(Richard here) Having used Shimano Hollowtech cranksets and BB for many years on my road and gravel bikes, I now run nothing but the good old fashion square taper BB on my bikes. The square taper BB turns, in almost all cases, as freely as a Hollowtech BB at a fraction of the cost. The only thing sacrificed is a little weight. However, I can change cranks and chainrings at will using rather inexpensive 104BCD cranks and chainrings. To me, I prefer the simplicity and flexibility of square taper BB & cranksets.
I still run square taper (BB-UN26) on my 26" bike. I believe that BB lasts longer than any Hollowtech II, but taking it off is a pain as it requires too many tools. I like the simplicity of servicing Hollowtech BBs, but triple cranksets simply don't exist, so I'm forced on stocking UN26s as triple cranksets for square taper are still available. People would say to migrate to 29ers so I'd have more options and less costs, but in the end I like the bike that I ride and I'm happy with it.
I've been struggling with assembling a hollowtech setup on my steel frame but found that the two threaded bores are not well-aligned. This even after running two thread chasers through both sides. A sq. taper BB, however, will fit in without much difficulty. That plastic threaded-sleeve on the non-drive side is quite tolerant of machining errors in something like this arrangement, and that BB will last a very long time because it's nicely sealed from the factory. So yes, I'm going to use an old-fashioned sq. taper BB, too.
@NiceBikeService i personally don't have the patience to listen to all the useless details most techs have to say while demonstrating a repair. So I totally loved your approach and skills...in silence, obviously. Keep up the great work brother. Peace and Love every day
This was one of my first upgrades I done to my mountain bike I havea Giant Reveal it's 29er next to get the front fork but not wanting to blow over $300.00 hundred just for my computer mountain bike ok off to Harbor freight and getting a roller toolbag Happy New Year's. THANK YOU KRRP MAKING CONTE...
@@PuerRidcully Mine makes noises after 200km, Hollowtech seem to be extremely demanding to threads precision, even slightest misalignment make ball bearings scratch and even break the balls if you're unlucky. Happened to me, the repair by the dealer did not help.
Still not convinced if I should upgrade to a better squared spindle bracket or get a thru-spindle / hollowtech like this one. One thing I've read is that the fact the left crankarm is screwed in makes them more vulnerable to potential snaps if enough pedalling force is applied, whereas with the square spindle one this can never happen, one less thing to go wrong. The bearings positioned on the outside can also be problematic as they're more exposed to the elements. What I find crazy is the fact they created a proprietary shape for the left crankarm nut instead of a common hex, just to sell you yet another tool. 10:30 Great video tho, very ASMR!
All modern connecting rod systems above average are made with a solid axle. If you have an old system, there's no point in changing anything. You can unscrew the left nut with a knife 😉
Your hand gestures made me crack up, I especially loved it when you silently read read the Ht2 and”tap tap” the most important detail, bet you are a funny guy,lol ❤ 😂
@@NiceBikeService I appreciate your video. I am figuring out if I can run a 2x Microshift Advent 11-42. I want to increase the outer chain ring from a single 38t I currently have into either 42t or 44t outer and 34t inner w/ same cassette setup. ,
5:30 You should compare the weight with the new axle. The comparision you did here demonstrated old bearing + axle vs new bearing only (without axle). The axle is the heaviest part of the old bearing, too, so it's not a surprise that new part without the axle is much lighter.
After all one could add up the belonging components and compare, but yes it would be easier and more expressive to weight all "old" components at once as well as the replacement parts together. - Then only the difference of the teeth count(s) could have an impact on the comparison.
wonderful video very professional and well done using a lot grease it come along way it help dissamble parts easier without destroying the bike . I used white litum on BB that is coated lightly is there a high chance the bottom will sieze up? if I decide dissamble in the near future I had the bike almost one year and I never let the bike get wet at all and never wash the bike either. Your thought's and your opinion. Thank you
Hint: on the hollowtech bb there is a lot of grease plummed so you can take it with your finger and use during installation. It is the og shimano grease that is better than divinol fett
I recently did this on a 2001 Giant OCR-3. It was not easy to get the original parts off a 23 year old bike, but now it's rocking a 105 group set instead of a vintage Sora.
Hi I was wondering what model of Shimano cranks did you use? I would love to upgrade my bottom bracket and really prefer the 3x system since i don't have a problem with it. Love your content btw and keep up the great work.
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Hello, nice vidéo thx. Why is there no sealing plug on the axle at the right crank? The water and mud must go into the tube... I have the same setup with Shimano FC-T551.
Hola, no puedo extraer las bielas, se me razuró las roscas de las bielas utilizando el extractor de bielas, como hago para solucionarlo?😢 saludos desde Argentina, muy buenos tus videos.
Gracias por su comentario. Prueba a calentar la biela con un soplete de gas, y pon un poco de aceite líquido o wd-40 en la zona donde la biela se une con el eje del pedalier. Si después de estos procedimientos no consigues desmontarlo, tendrás que serrar el cigüeñal. A veces ayuda taladrar un pequeño agujero en la esquina del agujero cuadrado en el cigüeñal
Hello! I am new to the world of bicycles and I want to do maintenance on my own, I have a hollowtech bottom bracket, but I don't know which of the tools I should buy, as they tell me that there are various sizes.
If you have a hollowtech bottom bracket, then you will need a bottom bracket cup puller, an adjustable spanner, To replace the bearings you will need a Bottom Bracket Bearing Removal Tool. Cranks are removed with an hex key
En el montaje final de la biela, antes de colocar la biela izquierda. Que función hace esa especie de junta que apoya entre en pedalier y la cara interna de la biela? Gracias
I've never had to pound a bottom bracket tool to fit. You need to clean out the grooves in the bottom bracket cups before you try to fit the tool in there. Also, use a torque wrench when installing the new bottom bracket - the torque spec is listed right on the cups.
I two questions if you get the time, you greased the bb treads, but the threads have thread lock on them does this not defeat the purpose of the pre applied threadlock? I get why you greased the threads but would copper grease not be better suited? cheers
@@NiceBikeService ah cheers, I use copper grease on all threads it's been fantastic when coming to remove later I'm assuming they both do the same job, Ive never used calcium grease personally tho👌
Funny thing, I always go the other way. Square taper lasts longer (in some cases never changed) for me at least and with less annoying noises. Worth noting that I'm >100kg with a recorded peak watts over 1000. But then again I'll only ever fit Shimano.
I have the standard square taper on a trek Marlin 4 going through a UK winter commute only on tarmac roads but I'm 100kg push up a long steep hill 890 miles so far still good as new
150kg mtber with a 25kg fat bike around abouts 10kgs of water and tools I carry with me square taper lasts on average 3 rides when im going enduro have had a hallow II setup for more than 10 rides now seems solid will report back if it fails tho
Si te refieres a los ejes de las bielas, son más rígidos que el cuadrado simple. Pero los propios rodamientos del soporte inferior no difieren mucho en calidad (si es Shimano).
We use Divinol thick calcium grease for the bushings. The chain can be lubricated with any liquid mineral oil, but it is better to use a specialised one for chains, the main thing is to wipe off the excess grease after lubrication. The cassette does not need to be lubricated. We did not use super lube, in principle it may be suitable for hubs and threads, but we did not check, such a grease is not sold in our city.
if the crank arm has a bit of damage to the spindle, can you sand off and straighten the aluminium lines, to where they will fit back onto the axle? At the moment it will not go back onto the axle
@@NiceBikeService I actually tried hammering on the crank arm the wrong way around onto the axle spindle. It had the effect of straightening the aluminum crank arm spindle lines. After that I got the crank arm on the right way around.
i have a problem with my handbike its a Speedy handbike adapter to the wheelchair the bottom bracket its a old german model FAG BSA AA 1X37 24TPI square tape i was forced to cut the spindle i want to know if i can upgrade to the shimano hollowtech II please reply
Доброго дня. На жаль, я не можу вам нічого порадити, оскільки ніколи не бачив таких велосипедів. Вам краще звернутися до місцевої майстерні, де вони зможуть побачити ваш велосипед на власні очі.
In this case, do you need to have faced the sides of bb shell? I'm about to do the same thing in this video to my gravel.. except that it has a 68 mm bb shell.
Ja bym się mocno zastanowił nad taką zmianą. Suporty na kwadrat w rowerze dla amatora, wytrzymują wiele, wiele, wiele lat. A jeśli już, bo sztywność nam robi róznicę, to na jednym z moich filmów pokazuję dlaczego NIE bb-52. To słabo zabezpieczony i uszczelniony suport. Żeby się nie okazało, że będzie rozczarowanie, jak ten bb-52 trzeba będzie co sezon-dwa wymieniać, jeśli ktoś roweru regularnie nie serwisuje i nie dba, tylko jeździ bo błocie i deszczu i odstawia do piwnicy do następnej jazdy.
Es cierto, tengo bicicletas con cada uno de los sistemas, una cuadrante por durabilidad, para uso diario y otra con hollowtec II por estética y salidas ocasionales fuera del casco urbano.
suporty na kwadrat to największe zło jakie miałem w rowerach, zawsze padało w środku sezonu, co roku trzeba było wymieniać, jak zmieniłem korbę na kwadrat 3x na hollowtech 2x to masa w tym miejscu mi spadła o kilogram
I'd call them "upgrades". Square-taper BBs and cranks arms are proven to last decades. I just got 21 years out of a UN-52. Put in a UN-300 this spring, which should last at least ten years.
Dzień dobry. Jeśli masz ramę o szerokości 73 mm, zrób tak, jak pokazano na filmie - jedna przekładka po prawej stronie. Jeśli szyba ma 68 mm, dodaj po jednym pierścieniu z każdej strony (2 po prawej, jeden po lewej).
To prevent the threads from sticking to the cups of the lower bracket. If you do not lubricate, you may have problems dismantling the bottom bracket in the future and may damage the threads on the bike frame
Hi sorry to bother you , I have a cube attention SL that has a double crank and I want to add a trekking triple like you have done in your video. I have the same hollow tech BB and the crank I want to add uses that same BB my question is how do I know what front derailleur to pair with the triple crank my current one is SLX D type 11 speed double , I will be changing my cassette to 10 speed and rear derailleur from M8000 to T8000 trekking 10 speed. So very sorry to bother you
Chances are that front mech will still work fine depending on what ratio you’re going to and from, if it’ll reach far enough with the limits wound out then a 3sp lh shifter might do the job. Otherwise a 3x10 m611 front mech and either that matching one or the t8000 shifter would be your best bet and it’ll do top or bottom pull.
Hi, is it ok not to install the plastic sleeve in the center of a hollowtech BB? It is getting in the way of my dropper post internal cable so I am thinking not to install it. Thanks in advance.
@@BlackyBrownDestruction9337 I bought a new crank and the spring spacer seems to make my crank slower because of the tension in the bearings. I was thinking of using spacers myself
Salve. bello video complimenti! per sostituire il perno quadro dalla mia bici ho trovato il movimento centrale hollowtech ma non trovo la guarnitura tripla, mi sa dire dove la trovo ? grazie (la mia bici venuta com rapporto tourney 3 x 7 movimento centrale perno quadro bc73
I just did this. Only I had the square taper one cut down because it was stuck and the removal threads were gone (during my heavy removal attempt , the thread broke... ) So yeah, it was time to change for integrated. Although: I did not grease the plastic part and I actually read the manual about which spacers do I need based on the shell size - I hope I did not make a mistake
I notice with these hollow tech II systems...they don't spin very freely...they have quite a bit of drag to it, like they rather stiff. Must add to the peddling.
Hey, could you help me with this question?🤔🤔🤔 I want to assemble my bike in a mountain model (all terrain) but I want to do it this way because I don't like the ones they sell and I want to know if you can help me. the change is this in the second 40, i saw you install a three-in-one platter. which the bicycles of these times sell with a single and small chainring. What carbon fiber bicycle frame can accept a three-speed chainring, that is, three chainrings in one but accepting the connection of a 12-speed sprocket. in short words that the bicycle remains in 3x12 speeds. If you do not understand my request, tell me to explain in another way. I stay tuned to your comments
@@torrrock1788 forget about 3x systems, they won't give you anything but the extra weight. The range of your transmission can't be infinite because the chain has fixed length and rear deraileurs have maximum capacity (google "rear deraileur capacity") of about 40 teeth. That means, if you have a 11-42 cassette, the difference at cranks can not exceed 10 teeth, no matter how many stars you have there. And 11-52 cassette can only be used in 1x systems. You could, theoretically, find 11-28 12-speed cassette to build a 3x12 transmission but I doubt that THIS is what you really want.
@@ИванСеливанов-ш4щ Thanks for reply. What happens that today's (mountain) bikes the transmission is low. when you want to gain speed on your route, the 28 or 30 tooth chainring is not enough to give more speed. but the 50 tooth chainrings give you more speed on the road, it is something that you see the SCOTT BICYCLE models. The problem that I want to use a mountain bike but with the 12x3 speed transmission. is it understood...?
@Иван Селиванов your advice is only true if you want to cross-chain. Usually you don't want to but you might happen to crosschain so this might be a problem. If you avoid it it should be ok. I wouldn't buy new frame for this though. If you don't like new bikes buy an old bike and upgrade it to your liking.
hi , what the name of the part you removed at 3:31 mine is broken , 👍 whouaaa , shame on me I see now @t 4:28 Shimano Bottom Bracket SM-BB52 many thank for your video 😀
Hello, your channel is very good, they have also subscribed! I would like to ask if there is an MTB with a square shaft drive with 3 plates and 8 gears at the back! I would like to replace it with an integrated gearbox, but they only sell 3x9 speed! So, if I replace it, I will have to replace the entire rear gear and gear as well? Is it a problem that the new gearbox is recommended for a 3x9 speed system? Thanks!From Hungary!
You should have gone with an '08 3X Shimano M770 XT HollowTek 2 crank. I've had one on my 2007 Trek 4300 since well 2008😁🤘🤘; still with the original chainrings😱😏 (💰375.00🍁😁🤙🤙)
Witam opis wprowadza w błąd mechanizm korbowy Shimano Hollowtech II jest pusty w środku a ten na powyższym filmiku nie jest.. tutaj to jest system sztywnej osi czyli pusta oś a zintegrowana korba odkuwana . / 9:32 sek widać ramię korby/
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Name and size of tools you used please...I need to upgrade my MTB
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(Richard here) Having used Shimano Hollowtech cranksets and BB for many years on my road and gravel bikes, I now run nothing but the good old fashion square taper BB on my bikes. The square taper BB turns, in almost all cases, as freely as a Hollowtech BB at a fraction of the cost. The only thing sacrificed is a little weight. However, I can change cranks and chainrings at will using rather inexpensive 104BCD cranks and chainrings. To me, I prefer the simplicity and flexibility of square taper BB & cranksets.
you can buy lightweight 150 -180gram square taper bb online.. its about 100-200 grams lighter than stock square taper bb
I still run square taper (BB-UN26) on my 26" bike. I believe that BB lasts longer than any Hollowtech II, but taking it off is a pain as it requires too many tools.
I like the simplicity of servicing Hollowtech BBs, but triple cranksets simply don't exist, so I'm forced on stocking UN26s as triple cranksets for square taper are still available.
People would say to migrate to 29ers so I'd have more options and less costs, but in the end I like the bike that I ride and I'm happy with it.
I've been struggling with assembling a hollowtech setup on my steel frame but found that the two threaded bores are not well-aligned. This even after running two thread chasers through both sides.
A sq. taper BB, however, will fit in without much difficulty. That plastic threaded-sleeve on the non-drive side is quite tolerant of machining errors in something like this arrangement, and that BB will last a very long time because it's nicely sealed from the factory. So yes, I'm going to use an old-fashioned sq. taper BB, too.
My favorite part was the silence.
a lot of people write that it's nice when there's no music in the background.
@NiceBikeService i personally don't have the patience to listen to all the useless details most techs have to say while demonstrating a repair. So I totally loved your approach and skills...in silence, obviously. Keep up the great work brother.
Peace and Love every day
You Mean heavy breathing... Hufff hufff
Se puede hacer con unas bb30
What is the size of the long tools?
Your video helped me replace the cartridge bottom brackets on my old road bike and folding bike with Shimano BB-RS500 and BB-RS501.
Thank you.
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Скорей всего пересвет.
Не смутило взвешивание?
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@@NamNaz А Вы можете сказать что он сравнил!
@@МихайлоБеззапонний-м4з я сравниваю со своими деталями.
Nicely shown and done step by step. Greetings from a colleague from Poland.
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you should check chain line and clearance between frame and ring gears, to adjust it with spacers(left or right side)
Looks like he put one spacer on the drive side, which for a 73mm bb shell would be correct.
I'm about to attempt this, thanks for the tip
aww this is the best explained video 📹 of changing the BB, just need the right tools and some patience and your are good to go. Thanks man 🙏
And mostly all this with one hand! Good job filming and servicing your bike! I subscribed for sure. Very well done bro.
THE very best video on YT that I have seen showing how to to this!
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This is one of my planned upgrades for my mtb. Thanks for the thorough video.
glad to be of service! thanks for your feedback 😘
self explainatory, great video indeed, thanks. all the info I needed!
The Shimano HollowTek 2 cranks and bottom brackets were/are a game changer 🤘🤘 "YEAH❗️"
This was one of my first upgrades I done to my mountain bike I havea Giant Reveal it's 29er next to get the front fork but not wanting to blow over $300.00 hundred just for my computer mountain bike ok off to Harbor freight and getting a roller toolbag Happy New Year's. THANK YOU KRRP MAKING CONTE...
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HT II cranksets are really great and Shimano BB-s, I personally use M800 BB and it still works fine after 2000 Km
2000km isn't much though. Would be weird if it broke that fast.
@@PuerRidcully Mine makes noises after 200km, Hollowtech seem to be extremely demanding to threads precision, even slightest misalignment make ball bearings scratch and even break the balls if you're unlucky. Happened to me, the repair by the dealer did not help.
Still not convinced if I should upgrade to a better squared spindle bracket or get a thru-spindle / hollowtech like this one. One thing I've read is that the fact the left crankarm is screwed in makes them more vulnerable to potential snaps if enough pedalling force is applied, whereas with the square spindle one this can never happen, one less thing to go wrong. The bearings positioned on the outside can also be problematic as they're more exposed to the elements.
What I find crazy is the fact they created a proprietary shape for the left crankarm nut instead of a common hex, just to sell you yet another tool. 10:30
Great video tho, very ASMR!
All modern connecting rod systems above average are made with a solid axle. If you have an old system, there's no point in changing anything. You can unscrew the left nut with a knife 😉
@@NiceBikeService Right, didn't think of that lol.
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Your hand gestures made me crack up, I especially loved it when you silently read read the Ht2 and”tap tap” the most important detail, bet you are a funny guy,lol ❤ 😂
@@NiceBikeService I appreciate your video. I am figuring out if I can run a 2x Microshift Advent 11-42. I want to increase the outer chain ring from a single 38t I currently have into either 42t or 44t outer and 34t inner w/ same cassette setup. ,
5:30 You should compare the weight with the new axle. The comparision you did here demonstrated old bearing + axle vs new bearing only (without axle). The axle is the heaviest part of the old bearing, too, so it's not a surprise that new part without the axle is much lighter.
After all one could add up the belonging components and compare, but yes it would be easier and more expressive to weight all "old" components at once as well as the replacement parts together. - Then only the difference of the teeth count(s) could have an impact on the comparison.
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That's what I'd liked to say exactly
I did better and added both weighings together.
Square crank + bottom bracket = 1,158 grams.
Integrated crank + bottom bracket = 961 grams.
wonderful video very professional and well done using a lot grease it come along way it help dissamble parts easier without destroying the bike . I used white litum on BB that is coated lightly is there a high chance the bottom will sieze up? if I decide dissamble in the near future I had the bike almost one year and I never let the bike get wet at all and never wash the bike either. Your thought's and your opinion. Thank you
Hint: on the hollowtech bb there is a lot of grease plummed so you can take it with your finger and use during installation. It is the og shimano grease that is better than divinol fett
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What tool have you used to remove the initial crank? I like the bolt system to make the tool stay in place.
It doesn't have a name.
@@NiceBikeService ok... you made it yourself? You bought it? Seems very practical.
great video! 😊
May i know what kind of grease do you use?
I recently did this on a 2001 Giant OCR-3. It was not easy to get the original parts off a 23 year old bike, but now it's rocking a 105 group set instead of a vintage Sora.
best thing i ever did to my bike going from 4 sided gizmo to hollowtech ...that square shaft always got loose .
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I liked the material, without unnecessary talk, can you record how to change shifters by carrying out links inside the frame?
Very good and effective Video, Thanks
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Hi I was wondering what model of Shimano cranks did you use? I would love to upgrade my bottom bracket and really prefer the 3x system since i don't have a problem with it. Love your content btw and keep up the great work.
I can't say for sure because it was a long time ago.
It's some kind of shimano model.
You can choose by the number of speeds that are available in your city.
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Hello, nice vidéo thx.
Why is there no sealing plug on the axle at the right crank?
The water and mud must go into the tube... I have the same setup with Shimano FC-T551.
Even if dirt and water gets into the axle, it will not affect anything, on the contrary, it will dry faster👍
Hey and what axes do you recommend me more in duration and quality 🤔
Why didn't you torqued the bb if you have the big torque wrench? That's important, also the preload too on the axle cap.
Thank you for your comment. Our torque wrench is not large enough to tighten BB cups🐱
Hola, no puedo extraer las bielas, se me razuró las roscas de las bielas utilizando el extractor de bielas, como hago para solucionarlo?😢 saludos desde Argentina, muy buenos tus videos.
Gracias por su comentario. Prueba a calentar la biela con un soplete de gas, y pon un poco de aceite líquido o wd-40 en la zona donde la biela se une con el eje del pedalier. Si después de estos procedimientos no consigues desmontarlo, tendrás que serrar el cigüeñal. A veces ayuda taladrar un pequeño agujero en la esquina del agujero cuadrado en el cigüeñal
So square movement could fit a standard shimano?
Hello! I am new to the world of bicycles and I want to do maintenance on my own, I have a hollowtech bottom bracket, but I don't know which of the tools I should buy, as they tell me that there are various sizes.
If you have a hollowtech bottom bracket, then you will need a bottom bracket cup puller, an adjustable spanner, To replace the bearings you will need a Bottom Bracket Bearing Removal Tool. Cranks are removed with an hex key
Is the nut important which you have at top of leg
How do you figure out the correct chain line with the new crankset?
Usually the crankset manufacturer indicates the recommended chain line on the packaging or in the manual
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Why do you apply grease on the threads? Shouldn't you use a threadlocker instead?
If you fix the threads instead of lubricating them, the lower bracket will "grow" to the frame and unscrew along with the threads in the future
En el montaje final de la biela, antes de colocar la biela izquierda. Que función hace esa especie de junta que apoya entre en pedalier y la cara interna de la biela? Gracias
Great hollotech. Nice video.
what lubrication do you use on crank extractor tool just somthing like chain oil ?
We use hydraulic brake grease, but you can use chain grease or any mineral grease.
I've never had to pound a bottom bracket tool to fit. You need to clean out the grooves in the bottom bracket cups before you try to fit the tool in there. Also, use a torque wrench when installing the new bottom bracket - the torque spec is listed right on the cups.
Thank you for your feedback
Looking to do the same - but PowerSpline out & DUB in!
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I two questions if you get the time, you greased the bb treads, but the threads have thread lock on them does this not defeat the purpose of the pre applied threadlock?
I get why you greased the threads but would copper grease not be better suited?
cheers
@@NiceBikeService ah cheers, I use copper grease on all threads it's been fantastic when coming to remove later I'm assuming they both do the same job, Ive never used calcium grease personally tho👌
What was the chain line with those cranks and those spacers?
the line was fine.
@@NiceBikeServiceFine or not, I was just curious what it was.
Funny thing, I always go the other way. Square taper lasts longer (in some cases never changed) for me at least and with less annoying noises. Worth noting that I'm >100kg with a recorded peak watts over 1000. But then again I'll only ever fit Shimano.
UN-55 RIP Price/performance s-tier.
I have the standard square taper on a trek Marlin 4 going through a UK winter commute only on tarmac roads but I'm 100kg push up a long steep hill 890 miles so far still good as new
150kg mtber with a 25kg fat bike around abouts 10kgs of water and tools I carry with me square taper lasts on average 3 rides when im going enduro have had a hallow II setup for more than 10 rides now seems solid will report back if it fails tho
@@PhysicsOperator how many miles per ride? are you trolling? why such a heavy bike and setup for enduro
@@BakerK-p6f maybe considered cross country for people in other places
I understand this is an old thread, but what crankset did you remove?
I don't remember, some kind of "Proville" model.
Please provide
Name of tools using or buy links
RUclips doesn't like it))))
Ciao, video molto chiaro. Ma quel grasso verde dove lo hai trovato?
Esse tipo de movimento central é mais resistente que o ponta quadrada?
Aqui en Valparaíso, todo es cerro y por ende los rodamientos del eje de pedales no me duran nada. ¿Estos del video son resistentes?
Si te refieres a los ejes de las bielas, son más rígidos que el cuadrado simple. Pero los propios rodamientos del soporte inferior no difieren mucho en calidad (si es Shimano).
What lube/grease do you use? is multi purpose lube such as super lube good? What lube u use for chain and cassette?
We use Divinol thick calcium grease for the bushings. The chain can be lubricated with any liquid mineral oil, but it is better to use a specialised one for chains, the main thing is to wipe off the excess grease after lubrication. The cassette does not need to be lubricated. We did not use super lube, in principle it may be suitable for hubs and threads, but we did not check, such a grease is not sold in our city.
I rebuilt my MTB into a Frankensgravel bike recently. I regret not upgrading to a better bottom bracket. I did replace but a similar one, squared
The bottom brackets for the square can also be of high quality and last a long time. Good luck with your cycling experiments!
if the crank arm has a bit of damage to the spindle, can you sand off and straighten the aluminium lines, to where they will fit back onto the axle? At the moment it will not go back onto the axle
@@NiceBikeService I actually tried hammering on the crank arm the wrong way around onto the axle spindle. It had the effect of straightening the aluminum crank arm spindle lines. After that I got the crank arm on the right way around.
Very professional.
whats the tool for installing the lock ring of the crank on the non-drive side?
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i have a problem with my handbike its a Speedy handbike adapter to the wheelchair the bottom bracket its a old german model FAG BSA AA 1X37 24TPI square tape i was forced to cut the spindle i want to know if i can upgrade to the shimano hollowtech II please reply
Доброго дня. На жаль, я не можу вам нічого порадити, оскільки ніколи не бачив таких велосипедів. Вам краще звернутися до місцевої майстерні, де вони зможуть побачити ваш велосипед на власні очі.
In this case, do you need to have faced the sides of bb shell?
I'm about to do the same thing in this video to my gravel.. except that it has a 68 mm bb shell.
@@NiceBikeService ok thanks for the reply! Have a nice day
Witam, jakiego używasz klucza dynamometrycznego? Pozdrawiam
Dzień dobry. Ten klucz ma wiele lat, więc identyfikacja producenta jest niemożliwa😺
Hi, I am having a 60 yr old bicycle in Chennai, Tamilnadu, India. Can you restore and upgrade it?
of course we can) come to Kiev ))))
@@NiceBikeService I wish I could 🥲
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Why install that low grade deprecated model? Why not the BB-MT800 or BB-MT801 instead?
Ja bym się mocno zastanowił nad taką zmianą. Suporty na kwadrat w rowerze dla amatora, wytrzymują wiele, wiele, wiele lat. A jeśli już, bo sztywność nam robi róznicę, to na jednym z moich filmów pokazuję dlaczego NIE bb-52. To słabo zabezpieczony i uszczelniony suport. Żeby się nie okazało, że będzie rozczarowanie, jak ten bb-52 trzeba będzie co sezon-dwa wymieniać, jeśli ktoś roweru regularnie nie serwisuje i nie dba, tylko jeździ bo błocie i deszczu i odstawia do piwnicy do następnej jazdy.
Es cierto, tengo bicicletas con cada uno de los sistemas, una cuadrante por durabilidad, para uso diario y otra con hollowtec II por estética y salidas ocasionales fuera del casco urbano.
suporty na kwadrat to największe zło jakie miałem w rowerach, zawsze padało w środku sezonu, co roku trzeba było wymieniać, jak zmieniłem korbę na kwadrat 3x na hollowtech 2x to masa w tym miejscu mi spadła o kilogram
@@AndrzejZalewskiYT Wkład suportu na kwadrat jest tani i trwały. A w H2 piętą Achillesową są łożyska
Kullandın yeşil yağın ismi nedir bende alcam kaliteli bişeye benziyor
Bu Divinol Fett Top 2003'tür, eğer bulamazsanız, herhangi bir kalın kalsiyum yağı işinizi görecektir
Erinomainen video. Voinen siis tällä ohjeella asentaa uusia osia vanhaan pyörääni. Minulla siinä tuommoinen neliömallinen kiinnitys polkimille.
ilo olla avuksi! kiitos palautteesta 😘
Do you need to adjust front der. for new crankset, because the bearings are outside from the shell?
I'd call them "upgrades". Square-taper BBs and cranks arms are proven to last decades. I just got 21 years out of a UN-52. Put in a UN-300 this spring, which should last at least ten years.
I just had a hollow tech bb replaced last year. It lasted almost 5000 miles
Моя каретка под квадрат проехала всего 12000 км , хотелось бы больше
Я за полгода сменил две каретки шимановские...@@mozgoyadniy9885
i have BB-52 not work on R8100 Crankset need to change to BBR60?
There will be no difference, try removing or adding spacers in the bottom bracket
Witam
Mam Suport rowerowy SHIMANO Deore BB-MT501 i korbę slx ile podkładek użyć ?
Dzień dobry. Jeśli masz ramę o szerokości 73 mm, zrób tak, jak pokazano na filmie - jedna przekładka po prawej stronie. Jeśli szyba ma 68 mm, dodaj po jednym pierścieniu z każdej strony (2 po prawej, jeden po lewej).
Why do you put grease on thread lock?
To prevent the threads from sticking to the cups of the lower bracket. If you do not lubricate, you may have problems dismantling the bottom bracket in the future and may damage the threads on the bike frame
@@NiceBikeService well...but that's the purpous of the thread lock...
Nice cool and well detailed 👍
Hi sorry to bother you , I have a cube attention SL that has a double crank and I want to add a trekking triple like you have done in your video. I have the same hollow tech BB and the crank I want to add uses that same BB my question is how do I know what front derailleur to pair with the triple crank my current one is SLX D type 11 speed double , I will be changing my cassette to 10 speed and rear derailleur from M8000 to T8000 trekking 10 speed. So very sorry to bother you
Chances are that front mech will still work fine depending on what ratio you’re going to and from, if it’ll reach far enough with the limits wound out then a 3sp lh shifter might do the job. Otherwise a 3x10 m611 front mech and either that matching one or the t8000 shifter would be your best bet and it’ll do top or bottom pull.
Wskaniały filmik, dzięki.
Hi, is it ok not to install the plastic sleeve in the center of a hollowtech BB? It is getting in the way of my dropper post internal cable so I am thinking not to install it. Thanks in advance.
Might damage your dropper cable though. The axis will spin and the dropper cable might rubb.
@@Jacksparrow4986 your right. Thanks
I use spacers for the hollow shaft instead of the bb, I think it’s easier to adjust
Spacers instead of the bottom bracket? Do you mean spacers instead of spring washer?
@@Leo-gt1bx on the axle instead of bb
@@BlackyBrownDestruction9337 Do you mean for getting the correct bearing pressure? I don't follow
@@Leo-gt1bx it’s alot thinner to get the exact measurements
@@BlackyBrownDestruction9337 I bought a new crank and the spring spacer seems to make my crank slower because of the tension in the bearings. I was thinking of using spacers myself
Fajnie posklejany taśmą klucz .😮
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Buen trabajo, nice. 👍
e zajebisty film, tego potrzebowałem
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Udostępnij ten film swoim znajomym,
pomoże to w rozwoju kanału! 📈😘
Can you tell us what kind of new crankset was installed?
IS IT possible to Upgrade from octalink to hollowtech II? Lets say because hollowtech II IS cheaper AS octalink.
Salve. bello video complimenti! per sostituire il perno quadro dalla mia bici ho trovato il movimento centrale hollowtech ma non trovo la guarnitura tripla, mi sa dire dove la trovo ? grazie (la mia bici venuta com rapporto tourney 3 x 7 movimento centrale perno quadro bc73
Nice video, well done, thanks for sharing :)
I just did this. Only I had the square taper one cut down because it was stuck and the removal threads were gone (during my heavy removal attempt , the thread broke... ) So yeah, it was time to change for integrated.
Although:
I did not grease the plastic part and I actually read the manual about which spacers do I need based on the shell size - I hope I did not make a mistake
Ciao, hai il link per acquistare la chiave per smontare il movimento centrale? Grazie
Шикарный видос ! Велосипедный ASMR просто ! ))
ЗЫ А что за зеленая смазка в шприце ?
@@NiceBikeService , спасибо !
Very good work
What is the site to buy spare parts please?
Good afternoon. I only know local and European shops, Bikeinn, Bike24, bike-discount.de have delivery and different countries
I notice with these hollow tech II systems...they don't spin very freely...they have quite a bit of drag to it, like they rather stiff. Must add to the peddling.
I have an old trek navigator and the bottom bracket measures out to be 73x116mm cant seem to find any that size. Any suggestions.
Boa noite. Vc sabe qual cartucho de retorno serve na suspensão suntour xcm rl ds 29, coil spring 100mm da sl329?
Hey, could you help me with this question?🤔🤔🤔
I want to assemble my bike in a mountain model (all terrain) but I want to do it this way because I don't like the ones they sell and I want to know if you can help me.
the change is this in the second 40, i saw you install a three-in-one platter. which the bicycles of these times sell with a single and small chainring.
What carbon fiber bicycle frame can accept a three-speed chainring, that is, three chainrings in one but accepting the connection of a 12-speed sprocket. in short words that the bicycle remains in 3x12 speeds.
If you do not understand my request, tell me to explain in another way.
I stay tuned to your comments
@@NiceBikeService I don't know, that's why I ask you which frame should be used to assemble my bicycle.
@@NiceBikeService ok
@@torrrock1788 forget about 3x systems, they won't give you anything but the extra weight. The range of your transmission can't be infinite because the chain has fixed length and rear deraileurs have maximum capacity (google "rear deraileur capacity") of about 40 teeth. That means, if you have a 11-42 cassette, the difference at cranks can not exceed 10 teeth, no matter how many stars you have there. And 11-52 cassette can only be used in 1x systems. You could, theoretically, find 11-28 12-speed cassette to build a 3x12 transmission but I doubt that THIS is what you really want.
@@ИванСеливанов-ш4щ Thanks for reply.
What happens that today's (mountain) bikes the transmission is low. when you want to gain speed on your route, the 28 or 30 tooth chainring is not enough to give more speed.
but the 50 tooth chainrings give you more speed on the road, it is something that you see the SCOTT BICYCLE models.
The problem that I want to use a mountain bike but with the 12x3 speed transmission.
is it understood...?
@Иван Селиванов your advice is only true if you want to cross-chain. Usually you don't want to but you might happen to crosschain so this might be a problem. If you avoid it it should be ok. I wouldn't buy new frame for this though. If you don't like new bikes buy an old bike and upgrade it to your liking.
hi , what the name of the part you removed at 3:31 mine is broken , 👍 whouaaa , shame on me I see now @t 4:28 Shimano Bottom Bracket
SM-BB52 many thank for your video 😀
Thank you for your feedback! 😘
Hello, your channel is very good, they have also subscribed! I would like to ask if there is an MTB with a square shaft drive with 3 plates and 8 gears at the back! I would like to replace it with an integrated gearbox, but they only sell 3x9 speed! So, if I replace it, I will have to replace the entire rear gear and gear as well? Is it a problem that the new gearbox is recommended for a 3x9 speed system?
Thanks!From Hungary!
@@NiceBikeService Thank you very much, I will try it!
7:27 etc. Edit in *still* pictures (from your phone if you want) so you aren't fighting the autofocus, etc. in these situations.
Thank you for your feedback. This is an old video, the picture will look better in the future.
Good job. Thanks
Recambios de alta calidad y durabilidad 🇻🇪
You should have gone with an '08 3X Shimano M770 XT HollowTek 2 crank. I've had one on my 2007 Trek 4300 since well 2008😁🤘🤘; still with the original chainrings😱😏
(💰375.00🍁😁🤙🤙)
Hola, ¿la palanca o cañon es personalizado se puede comprar ? 2:59
Buenas tardes. Nuestra tienda y taller se encuentran en otro país 🐱
Witam opis wprowadza w błąd mechanizm korbowy Shimano Hollowtech II jest pusty w środku a ten na powyższym filmiku nie jest..
tutaj to jest system sztywnej osi czyli pusta oś a zintegrowana korba odkuwana . / 9:32 sek widać ramię korby/
No właśnie. Jak według ciebie powinien się nazywać?
@@NiceBikeService
Shimano nazywa to 2-piece crank set