The one I went to wanted to have you assist every day of the week. This is a strong controlling technique because listening so much to a doctrine will make you brainwashed and accept this as your new reality. Then if you don't go as much as recommended they start to make commands from the pulpit about people not giving the first place to God and people worshiping their family or the tv. Everything is a guild trip and manipulative.
In a way they did tell me what if it’s my mom’s birthday or something like that and there was church who will I pick and stuff like that im still going to church but then again I feel like I can convince them that they’re family is important a lot
Thanks for this, your points are both insightful & clear. I’ve been a pastor in Australia for over 15 years and regularly listen to content like this as a way to protect my own leadership and church from these destructive habits.
And most of their points are fundamentally wrong that dress code was just stupid. The most famous damaging cults don't have a dress code the Manson family didn't have a dress code.
She's just making up these characteristics of a quote that don't actually have anything to do with what a cult is. Christianity is unquestionably occult whether you like it or not
I joined a Pentecostal church a few months back. The church members consistently forced me to abandon my close family and friends as according to them, Christians need to shut relationships with non Christians. There was a constant pressure on me to do what they wanted and they kept pressing me to attend church services regularly even though they knew that i was so busy with work. I left the church and blocked them all.
@@1MNUTZ that's really sad. I actually found one nice Pentecostal church with no extreme beliefs. They're nice and tolerant towards others. I Think I'll go to that church instead.
@@AmitGupta-il6lb i would be careful pentecostals all have extreme beliefs often times they love bomb you to get you in the door and join the cult. Of course I dont know of any pentecostals that dont demand separation from the world. The church I went to claimed they could heal me with laying of the hands speaking in tongues whispering and blowing wind in my ear putting oil on my head. Anytime I questioned them or why nothing was happening and I was getting worst they would say "the enemy was using me" "the enemy doesn't want you to get the holy spirit" get up on the pulpit and scream out to Jesus then go jump up and down and run in circles. The longer I stayed the more brainwashed and insane I got.
@@AmitGupta-il6lb The church I went to claimed they could heal me with laying of the hands speaking in tongues whispering and blowing wind in my ear putting oil on my head. Anytime I questioned them or why nothing was happening and I was getting worst they would say "the enemy was using me" "the enemy doesn't want you to get the holy spirit" get up on the pulpit and scream out to Jesus then go jump up and down and run in circles. The longer I stayed the more brainwashed and insane I got.
Pastors use Luke to enforce guilt for not tithing. Jesus was telling the Pharisees that since they still lived by the law, THEY SHOULD tithe! It was a part of the law. But, as He reminded them, part of the law that carried over to Christ was, honoring mother and father, which they did NOT do. Notice His comparison of these 2. Which 2 'laws' were carried forward under Grace? Some good Bible study here. Watch out for the "Nickle and Nose Counters."
If it takes you back to.the Old Testament and makes God respecter of race and persons dont stay with it. Beware overpersonification that sexualises God and makes Him.into an exalted Being you can intimate and imitate They leave out the mediation and reality of Jesus life and resurrection with all this...over concerned with what they only make of Jesus Cross
@@kaytiedidd1780 televangelist robert morris of gateway church in southlake, texas does that when it comes to tithing by using guilt and condemnation tellin they are robbing god
One time I questioned a church leader about certain things he was doing in the church. I swear this guy got so mad. He wanted to fight me. I didn't know religious leaders could get so angry.
Joined one church and weird things started happening. A guy started appearing everywhere I went - which eventually turned to threats from him. Hints were made towards me during sermons to donate large sums of money. I got kicked out of course with no information. Once I had spent half a year settling in I was being forced to dramatically change my behaviours. Never be afraid to just move on. There's the sunk time cost but a real church will accept you with open arms.
Sounds like Jehova's Witness. They follow their members, spying on them, to make sure they don't attend any other church, for any reason, & they go after you for donations, & disfellowship/ex-communicate, with no notice, either. Every 10 years, 10k of them leave that "church."
Olivia, thank you, thankyou for this video! Very clear presentation of how the cults operate. I'm 68, and I remember when the cults first came on the scene back in the 60's and 70's. Now, it seems that so many cults, especially the heretical, legalist-fundamentalist ones, have gone mainstream and are spreading like fungus across America. One of my sons has fallen in with a small fundamentalist group that is run by an ex-con in the Greenville area of South Carolina. The leader is using most of the tactics you cover in this video. My son's mother and I are very sad that he has broken off all communication with us and his siblings. He now believes us to be evil, and even barred us from attending his recent wedding by hiring an off-duty cop who told us we had to leave. Olivia, please, please do a video exclusively on the threat of the fundamentalist cults. This is very important because they have learned how to present themselves as a Biblical-based church, which THEY ARE DEFINATLY NOT!
I left an apostolic cult, I was in it for 26 years everything you said 100% what I experienced. Scary and the shun you but in the same breath make you feel guilt. Only one I did not experience was sex one.
@@BeyondBeliefChannel Hi Olivia (?) My personal advice for anyone: leave Christianity altogether. You won't have to decipher whether there is differences between Church + cults. Different if one examines the above out of interest, which is different by far. What many believers in Jesus don't realise is that Christianity is a cult, and a counterfeit to the new testament, as predicted by the writers of the letters contained in the new testament. Christianity is a cult ranging from Rome to Canterbury, to Protestantism, to even a small house group with a leader or leaders. Whenever there is a pastor or priest over the congregation, it has usurped the high priesthood of Jesus Christ, also his pastorship ( Psalm 23). To say Christianity is not a cult because it does not have characteristics of a cult is misleading, as the passage in Corinthians " God is not the author of confusion" is signifying that Christianity is indeed confusion, and that Yahweh is not involved, saying that Matthew 7: 22- 23 fits Christianity for what it is, in that Yahweh will still do miracles and mighty works through this entity, but will condemn it on judgment day. If one, who allows discernment from the Holy Spirit, while employing principles of exegesis + hermeneutics, to the new testament, you'll find the new testament has no compatibility to Christianity, nor "Messianic Judaism" Christianity is now, what Yahweh condemned in the old testament syncretism of paganism ( sun worship,etc) to the faith of Yahweh. @BeyondBeliefChannel Hi Olivia (?) My personal advice for anyone: leave Christianity altogether. You won't have to decipher whether there is differences between Church + cults. Different if one examines the above out of interest, which is different by far. What many believers in Jesus don't realise is that Christianity is a cult, and a counterfeit to the new testament, as predicted by the writers of the letters contained in the new testament. Christianity is a cult ranging from Rome to Canterbury, to Protestantism, to even a small house group with a leader or leaders. Whenever there is a pastor or priest over the congregation, it has usurped the high priesthood of Jesus Christ, also his pastorship ( Psalm 23). To say Christianity is not a cult because it does not have characteristics of a cult is misleading, as the passage in Corinthians " God is not the author of confusion" is signifying that Christianity is indeed confusion, and that Yahweh is not involved, saying that Matthew 7: 22- 23 fits Christianity for what it is, in that Yahweh will still do miracles and mighty works through this entity, but will condemn it on judgment day. If one, who allows discernment from the Holy Spirit, while employing principles of exegesis + hermeneutics, to the new testament, you'll find the new testament has no compatibility to Christianity, nor "Messianic Judaism" Christianity is now, what Yahweh condemned in the old testament syncretism of paganism ( sun worship,etc) to the faith of Yahweh.
@joenelson Liar, Liar, Liar and don’t get it out of order. Thou shall not bear false witness. What is your reward for the lies you tell? This video just highlights some examples of a real cult, which none it matches what we believe which is in The Church of Jesus Christ and we follow him as Christians.
Now you're in a Christian one Jesus was a person who lived a long time ago he was a teacher and he can't save you he asked us to not worship him but God alone but I'm glad you're on the right path and hope you continue to qestion things
my grandaughter was in 10th grade and she met a jw in school. he was a really nice guy...(NOT) and swept her off her feet. when she told me about him and he wanted to take her to church i sat her down got on the internet and educated her on how cults lure you in. she kept telling me that she liked him but she wasn't interested in religion. i knew who they were back when they rode bicycles up to your house with their white shirts, black ties and pants and tried to hand you their newsletter 'the watchtower'. they would knock on the door and they would ask...'are you a christian'? my mother had already trained us on how to answer that question... 'NO, we are Atheist'! ... . they couldn't get back on their bikes fast enough. it would scare them off, every time! my grandaughter went to their saturday service with him but she told him she liked him but she didn't want to go to any church. they had a relationship for over a year and she kept putting him off until he confronted her and told her she would have to be a member of his church if they were going to be together. that conversation 'nipped it in the bud'. she told him she was not going to be pressured into something she didn't believe in... thank gosh, that happened. to help her get through it i would take her to volunteer at the local food bank and homeless shelter, the community garden and she found her purpose by helping others. you don't have to go to a church to do good. i believe jesus wants us all to be independent thinkers and show love & charity to others. churches are supposed to GUIDE you...not brainwash or control you. now we watch documentary's together about religious cults, political dictators like hitler & mussolini, kim jung un and many other fascists dictators. that is much more fascinating & educational than giving your life over to a con artist and being owned & manipulated...by a grifter...
My in-laws are the pastor and leaders of a Pentacostal church. All these things are all true and more. I'm so grateful Jesus removed us from the cult and planted us in a bible teaching church! Jesus had good plans for me and used this cult to draw me closer to His truth in Love. Thank you Jesus for your word.
My experience of being in a cult-like Pentecostal church has left me so traumatised I can’t engage in prayer, read the bible or go to church, because it just triggers so much. I wish I could have got closer to God as you did, instead of getting further away
God has gifted you with great discernment. To Christ be the glory. Another point is that cults obessess about them being the truth or having the truth.
Also, if the pastor or a small group of close leaders are the only ones who can hear from God that can be a sign. There was a “pastor” at a church we attended who would manipulate the people into believing him (over other people in the church) by saying God told him face to face. Or that Enoch told him “face to face”.
@@dejacreacts4964 One day he will be before the Lord, face to face. I pray that he repents before that day. In the meantime, those of us who see it need to address it, to warn others. 👍🏼🙏🏻
thank you, i’m attending a church game night with a friend that i’ve kinda worried about his new change to non denomination so now i can actually know what to look for instead of panicking
You speak very well. No doubt you’re a very busy person, but I hope you find opportunities to upload more often. Im a veteran, and I hope your husband in the USMC is safe and well. I overcame cult membership in “The Potter’s House”. God bless you. Edit: I see you’re pro Kitty. Now I’m definitely subbed to your channel. Trust established!
Brave! I am listening to your video again, and feel like I have number 12 to add from my personal experience: church members don't come to your home and don't knock on your door when they don't even know who you are. I don't like when strangers ask me about Jesus in the elevator/on the street or knock on the door of my home to give me an invitation for their events/concerts.
Im so glad you said that about the military. Ive been saying the for forever. My brother is a former marine too and it just gives off cult vibes big time! Thank you. God bless
I’ve been trying to leave this cult called C-unit on and off for years. Everything you said happen to me. I’m so happy I came across this video. You become so brainwashed when you question things you know are not right they make you feel like your the enemy. Pray this time I am finally free. This is my 3d time leaving I finally got clarity. Thank you Jesus. The leader claims he is the Holy Spirit and slept with lots of girls in the cult. Anyone who leaves is “lost”, He likes to humiliate people in the group I can go on and on….There is just so many red flags. He is literally the definition of a narcissist.
Thank you for information. My family attending a apostolic pentecostal church. They believe that their pastor is the only true pastor and true prophet that God appointed in these last days. They also says, God is real in them unlike other churches and whoever stops their work will get sick (that I felt releasing curses in others who are against them). My family tries to convince me to attend their church and the first time I diagnosed cancer, my father question my faith (because I was attending a church that I know that it will help me to grow with Jesus that would not pressure me). My father said that I will not get healed if I don't regularly attend their church but I refuse to service in them and believe that God will still heal me. By God's grace, I praise Him for my weakness.
I was at a church on a Sunday, the pastor from the pulpit called out someone sitting in the church pew the pastor said he was robbing God the pastor told him to leave the church cause he didn’t bring the tithes he was literally thrown out, the pastor would say that if you don’t bring your tithes you’re cursed if you don’t bring your first salary of the year as a first fruit offering you’re cursed I ran out immediately and never returned. Thousands of dollars disappear from church funds but no one dares to question the pastor! Run from these places!!
Pastors want people to think it’s God’s church but the pastor and his wife has control over everything. Long time members has no say so in anything. My pastor and wife this way. During his preaching, he talks about him and his family. Just last Wednesday, pastor told congregation how they need to give more money because the church account isn’t to the level he wants it to be. He also said we’re going to hell if we don’t tithe. 😱 🔥🔥
I am glad you are doing this video, many years ago I belonged to a cult International Church of Christ they did many of the things you said, I did get out.
Thank you for this insightful video I attended a church which seemed very welcoming, especially for first timers However when I went on their Facebook I realised that it may be a cult from the comments left So I did more research and was shocked at the information I read. I went to a bible study and I knew that it was a red flag when one of the members asked me what my plans were that night and I said I was going to hang out with my friend and she responded that I need to stop hanging out with non Christians. The Bible study was like half an hour but literally the most uncomfortable session that I’ve ever had, they basically just gave me a verse and told me to read that aloud and immediately after finishing they were like what are your thoughts? I don’t really know how to describe what I felt, but for me it was like a teacher questioning their student - especially since I’m a new Christian. I told my friend about this and she advised me to talk to our campus ministry which I did And thankfully he knew the church and immediately confirmed that it was a cult. I just feel very fortunate that I decided to read the Facebook reviews, or otherwise I would not have known the truth It was like God sending a signal to me, I just cannot believe how close I was joining a cult This is such a long paragraph but a word of warning for university students- The members from the cult church lurk around the campus and they would approach you, asking if you’re interested in Christianity If you reply yes or don’t seem to mind, then they would try to invite you to a gathering at their place. From what I read, they start off with “love bombing”, showering you with tons of compliments inviting you to all sorts of gatherings, making you feel that you are included and have many friends However, they reveal their true colors slowly, especially when you get baptised at their church which they do very quickly
I had quite a similar experience myself!! As a newcomer, they showered me with love bombing, gifts and kindness. Unfortunately for them I was raised already in church so know a bit about protocols and how they operate.. I went in with a open mind and was overwhelmed quite suddenly. I went to look up this place online through Facebook and found a group of ex members who escaped from this group. I took it with a grain of salt at first until I saw and heard for myself that they were indeed a cult. I walked away and was harrassed for awhile by them, saying me and my children are influenced by the devil and I will go to hell. I'm just happy to know that it isn't true at all, they just couldn't brainwash me nor did they take on account that I was already aware of their agenda nor that I had a religious upbringing. They usually target ones who were not brought up with faith and are vulnerable. I was at a vulnerable point in my life when they came in and took advantage of that but my faith never wavered and God will was for me to leave. I'm thankful that I did 100 percent.
@@LilyTahiti888 I’m so sorry that you had to go through that, and also thankful that God gave you the strength and confidence to not believe what they said I pray that you’ll continue to grow on your Christian path 🙏
@@matta.5363 truly grateful that He stopped me from being involved with the cult I was already with a church, but I stopped attending because of how busy I was- which I later realised that were excuses. I went through something that was really stressful but I believe that God put it there for a reason, for me to have faith that He will take care of me no matter how rough things can get. Cause after that I decided to spend more time with the Lord and now I’ve been going to church, reading the Bible along with other fellowships with Christians and my heart has never felt that full with joy 💛 Thank you for your kind words, I will continue to walk with the Lord, and I also pray that the Lord will continue to bring you strength and comfort God bless you!
I was told that the Apostolic doctrine is the only true one and other doctrines are bad.. and when I got abused by a deacon at the church, it was swept under the rug and I was told to just stay away from him.. I'm now led to believe that it is not a church, it is a cult.
I'm Apostolic and I'm sorry you had to go through this abuse, perhaps call law enforcement and report it.. and if they the leadership swept it under the rug they will not get away with it,, But don't throw the Bible truth away acts 2:38 Hope you find another place of worship 🙏
Thank you very much for this very insightful video. While I am not saying the church I currently attend is a cult I do see major changes going on but I'm uncomfortable with. Also some of the guest speakers and studies we've done are questionable. When I bring this information forward I am just dismissed. They always seem to find a way to justify it. Hey have done a study with Andy Stanley which I opposed and they've just had revival with YWAM neither of which I participated in however I was made to feel like I should have participated and gotten what I could have out of it whether it was legit or not. Any feedback from anyone would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
jeff...you already know! just by questioning those changes. if you feel in your gut that something is off, do some research about cults & different religions. i wish someone would start some group meetings that gather people together and share their particular experience with others. educating yourself will help tremendously. have you ever heard of the UNITARIAN Universalist church. its actually NOT fundamental. it's more like an educational experience about other religions. look it up. they are mainstream and not pushy...
I’ve been trying to leave this cult called C-unit on and off for years. Everything you said happen to me. I’m so happy I came across this video. You become so brainwashed when you question things you know are not right they make you feel like your the enemy. Pray this time I am finally free. This is my 3d time leaving I finally got clarity. Thank you Jesus.
Thank you for your intelligent observations. You are fortunate to have realized them so early in your life. From my own life experience, your words have resonance with me. I grew up in a very conservative church, and I would add two signs in addition. The first is an obsession with bigotry. That is demeaning other people and even their religion in order to validate our own beliefs. Christians recognize that no one is perfect, not even ourselves. We become willing to extend to others the grace that we have received, and find beauty in the people that God has created, even when they are different. The second is an obsession with our own emotions. That is, a focus only on the heart as the evidence of our salvation. It is possible to confuse our own emotions, especially guilt, with the Holy Spirit. Emotional experience can make us believe things that are not true. Our emotions can mislead, unless they are connected to our minds as well. The Bible calls us to love God with all of our heart, with all of our mind and with all of our soul, and our neighbor as ourselves. The Gospel is incomplete when any one of those things is missing in our lives. The Bible often talks about the evil that comes only from the heart. Whenever a religion leaves out the importance of our minds to God, then we should search for the exit
A Church that goes overtly cultic is not as dangerous (for we know where it stands) as a Church that still claims to be Biblical but which tolerates subtle cultic tendencies with weird reinterpretations of the Scriptures. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for this exposition, Christ Walk.
Been in for 34 years and my husband and i and my children are still in trying to get out but it's so hard I keep thinking of them saying we will go to hell. I'm just scared 😱
Satan works through the lies they tell you. You will NOT go to Hell if you leave. You can have a relationship with the Lord Jesus still and read the Bible for yourself and ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding. Trust Jesus to make a way and prepare to leave. May God open the door and may you be set free in the name of Jesus!
This happen to me if I left I was going to hell. I just got to the point where I’d rather be happy now and deal with hell later. I lost funds of 26 years completely shut the door on me. I left in 2021 and I will never go back to it again and let alone any church I’m pretty much done. Pls just leave.
Go to Jesus and the word for your guidance, that's what I did when I left. If they are telling you membership in their fellowship is the only way to be saved they lie. Faith in Jesus Christ saves not what church you go to.please get out. When I left I did not agree to go talk to them and cut all ties. I sent letters saying goodbye after I left and called and told the pastor I was done. Those that know God and are Spirit led are His, not led by man.
Very helpful, i was in Shinchonji Cult for 6 months back in 2016, most of your saying are just perfect match with that cult. I would have leave a lot sonner if I saw your video then.
My daughter married into a cult. No one believes us, she cut us off completely. She was smart and outgoing now she looks dead inside, she does not look like herself. Sometimes she looks drugged. NO ONE would help us. It is a long story but we missed the red flags. I cry everyday.
You need to forgive them and pray for them,we are all sinners saved by grace God will-lead you to where u need to be to receive healing and the truth❤Pray to him he loves you and wants to restore you ,what the enemy meant for evil God can turn into good that one day you will have a testimony to be able to minister-to others ❤
I attended a Baptist church as an adolescent and I was told that the Bible was the only book I needed for answers to my questions about religion. The pastor was God ordained and their sermons were inspired by the Holy Spirit which is God. If I wanted to read something else besides the Bible I was to pick a book from the church library. I shouldn’t attend a church from another denomination with friends that might invite me, instead I should invite my friends to my church and lead them to Christ. If I questioned the Bible or a sermon I would be warned,”Beware questioning the word of God”. God will punish doubters and nonbelievers for all eternity. And we were shown films about what hell will be like if we don’t live a godly life. This films were about fires, screaming and suffering from sinners in that place god has prepared. Yep, nightmares for me till I quit attending their movie nights.
Church should be a place where you go and be sociable to others. I look at is as a free place to go lean the art of conversation. I stay away from the gossip, or the extra programs they have like bible study. I also volunteer at a bike/ski shop because I love the sport and meet people that way aswell. I work self employed so meeting people is a challenge so I have to push myself to get out there. Churches prey on the venerable and have you confess your sins so you can be addicted to the validation. BE CAREFUL. Use church very lightly, and know that what they believe is there business. I take it very tonge and cheek.
I went to one not evening thinking “cult” and the first time was great and the next time starting getting weird. I started noticing how mean the pastor was. All the men dressed the same, they shamed Catholics, they were wearing evil eye bracelets and they are extremely clingy. It’s disgusting
Can't believe this video is actually useful for a lot of people, that it actually had to be a made... It begs the question is what's happening to these people that they can't differentiate these tell tell signs for themselves? Why do they give authority to pastor Tom, Dick and Harry? Very intriguing how we people can loose or intellect and trust the nature of Man.
Since they have like the verses and seem to be sticking to the Bible, for a new Christian that have never read it before they wouldn’t know that it was just taken out of context. That was at least what happened to me They can disguise themselves very well, even better than a lot of you can think
Praise GOD for you and thank you for the reminders. GOD bless you more and family!😊🌷❤️☝️ + They are Leaders (modern day Pharisees)who Misrepresenting our LORD Jesus Christ to the world by their teaching, conduct and lives. They served and used the name of our LORD in ther ministry but they’re cursed and unrecognized in the day of Judgment by the LORD. ... “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:21-23 KJV “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.” Acts 20:28 KJV
Great video! Interesting aspect about the dress code. How may I contact you? I want to speak to you concerning a project about cultural sensitivity in the church.
The UK is rapidly becoming more like the states in its culture In many ways.Not good for our Christian faith which should bo displaying the culture of the kingdom of God.We need to get back to acts of the apostles.
This girl is wrong in many ways she used no biblical doctrine to support her views of what she was saying. And the whole hair thing she said it's a biblical teaching that man should have moderate length hair and women should have longer hair because it's there covering and glory.
What would have been best is to also provide scriptures to back up things. It’s always more effective when the scripture itself speaks and cuts the heart of people.
I have never seen so many responses so ignorant about what a true church is. It is disappointing there is such biblical illiteracy and lack of knowledge of the Christian faith. The church is not about the pastor, nor is about the people; it is about the good news of Christ. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn’t even have to be a building. Worship is about God. Everything we do as the church is about God. Leave the opinions outside. As long as we concentrate on God in Christ not the pastor, not the people but God, the church cannot become a cult. Remember, Christ is the center and head of the Church!
I’m pretty sure I attend a cult, one example was I went to a Bible study and I told one of the leader that the way the pastor was using tongues was not doctrinal and was in fact blasphemous because they believe anyone can speak in tongues you just have to get in the spirit and start chanting random fake words and when I told them this they were so furious and I pointed back to scripture to back my claim. I still attend this “church because I want to call them out and expose their lies
After serving in the church almost 30 years in an Apostolic church we got treated like dirt when we moved to a different church. Never got the chance to say goodbye or be ‘honorably dismissed’. Only the true friends stayed in touch. All the fake Christians don’t show any love. 14:35
I was attending a Korean church. We wore special slippers, taught mistrust, and were constantly pressuring me to speak in their unique type of tongues. The pastor also shamed me several times during services.
I've been to several churches. The one my father grew up in and made me grow up is is definitely culty. They don't want you to wear makeup, jewelry, pants, or nail polish. Dresses or skirts must be worn passed the knees, no cutting your hair. Hair must be worn long and up. No music or TV or electronics. No tattoos or piercings. I have broken every rule. The one I went to with my mother was culty because they gossip and discuss everything you do to everyone. You are practically shunned once you do something they don't like. I was told I was wrong for being friends with gay people and I'd go to hell for being their friend as well as telling them to live their truth. I have seen and heard them talk politics in the church and saying something as disgusting as "Obama is the black devil!" "Trump was sent from God to be our savior!" As well as other things. I've recently come to the conclusion that religion itself is a cult. Most religions say the man is in charge and the woman must do what he says and cook and clean and take care of the children. Women are always told what to do,how to dress, how to act, ect ect. Religions often say other religions aren't valid. Most people are prejudice to people of color, lgbtqia people, and anything that isn't their norms. Yep, religion is a cult.
Sounds like you were explaining the Apostolic church I grew up in. I just finished this video and I’m 11 for 11 lol. I left 12 years ago when I was 18 and it still affects my daily life. I hope this video helps someone! It definitely confirmed what I knew, it’s good to hear it come from someone else though!
It is the same like the one I was in. We were not allowed to visit other churches, not allowed to listen to other pastors, not allowed to discuss about football clubs even asking if you don't understand, they said you mustn't want knowledge of some unusual things.
Sarah, please remember that there are many Bible based churches that don't do the thing you were subjected to. Just because a group pretends to be Christian, doesn't mean they are following the Bible. Scripture tells us that Satan disguises himself as an "angel of light" ( 2 Corinthians 11:14).
i agree with 'every thing' you are saying. i hope your story reaches many people. jesus isn't a bigot or a racist. true christians don't hate people...or judge them...
The difference between a cult, & a religion, is whether they stalk you, if you want to leave, like Scientologists do. Anything that promotes socialism/communism, is a cult, & is of the devil, because it destroys your constitutional freedom, to make your own choices, including whether to, or how you worship. Trump was sent to save our constitution, so the gospel can be freely taught, until Christ returns, & to make Jerusalem the capitol of Israel.
The dress code thing is true. I was sitting in my car before service one morning (UPC) watching people turn up. They all had suits and ties and it dawned on me how it looked like a cult from the outside. What is this, an accountant convention? I was in the band for years and brought up the point of why we have to wear a tie. There's no real answer for a question like that. If you look up the history of where ties come from its even more stupid.
@@Fashn4LaDieSif that were the case for the way people dress in church, wouldn’t they dress like that all the time since we don’t know when Jesus will return?
Left one after a week I had different opinion, only the leaders opinion was correct Most of what he taught was correct but he was overly controlling and if anyone tried to have an opinion they were shut down by him Then because I questioned some of his stuff he got another member to bombard me with messages, the gaslighting was awful, I was goaded beyond belief but when I retorted back he played the victim Luckily within only few meetings I left and blocked them I screenshot all the conversations so have my evidence
I came from a G12 church I've experienced some of the mentioned and I left now I found a new church where I could call family but I've known they will adopt G12 too it's really bothering me.
you forgot #12 - it is called a religion Cult definitions 1) a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. 2) a group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. all religions are Cults. alternate definition of Cult Cult is a term, in most contexts pejorative, for a relatively small group which is typically led by a charismatic and self-appointed leader, who tightly controls its members, requiring unwavering devotion to a set of beliefs and practices which are considered deviant. still all religions are Cults. most have grown over the after there original leader died. "a relatively small group" is only there so the worlds major religions have a special pleading excuse to get out, and they all started as a relatively small group.
All religions are not cults, though you could argue many originated as cults. I'm writing my thesis about cult classification if you are interested, way too much for me to go into detail here.
the early 70s I was exposed to a occultism environment. A church in my hometown practiced a kind of "Duo Worship ". God in the day...Satan in the night. We used to run through the fields with them. At night they literally stopped believing in being Christian and worshipped Satan. They were known to have practiced a particular ritual which was called the one hundred year ritual. It took place in 1871 in the area and then repeated in 1971 at Menantico Ponds. Much of what they believed involved Judeo-Christian concepts. The ritual itself derived from the writings of medieval theologians where demons had hierarchies and legions. After a body submerged at Menantico Ponds they were interrogated by police because they had information or an idea that this group were cultivating or training youths to perform this ritual. The Menantico cult wore robes and masks ...and pounded on drums. This frightened people camping at Menantico. No one was generally aware if they were the same people in the church...HOWEVER...some people said they were. In the daytime they acted as prominent people in the community. They were thought to be Christians. Do you ya see how easy it is to fool people?
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12. They make unreasonable demands on your time. 13. Isolate you from your family.
They tried that and I said F-U!!! (By action withholding choice words)
The one I went to wanted to have you assist every day of the week. This is a strong controlling technique because listening so much to a doctrine will make you brainwashed and accept this as your new reality. Then if you don't go as much as recommended they start to make commands from the pulpit about people not giving the first place to God and people worshiping their family or the tv. Everything is a guild trip and manipulative.
I needed this I'm at a women's refuge in Florida and the time demands are insain
In a way they did tell me what if it’s my mom’s birthday or something like that and there was church who will I pick and stuff like that im still going to church but then again I feel like I can convince them that they’re family is important a lot
Waoo learning alot from you little little girl
Thanks for this, your points are both insightful & clear. I’ve been a pastor in Australia for over 15 years and regularly listen to content like this as a way to protect my own leadership and church from these destructive habits.
And most of their points are fundamentally wrong that dress code was just stupid. The most famous damaging cults don't have a dress code the Manson family didn't have a dress code.
She's just making up these characteristics of a quote that don't actually have anything to do with what a cult is. Christianity is unquestionably occult whether you like it or not
If you look up images of most cults, they dress very similarly to the point of having a dress code. The manson family included.
Man as a Pastor you can't pray .
@@BeyondBeliefChannel actually no that's not generally true about colts and no the Manson family didn't have a uniform or anything
I joined a Pentecostal church a few months back. The church members consistently forced me to abandon my close family and friends as according to them, Christians need to shut relationships with non Christians.
There was a constant pressure on me to do what they wanted and they kept pressing me to attend church services regularly even though they knew that i was so busy with work.
I left the church and blocked them all.
They did that to me too
@@1MNUTZ that's really sad. I actually found one nice Pentecostal church with no extreme beliefs. They're nice and tolerant towards others. I Think I'll go to that church instead.
@@AmitGupta-il6lb i would be careful pentecostals all have extreme beliefs often times they love bomb you to get you in the door and join the cult. Of course I dont know of any pentecostals that dont demand separation from the world.
The church I went to claimed they could heal me with laying of the hands speaking in tongues whispering and blowing wind in my ear putting oil on my head. Anytime I questioned them or why nothing was happening and I was getting worst they would say "the enemy was using me" "the enemy doesn't want you to get the holy spirit" get up on the pulpit and scream out to Jesus then go jump up and down and run in circles. The longer I stayed the more brainwashed and insane I got.
@@AmitGupta-il6lb The church I went to claimed they could heal me with laying of the hands speaking in tongues whispering and blowing wind in my ear putting oil on my head. Anytime I questioned them or why nothing was happening and I was getting worst they would say "the enemy was using me" "the enemy doesn't want you to get the holy spirit" get up on the pulpit and scream out to Jesus then go jump up and down and run in circles. The longer I stayed the more brainwashed and insane I got.
Christian’s shunning away from non Christians is so blatantly unbiblical. Was it not Jesus who dined with tax collectors and prostitutes lol
The false doctrine of tithing is a big one, many are now waking up to this deception. Thanks for the video, God Bless 💕
Some churches even own houses and schools that waves major red flags to me
Pastors use Luke to enforce guilt for not tithing. Jesus was telling the Pharisees that since they still lived by the law, THEY SHOULD tithe! It was a part of the law. But, as He reminded them, part of the law that carried over to Christ was, honoring mother and father, which they did NOT do. Notice His comparison of these 2. Which 2 'laws' were carried forward under Grace? Some good Bible study here. Watch out for the "Nickle and Nose Counters."
I just left a church that was full of contempt prior to investigation on many outside issues that are in professional hands.
If it takes you back to.the Old Testament and makes God respecter of race and persons dont stay with it.
Beware overpersonification that sexualises God and makes Him.into an exalted Being you can intimate and imitate They leave out the mediation and reality of Jesus life and resurrection with all this...over concerned with what they only make of Jesus Cross
@@kaytiedidd1780 televangelist robert morris of gateway church in southlake, texas does that when it comes to tithing by using guilt and condemnation tellin they are robbing god
One time I questioned a church leader about certain things he was doing in the church. I swear this guy got so mad. He wanted to fight me. I didn't know religious leaders could get so angry.
that's awful. It is concerning how many church leaders that use religion to mask their violence
They aren't religious just using religion for their benefit
@@Venus.Y right.
That's calLed intimidation
A method to punish you for questioning his authority
And it works
SMH
Joined one church and weird things started happening. A guy started appearing everywhere I went - which eventually turned to threats from him. Hints were made towards me during sermons to donate large sums of money. I got kicked out of course with no information. Once I had spent half a year settling in I was being forced to dramatically change my behaviours. Never be afraid to just move on. There's the sunk time cost but a real church will accept you with open arms.
which tells me you are an independent thinker. good for you!!
💯 someone who understands what a real church looks like
Sounds like Jehova's Witness. They follow their members, spying on them, to make sure they don't attend any other church, for any reason, & they go after you for donations, & disfellowship/ex-communicate, with no notice, either. Every 10 years, 10k of them leave that "church."
Was it a Pentecostal church by chance
Olivia, thank you, thankyou for this video! Very clear presentation of how the cults operate. I'm 68, and I remember when the cults first came on the scene back in the 60's and 70's. Now, it seems that so many cults, especially the heretical, legalist-fundamentalist ones, have gone mainstream and are spreading like fungus across America. One of my sons has fallen in with a small fundamentalist group that is run by an ex-con in the Greenville area of South Carolina. The leader is using most of the tactics you cover in this video. My son's mother and I are very sad that he has broken off all communication with us and his siblings. He now believes us to be evil, and even barred us from attending his recent wedding by hiring an off-duty cop who told us we had to leave. Olivia, please, please do a video exclusively on the threat of the fundamentalist cults. This is very important because they have learned how to present themselves as a Biblical-based church, which THEY ARE DEFINATLY NOT!
Greenville Ohio...church of god restoration..
Apostate cult straight from he'll..
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I left an apostolic cult, I was in it for 26 years everything you said 100% what I experienced. Scary and the shun you but in the same breath make you feel guilt. Only one I did not experience was sex one.
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You are spot on with tell tail signs of cults. Thank u for educating us on cults and cult behaviors.
it's my pleasure! :)
God Bless you, thanks
@@BeyondBeliefChannel
Hi Olivia (?)
My personal advice for anyone: leave Christianity altogether. You won't have to decipher whether there is differences between Church + cults. Different if one examines the above out of interest, which is different by far.
What many believers in Jesus don't realise is that Christianity is a cult, and a counterfeit to the new testament, as predicted by the writers of the letters contained in the new testament.
Christianity is a cult ranging from Rome to Canterbury, to Protestantism, to even a small house group with a leader or leaders.
Whenever there is a pastor or priest over the congregation, it has usurped the high priesthood of Jesus Christ, also his pastorship ( Psalm 23). To say Christianity is not a cult because it does not have characteristics of a cult is misleading, as the passage in Corinthians " God is not the author of confusion" is signifying that Christianity is indeed confusion, and that Yahweh is not involved, saying that Matthew 7: 22- 23 fits Christianity for what it is, in that Yahweh will still do miracles and mighty works through this entity, but will condemn it on judgment day.
If one, who allows discernment from the Holy Spirit, while employing principles of exegesis + hermeneutics, to the new testament, you'll find the new testament has no compatibility to Christianity, nor "Messianic Judaism"
Christianity is now, what Yahweh condemned in the old testament syncretism of paganism ( sun worship,etc) to the faith of Yahweh. @BeyondBeliefChannel
Hi Olivia (?)
My personal advice for anyone: leave Christianity altogether. You won't have to decipher whether there is differences between Church + cults. Different if one examines the above out of interest, which is different by far.
What many believers in Jesus don't realise is that Christianity is a cult, and a counterfeit to the new testament, as predicted by the writers of the letters contained in the new testament.
Christianity is a cult ranging from Rome to Canterbury, to Protestantism, to even a small house group with a leader or leaders.
Whenever there is a pastor or priest over the congregation, it has usurped the high priesthood of Jesus Christ, also his pastorship ( Psalm 23). To say Christianity is not a cult because it does not have characteristics of a cult is misleading, as the passage in Corinthians " God is not the author of confusion" is signifying that Christianity is indeed confusion, and that Yahweh is not involved, saying that Matthew 7: 22- 23 fits Christianity for what it is, in that Yahweh will still do miracles and mighty works through this entity, but will condemn it on judgment day.
If one, who allows discernment from the Holy Spirit, while employing principles of exegesis + hermeneutics, to the new testament, you'll find the new testament has no compatibility to Christianity, nor "Messianic Judaism"
Christianity is now, what Yahweh condemned in the old testament syncretism of paganism ( sun worship,etc) to the faith of Yahweh.
@@BeyondBeliefChannel Hi,
Sorry, I must of duplicated my message.
Apologise.
I was raised in the Mormon cult. Jesus saved me🙏❤️
That's like not believing in Superman but believing in Spiderman
Do you have a particular denomination
Thank God! God bless you!
@joenelson Liar, Liar, Liar and don’t get it out of order. Thou shall not bear false witness. What is your reward for the lies you tell? This video just highlights some examples of a real cult, which none it matches what we believe which is in The Church of Jesus Christ and we follow him as Christians.
Now you're in a Christian one Jesus was a person who lived a long time ago he was a teacher and he can't save you he asked us to not worship him but God alone but I'm glad you're on the right path and hope you continue to qestion things
I left the church of Jeovah Witness 18 years old the year 2023 January 7 officially an Exjw and I'm relief I did but sometimes it's hard 😊🥺💕🙏🏽
my grandaughter was in 10th grade and she met a jw in school. he was a really nice guy...(NOT) and swept her off her feet. when she told me about him and he wanted to take her to church i sat her down got on the internet and educated her on how cults lure you in. she kept telling me that she liked him but she wasn't interested in religion. i knew who they were back when they rode bicycles up to your house with their white shirts, black ties and pants and tried to hand you their newsletter 'the watchtower'. they would knock on the door and they would ask...'are you a christian'? my mother had already trained us on how to answer that question... 'NO, we are Atheist'! ... . they couldn't get back on their bikes fast enough. it would scare them off, every time! my grandaughter went to their saturday service with him but she told him she liked him but she didn't want to go to any church. they had a relationship for over a year and she kept putting him off until he confronted her and told her she would have to be a member of his church if they were going to be together. that conversation 'nipped it in the bud'. she told him she was not going to be pressured into something she didn't believe in... thank gosh, that happened. to help her get through it i would take her to volunteer at the local food bank and homeless shelter, the community garden and she found her purpose by helping others. you don't have to go to a church to do good. i believe jesus wants us all to be independent thinkers and show love & charity to others. churches are supposed to GUIDE you...not brainwash or control you. now we watch documentary's together about religious cults, political dictators like hitler & mussolini, kim jung un and many other fascists dictators. that is much more fascinating & educational than giving your life over to a con artist and being owned & manipulated...by a grifter...
My in-laws are the pastor and leaders of a Pentacostal church. All these things are all true and more. I'm so grateful Jesus removed us from the cult and planted us in a bible teaching church! Jesus had good plans for me and used this cult to draw me closer to His truth in Love. Thank you Jesus for your word.
My experience of being in a cult-like Pentecostal church has left me so traumatised I can’t engage in prayer, read the bible or go to church, because it just triggers so much. I wish I could have got closer to God as you did, instead of getting further away
You're very easy to listen to. You explain things well. Thank you🥰
God has gifted you with great discernment. To Christ be the glory.
Another point is that cults obessess about them being the truth or having the truth.
Also, if the pastor or a small group of close leaders are the only ones who can hear from God that can be a sign. There was a “pastor” at a church we attended who would manipulate the people into believing him (over other people in the church) by saying God told him face to face. Or that Enoch told him “face to face”.
that's awful :( we have to be vigilant for people like this
A self proclaimed apostle name David E Taylor tells his followers he’s seen Jesus face to face
@@dejacreacts4964 One day he will be before the Lord, face to face. I pray that he repents before that day. In the meantime, those of us who see it need to address it, to warn others. 👍🏼🙏🏻
Oh new creation does that
U FAKE GOD@@jewel643
thank you, i’m attending a church game night with a friend that i’ve kinda worried about his new change to non denomination so now i can actually know what to look for instead of panicking
happy to help
You speak very well. No doubt you’re a very busy person, but I hope you find opportunities to upload more often. Im a veteran, and I hope your husband in the USMC is safe and well. I overcame cult membership in “The Potter’s House”. God bless you.
Edit: I see you’re pro Kitty. Now I’m definitely subbed to your channel. Trust established!
thank you! I am working on a video now and plan to start uploading again! and thank you for your service.
Thank you for sharing this video message. This was a shared video by another for me to watch. Enjoy your day and weekend.
that's really cool that people are sharing my videos with each other I'm glad they have been useful
My heart breaks for the people being deceived. But know the Lord can still help them.
Brave! I am listening to your video again, and feel like I have number 12 to add from my personal experience: church members don't come to your home and don't knock on your door when they don't even know who you are. I don't like when strangers ask me about Jesus in the elevator/on the street or knock on the door of my home to give me an invitation for their events/concerts.
Im so glad you said that about the military. Ive been saying the for forever. My brother is a former marine too and it just gives off cult vibes big time! Thank you. God bless
Except the military pays you and you are free to walk away hassle free once your contract is up.
@@jackcarraway4707 true but at what cost? the brainwashing stays
Olivia, This is a really great presentation by a wise layperson. My niece is being sucked into a personality cult right now. So Thanks for posting!
I’ve been trying to leave this cult called C-unit on and off for years. Everything you said happen to me. I’m so happy I came across this video. You become so brainwashed when you question things you know are not right they make you feel like your the enemy. Pray this time I am finally free. This is my 3d time leaving I finally got clarity. Thank you Jesus. The leader claims he is the Holy Spirit and slept with lots of girls in the cult. Anyone who leaves is “lost”, He likes to humiliate people in the group I can go on and on….There is just so many red flags. He is literally the definition of a narcissist.
Manipulation and control is a major sign!!!
Thank you for information. My family attending a apostolic pentecostal church. They believe that their pastor is the only true pastor and true prophet that God appointed in these last days. They also says, God is real in them unlike other churches and whoever stops their work will get sick (that I felt releasing curses in others who are against them). My family tries to convince me to attend their church and the first time I diagnosed cancer, my father question my faith (because I was attending a church that I know that it will help me to grow with Jesus that would not pressure me). My father said that I will not get healed if I don't regularly attend their church but I refuse to service in them and believe that God will still heal me. By God's grace, I praise Him for my weakness.
I'm actually very happy because my church is genuine
can you give me some details? Do they make you give money? or how are they?
Every single one of these happened recently to me. It broke my family’s heart
I was at a church on a Sunday, the pastor from the pulpit called out someone sitting in the church pew the pastor said he was robbing God the pastor told him to leave the church cause he didn’t bring the tithes he was literally thrown out, the pastor would say that if you don’t bring your tithes you’re cursed if you don’t bring your first salary of the year as a first fruit offering you’re cursed I ran out immediately and never returned. Thousands of dollars disappear from church funds but no one dares to question the pastor! Run from these places!!
Geeeze!
Pastors want people to think it’s God’s church but the pastor and his wife has control over everything. Long time members has no say so in anything. My pastor and wife this way. During his preaching, he talks about him and his family. Just last Wednesday, pastor told congregation how they need to give more money because the church account isn’t to the level he wants it to be. He also said we’re going to hell if we don’t tithe. 😱 🔥🔥
dg...RUN, don't walk, away! sounds like it's like a PTL type church...
I am glad you are doing this video, many years ago I belonged to a cult International Church of Christ they did many of the things you said, I did get out.
Im not familiar with this group I'll have to look them up. Glad you got out
Me too I grew up in ICOC I left about 4 years ago
Lol, I'm leaving Christ Embassy after 4 weeks or so.
Is ICC the international version of the Mormon church?
@@asthma23dudet05 it's not mormon
Some churches may hope for the best for people who leave but they still talk about them
DON'T JUST LEAVE, RUNNNN!
This was brilliantly said, thank you for sharing your understandings.
Good info, and I love the kitty cat in the background.
Thank you for this insightful video
I attended a church which seemed very welcoming, especially for first timers
However when I went on their Facebook I realised that it may be a cult from the comments left
So I did more research and was shocked at the information I read.
I went to a bible study and I knew that it was a red flag when one of the members asked me what my plans were that night and I said I was going to hang out with my friend and she responded that I need to stop hanging out with non Christians.
The Bible study was like half an hour but literally the most uncomfortable session that I’ve ever had,
they basically just gave me a verse and told me to read that aloud and immediately after finishing they were like what are your thoughts?
I don’t really know how to describe what I felt, but for me it was like a teacher questioning their student - especially since I’m a new Christian.
I told my friend about this and she advised me to talk to our campus ministry which I did
And thankfully he knew the church and immediately confirmed that it was a cult.
I just feel very fortunate that I decided to read the Facebook reviews, or otherwise I would not have known the truth
It was like God sending a signal to me, I just cannot believe how close I was joining a cult
This is such a long paragraph but a word of warning for university students-
The members from the cult church lurk around the campus and they would approach you, asking if you’re interested in Christianity
If you reply yes or don’t seem to mind, then they would try to invite you to a gathering at their place.
From what I read, they start off with “love bombing”, showering you with tons of compliments inviting you to all sorts of gatherings, making you feel that you are included and have many friends
However, they reveal their true colors slowly, especially when you get baptised at their church which they do very quickly
I had quite a similar experience myself!! As a newcomer, they showered me with love bombing, gifts and kindness. Unfortunately for them I was raised already in church so know a bit about protocols and how they operate.. I went in with a open mind and was overwhelmed quite suddenly. I went to look up this place online through Facebook and found a group of ex members who escaped from this group. I took it with a grain of salt at first until I saw and heard for myself that they were indeed a cult. I walked away and was harrassed for awhile by them, saying me and my children are influenced by the devil and I will go to hell. I'm just happy to know that it isn't true at all, they just couldn't brainwash me nor did they take on account that I was already aware of their agenda nor that I had a religious upbringing. They usually target ones who were not brought up with faith and are vulnerable. I was at a vulnerable point in my life when they came in and took advantage of that but my faith never wavered and God will was for me to leave. I'm thankful that I did 100 percent.
So thankful that our Heavenly Father protected you! Stay close to the Lord. He will guide you to a church that is truly following Scripture.
@@LilyTahiti888 I’m so sorry that you had to go through that, and also thankful that God gave you the strength and confidence to not believe what they said
I pray that you’ll continue to grow on your Christian path 🙏
@@matta.5363 truly grateful that He stopped me from being involved with the cult
I was already with a church, but I stopped attending because of how busy I was- which I later realised that were excuses. I went through something that was really stressful but I believe that God put it there for a reason, for me to have faith that He will take care of me no matter how rough things can get. Cause after that I decided to spend more time with the Lord and now I’ve been going to church, reading the Bible along with other fellowships with Christians and my heart has never felt that full with joy 💛
Thank you for your kind words, I will continue to walk with the Lord, and I also pray that the Lord will continue to bring you strength and comfort God bless you!
Sounds like international church of Christ?
As a cradle Catholic in the Philippines most of the Parish Priests I know are GOOD and Kindhearted.
that's good to hear...and rare...lol
Catholics aren't really Christian
@@donnadayle3762There are many great Priests!
The Jehovah witness religion definitely fits most if not all aspects of a cult.
The Watchtower Cult.
The prophetic church I attended once had almost all these signs
I was told that the Apostolic doctrine is the only true one and other doctrines are bad.. and when I got abused by a deacon at the church, it was swept under the rug and I was told to just stay away from him.. I'm now led to believe that it is not a church, it is a cult.
That's awful that happened to you :( I'm so sorry
it is definitely a cult
I'm Apostolic and I'm sorry you had to go through this abuse, perhaps call law enforcement and report it.. and if they the leadership swept it under the rug they will not get away with it,, But don't throw the Bible truth away acts 2:38
Hope you find another place of worship 🙏
Thank you for bringing clearity to what i went through ❤
This was amazing. This will help many. God bless you
Thank you very much for this very insightful video. While I am not saying the church I currently attend is a cult I do see major changes going on but I'm uncomfortable with. Also some of the guest speakers and studies we've done are questionable. When I bring this information forward I am just dismissed. They always seem to find a way to justify it. Hey have done a study with Andy Stanley which I opposed and they've just had revival with YWAM neither of which I participated in however I was made to feel like I should have participated and gotten what I could have out of it whether it was legit or not. Any feedback from anyone would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
jeff...you already know! just by questioning those changes. if you feel in your gut that something is off, do some research about cults & different religions. i wish someone would start some group meetings that gather people together and share their particular experience with others. educating yourself will help tremendously. have you ever heard of the UNITARIAN Universalist church. its actually NOT fundamental. it's more like an educational experience about other religions. look it up. they are mainstream and not pushy...
I was in all of those signs I got oust because I got saved and full of the Holy Spirit and God's grace and they seen it
glad you were able to get out
Let me guess they said it wasn't the Holy Spirit? To try use your faith against you lmao.
I’ve been trying to leave this cult called C-unit on and off for years. Everything you said happen to me. I’m so happy I came across this video. You become so brainwashed when you question things you know are not right they make you feel like your the enemy. Pray this time I am finally free. This is my 3d time leaving I finally got clarity. Thank you Jesus.
Thank you for your intelligent observations. You are fortunate to have realized them so early in your life. From my own life experience, your words have resonance with me. I grew up in a very conservative church, and I would add two signs in addition. The first is an obsession with bigotry. That is demeaning other people and even their religion in order to validate our own beliefs. Christians recognize that no one is perfect, not even ourselves. We become willing to extend to others the grace that we have received, and find beauty in the people that God has created, even when they are different. The second is an obsession with our own emotions. That is, a focus only on the heart as the evidence of our salvation. It is possible to confuse our own emotions, especially guilt, with the Holy Spirit. Emotional experience can make us believe things that are not true. Our emotions can mislead, unless they are connected to our minds as well. The Bible calls us to love God with all of our heart, with all of our mind and with all of our soul, and our neighbor as ourselves. The Gospel is incomplete when any one of those things is missing in our lives. The Bible often talks about the evil that comes only from the heart. Whenever a religion leaves out the importance of our minds to God, then we should search for the exit
A Church that goes overtly cultic is not as dangerous (for we know where it stands)
as a Church that still claims to be Biblical but which tolerates subtle cultic tendencies
with weird reinterpretations of the Scriptures.
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Thank you for this exposition, Christ Walk.
Been in for 34 years and my husband and i and my children are still in trying to get out but it's so hard I keep thinking of them saying we will go to hell. I'm just scared 😱
they will say that to keep you in. don't listen to them! it's not true! look to the Bible and Bible only for truth!
Satan works through the lies they tell you. You will NOT go to Hell if you leave. You can have a relationship with the Lord Jesus still and read the Bible for yourself and ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding.
Trust Jesus to make a way and prepare to leave. May God open the door and may you be set free in the name of Jesus!
This happen to me if I left I was going to hell. I just got to the point where I’d rather be happy now and deal with hell later. I lost funds of 26 years completely shut the door on me. I left in 2021 and I will never go back to it again and let alone any church I’m pretty much done. Pls just leave.
Go to Jesus and the word for your guidance, that's what I did when I left. If they are telling you membership in their fellowship is the only way to be saved they lie. Faith in Jesus Christ saves not what church you go to.please get out. When I left I did not agree to go talk to them and cut all ties. I sent letters saying goodbye after I left and called and told the pastor I was done. Those that know God and are Spirit led are His, not led by man.
Very helpful, i was in Shinchonji Cult for 6 months back in 2016, most of your saying are just perfect match with that cult. I would have leave a lot sonner if I saw your video then.
My daughter married into a cult. No one believes us, she cut us off completely. She was smart and outgoing now she looks dead inside, she does not look like herself. Sometimes she looks drugged. NO ONE would help us. It is a long story but we missed the red flags. I cry everyday.
I am so sorry to hear that. My thoughts and prayers are with you both
Beat the cult out of her. That's your daughter lol.
Don't stop praying. May God strengthen you. He's able to do the impossible. Continue declaring her deliverance Isa 61
You people talking about prayer sound like you are the ones in a cult.
What about pastors indeed who.tell mentally ill people to give up taking medicine. They parade these people as miraculously healed.
I love your knowledge and your beautiful accent ❤️
I'm so upset over what my church did to me, and I don't know how to get over it!! 💔💔😢
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You need to forgive them and pray for them,we are all sinners saved by grace God will-lead you to where u need to be to receive healing and the truth❤Pray to him he loves you and wants to restore you ,what the enemy meant for evil God can turn into good that one day you will have a testimony to be able to minister-to others ❤
I attended a Baptist church as an adolescent and I was told that the Bible was the only book I needed for answers to my questions about religion. The pastor was God ordained and their sermons were inspired by the Holy Spirit which is God. If I wanted to read something else besides the Bible I was to pick a book from the church library. I shouldn’t attend a church from another denomination with friends that might invite me, instead I should invite my friends to my church and lead them to Christ. If I questioned the Bible or a sermon I would be warned,”Beware questioning the word of God”. God will punish doubters and nonbelievers for all eternity. And we were shown films about what hell will be like if we don’t live a godly life. This films were about fires, screaming and suffering from sinners in that place god has prepared. Yep, nightmares for me till I quit attending their movie nights.
Sounds like Jehovah's Witnesses! Thank you Beyond Belief.
OMG, thank you! This whole video screams Jehovah's Witnesses!
Church should be a place where you go and be sociable to others. I look at is as a free place to go lean the art of conversation. I stay away from the gossip, or the extra programs they have like bible study. I also volunteer at a bike/ski shop because I love the sport and meet people that way aswell. I work self employed so meeting people is a challenge so I have to push myself to get out there. Churches prey on the venerable and have you confess your sins so you can be addicted to the validation. BE CAREFUL. Use church very lightly, and know that what they believe is there business. I take it very tonge and cheek.
I went to one not evening thinking “cult” and the first time was great and the next time starting getting weird. I started noticing how mean the pastor was. All the men dressed the same, they shamed Catholics, they were wearing evil eye bracelets and they are extremely clingy. It’s disgusting
Kids stuck under parental rule be like: my parents think I'm in a cult. But they be in a cult tho for real tho.
Or they think you are being brainwashed for seeing the truth!
I’m just now leaving Calvinism. It’s super culty. I’m only now realizing it after leaving….
You explain these points well. Sadly it seems you have experience. - someone with experience.
Very much needs to be said. I have experienced alot of this in real life. Its healthy to question things and think for yourself.
Actually I experienced everything mentioned above in my current "church". I am ready to leave
Sorry to hear that I hope you are able to find peace
Can't believe this video is actually useful for a lot of people, that it actually had to be a made...
It begs the question is what's happening to these people that they can't differentiate these tell tell signs for themselves?
Why do they give authority to pastor Tom, Dick and Harry?
Very intriguing how we people can loose or intellect and trust the nature of Man.
Since they have like the verses and seem to be sticking to the Bible, for a new Christian that have never read it before
they wouldn’t know that it was just taken out of context.
That was at least what happened to me
They can disguise themselves very well, even better than a lot of you can think
human beings are easily manipulated it is how we are wired unfortunately. Being social animals has downfalls and this is a significant one
The majority of these are warnings against Narcissistic Behaviors from both individuals and the groupthink of the Mob.
My sister is in a religious cult .. please pray for her.
You made me feel alone..... but opened my eyes to important information
I'm so sorry you feel alone you most certainly are not many people have walked a similar path
this girl's accent is absolutely adorable.
Praise GOD for you and thank you for the reminders. GOD bless you more and family!😊🌷❤️☝️
+ They are Leaders (modern day Pharisees)who Misrepresenting our LORD Jesus Christ to the world by their teaching, conduct and lives. They served and used the name of our LORD in ther ministry but they’re cursed and unrecognized in the day of Judgment by the LORD. ...
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Matthew 7:21-23 KJV
“Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”
Acts 20:28 KJV
12. They are called the ICOC.
Great video! Interesting aspect about the dress code. How may I contact you? I want to speak to you concerning a project about cultural sensitivity in the church.
Feel free to email me it should be on my profile
This young lady has certainly done her homework. I was in a presuming cult for over 30 years .There is a lot of cultish practices in churches.
The UK is rapidly becoming more like the states in its culture In many ways.Not good for our Christian faith which should bo displaying the culture of the kingdom of God.We need to get back to acts of the apostles.
This girl is wrong in many ways she used no biblical doctrine to support her views of what she was saying. And the whole hair thing she said it's a biblical teaching that man should have moderate length hair and women should have longer hair because it's there covering and glory.
Elevation….. Steven Furtick is pastor worship for sure. All the one liners
As an athiest all religions seem to have some form of cult about them.
This sounds like the UPC
1. They are named Bethel Church in Redding, CA
I think I would walk out if they told someone to leave
Sounds very similar to the Apostolic church
What would have been best is to also provide scriptures to back up things. It’s always more effective when the scripture itself speaks and cuts the heart of people.
The Bible does not really discuss the framework of cults that I have seen
That's an eye opener.. thank you
happy to help God bless
nice one...thanks GB sis
I have never seen so many responses so ignorant about what a true church is. It is disappointing there is such biblical illiteracy and lack of knowledge of the Christian faith. The church is not about the pastor, nor is about the people; it is about the good news of Christ. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn’t even have to be a building. Worship is about God. Everything we do as the church is about God. Leave the opinions outside. As long as we concentrate on God in Christ not the pastor, not the people but God, the church cannot become a cult.
Remember, Christ is the center and head of the Church!
I’m pretty sure I attend a cult, one example was I went to a Bible study and I told one of the leader that the way the pastor was using tongues was not doctrinal and was in fact blasphemous because they believe anyone can speak in tongues you just have to get in the spirit and start chanting random fake words and when I told them this they were so furious and I pointed back to scripture to back my claim. I still attend this “church because I want to call them out and expose their lies
It was extremely hard to leave this church… but I left thank goodness
After serving in the church almost 30 years in an Apostolic church we got treated like dirt when we moved to a different church. Never got the chance to say goodbye or be ‘honorably dismissed’.
Only the true friends stayed in touch. All the fake Christians don’t show any love. 14:35
I was attending a Korean church. We wore special slippers, taught mistrust, and were constantly pressuring me to speak in their unique type of tongues. The pastor also shamed me several times during services.
Lord everything this girl saying is truth
Wise words young lady 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The spiritual of pride and Jezebel is strong in a cult.
I've been to several churches. The one my father grew up in and made me grow up is is definitely culty. They don't want you to wear makeup, jewelry, pants, or nail polish. Dresses or skirts must be worn passed the knees, no cutting your hair. Hair must be worn long and up. No music or TV or electronics. No tattoos or piercings. I have broken every rule. The one I went to with my mother was culty because they gossip and discuss everything you do to everyone. You are practically shunned once you do something they don't like. I was told I was wrong for being friends with gay people and I'd go to hell for being their friend as well as telling them to live their truth. I have seen and heard them talk politics in the church and saying something as disgusting as "Obama is the black devil!" "Trump was sent from God to be our savior!" As well as other things. I've recently come to the conclusion that religion itself is a cult. Most religions say the man is in charge and the woman must do what he says and cook and clean and take care of the children. Women are always told what to do,how to dress, how to act, ect ect. Religions often say other religions aren't valid. Most people are prejudice to people of color, lgbtqia people, and anything that isn't their norms. Yep, religion is a cult.
Sounds like you were explaining the Apostolic church I grew up in. I just finished this video and I’m 11 for 11 lol. I left 12 years ago when I was 18 and it still affects my daily life. I hope this video helps someone! It definitely confirmed what I knew, it’s good to hear it come from someone else though!
It is the same like the one I was in. We were not allowed to visit other churches, not allowed to listen to other pastors, not allowed to discuss about football clubs even asking if you don't understand, they said you mustn't want knowledge of some unusual things.
Sarah, please remember that there are many Bible based churches that don't do the thing you were subjected to. Just because a group pretends to be Christian, doesn't mean they are following the Bible. Scripture tells us that Satan disguises himself as an "angel of light" ( 2 Corinthians 11:14).
i agree with 'every thing' you are saying. i hope your story reaches many people. jesus isn't a bigot or a racist. true christians don't hate people...or judge them...
The difference between a cult, & a religion, is whether they stalk you, if you want to leave, like Scientologists do. Anything that promotes socialism/communism, is a cult, & is of the devil, because it destroys your constitutional freedom, to make your own choices, including whether to, or how you worship. Trump was sent to save our constitution, so the gospel can be freely taught, until Christ returns, & to make Jerusalem the capitol of Israel.
Awesome Teaching!!
The dress code thing is true. I was sitting in my car before service one morning (UPC) watching people turn up. They all had suits and ties and it dawned on me how it looked like a cult from the outside. What is this, an accountant convention?
I was in the band for years and brought up the point of why we have to wear a tie.
There's no real answer for a question like that. If you look up the history of where ties come from its even more stupid.
LOL! People want to look their best, b/c they never know when Christ will return. If he appears in church, they want to be prepared.
@@Fashn4LaDieSif that were the case for the way people dress in church, wouldn’t they dress like that all the time since we don’t know when Jesus will return?
The cat😹😹
They may have there own translation of the Bible
Left one after a week
I had different opinion, only the leaders opinion was correct
Most of what he taught was correct but he was overly controlling and if anyone tried to have an opinion they were shut down by him
Then because I questioned some of his stuff he got another member to bombard me with messages, the gaslighting was awful, I was goaded beyond belief but when I retorted back he played the victim
Luckily within only few meetings I left and blocked them
I screenshot all the conversations so have my evidence
I came from a G12 church I've experienced some of the mentioned and I left now I found a new church where I could call family but I've known they will adopt G12 too it's really bothering me.
What's wrong about G12 and what is the church called?
Your life is not bettered by that association,it only gets worse; run!
Are you still going to church? what church are you going to?
you forgot #12 - it is called a religion
Cult definitions
1) a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
2) a group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
all religions are Cults.
alternate definition of Cult
Cult is a term, in most contexts pejorative, for a relatively small group which is typically led by a charismatic and self-appointed leader, who tightly controls its members, requiring unwavering devotion to a set of beliefs and practices which are considered deviant.
still all religions are Cults. most have grown over the after there original leader died. "a relatively small group" is only there so the worlds major religions have a special pleading excuse to get out, and they all started as a relatively small group.
All religions are not cults, though you could argue many originated as cults. I'm writing my thesis about cult classification if you are interested, way too much for me to go into detail here.
the early 70s I was exposed to a occultism environment. A church in my hometown practiced a kind of "Duo Worship ". God in the day...Satan in the night. We used to run through the fields with them.
At night they literally stopped believing in being Christian and worshipped Satan. They were known to have practiced a particular ritual which was called the one hundred year ritual. It took place in 1871 in the area and then repeated in 1971 at Menantico Ponds.
Much of what they believed involved Judeo-Christian concepts. The ritual itself derived from the writings of medieval theologians where demons had hierarchies and legions.
After a body submerged at Menantico Ponds they were interrogated by police because they had information or an idea that this group were cultivating or training youths to perform this ritual.
The Menantico cult wore robes and masks ...and pounded on drums. This frightened people camping at Menantico. No one was generally aware if they were the same people in the church...HOWEVER...some people said they were. In the daytime they acted as prominent people in the community. They were thought to be Christians. Do you ya see how easy it is to fool people?
Yes!
They told me you would say this... Now I gotta sit here decoding masonic texters and living like Hermes.... That last matrix upgrade was harsh 💉