 10 месяцев назад +2

    The only thing i took from this video was that the viper was right about urumis

  • @lygiaquan937
    @lygiaquan937 10 месяцев назад +2

    Leitis are 🔥

  • @liubeiwarrior
    @liubeiwarrior 10 месяцев назад +3

    Irumi swordsman won 😮😮😮
    Viper was right 😂😂

  • @mdl2427
    @mdl2427 10 месяцев назад +4

    You should always give Leitis at least 2 relics to make it realistic

  • @Ustaleone
    @Ustaleone 10 месяцев назад +2

    @14:30, that was hilarious!

  • @afz902k
    @afz902k 10 месяцев назад

    I think it will need a slight cost nerf, but good that it ships like this so we can have fun with it for the first weeks or months.

  • @Campos2889
    @Campos2889 7 месяцев назад

    O Leicia de elite totalmente atualizado, e com todas as relíquias que dão bônus de ataque, então ganham de todas as cavalarias pesadas do jogo? Ou perdem só pro elefantes de guerra persas?

  • @America_FUFLO
    @America_FUFLO 6 месяцев назад

    VTF, why did only 15 Centurions participate in the battle?

  • @alexmanzer5756
    @alexmanzer5756 10 месяцев назад +2

    I think this unit will need a nerf. I hope they do it by lowering their base attack and increasing their mass effect. For example maybe instead of 14+8, maybe 12+10 for fully massed Monaspa.

  • @andreisamarin3517
    @andreisamarin3517 10 месяцев назад +1

    Urumi power ✊

  • @AngelsArmour
    @AngelsArmour 10 месяцев назад +1

    They lost to flaming camels 😂

  • @windwindy5356
    @windwindy5356 10 месяцев назад +2

    I think this unit really needs their melee armor nerfed or pierce armor nerf. That's ridiculous for how cheap they are

  • @darkdill
    @darkdill 11 месяцев назад

    With the Monaspa, I think this test should've been done with double population. I.E. still equal total resources, but roughly twice the number of units on both sides. This is due to how the Monaspa's mechanic works.

    • @lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598
      @lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598 10 месяцев назад

      They already had their proximity bonus maxed out so I doubt increasing the numbers would have changed the results.

    • @Duke_of_Lorraine
      @Duke_of_Lorraine 10 месяцев назад +1

      They'd keep it for longer after taking losses.
      But the question is how much resources would be typical to use.

  • @0Yankes0
    @0Yankes0 10 месяцев назад +2

    expect it to be nerfed fast

    • @orionl7406
      @orionl7406 8 месяцев назад

      The bug where they got bonus damage was fixed but they still haven't been nerfed.

  • @carlhvs9437
    @carlhvs9437 10 месяцев назад +1

    urumi swordsman beats them?? that is outrageous

  • @wawaweewa9159
    @wawaweewa9159 10 месяцев назад +5

    wayyy too cheap, 75food and 55gold would be better

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 5 месяцев назад

      That’s the wrong direction as it’s doesn’t really change the fact that Monaspa quickly snowball which is probably why the Devs decided to make them require 7 adjacent Monaspa units to get the benefit of one attack as well as increase their training time.
      Of course the unique unit didn’t really help them until recent buffs but still, adding a marginal amount of resources wouldn’t have change that as you would just need about 21 Units to get +4 attack compared to now needing 29 to get the full benefit.

    • @plautus-jc8be
      @plautus-jc8be Месяц назад

      yes they are too cheap,. they beat everything cost wise. THey are keshik for half the price,. I ban them from my games

  • @PazCristo
    @PazCristo 4 месяца назад

    The attack speed of boyers is too slow

  • @lastkhan
    @lastkhan 10 месяцев назад +1

    Keshik 0 dmg :(

  • @daymonklotz
    @daymonklotz 10 месяцев назад

    so persian elephants are defensive infantry?

  • @insanity1269
    @insanity1269 10 месяцев назад +3

    Conclusion: centurion is such a bad and overpriced unit.

    • @Duke_of_Lorraine
      @Duke_of_Lorraine 10 месяцев назад

      It's not meant to be used en masse, but a small number to buff legios

    • @enginuysal4500
      @enginuysal4500 10 месяцев назад +1

      wtf are you talking about boyars are also losing the melee fight against this how centurions supposed to win?

  • @JirMirza
    @JirMirza 11 месяцев назад +2

    too cheap

  • @cumanking4204
    @cumanking4204 11 месяцев назад +5

    nerf them.

    • @Hardcore_Remixer
      @Hardcore_Remixer 11 месяцев назад +2

      No, counter them. Just like the Urumi Swordsmen with the archers. Did you not notice Mosapa's high melee armor? What other hint do you need to use camels and archers with pikes in front?

    • @kalorathekau
      @kalorathekau 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, everyone thought Urumi Swordsmen would be OP, based on how well they do in videos like this which are just head-on fights in a vacuum. But in practice, Dravidians weren't OP because you can't just look at a unique unit without the context of the rest of the civ's kit. Many units perform very differently in practice compared to test scenarios like this.

    • @TheBikeOnTheMoon
      @TheBikeOnTheMoon 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Hardcore_Remixer Honestly they need a nerf to the base pierce armor by 1. The reason why Urumi suffers against archer is due to their slow speed of infantry, but Manaspa is cavalry with 2 base pierce armor, making them good at dealing with archer.

    • @matteodumond3125
      @matteodumond3125 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@TheBikeOnTheMoonthey still die to pikes, and way yarder than knights
      They still lose to cav archers
      They still lose to camels
      They still lose ton monks, in early CA

    • @johanlassen6448
      @johanlassen6448 10 месяцев назад

      @@matteodumond3125 Not good enough. Knights lose to a lot of things while also losing to all the things you just mentioned. Monaspas lost 10 out of 58 fights here. That is overpowered.

  • @shavaizkhan8165
    @shavaizkhan8165 9 месяцев назад +1

    Leitis and Monaspas are needed to be nerfed they are both ridiculous units

  • @carlhvs9437
    @carlhvs9437 10 месяцев назад

    they seem to be very OP.... cheap meat shields at the least