The problem is that it was not a kingdom, but a duchy. If it was a kingdom by all chance it would have not fallen and formed a more or less united nation
@Caleb Silvergleid '21 certainly not by 1477. René II did claim the crown of Naples some years after but he renounced the claim since the king of France wanted it too. René I was indeed king of Naples, Sicily and Aragon but he was only duke consort of Lorraine until 1453 when his wife died. He had lost this title for over 20 years before the battle of Nancy.
It is also the regimental song of the 1er Régiment d'Infanterie, oldest regiment in activity in Europe as they were raised in 1479, the 1er RI directly descend from the Bande de Picardie and the original flag of 1479 still throne in the honor hall of the regiment staff building in Sarrebourg.
I’d like to dispute your claim. The oldest active regiment in Europe would be Sweden’s Svea Livgarde (the regiment the kings lifeguards are drawn from). They celebrated their 500th anneversiary last year!
@@joeljanssonhernstrom1819 No, the Livgarde have only existed since 1526, and have been disbanded several times over the centuries. The 1er RI have existed with continuous existence and service since 1479. Sorry.
It never did exist, it was a collection of like a dozen different principalities briefly owned by the same guy, and then his son. A Kingdom of the Burgundians did exist around the 5th century AD further to the south, though.
Je trouve ça regrettable mais l'histoire est faite ainsi, vous avez échappé aux standards de Paris et vous parlez toujours comme nos anciens, frères d'outre atlantique !
Fun Fact：In mainland China due to Chinese translation the event for death of Charles the Bold of Burgundy in Europa Universalis IV was translated to “Splited head” which become a meme in Chinese internet（Its such ahilarious name）and basically every history fans call him “splited head”
Imagine the public perception of your region turning from fancy shades of red and bloody excellent wine to funny nazism on steroids merely due to a single mod for an old game
@@vladimirtt8863 the whole point of burgundy in TNO is rooting out french culture, doubt they’d be singing a French song and using it as their national anthem
@@vladimirtt8863 HOLY FUCKING SHIT IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING TNO REFERENCE ???1?1?1?1?1??1?1?1?1?1 TNO IS THE BEST FUCKING MOD HIMMLER IS SUCH A GAMER TICK TOCK TICK TOCK CLOCK GOES BRRRRR
Well both english and French rolled r, but bourgeoisie and nobility changed their speaking way so when folk get massively educated in the 19th century, they learned To pronounce it like the elite to gain status etc
This is a song about men from Picardie in Northern France selling their services as mercenaries throughout Europe, especially to the Flemish (the Burgundians) in the neighbouring low countries. After winter and planting their crops, the men had nothing else to do until harvest, so they joined the "bandes de Picardie", (the Mercenary companies of Picardie) to make extra money. That is why the song warns the listener to make sure they know how to fight or else they will end up stripped naked and their corpse left in a field.
I love how it starts off with so much patriotic potential, then veers of topic as if the singer was improvising the lines as she was singing them, then kind of regains its footing talking about the Austrian threat, but loses it again only to end with a badass instrumental solo that triggered an instinctive urge to salute in me. Truly a roller coaster of emotions!
Burgundy had a brief and interesting existence. While the antics of Philip the Bold, John the Fearless, Philip the Good, and Charles the Bold, get most of the airtime. Mary of Burgundy, though she only lived until around 25, had a HUGE impact on the shape of Europe and world affiars, since it was from her and Maximilian, and there son Philip that gave rise to Charles V who ruled the first empire where the sun never set. Dozens of nations all over the world, in some way, owe their existence to Burgundy.
@Jacob Nevison He thought it was a fun thing to do. Also he learned this song during his military service and the French Army would sometimes wake-up to that song, or so he told me. I could never really tell if he was joking or not when he explained that to me.
@@g-manvic3958 it's something that can actually happen in the french army, especially in the 1st infantry regiment since it's a really old regiment wich directly descend from the "bandes de Picardie" and it's still today a traditional song of this regiment, so by extent, a traditional song of the french army
It's funny, as the region were I live (Lorraine) is, with the swiss, those who destroyed the Burdundian army, which means that France had reclaim the lands with ease
@just an autistic shitposter Republicain France holds its legitimacy not on medieval rights but nationalism, who the duke of where is meaningless, the modern french state doesn't claim a territorial inheritance from those.
@just an autistic shitposter me has a bourguignons (idk how to spell it in english) well... that's funny to see both of you talk about my land ^^ weird to think burgundy could have become once again a kingdom, but not in the same direction than the first one
@just an autistic shitposter France had full right on the Duchy of Burgundy because it was a apanage : an land given to a royal prince for him and his heirs if they are in the french line of succession. Women can’t inherit an apanage, and, when there isn’t heir, the land return on the direct control of the king.
@@israelferreruela1173 In EU4 when playing as Burgundy you get an event based on the Burgundian successions crisis. There are three options, none of which are entirely good: One gives you a chance for a personal union with France which allows to you inherit land (Brabant, Holland, etc), there is a decision like that which does the same thing but with Austria. Austria in my opinion is the best choice because you can easily end the personal union. But as you own land in the HRE and Austria has allies the Emperor (Usually Austria) may declare a "restore union" war on you, and with their allies and you having non because they were all absorbed makes it kinda stressful. There is also one where you get no land, no personal union, but remain independent, it's based on what actually happened, but France or Austria may invade you if you do that.
D'Espagne la croix de Bourgogne m'a amené ici. Les paroles sont évocatrices et la musique et le rythme des tambours font vibrer le cœur. Belle version. Mercy.
@@DarkrarLetsPlay The Burgundians or Picards were basically "French" (if we play on anachronisms), but simply did not want to pay homage to the Valois King.
Burgundy could become a very interesting state between the French and German worlds, a mix of Flemish, Dutch, French and German cultures. Unfortunately he aspired too much. He challenged the French colossus, led by an iron king like Louis XI, who had emerged victorious from the Hundred Years War after repeatedly losing to the British for decades and running the risk of becoming an English colony. Yet France recovered and against all expectations won and got up stronger than before. The Burgundians should have placed themselves under the Holy Roman Empire, becoming a second Bohemia. For example, they would have done what the Savoy family did. They were in fact for some time under France, but in the 16th century Emanuele Filiberto I, who fought for the empire and defeated the French at San Quitino, realized that sooner or later Savoy would end Burgundy and Brittany. So he moved the capital to Turin, definitively bringing the Savoy to Italy and moving the expansionist objectives towards the peninsula. As history has shown, this strategy has paid off, allowing the House of Savoy to carve out its own space in European politics and reach its apogee with the unification of Italy. If it had not been so probably in 700 instead of becoming king of Piedmont and Sardinia, the Savoy family would have become some of that myriad of nobles who kissed the shoes of the Bourbons at Versailles.
@@antoinemozart243 yes I know. But it was Louis XI who fought the rebel feudal lords. however, he followed the path followed by his father since all these fiefdoms, together with those first reconquered against the English, were annexed to the royal state property
Burgundy was the key to English success and their betrayal of the alliance with England eventually left them at the mercy of the much stronger French. England was way too poor and weak to conquer France, only extreme French incompetence on the battlefield and the Burgundian alliance gave them a flukey 15 year period of dominance. Burgundy got what it deserved for choosing France over England in 1435.
Except that it was not the King of France who defeated Burgundy but the Lorraine and the Swiss at the Battle of Nancy following a bellicose policy by Charles le temeraire.
It was just a Duchy that tried to benefit from a civil war to become de facto independent and annex other territories of the kingdom it was De Jure part of, but later on got it's dream crushed when it tried to over expand and got defeated in battle whilst it's titular kingdom ended it's hundred year civil war whilst it at the same time suffered from a severe inheritance crisis. It was not a State by any means, it was mostly something that existed purely by chance and whose prolonged existence would have depended on SO many things going right that it probably wouldn't have lived long regardless
@@sephikong8323 This story happened so many times in history, like with Ukraine, Austria, Portugal, e.t.c. Relatively small state with culturally similar bigger neighbour with shared history. I mean, can't say for sure that burgundian "prolonged existence would have depended on SO many things going right that it probably wouldn't have lived long regardless", since it happened like trillion times in history.
@@thayff2401 The thing is ......... Burgundy had way more going against it than those countries in question for several reasons (and Ukraine isn't a very good example as it ......... collapsed extremely quickly after it's first installment in 1917 and it's still way too early to talk about modern Ukraine as it's not even 30 years old) Portugal had a very advantageous position that was very easy to defend and even had a reliable ally in England whereas it's only neighbor, Spain had way more to deal with and in fact, during the Portuguese independence war to break free from the personal union, they went to war numerous times on other fronts against the Dutch and French which divided their forces. Portugal also had the advantage of a very cohesive territory and a unified population and a shared identity. Austria was also at it's core a culturally homogeneous region with very defensible borders but that also happened to have a huge advantage : their continued hold on the imperial throne which granted them a vastly increased power projection, coupled with the vast network the Habsurb family had built (notably because of the prestige granted by the imperial throne) and the various throne they managed to grab thanks to that. Burgundy on the other hand had : terrible defensive geography, being almost completely made up of plains with potential enemies on both sides, they were at the crossroads of two distinct polities (France and the HRE) which both had legal claims over half their domain (and the parts that one didn't have legal revendications on, the other one had them) meaning that they had clear incentives to go after them. Couple that with the fact that Burgundy was a simple duchy with low prestige and a limited amount of legitimacy in the eyes of the powerful, a dynasty that was not very well established and even if they survived all of this, they still were made up of several people (French, Germans and Dutch) that all had different interest and were they to survive for centuries, the dawn of nationalism would have doomed their nation almost as hard as it doomed the Austrian empire. For Burgundy to be a successful State to survive through the ages it would have had to endure all of these tough challenges and more, and there were even variables not taken into consideration (like England, the Protestant reformation, the rise of the Dutch merchant class etc)
The cross of Burgundy (0:03) was the official flag of the duchy of Burgundy in the late 1400s. It then became the official flag of Spain in the time of the Austrias, and still lives on (minus the nodes) ine the flags of Florida and Alabama. Its history in Spain is controversial and some fifteen years ago some people wanted it to be outlawed by the EU parliament.
I actually want someone to give this a more modern take, because this version is already great, but imagine the instrumental near the end with the beating of LARGER drums and HORNS?
@@DarkrarLetsPlay I don't know if you already know this but here's one of the most interesting part of the history of the dukes of Burgundy : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabochien_revolt
Charles V fought for that for his whole life he was even willing to give Milan for Burgundy his ancestral land. It is so interesting that Habsburgs after Frederick III were pretty much a mix of Trastamara, Valois-Burgundy, and Habsburg. Their coat of arms became a norm since the Charles V
@@jerrell1169 agreed i guess. besides, unrealistic alternate histories are usually based on mainstream ww2 knowledge so just a casual man in the high castle but more “realistic” in geographical terms, so it attracts people
@@asianlifter it has a weird boner for hating on anybody right of AuthDem, which I mean in some instances is justified like Himmler or Taboritsky, but like cases like Speer or some of the Russian leaders, I feel like a human light could be portrayed. Not only that, but there’s millions of different shades of Ideology yet Socialism is split between Libertarian Socialism, and Authoritarian Socialism
I love how the Knight and Lady at the right corner look. -"Honey, I'm slipping..." -"You asked to come along, so you're coming along. Stop complaining..."
The Spanish empire had nothing to do with THIS Burgundy. The Habsburgs inherited Burgundy through marriage, and adopted the Burgundian cross as their symbol. Later, when the same Burgundian Habsburgs became kings of Spain, the Spanish army adopted it as their ensign.
It expired in 1477, when you killed Charles the bold of Burgundy. The song is about how his son-in-law, that duke of Austria who is in the Netherlands, should retake Burgundy and kick out the french king from those hills.
Je suis de Picardie né à Soissons et j'ai fait mon Armée au 1er RI le plus vieux régiment de France créé en 1479....'' On ne relève pas Picardie ''⚜🙏⚜🙏
This is still today the regimental song of the French Army's 1st Infantry Regiment, which traces its lineage back to units in the service of Burgundy in the XVth century.
Well: - the "r roulé"" (apical) but it can also be found even in the modern French baroque music interpretations, - "avoir "pronounced as "avwer"" (not ""avwar"), really appreciated... It makes a difference, e.g. in most performances of Tourdion "Ambois" doesn't rhyme 'cause it's pronounced in the modern way... :( - the s before t in bastons etc. may be an error i.e. it was probably pronounced as an aspiration (ba(h)tons) , then a long "a", the modern normative pronunciation is a kind of posterior "a". I never digged int the Burgundy dialects, I may be wrong. - strict "liaison"- Well done...
A song from the era when the peasantry were first starting to be liberated and the first stirrings of what would become nationalism were taking shape. Yet also a song remembering a nation that died young at the hands of Louis XI, the first modern king of a re-emerging France.
I listened to this last night to help me finish a 10 hour walk. My entire body ached with every step but when I put this on in the last hour it gave me the strength to finish.
When you play Burgundians in AOE II Lords of the West and charge with 20 coustilliers, 20 paladins, 40 flemish militia and a handful of bombard cannons & hand canoneers
Le duc Felipe a épousé Juana, reine de Castille, et nous a donné à nous les Espagnols l'honneur de garder leurs symboles : la Croix de Bourgogne et la Toison d'Or. Avec ce drapeau nous avons conquis le monde, de Nutca à Valdivia, de Tunis à Ostende, de Manille à Acapulco. Salutations aux Français et aux Belges.
Sadly burgundy disappeared long ago but would have been cool if she would have continue existing I mean being burgundian in my head seems like a giga chad move
@@kashubian_linguist well played you find the french language and hus accent, there is only 2 régions with a différent language bretagne and le pays basque
@@kashubian_linguist burgundy is a region from the burgondes during the roman empire so its just an accent, so for you i dont speak french but picard ? Its just an accent with few words
The part where the horns and drums come in is so good. Full medieval feeling. And having the map fade out to the backdrop of the soldiers on horseback charging is so immersive, I feel like I'm standing on the edge of the road as they thunder past. Makes you wish for more "authentic" medieval shows going into the lesser known countries and fights for sovereignty..
I love how when the Burgundian Kingdom fell it was in an entirely different lands from the ones where they raised their kingdom.
The problem is that it was not a kingdom, but a duchy. If it was a kingdom by all chance it would have not fallen and formed a more or less united nation
@@egbertpopken5580 *duchy
@@chuofearth9672 good job bro
Well, neither France (Salia) nor England (Angloland), nor Germany (Prussia) are in places they started.
@@MaitreKorda Prussia was formed by the union of the duchy of Prussia and Branderburg. So it's in the place were it started
The cross of Burgundy is, to this day, one of the most badass flags to ever exist
c'est la croix de St André l'ami
@@heldkimbly627 Cross of St. Andrew is a general term for flags with two diagonal lines
Yep. It’s the cross of burgundy. Later adopted by the Habsbourg for the Spanish empire.
Glad to have that cross waving in my house, very badass flag for very proud burgundian indeed.
Forgot to add a disclaimer of could be confused with Habsburg Spain
The virgin TNO Burgundy vs the CHAD EU4 Burgundy
vs the burgundy thats gonna form in 38 years
Vs the shit burgundy from aoe2
The Thad Extremis Ultimis Quebecois Burgundy
Cringe
Virgin TNO Burgundy vs Chad Divergence of darkness burgundy
Well, anything that isn't "haha yes funni gamer nation" is gold at this point
True
haha yes funni gamer nation
rolol
Haha yes funni gamer nation, *EU4*
@@lucaslevinsky8802funny free development
"This is not epic enough."
1:42
"Oh."
stfu N V M E R I V S
Not if you understand French that ear rape at 1:42 is so bad
Thx for the replay button mate
@N V M E R I V S u cringe
@N V M E R I V S get in;)
"Hey Duke Charles, I have a joke"
"I'm listening, Duke René"
"Nancy"
"I don't get it..."
"You never will"
@Caleb Silvergleid '21 certainly not by 1477. René II did claim the crown of Naples some years after but he renounced the claim since the king of France wanted it too.
René I was indeed king of Naples, Sicily and Aragon but he was only duke consort of Lorraine until 1453 when his wife died. He had lost this title for over 20 years before the battle of Nancy.
Charles was....a little too *bold* for a man with no male heirs
Underrated comment.
@De Mosellan vum Eck dreem weider
Nanzig
It is also the regimental song of the 1er Régiment d'Infanterie, oldest regiment in activity in Europe as they were raised in 1479, the 1er RI directly descend from the Bande de Picardie and the original flag of 1479 still throne in the honor hall of the regiment staff building in Sarrebourg.
On ne défait pas Picardie !
When the French started invading Germany bit by bit
I’d like to dispute your claim. The oldest active regiment in Europe would be Sweden’s Svea Livgarde (the regiment the kings lifeguards are drawn from). They celebrated their 500th anneversiary last year!
@@joeljanssonhernstrom1819 No, the Livgarde have only existed since 1526, and have been disbanded several times over the centuries. The 1er RI have existed with continuous existence and service since 1479. Sorry.
@@Reichsritter 🙄
A country that hasn't existed for 500 years has no business having such a fire song
First of all, don’t be rude to us. 👀
We will rise again one day !
@@julielemartrier4602 Considering it's currently split between 4 or 5 countries, I doubt it...
Burgundy, like Ukraine, had a hard life, but will come back. Every age, the idea is brought back from the ashes...
@@ZoomReverseFlash That's not how it works
It never did exist, it was a collection of like a dozen different principalities briefly owned by the same guy, and then his son. A Kingdom of the Burgundians did exist around the 5th century AD further to the south, though.
As a Québécois, I do appreciate those "oé" sounds we still use today. Gloére (Gloire: Glory), Avoére (Avoir: To have)
Je trouve ça regrettable mais l'histoire est faite ainsi, vous avez échappé aux standards de Paris et vous parlez toujours comme nos anciens, frères d'outre atlantique !
Le wallon ressemble encore très fort à ca.
Tu as "checké" ça le canadien mc do?
@@turenne714 ruclips.net/user/shorts5vu6PeMcTMA?feature=share
Ah, so you are Canadian.
It's official: Burgundy makes better anthems than lullabies.
Burgundian Lullaby is much better than this (but that's based on the German Teufelslied so you're still right I guess)
@@theodiscusgaming3909 You have very weird taste in music
@@theodiscusgaming3909 you ok?
@@AlternateTimelord yes why
It is actuall Bruhgundian lullaby .
Fun Fact：In mainland China due to Chinese translation the event for death of Charles the Bold of Burgundy in Europa Universalis IV was translated to “Splited head” which become a meme in Chinese internet（Its such ahilarious name）and basically every history fans call him “splited head”
Very funny fact indeed
I mean it is what happened to Charles the Bold IRL
Being bold comes with it's risks
Wait, you can play EU4 in PRC?
@@Cruelsetof course
As a burgundian, I am starting to really hate the TNO fanbase
As a TNO fan I am really starting to hate the TNO fanbase for swarming to places that dont relate to the mod.
@@moskaumaster1594 yes they are everywhere just making references, I used to play this gamemode just to play my homeland
Understandable
"Black sun 😳😳😳😳😳😐🥺😋😋🤨🙄🤨😋😬😋🤨🙄😒😋😡🙄🤨🙄😬☹️🤬🤬☹️😐😐😐😐🤨😐😡😐😡☹️😒☹️😡😐🤨😐🤪😐☹️😬☹️😬😐🤪🤨😐😐😡"
- TNO Players
Imagine the public perception of your region turning from fancy shades of red and bloody excellent wine to funny nazism on steroids merely due to a single mod for an old game
When you play Burgundy in EU4
When you plays Burgundia in HOI4 tno) This is better.
@@vladimirtt8863virgin kingdom of burgundy (ewwww) vs CHAD BURGUNDIAN ORDENSTAAT (based!!!!)
@@vladimirtt8863 the whole point of burgundy in TNO is rooting out french culture, doubt they’d be singing a French song and using it as their national anthem
@@vladimirtt8863 HOLY FUCKING SHIT IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING TNO REFERENCE ???1?1?1?1?1??1?1?1?1?1 TNO IS THE BEST FUCKING MOD HIMMLER IS SUCH A GAMER TICK TOCK TICK TOCK CLOCK GOES BRRRRR
@@the_beast183 destroying French culture is a tool, not a point
the age when the French pronounced "r" correctly.
The pronounciaton of r actually varies greatly between the french regions to this day, and in the past even more so, therefore your comment is wrong.
@@11Survivor ACKCHYUALLY...
@Tammy XoX for centuries, the English r was trilled too, so, you are talking bullshit.
@@maximilianolimamoreira5002 He was just making a joke
Well both english and French rolled r, but bourgeoisie and nobility changed their speaking way so when folk get massively educated in the 19th century, they learned To pronounce it like the elite to gain status etc
This is a song about men from Picardie in Northern France selling their services as mercenaries throughout Europe, especially to the Flemish (the Burgundians) in the neighbouring low countries. After winter and planting their crops, the men had nothing else to do until harvest, so they joined the "bandes de Picardie", (the Mercenary companies of Picardie) to make extra money. That is why the song warns the listener to make sure they know how to fight or else they will end up stripped naked and their corpse left in a field.
Thank you for the context :D
Except that Picardie and northern France where part of the Burgundian "state"
Pickarden
I love how it starts off with so much patriotic potential, then veers of topic as if the singer was improvising the lines as she was singing them, then kind of regains its footing talking about the Austrian threat, but loses it again only to end with a badass instrumental solo that triggered an instinctive urge to salute in me. Truly a roller coaster of emotions!
It is not talking about the Austrians as a threat, but as a salvation from the French occupation.
"are we German or are we French??? maybe neither? blurblurblur~"
Who sings this?
I agree the Burgundians are confusing af. They are like Germans and French at the same time@@therearenoshortcuts9868
@@BlazingFlame69they are only confusing to our modern homogenised eyes
Burgundy had a brief and interesting existence. While the antics of Philip the Bold, John the Fearless, Philip the Good, and Charles the Bold, get most of the airtime. Mary of Burgundy, though she only lived until around 25, had a HUGE impact on the shape of Europe and world affiars, since it was from her and Maximilian, and there son Philip that gave rise to Charles V who ruled the first empire where the sun never set. Dozens of nations all over the world, in some way, owe their existence to Burgundy.
Me after I went to Burgundy and realizes Burgundy isn't a hellhole with a delusional madman wanting to destroy the world with nuclear weapons
Me realizing there isn't a single gamer camp in sight and that the sun isn't black in Burgundy
Probably has at least one
My dad would sing this to me to wake me up to go to school. He would shout it from downstairs and wake up the whole house.
@Jacob Nevison He thought it was a fun thing to do. Also he learned this song during his military service and the French Army would sometimes wake-up to that song, or so he told me. I could never really tell if he was joking or not when he explained that to me.
@@g-manvic3958 it's something that can actually happen in the french army, especially in the 1st infantry regiment since it's a really old regiment wich directly descend from the "bandes de Picardie" and it's still today a traditional song of this regiment, so by extent, a traditional song of the french army
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That must have been terrifying xD
Are you a picard?
As a Fleming I'm not certain what to think about being forced to pay for a Picard's drink...
Grâve, mais pour sûre ces picards ne me mettront jamais de coups de Bastons. 🦁
You are going to pay.
You *are.*
Frankly, that's the most funny part.
I love how these medieval songs are half military march, half drinking song
@@gwest3644 Well, what else was there to a soldier's life back then, than fighting and drinking?
This is great stuff Ingen, keep up the good work Sir!
Better than the *OTHER* Burgundy
_Gamer Moment_
Lies, time to go to the Non-Gamer Camp.
)
*laughs in SS*
Pff Himmler Burgundy was based
It's funny, as the region were I live (Lorraine) is, with the swiss, those who destroyed the Burdundian army, which means that France had reclaim the lands with ease
Vive la Lorraine :) 55 gang
@just an autistic shitposter Republicain France holds its legitimacy not on medieval rights but nationalism, who the duke of where is meaningless, the modern french state doesn't claim a territorial inheritance from those.
@just an autistic shitposter me has a bourguignons (idk how to spell it in english) well... that's funny to see both of you talk about my land ^^ weird to think burgundy could have become once again a kingdom, but not in the same direction than the first one
@just an autistic shitposter a inhabitant of burgundy, France
@just an autistic shitposter France had full right on the Duchy of Burgundy because it was a apanage : an land given to a royal prince for him and his heirs if they are in the french line of succession. Women can’t inherit an apanage, and, when there isn’t heir, the land return on the direct control of the king.
I love the pronunciation of "guerre" and other words in this song.
Me and the boys when Burgundian Succession Crisis doesn't trigger:
I played Burgundy in EU4, this is so god d*mn true
What Crisis????
@@israelferreruela1173 In EU4 when playing as Burgundy you get an event based on the Burgundian successions crisis. There are three options, none of which are entirely good:
One gives you a chance for a personal union with France which allows to you inherit land (Brabant, Holland, etc), there is a decision like that which does the same thing but with Austria. Austria in my opinion is the best choice because you can easily end the personal union. But as you own land in the HRE and Austria has allies the Emperor (Usually Austria) may declare a "restore union" war on you, and with their allies and you having non because they were all absorbed makes it kinda stressful.
There is also one where you get no land, no personal union, but remain independent, it's based on what actually happened, but France or Austria may invade you if you do that.
D'Espagne la croix de Bourgogne m'a amené ici. Les paroles sont évocatrices et la musique et le rythme des tambours font vibrer le cœur. Belle version. Mercy.
Mais oui tu connais Cluny comme tout le monde!🤣
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Belle maitrise du français pour un espagnol !
@@lambertlambert7076 Merci monsieur pour votre aimable commentaire.
@@atunaco De nada senor.
Incredible, absolutely fuckin phenomenal, one of the most inspiring songs you uploaded
The fucking song feels like riding a horse and defending against austrians, fucking explicit
@@shinglemcdingle4093
Defending AGAINST Austrians? Burgundy and Austria were on ONE side against France.
@@DarkrarLetsPlay The Burgundians or Picards were basically "French" (if we play on anachronisms), but simply did not want to pay homage to the Valois King.
@@tibsky1396
They certainly had no strong French identity. Although their culture was heavily influenced by French culture.
Burgundy could become a very interesting state between the French and German worlds, a mix of Flemish, Dutch, French and German cultures. Unfortunately he aspired too much. He challenged the French colossus, led by an iron king like Louis XI, who had emerged victorious from the Hundred Years War after repeatedly losing to the British for decades and running the risk of becoming an English colony. Yet France recovered and against all expectations won and got up stronger than before. The Burgundians should have placed themselves under the Holy Roman Empire, becoming a second Bohemia.
For example, they would have done what the Savoy family did. They were in fact for some time under France, but in the 16th century Emanuele Filiberto I, who fought for the empire and defeated the French at San Quitino, realized that sooner or later Savoy would end Burgundy and Brittany. So he moved the capital to Turin, definitively bringing the Savoy to Italy and moving the expansionist objectives towards the peninsula. As history has shown, this strategy has paid off, allowing the House of Savoy to carve out its own space in European politics and reach its apogee with the unification of Italy. If it had not been so probably in 700 instead of becoming king of Piedmont and Sardinia, the Savoy family would have become some of that myriad of nobles who kissed the shoes of the Bourbons at Versailles.
Charles VII got rid of the english long before Louis XI became king !
@@antoinemozart243 yes I know. But it was Louis XI who fought the rebel feudal lords. however, he followed the path followed by his father since all these fiefdoms, together with those first reconquered against the English, were annexed to the royal state property
@@micheleori1644 good ! The main goal of Louis XI was to destroy the Burgundians and their lapdogs the english !
Burgundy was the key to English success and their betrayal of the alliance with England eventually left them at the mercy of the much stronger French. England was way too poor and weak to conquer France, only extreme French incompetence on the battlefield and the Burgundian alliance gave them a flukey 15 year period of dominance. Burgundy got what it deserved for choosing France over England in 1435.
Except that it was not the King of France who defeated Burgundy but the Lorraine and the Swiss at the Battle of Nancy following a bellicose policy by Charles le temeraire.
Now i feel patriotic for long gone and assimilated country
It was just a Duchy that tried to benefit from a civil war to become de facto independent and annex other territories of the kingdom it was De Jure part of, but later on got it's dream crushed when it tried to over expand and got defeated in battle whilst it's titular kingdom ended it's hundred year civil war whilst it at the same time suffered from a severe inheritance crisis. It was not a State by any means, it was mostly something that existed purely by chance and whose prolonged existence would have depended on SO many things going right that it probably wouldn't have lived long regardless
@@sephikong8323 This story happened so many times in history, like with Ukraine, Austria, Portugal, e.t.c. Relatively small state with culturally similar bigger neighbour with shared history. I mean, can't say for sure that burgundian "prolonged existence would have depended on SO many things going right that it probably wouldn't have lived long regardless", since it happened like trillion times in history.
@@thayff2401 The thing is ......... Burgundy had way more going against it than those countries in question for several reasons (and Ukraine isn't a very good example as it ......... collapsed extremely quickly after it's first installment in 1917 and it's still way too early to talk about modern Ukraine as it's not even 30 years old)
Portugal had a very advantageous position that was very easy to defend and even had a reliable ally in England whereas it's only neighbor, Spain had way more to deal with and in fact, during the Portuguese independence war to break free from the personal union, they went to war numerous times on other fronts against the Dutch and French which divided their forces. Portugal also had the advantage of a very cohesive territory and a unified population and a shared identity. Austria was also at it's core a culturally homogeneous region with very defensible borders but that also happened to have a huge advantage : their continued hold on the imperial throne which granted them a vastly increased power projection, coupled with the vast network the Habsurb family had built (notably because of the prestige granted by the imperial throne) and the various throne they managed to grab thanks to that.
Burgundy on the other hand had : terrible defensive geography, being almost completely made up of plains with potential enemies on both sides, they were at the crossroads of two distinct polities (France and the HRE) which both had legal claims over half their domain (and the parts that one didn't have legal revendications on, the other one had them) meaning that they had clear incentives to go after them. Couple that with the fact that Burgundy was a simple duchy with low prestige and a limited amount of legitimacy in the eyes of the powerful, a dynasty that was not very well established and even if they survived all of this, they still were made up of several people (French, Germans and Dutch) that all had different interest and were they to survive for centuries, the dawn of nationalism would have doomed their nation almost as hard as it doomed the Austrian empire. For Burgundy to be a successful State to survive through the ages it would have had to endure all of these tough challenges and more, and there were even variables not taken into consideration (like England, the Protestant reformation, the rise of the Dutch merchant class etc)
@@sephikong8323 about that ukraine thing
@@KostasK7117 what about it
It really is such a beautiful song.
i love how every burgundian song brings up wine at some point
The cross of Burgundy (0:03) was the official flag of the duchy of Burgundy in the late 1400s. It then became the official flag of Spain in the time of the Austrias, and still lives on (minus the nodes) ine the flags of Florida and Alabama. Its history in Spain is controversial and some fifteen years ago some people wanted it to be outlawed by the EU parliament.
Ce drapeau a aussi été utilisé par Leon Dregrelle, hélas
This flag was also used by Leon Dregrelle.
@@epinoke4168 Bien sûr, ce type Degrelle a apparemment couru en Espagne après la seconde guerre mondiale. J'ai dit que c'était controversé en Espagne.
Wasn't it just military ensign? Accroding to internet,it was a war flag whilst actual flag was some Pfaltz-styled bullshit. I could be wrong though.
At that time Castile he go join too cataluoa and He See burgundy to new flag of spain.
It were not spme "people", it were leftist. Leftists are not humans. Better dead than red
Muchas gracias por darnos a los españoles esa hermosa bandera que ondeámos por medio mundo
¿De verdad les dieron a uds. esa bandera?
@@Shrey_Shrek Así es, desde que Felipe el hermoso se casó con Juana I de Castilla
@@mactrauma5323 Ya veo, gracias
@@endikaeche4359 Sí
Love the historic anthems thanks
Everyone: “Oh, LiKe tHe BuRgUnDi tNo LuLaBi HæHæhæ!”
Me: “I can’t believe some people in France made a song for a shade of purple...”
Well it wouldn't be the first time a color was named after a country.
Prussian blue exists and on many language call teal "Turkish blue."
Reminds me of Orange Free State
@@meneither3834 turquoise also exists in english language LOL
@@markusoliverasagtg9704 I didn't even know, thanks for the info.
@@lukamarkotic LOL
Je suis bourguignon, je découvre ça avec vous. Vive la Bourgogne et vive la France
At the end of the song, let's be honest, who doesn't feel the urge to march to war?
Play the ending on 1.5x speed, it sounds legendary
I actually want someone to give this a more modern take, because this version is already great, but imagine the instrumental near the end with the beating of LARGER drums and HORNS?
ruclips.net/user/shorts5vu6PeMcTMA?feature=share
Frick a modern brass instrument: use the Gaulish carnyx and/or an organ. Those things will strike fear into you like nothing else.
Everyone in the comments: Making references to TNO's Burgundy.
TNO is the JoJo of the HOI at this point.
Burgundian Burgundian System 😳
Sad
Nobody’s mentioning my boy Manchukuo
@@sergeantmajorgross4461 gay fake Qing Emperor, there I mentioned Manchukuo u happy now?
Well, I found finally my song while playing Burgondy on EU4 !
As long it’s not one from TNO.
C’est la plus belle interprétation…
I have watched this countless times already. Why am I, a person who has no relation with burgundy whatsoever, so hooked up on a song like this?
I feel the same. I've never been to Burgundy but I already love it. There history is very interesting.
@@DarkrarLetsPlay I don't know if you already know this but here's one of the most interesting part of the history of the dukes of Burgundy :
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabochien_revolt
@@leoleboss9414
Thanks, I will read it.
I did know something’s about the Dutch of Burgundy before I came to this song, but I mainly came here because of… well… the OTHER Burgundy.😑
When you have “good” Burgundy at home
I have a bunker in my *c o u n t r y*
S T R E N G G E H E I M
Glad to live in good Burgundy.
@@clydrexezekielalzate9707 I have a country in my bunker
Charles V fought for that for his whole life he was even willing to give Milan for Burgundy his ancestral land.
It is so interesting that Habsburgs after Frederick III were pretty much a mix of Trastamara, Valois-Burgundy, and Habsburg. Their coat of arms became a norm since the Charles V
Burgundy has never been austrian. It is only the low countries part of the old duchy.
@@antoinemozart243 I never said it was Austrians. It was dynastical ambition of the Habsburgs later spanish Bourbons
For the anthem of Burgundy, it’s a bang.
WHY IS TNO EVERYWHERE AAAAHHHHH!!!
its a cool mod but its overrated
@@asianlifter That’s how it tends to be, people put things made by their own fandom upon a pedestal.
@@jerrell1169 agreed i guess. besides, unrealistic alternate histories are usually based on mainstream ww2 knowledge so just a casual man in the high castle but more “realistic” in geographical terms, so it attracts people
@@asianlifter it has a weird boner for hating on anybody right of AuthDem, which I mean in some instances is justified like Himmler or Taboritsky, but like cases like Speer or some of the Russian leaders, I feel like a human light could be portrayed. Not only that, but there’s millions of different shades of Ideology yet Socialism is split between Libertarian Socialism, and Authoritarian Socialism
@@tappaiden thats very big brain of you
When you rush with Chevaliers in Castle Age.
I love how the Knight and Lady at the right corner look.
-"Honey, I'm slipping..."
-"You asked to come along, so you're coming along. Stop complaining..."
Merci pour ce chant. J'adore fouiller dans les tréfonds de youtube pour trouver des perles de chants traditionnels.
0:00 "well this song is good but that's it"
1:42 *the pencil i was holding becomes a pike*
From the fields of Burgundy to the mountains of Mesoamerica and the Andes to the Philippines, the Cross of Burgundy flew.
As a Filipino, I'm proud to be Burgundian!
@@kaiserredgamer8943which burgundy 😱
500 years later: *funni man with nukes*
Yeah😉! Can strike everywhere on planet earth!🙂
Me: Mom, can we get Spanish Empire?
Mom: We already have Spanish Empire at home
Spanish Empire at home:
The Spanish empire had nothing to do with THIS Burgundy. The Habsburgs inherited Burgundy through marriage, and adopted the Burgundian cross as their symbol. Later, when the same Burgundian Habsburgs became kings of Spain, the Spanish army adopted it as their ensign.
@@kukenkarlsson3607 He is just talking about the flag. Nothing else.
@@joundii3100 He implied that Burgundy was Spanish, which is wasn't
@@kukenkarlsson3607 I don't think so
of course this smartass just had to ruin it
Switzerland : My neutrality terms has expired !
It expired in 1477, when you killed Charles the bold of Burgundy. The song is about how his son-in-law, that duke of Austria who is in the Netherlands, should retake Burgundy and kick out the french king from those hills.
@@ThomasL58 Yeah, but the picture in the thumpnail is an 19th century interpretation of charles flight after the battle of murten.
Non tu es neutre mon pote! Déjà parle français ou allemand ou italien, mais je ne te sent pas chez toi ici.
0:56 Remember when Austria had just a regular Duke and not an Archduke or an Emperor? Bourgogne remembers.
Ackhually, at the time of event's mentioned in the song, Austria already had an Archduke
très belle interprétation de ce chant de ma région et pourtant peux connue par chez nous !!!
Earrape was invented in 2005
People before 2005: 1:42
Why would you say that's an earrape? It's f*cking epic, that's what it is...
SCOTLAND FOREVER
Merci. Je la chantais il y a 50 ans, mais je ne l'avais pas entendue depuis.
Proud to be a Burgund living in Picardy !
Heinrich Himmler: *Good. Now get in the bunker.*
Are you a gamer?
**Burgundy from Divergences of Darkness intensifies**
on one hand this isn't a TNO reference, on the other it's still a paradox reference
When you dissolve Burgundy in the ww1 as Germany
@@Poffean Though at least somewhat related to the song.
Je suis de Picardie né à Soissons et j'ai fait mon Armée au 1er RI le plus vieux régiment de France créé en 1479....'' On ne relève pas Picardie ''⚜🙏⚜🙏
Oui ici c’est la Bourgogne.
@@augure2589 parlant des mercenaires picards
@@augure2589 donc c'est 100% picards
It seems like the comment section is a warzone between eu4 / late medieval burgundy and TNO burgundy
Who won?
@Red Army Based on what?
Can you do an Assyrian Song maybe one day?
Could be really cool indeed
Its probably gonna be a synthesis of every heavy metal song about blood,death and slaughter
Did the Assyrians leave any written music ?
At least if we're talking about Antic Assyrians.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine Yes, we have our National anthem. And a bunch of Church songs and ancient songs.
@@thesunday2023 how ancient ?
Nice version
Congratulations on finding it.
Is that the unabomber in a Gawr Gura outfit with a Breton flag behind him? Your profile picture is modern art
The Real Burgundy
Yeah, better than the OTHER Burgundy…
@@oznelnavnaekal6679 “yEaH, bEtTer thAn ThE oThEr bUrgUndy 🤪😜🤪😜😋🥰😍😌😚🤨🥸😜😜😩🥵😡🤬🤬😥🤭🫣🫣🫣🫣😈😈😈🫣🤨😋🤪🤪🤪”
@@oznelnavnaekal6679 👀
@@oznelnavnaekal6679 yeah the other burgundy... *burgundian lullaby plays*
sad that burgundy is now known for nukes and funny ss guy
Only in circles of hoi4 players, so that's not much of a loss
What what???
@@nicolasviard2252TNO gamers, all i need to tell ya
Léon de'gralle: *happiness noise*
This is still today the regimental song of the French Army's 1st Infantry Regiment, which traces its lineage back to units in the service of Burgundy in the XVth century.
I like the shape of Burgundy
Both THICC and THINN, balanced as all things should be
That is the wrong opinion. Please proceed to paint your walls with your brain matter.
@@jerrell1169 no need to get aggressive
burgundy is thicc
Or like Aku from Samurai Jack would say: *EXTRA THICC*
Interesting.
The pronunciation recreates quite well the XVth century French...
Well:
- the "r roulé"" (apical) but it can also be found even in the modern French baroque music interpretations,
- "avoir "pronounced as "avwer"" (not ""avwar"), really appreciated... It makes a difference, e.g. in most performances of Tourdion "Ambois" doesn't rhyme 'cause it's pronounced in the modern way... :(
- the s before t in bastons etc. may be an error i.e. it was probably pronounced as an aspiration (ba(h)tons) , then a long "a", the modern normative pronunciation is a kind of posterior "a". I never digged int the Burgundy dialects, I may be wrong.
- strict "liaison"-
Well done...
It is really beautiful, quite prefer it to modern day french
Himmler shitting his pants watching an army of Medieval Burgundian knights marching towards Ost-Paris
Based
Based
Based.
Shitting pants is indeed based
The REAL Burgundy!
What? There’s a fake burgundy? Are you talking about the region?
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa961 no, Himmler's "Gamersstaat Burgund" in TNO mod for HoI4.
@@ReonE60000 ooooh okay
direct rule from ost-gamer chair
A song from the era when the peasantry were first starting to be liberated and the first stirrings of what would become nationalism were taking shape. Yet also a song remembering a nation that died young at the hands of Louis XI, the first modern king of a re-emerging France.
What do you mean by "liberated"
@@mitonaarea5856 from serfdom
@@mitonaarea5856 from feudalism
@@IreneSalmakis Ngl it sounds weird when you put it like that
In this song you learn a little about 15th century politics, and a lot about how much the Burgundians love wine.
Real Burgundian lullaby
The irony is strong with this one
ok jew
What do you think you are talking about the jew?
@@oznelnavnaekal6679 ^ That's what eight hours a day playing map game (Nazi edition) will do to a man.
More like The Burgundian morning call
The flag of Burgundy was carried by the Spanish in her greatest victories on four continents.
I got goosebumps from this and have no idea why
This is a certified [STRENG GEHEIM] moment
I listened to this last night to help me finish a 10 hour walk. My entire body ached with every step but when I put this on in the last hour it gave me the strength to finish.
Countries vanish, but the music persists.
A Burgundian lullaby singing me to sleep, and another Burgundian song to wake me up
Burgundian morning call
Average Dijon citizen
This song is EXACTLY, PRECISELY why I prefer EU4 burgundy over TNO Burgundy.
And DoD burgundy
The two never really related to one another other than the name and region. Comparing them is like comparing apples and oranges
When you play Burgundians in AOE II Lords of the West and charge with 20 coustilliers, 20 paladins, 40 flemish militia and a handful of bombard cannons & hand canoneers
or EU4 making cordon between blue blob and nHnRnE
Good, It's my favourite civ !
I liked the burgundian campaign a lot
And when you play in the Burgundian campaign in TNO: [STRENG GEHEIM]
Note to self:
If you have badass songs, you're either the bad guy or will be crushed in seconds
*free real state for Spanish Empire*
@Alcofibras *yes*
@@jatorresh *yes*
On s en fou
Franche-Comté? I think you mean FRANCO CONDADO
los virreinatos también lo eran
Le duc Felipe a épousé Juana, reine de Castille, et nous a donné à nous les Espagnols l'honneur de garder leurs symboles : la Croix de Bourgogne et la Toison d'Or. Avec ce drapeau nous avons conquis le monde, de Nutca à Valdivia, de Tunis à Ostende, de Manille à Acapulco. Salutations aux Français et aux Belges.
Sauriez vous le nom de cette chanteuse par hasard? Sa façon de prononcer le français est bizzare en dirait qu'elle est Anglaise
Merci pour cette belle preuve de respect en un Français parfait. Vous fûtes de terribles et vaillants adversaires
Sadly burgundy disappeared long ago but would have been cool if she would have continue existing I mean being burgundian in my head seems like a giga chad move
Make it real brother
I started learnig about Burgundy through TNO, but now i am a solid medieval State/Duchy Of Burgundy enjoyer. Charles? More like Chad.
As someone who speaks French, this is so similar to French, but not French at the same time. Burgundian is such a nice language.
Arrête, c'est juste du français avec les accents de l'époque, c'est pas pour rien qu'ils sont surnommés les français reniés
@@kashubian_linguist well played you find the french language and hus accent, there is only 2 régions with a différent language bretagne and le pays basque
@@kashubian_linguist burgundy is a region from the burgondes during the roman empire so its just an accent, so for you i dont speak french but picard ? Its just an accent with few words
@@kashubian_linguist so i dont speak french now ? Well i dont speak full picard but a lot of words
@@kashubian_linguist Burgondian is not a language but a dialect, and we don't need slovenians to know what is our language
-A french
"La ville de Beaunle, là où les bons vins sont" is the famous city of Beaune in Burgundy, also called the "capital of Burgundy wines".
im gonna go insane im gonna go insane im gonna go insane im gonna go insane
When Duke Charles doesn't die
I didn’t
The part where the horns and drums come in is so good. Full medieval feeling. And having the map fade out to the backdrop of the soldiers on horseback charging is so immersive, I feel like I'm standing on the edge of the road as they thunder past.
Makes you wish for more "authentic" medieval shows going into the lesser known countries and fights for sovereignty..
Himmler: Triggered
Also Himmler: I'm going to end this man's whole career
@NootleMcFrootle sorry i don't speak french
@@matthewssilva4781 he said you suck and are just a "terrible pawn for the horde of werhaboos" or something like that idk I ain't insane like him...
@@yanislahtal6253 its just a tno reference, a mod for HOI4
@@matthewssilva4781 I know I'm just translating what the other guy said!
@@yanislahtal6253 i'm not blaming you
Finally youtube video about nice Burgundy,not gamer no no Burgundy
another version of gamer anthem?
Based
Haven't read any comments yet and I already know exactly what's gunna be there.
It's just an endless stream of TNO references
@@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472 could've guessed lmao
People who’ve played TNO: the fucking who
The legacy of that family is amazing, to this day Argentina's 1st infantry regiment waves the cross of Burgundy