I was fitted earlier this year for some p770s with stiff graphite shafts as an 18 handicapper going from off the shelf m2 irons. The difference is night and day and I've finished the summer season now playing off 13 (whs 11.3). Beautiful irons, that have completely transformed my game.
My guess as to why they brought out a new set was to blend with the new CB. Tried blending the MC with the 770 and they just don’t match up. They worked on matching the lofts and flight to go with the new CB. I’m going for a fitting next month.
Redesigned based off the looks of the T100/150 perhaps? When I first saw these that was my initial thoughts. Ball felt good off the face and they sounded nice indoors but went with the Wilson Staff blades.
Exactly what I thought too, CP. And (almost) exactly what I did - put a blade/CB combo set in the bag. There's nothing better on the market than the Wilson's.
Keep it real my guy, don’t delete videos. Stand by your product. It wasn’t a good look, but it’s even worse that people have the receipts of the comment section and a worse look to delete it
@@Golfing-AddiCt he deleted his Titleist fitting video on his HIT channel because everyone was voicing their displeasure of how he acted throughout the entire video.
@@knightriderkitt3000 We never release our irons in the winter, irons are fall releases. 790 got released in july 23', 770 along with the old MB and MC got released in july 22'
The video has an error at 1.30 and the sound is all over the place. However the grpagicsnon the Portrush video closed the gap on the Peter Finch editing.
It seems like all they tried to do for this model was dial in the spin more. The '23 model ran out a bit more on average than the new ones. So maybe since the 770's are profiled (generally) for better players, they wanted to offer that little extra control? Incredibly close but that seems to me what they are trying to achieve
Taylor Made have said the new P.770's will spin a little more and be shorter than the previous model so that it can combo better with the new P7.CB as the lofts match on both .
I’m still playing my 2021 P770s. I still prefer the looks of those. And they still perform just as good as both of the new models. Completely not worth paying so much to “upgrade” to a newer model. Unless you have the money and want something new in the bag
Thanks for the review Rick. I literally just got the p770 the old model 2 months ago and now they just came out with a new ones😂. Anyway I haven't had a chance to try the newer version and don't think I would anyway this last year's model has been the most perfect irons I have ever hit all the way down to the 4 iron and I even picked up the approach wedge which I usually don't in a set but the approach wedge is so good I had to get it. Thanks for your honest review TaylorMade are awesome and killing it. By the way really love your HIT Channel.
I got fitted for P770's on June 27th. Picked them up at the pro shop July 22nd. Then got the email from Golf Galaxy a week later these new ones were being released. Not disappointed in my 2023 version irons as I'm only a combined 1 over par total over my last three rounds, but, I still would prefer to have the newest tech considering I paid full price for what I thought would be the newest version for at least another year.
Answer is that the P-Series irons that came out last year were supposed to come out at the end of 2022, but ended up being pushed back due to inventory issues to January of 2023.
@@joshuagaughan2902 the hollow body version we know of today came out in 2020. Looking back, it looks like December 2022 they showed off the refreshed version. So 1.5 year since the last one?
The P-7CB caused quite a stir when it first showed up as a single lone 4 iron in several pga tour bags with PROTO stamped on it, a very positive reaction and will be taylormade's hot seller, whether in full sets or 7-pw, maybe even 5-pw with different long irons/utility irons. Just how I see it based on the cb's looks alone And stellar performance. The new 770 here seems to have caused a mixed reaction at best just reading through the comments here, lol!
Love the video Rick. Seems crazy for a company to be putting out irons that are essentially identical as an iron they released a year ago. It's almost a slap in the face to the consumer. Thanks for calling it out. A little constructive criticism though. I've noticed a trend on the new channel where the editing and mixing is just not the same standard as the main channel. I mean, a year ago, Rick shiels would not be releasing videos with missing links and distorted left/right audio. I appreciate how much content you've been putting out on the new channel, but there needs to be better quality control going on.
P790’s 2023 here and they’re amazing. Scotty Cameron putter dropped my number of putts by 7 also. I went from spider tour x to Scotty Newport 2 plus, huge improvement. Also, the high-toe wedge by TM wow!
vocals are only coming out on the right. my advice is have someone who didn't do the editing give it a watch before publishing the video to catch any mistakes
I bought the p770s 3 months ago and then this ones come out lol. Lucky for me i got mine at a discount price and only paid half. Was thinking of selling them and getting these, but thanks to your review ill juat keep the 2023s
It was a disaster. Rick was super rude to the fitter, super negative the whole time, and I’m assuming they took it down because it was a really bad look for Rick.
I play the 2020 versions and I love them. I went in for an iron fitting earlier this year just to get new shafts and the fitter at club champion said there was like no difference between mine and the 2023 model. a 2-3 year release is perfect, Titleist does it right.
Thanks for the review put my mind at rest got the 2023 model after Xmas was gutted to see the new model appear 🤷🏼♂️but got a good deal so even happier after your review 😅thanks
Hypothetically if I wasn’t in the market last year but I am now and I want the latest and greatest, I’d now be looking at a different manufacturer potentially. I don’t think it’s a bad move by TM to refresh the 770’s in a little over a year.
I think the new ones are significantly better. They are thinner, bit imo they feel better. First time ever I could say I would game the iron. Combo with the cb
I'm on a ten year cycle with irons. Have a season and a half left on my Titleist 716 AP2's. And if the grooves are still decent, I'll get them reshafed and maybe crank the lofts a degree or two.
Well done for calling it as it is, get last years clubs on a better deal. What every golfer needs to hear, not what any manufacturer would say. The new ones do look slightly sexier though.
Hey Rick! Thanks for yet another great review. Those irons look stunning. Question for you - how come you don't review Srixon irons anymore (or have I just missed those reviews?)? I remember your review some years ago of the Srixon Z-series at the Grove. You seemed to love those irons back then. Just curious! 🙂
I know this will get lost in the sea but ive got the srizon zforged 2. Its the most forgiving blade ive ever hit and would love to see your thoughts on them
The newer version spins more. Easier to blend with a set of their new CB irons. I actually can’t slag them off. If I went with a whole set of 770’s I would just get last year’s model. If I wanted to mix with the new CB I’m taking the updated version. Seems obvious why they did this
I doubt you’ll see this but I’d love a review of the new Toulon first run putters! Can’t find a video of you reviewing any Toulon models and I’d love to hear your take on them
I'd say when comparing last years 7i to this year's, you have to look at the standard deviations on the data. In every case, the standard deviation was greater than the difference, so statistically, there's nothing in it.
I have no interest whatsoever in any TM irons. But, as a golf equipment nerd these videos are fun to watch and learn. But the release timing from TM is a head scratcher. Seems like the previous model may not have sold very well? But man golf clubs are so expensive now. Thx Rick, good review bud…
Friend has one and my other friend has the other. Feel similar. The takomos feel harder physically on the contact and are much chunkier. The TaylorMade are softer feeling and feel a little more consistent. Takomos sound better but the taylormade p770s are much better feeeling but takomos feel better than the p790s
@@rickjablonski9669 those also. Taylormade makes great clubs, but they are a marketing company. Quality in the drivers has gotten cheaper. I switched to a Titleist driver this year.
The last model was officially presented in 2022, preorders started in December 2022 and they hit retail stores in January 2023. So it’s way longer than just 1 year. You‘re quite good in making stuff up.
Lol. Forgetting that you’re wrong. Not sure why some rando would get all butthurt over a Mfg milking smooth brains out of money that makes no sense to spend.
770 embargo dropped in Nov 22 due to a delay in components and then released for sale in the first week of Jan 23. These aren’t released until September. Talking 3 months from a usual 2 year cycle here.
my opinion and assumption, taylormade realized the better players are playing p770's and redesigned them to appeal to the look those better players like. instead of a smaller sleaker p790. its a "p790 as a blade" anyone who didnt pick them up before because of shape or look, will surely buy them now.
It's hard to imagine that a company that started out selling a $79 wood made in the United States out of American steel, would now be the same company that pushes $2,000 sets of irons onto the public made in China that they probably pay about $100 for that set total. A company that was founded on an idea that was actually to make a more durable golf club which would ultimately be more economical than a persimmon wood with better performance. But now we have a company that simply only cares about keeping its prices as high as it possibly can. That's why it constantly releases new clubs because if they were to continue in the market with the same club there would be no justification for their extremely high ridiculous prices for their chinese-made product.
Rick do you ever think about selling some of the old irons you have. last years models are still unbelievalbe to guys like me that are using the old Speed Blades.
He’s technically right, the last P770 did launch in January of 2023. But this was only due to inventory concerns as it was supposed to launch in late 2022.
Audio was not synchronized during this video. voice audio in right ear, all other audio in left. Gonna need some hands up accountability on this one. - Bob
my right ear is loving this review
Thank you, freaked out thinking that my AirPods were broken
For real. Lol
I was starting to check out my speakers for a possible malfunction, and then I saw your post. Instant relief.
😂
Hahaha! The background music is in the left. Almost feels like a DJ mixing old school.
Yeah Rick, music in the left ear and voice in right ear. Just a heads up on the audio mix.
And a big red screen at about 1:35 instead of I assume footage of the P7CGs. There's been alot of editing errors lately
Glad to know this wasn't just me but damn this is hard to listen to
@@williamkshaw yea its a bit anoying ngl
$10,000 studio
$2 audio
I was fitted earlier this year for some p770s with stiff graphite shafts as an 18 handicapper going from off the shelf m2 irons. The difference is night and day and I've finished the summer season now playing off 13 (whs 11.3). Beautiful irons, that have completely transformed my game.
I feel like TM updated the P790 irons in 2023, but did not update the P770 at that time. The 2023 P770 was a carryover from the prior year.
Yes. Rick was wrong. The P790 was updated in 2023. The P770s are a two year change.
I was fitted for my 770's in Dec 22 and they were not released until Jan 23
My guess as to why they brought out a new set was to blend with the new CB. Tried blending the MC with the 770 and they just don’t match up. They worked on matching the lofts and flight to go with the new CB. I’m going for a fitting next month.
I think that’s spot on. Apex lineup, Mizuno 240’s, T100/150 etc. all great combo iron sets. TM had to step up
i think its because of the CB and the fact that a lot of pros have been using the new p770 for a while instead of the old one.
1:33 is missing a clip of the P7CB
I've seen these editing errors occasionally. A channel at this level really shouldn't be making these basic mistakes.
Redesigned based off the looks of the T100/150 perhaps? When I first saw these that was my initial thoughts. Ball felt good off the face and they sounded nice indoors but went with the Wilson Staff blades.
Exactly what I thought too, CP. And (almost) exactly what I did - put a blade/CB combo set in the bag. There's nothing better on the market than the Wilson's.
T100s are sweet
Keep it real my guy, don’t delete videos. Stand by your product. It wasn’t a good look, but it’s even worse that people have the receipts of the comment section and a worse look to delete it
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@@Golfing-AddiCt he deleted his Titleist fitting video on his HIT channel because everyone was voicing their displeasure of how he acted throughout the entire video.
What happened to the titleist GT fitting video?
Lol he got roasted to death on that video. It was bad. I had a feeling he'd remove the video.
P770 came out november 2022
January 2023.
@@knightriderkitt3000 We never release our irons in the winter, irons are fall releases. 790 got released in july 23', 770 along with the old MB and MC got released in july 22'
@@sucitilll Neat, they were then. 770/MB/MC we’re available for preorder in December of 2022 then available for sale at retail in January of 2023.
@@sucitilllNormally you are correct, but we came out with these late, with preorders starting in December of 2022.
The video has an error at 1.30 and the sound is all over the place.
However the grpagicsnon the Portrush video closed the gap on the Peter Finch editing.
It seems like all they tried to do for this model was dial in the spin more. The '23 model ran out a bit more on average than the new ones. So maybe since the 770's are profiled (generally) for better players, they wanted to offer that little extra control? Incredibly close but that seems to me what they are trying to achieve
Cool clubs did a good review of these vs CBs, the '24 770s spin a hair more and more in line with the CBs
Those are some good looking Kirklands
I thought these were expensive Takomo’s 🤔
@@riggz5496 Couldn't be, Rick would never put Takomo's on his channel.
Other way around, that’s why they’re being sued.
@@toddschlicher That's kinda the joke..
Taylor Made have said the new P.770's will spin a little more and be shorter than the previous model so that it can combo better with the new P7.CB as the lofts match on both .
I’m still playing my 2021 P770s. I still prefer the looks of those. And they still perform just as good as both of the new models. Completely not worth paying so much to “upgrade” to a newer model. Unless you have the money and want something new in the bag
still? I still play my R9 TPs from 2009 lol. 7 hcp
I’m still gaming the 2020 770’s and I love them, I won’t be replacing them until I absolutely have too. Love the look of these new ones tho.
Thanks for the review Rick. I literally just got the p770 the old model 2 months ago and now they just came out with a new ones😂. Anyway I haven't had a chance to try the newer version and don't think I would anyway this last year's model has been the most perfect irons I have ever hit all the way down to the 4 iron and I even picked up the approach wedge which I usually don't in a set but the approach wedge is so good I had to get it. Thanks for your honest review TaylorMade are awesome and killing it. By the way really love your HIT Channel.
We consumers need to hold on to our gear for 2 years and shut these astronomical prices down in their tracks.
more like 6. Doubtful these are different than the 2017/2019 version
I'm still using my mizuno 919 hot metal
I've had the 770s for a couple of years and love them. I'm not a big TM fan but these are a solid performing set of irons.
My Takomos cost me £600 from pw to 4 and the feel like if not better than the p790s or T200s … they look amazing and the distances are amazing
Which Takomo’s did you go for? I am tempted but can’t decide between 101 and 101T….
@@liam8892 I went with the 101T they say they don’t go as far as the 101 but I’m pretty happy with the distances honestly
I got fitted for P770's on June 27th. Picked them up at the pro shop July 22nd. Then got the email from Golf Galaxy a week later these new ones were being released. Not disappointed in my 2023 version irons as I'm only a combined 1 over par total over my last three rounds, but, I still would prefer to have the newest tech considering I paid full price for what I thought would be the newest version for at least another year.
Answer is that the P-Series irons that came out last year were supposed to come out at the end of 2022, but ended up being pushed back due to inventory issues to January of 2023.
Aren’t they P790 and P770 on opposite 2-year refresh cycles? P790 was 17, 19, 21, 23. P770 was 20, 22, 24.
The original P770s came out in 2017 alongside the P790s as well.
@@joshuagaughan2902 the hollow body version we know of today came out in 2020. Looking back, it looks like December 2022 they showed off the refreshed version. So 1.5 year since the last one?
You are correct. The previous 770 was supposed to launch in 2022 but inventory pushed that back to 2023.
The P-7CB caused quite a stir when it first showed up as a single lone 4 iron in several pga tour bags with PROTO stamped on it, a very positive reaction
and will be taylormade's hot seller, whether in full sets or 7-pw, maybe even 5-pw with different long irons/utility irons. Just how I see it based on the cb's looks alone And stellar performance. The new 770 here seems to have caused a mixed reaction at best just reading through the comments here, lol!
I think you should go for some Taylormade Irons, every one of these reviews you've hit them so well 👌🏻
So which ones would you pick between the P7CB and P770?
CB for me every day.
Love the video Rick. Seems crazy for a company to be putting out irons that are essentially identical as an iron they released a year ago. It's almost a slap in the face to the consumer. Thanks for calling it out.
A little constructive criticism though. I've noticed a trend on the new channel where the editing and mixing is just not the same standard as the main channel. I mean, a year ago, Rick shiels would not be releasing videos with missing links and distorted left/right audio.
I appreciate how much content you've been putting out on the new channel, but there needs to be better quality control going on.
The p770 was released over 2 years ago
I just got the old ones, all I want is to try these head to head myself. I think the better flow in the low irons may be worth it.
P790’s 2023 here and they’re amazing. Scotty Cameron putter dropped my number of putts by 7 also. I went from spider tour x to Scotty Newport 2 plus, huge improvement. Also, the high-toe wedge by TM wow!
Scotty Newport a brilliant putter
Hey Rick could you review some of the Maltby irons, they are pretty incredible for the price
Most other reviews showing new 770 is 4-5 yards shorter than the old 770 and can be interchangeable with P7 CB.
I appreciate your honesty 👍🏻
vocals are only coming out on the right. my advice is have someone who didn't do the editing give it a watch before publishing the video to catch any mistakes
And the P-7MC from 2023 is money too. I’ve never felt a softer/solid feel combined with modus 120X than these.
Where did the Titliest driver fitting video go? Went to watch but is now private?
He was being a total prick in the video and got rightly called out for it in the comments. He’s now deleted the video.
The phantom black P790's are some of the nicest looking clubs ever. If they could get the prices down even 20% it would be so much better
I love the yearly releases! Floods the market with low cost used options !
I bought the p770s 3 months ago and then this ones come out lol. Lucky for me i got mine at a discount price and only paid half. Was thinking of selling them and getting these, but thanks to your review ill juat keep the 2023s
Any chance of a Mizuno Pro review Rick? Looking at the 245 vs 225 (discounted). Any thoughts?
Where did the fitting video go?
It was a disaster. Rick was super rude to the fitter, super negative the whole time, and I’m assuming they took it down because it was a really bad look for Rick.
I play the 2020 versions and I love them. I went in for an iron fitting earlier this year just to get new shafts and the fitter at club champion said there was like no difference between mine and the 2023 model. a 2-3 year release is perfect, Titleist does it right.
@@lavin214 yes! Titleist does it right. So do Ping. Titleist balls and irons for me, and a Ping Driver.
Thanks for the review put my mind at rest got the 2023 model after Xmas was gutted to see the new model appear 🤷🏼♂️but got a good deal so even happier after your review 😅thanks
Great review. Something I havn'r seen reviewed in any chanel is wedge shafts. Steel vs Graphite, different flex etc.
Hypothetically if I wasn’t in the market last year but I am now and I want the latest and greatest, I’d now be looking at a different manufacturer potentially. I don’t think it’s a bad move by TM to refresh the 770’s in a little over a year.
I think the new ones are significantly better. They are thinner, bit imo they feel better. First time ever I could say I would game the iron. Combo with the cb
Last year's model look nicer 😅
I think 2021 looks best
FWIW last year’s model were my least favorite of the last three releases
Fire the editor. God damn where have the standards gone.
Love the music!
I'm on a ten year cycle with irons. Have a season and a half left on my Titleist 716 AP2's. And if the grooves are still decent, I'll get them reshafed and maybe crank the lofts a degree or two.
Audio mix is messed up
Please do some Takomo reviews! I love my 301 CB’s and want to know about the wedges and fairway metals! You’re the best!
Legitimately switching my headphones around, switched to another video, Rick just doing some Ricko things
Well done for calling it as it is, get last years clubs on a better deal. What every golfer needs to hear, not what any manufacturer would say.
The new ones do look slightly sexier though.
Another great review! Except the P770 is on a cycle with the MC/CB not the P790 it was an in cycle replacement. The previous P7770 was a 2022 release.
Would love to see Rob Potter on this channel do an honest review between these two sets of irons alongside Rick. 😂 iykyk.
Hey Rick! Thanks for yet another great review. Those irons look stunning.
Question for you - how come you don't review Srixon irons anymore (or have I just missed those reviews?)? I remember your review some years ago of the Srixon Z-series at the Grove. You seemed to love those irons back then. Just curious! 🙂
Interesting. Just a point, when looking at this type of date, you need to consider whether the differences are statistically significant.
Would love a set mate 💪🏼
Hey Rick, big fan of the channel here. Any chance we could get a takomo irons review??
Hey Rick, I love the iron review videos, could you do one on the king cobra forged tech irons head to head against the taylormades?
Why do you hit with a 1 m draw indoor simulator and with a 10 m draw/ hook outdoor ? Am I wrong ?
Really like your enthusiasm Ricky !
I know this will get lost in the sea but ive got the srizon zforged 2. Its the most forgiving blade ive ever hit and would love to see your thoughts on them
Apparently you are using that HIT studio often. Can see the wear pattern on the carpet where you stand and where you hit the ball.
Been waiting for someone to say this
Love this
Are you planning on reviewing the Callaway Apex Ai300 irons next?❤
Rick be mixing the audio like The Beatles stereo releases
The newer version spins more. Easier to blend with a set of their new CB irons. I actually can’t slag them off. If I went with a whole set of 770’s I would just get last year’s model. If I wanted to mix with the new CB I’m taking the updated version. Seems obvious why they did this
Definitely prefer these to the last model, new irons every year though 😅
Will you be reviewing the takomo irons? Would love your take on them, and love feed back on club reviews
Is there new p790s coming before I buy a set ?
Compare the p790 and p770
I doubt you’ll see this but I’d love a review of the new Toulon first run putters! Can’t find a video of you reviewing any Toulon models and I’d love to hear your take on them
Loving the stream song hat
man this sounds so good in my right ear
Rick, put the jumbo grips on to eliminate the pull
Can you review Hippo H120 Irons, very cheap clubs, wondering if they are worth getting for beginners
My right ear really enjoyed this review. 😆
Would love to see you test the new Srixon nc putters. Only available in the USA
They look exactly like T100’s from 2021
I'd say when comparing last years 7i to this year's, you have to look at the standard deviations on the data. In every case, the standard deviation was greater than the difference, so statistically, there's nothing in it.
I have no interest whatsoever in any TM irons. But, as a golf equipment nerd these videos are fun to watch and learn. But the release timing from TM is a head scratcher. Seems like the previous model may not have sold very well? But man golf clubs are so expensive now. Thx Rick, good review bud…
Spoiler: the 2020 model performs the same and looks better than both newer models
They look like Takomo 101Ts . $1200 for something you can get for 1/2 the price doesn’t seem like a good thing. Nice review.
Would be a great test
Friend has one and my other friend has the other. Feel similar. The takomos feel harder physically on the contact and are much chunkier. The TaylorMade are softer feeling and feel a little more consistent. Takomos sound better but the taylormade p770s are much better feeeling but takomos feel better than the p790s
Or better yet. The Maltby TS1-IM.
@@rickjablonski9669 those also. Taylormade makes great clubs, but they are a marketing company. Quality in the drivers has gotten cheaper. I switched to a Titleist driver this year.
I think they look great, surprised they went with those Lofting’s, but I wouldn’t entertain a set of irons at £1,200 that are out of date in a year
Mizuno 245s next, cmon Rick
Great stuff.
Can you do a comparison vid Vs Takomo 101T or similar for looks, feel, value for money, distance control etc
The last model was officially presented in 2022, preorders started in December 2022 and they hit retail stores in January 2023. So it’s way longer than just 1 year. You‘re quite good in making stuff up.
So one was released in 2023 and one in 2024 is what you’re saying. Isn’t that the same thing he said.
Lol. Forgetting that you’re wrong. Not sure why some rando would get all butthurt over a Mfg milking smooth brains out of money that makes no sense to spend.
770 embargo dropped in Nov 22 due to a delay in components and then released for sale in the first week of Jan 23.
These aren’t released until September. Talking 3 months from a usual 2 year cycle here.
left ear is vibing
my opinion and assumption, taylormade realized the better players are playing p770's and redesigned them to appeal to the look those better players like. instead of a smaller sleaker p790. its a "p790 as a blade" anyone who didnt pick them up before because of shape or look, will surely buy them now.
It's hard to imagine that a company that started out selling a $79 wood made in the United States out of American steel, would now be the same company that pushes $2,000 sets of irons onto the public made in China that they probably pay about $100 for that set total. A company that was founded on an idea that was actually to make a more durable golf club which would ultimately be more economical than a persimmon wood with better performance. But now we have a company that simply only cares about keeping its prices as high as it possibly can. That's why it constantly releases new clubs because if they were to continue in the market with the same club there would be no justification for their extremely high ridiculous prices for their chinese-made product.
You’re probably right. However add in a bit for r&d and a packet for marketing
The old ones came out sept 2022 not last year
When are you doing a review on Cobra Irons
Rick do you ever think about selling some of the old irons you have. last years models are still unbelievalbe to guys like me that are using the old Speed Blades.
Hi Rick. I would love to see a comparison video on the new P790 irons vs the old 2019 M5 irons. That would be a great comparison
You won’t get that that’s too
Specific.
@@Philmaxwell414 what do you mean?
@@kohlthompsonsmall he’s not going to compare 5 year old hack irons with these. 😂
TM would tell you 5 yards less roll out is a big win. Stopping power.
If they’re available from September or October isn’t it more like 2 years?
He’s technically right, the last P770 did launch in January of 2023. But this was only due to inventory concerns as it was supposed to launch in late 2022.
The backing track sounds like the justeat ad
Odd - YT on TV didn’t play voice only music???? User error or mixing error by the HIT team???
Audio was not synchronized during this video. voice audio in right ear, all other audio in left.
Gonna need some hands up accountability on this one. - Bob