I'm currently trying my best to make it in the film world and start my own RUclips film channel to help others, and this video and your channel has been such a big help for me as a bmpcc4k owner.
False Colors is simply a LUT that only calculates luminance, and set particular colors on different luminance ranges. Any camera that can display LUTs can have False Colors (even if it doesn’t come stock in the camera). You can easily download/create your own False Color LUT and import it in your camera (as long as your camera can display LUTs). The GH5 hasn’t False Color built-in, but I created one and it works perfectly!
Man your videos are criminally underviewed. I don’t own a camera, but when I’m ready to buy won I decided on this one for a lot of reasons, and your videos on it have been excellent for me. Thanks for doing them.
i agree. concise clear direction, good taste and sense of design and cinematography, actual useful tips. 10/10. I'd like to know some tips on filming in bright daylight if you dont have an ND filter available. is filming at 1/1000 shutter bad?
Ryan Sulak thanks for the kind words Ryan! 1/1000 shutter speed can work if there’s not a lot of motion/camera movement in the scene but otherwise it can look pretty jerky/stylized. If an ND is out of the budget, look into a circular polarizer as they are sometimes less expensive. Although they serve different purposes, a circular polarizer will still darken the overall image and I’ve used one in a pinch to not have to crank the shutter speed. Hope this helps Ryan!
Great video I bought my black magic 4K about a month ago just went out and did some test shooting with it, and I was pretty happy for the most part, I did notice that I had some over exposure in a few clips, and forgot to use the false color feature to prevent this. Now because of your video, I’m on point to pay attention more and to definitely remember to use it at all times. Thank you!!
My preferred tool is the Red, Green & Blue patches just at the right end of the histogram in the lower left corner. You need to make sure your settings are such that none of those RGB patches illuminate. If they do you are going to get some clipping.
Those are useful for highlights but doesn’t give too any help with shadows. I wish they would add traffic lights to shadows. I use that on my red all the time
Subscriber gained! Well informed, well spoken, straight to the point, you explain why and how you use it, etc....Looking forward to checking out more of your videos!
Thanks a million Tyler- I was always intimidated by false color and you just completely demystified it for me =) Really appreciate ya! Also, have to disagree with you a little.. you are EXTREMELY talented, dude.
Hi Tyler, your videos are awesomely educating and fun to watch. And you've actually taught me in just two tutorials, everything I need to know to start operating my brand new BMPCC. Do you offer any formal trainings/tutorials on the use of Blackmagic Camera and or Davinci Resolve? If yes, I'd love to take your courses as I believe they will help me become a better videographer and producer. Thank you for the excellent work you're doing with these tutorials.
Thank you for such kind words! I currently don’t have any formal trainings but I’m happy to answer any any questions you might have! I appreciate the support and hope you’ll come back for more content!
That was super cool, man. Just got the Bmpcc 6k Pro and realised that this is the 3rd video II watch from your channel. Great content! Happy to be part of your gang now 🙏
Great video - but important to note that the BMPCC4K will show you false colour readings for the RAW clip you are recording and not the graded clip - There is the ability to load a LUT into the camera to see how it affects the image. But unless you are baking that LUT into the footage at the record process (which is an option) - the false colour will read for the very Flat image that you have to grade - that can lead to overexposing because your middle grey will end up being graded darker that what the camera is recording. You can see this effect by turning on false colour and then toggling on an off a LUT - it will have no difference in the false colour readings.
Great point about the exposure reading when baking the LUT in. As of now that only applies to prores as there’s no way of baking the LUT into the Blackmagic Raw file while recording. Great input though and thanks for the info!
I can't understand this. Why would anyone care about clipping for the emulated LUT?? The whole point of exposing correctly is to avoid clipping, and the info for the picture (whether you plan to add LUT later or not) is saved in the "flat" - so you need to see false color for that "flat" image. You can do and correct whatever you want under the LUT later when all the info is present in "flat". You don't need false color for "graded" video in camera - you want maximum information saved - you can make sure your levels for graded pic later in scopes - so you'd just shift offset, highs or lows where ever you want later with no previously lost info - very easy to adjust. And if doing that little is too hard, then I can't understand why not to bake in in camera.
It can be very helpful as a reference especially if you want to make sure the LUT you’re planning on using will still give the expected look. One of my favorite features on my smallHD monitor is the ability to toggle on and of the “ignore look” box on the exposure tools. It’s a quick way to determine what (if anything) might clip/crush. Even when shooting in log, it’s nice to see false colors after the LUT applied to make quick exposure adjustments if needed to protect even more for highlights or shadows depending on the look you’re going for. Kind of like putting zebras at 90% or something a little lower to make sure all highlights are protected. I don’t do this a ton anymore but definitely did when I first got the camera to familiarize myself with the new sensor. Hope this helps haha
Is there a way to find out where B-RAW maps middle grey to? I'd imagine one could properly expose the image with a grey card in that case without using a lut.
Hey bother, just found your channel and have checked out a few of your videos. Awesome work BTW! I needed this because hopefully soon my BMPCC 4K will be sent to me and i didn't realize you were so close. I am in Clemson, SC myself.
I use flase color ALL the time my only argument is that as long as im not Clipping anything I want; I will overexpose so I have even MORE info in my shadows it really all depends on the dynamic range of the scene we are shooting and if we can control lighting!
@@stevegrant6464 He absolutely will. As long as he's not clipping or crushing, all the information can be shifted around and the shot can be darkened in post. The advantage of exposing properly (like this video shows) is you maximize the amount of data you're capturing.
@@andyfilms Mr Soundguy wasn't talking about exposing properly (about which I agree with you completely of course), but saying that by overexposing he will have even more info in the shadows. He will almost certainly lighten the shadows, but this doesn't necessarily mean more information. I'm sure you will agree that the definition of an overexposed shot is one in which data is lost to luminance - blown highlights. You can't recover data that simply isn't there. (NB - I was replying to Mr Soundguy's comment, not commenting on the video.) A miscommunication, I think.
@@stevegrant6464 I think it kind of depends on what you consider to be "exposed" in the first place. A lot of people are going for dark moody looks, "exposing to the look" on set, then going to color correct and finding there's just zero information there and they're stuck with a muddy, video-y image. In that case, than Mr. Soundguy would indeed be "overexposing" compared to what he would otherwise do. But yes, of course "empirical" overexposure, clipping highlights, is undesirable in an effort to get more shadow detail. In an ideal world, you would light the scene so the darkest darks and the brightest brights all fall within the 13 stops of DR of the camera, giving you the maximum amount of information. Of course, the world is far from ideal.
@@andyfilms I take your point - absolutely. We're in agreement here. For my money, if the term 'overexposed' is actually going to mean anything and therefore be of some use, it should be specific. We use an Ursa G2 and a Pocket 6K, and they are both very forgiving as you know. However I was trained back when we still spliced tape and people talked to each other, and 'overexposed' meant something! (Just as 'awesome' used to!) Good to exchange views with you.
I noticed you have a C200 and the Pocket 4K. Do you find it difficult to choose which camera you will use on a project? I have that dilema every time with my C100 Mark II and Pocket 4K. I love the Pocket footage but the ease of use of the C100 is sick!!!
So if I get this right: you don't always want to expose the face in the green-grey-pink spectrum? It all depends on the mood you want create? And what colors do you use for objects other than faces/skin?
Great tip on false color. And one more reason to get the BMPCC4K. I love watching videos on this camera, though I must admit it sometimes feels like I'm torturing myself since I can't get the camera, yet. Yet. On the bright side, I already own a GH5. Which means I only have to get the BMPCC4K body, since my GH5 lenses will fit it. On that note, I'll sign off. :P
Thanks for the tutorial. Feel like this was still a bit vague in regards to what colour on the false colour represents the correct exposure for skin tones. I know the "correct" exposure is dependent on the look that you're going for but if you want to get the equivalent of a light meter reading for your key light on your subjects skin what colour are you after? You showed an example at 3:27 where the shadow side of your face was dark grey to green and then the key side was light grey but I couldn't see any pink tones (maybe it's the RUclips upload). Then when you overexposured the image at 3:30 you started to get pink tones on the shadow side of your face. You see what I mean? It all feels too vague - like I want to be able to see a really different colour for when I get the right exposure to when I'm a stop of two above/under.. The Wandering DP recommends using the false colour with a Small HD monitor and customising the false colour values so that you can tell exactly what is the right exposure and then what is 1-3 stops above/below. My conclusion is that the Black Magic false colour isn't accurate enough to work off but I'd love to be proven wrong if it is reliable?? Anyone else having this issue? I want my exposure to be perfect every time, not to be 1 stop over/under.
@@TylerEdwards ey I had my first shoot that'd I'd call a step toward professional work yesterday and thanks to you I got my shit around exposure together honestly I think you supported the personal growth of alot of people
Thanks! Learned something new from this. What did you film yourself on in this video? It looks crystal clear. I'm struggling with my bmpcc 4k to get clear footage.
Excellent video, well delivered, informative without being OTT and nice pace. Thinking about getting a BMPCC4K so about to sub and go through anything else you have. Cheers
@@TylerEdwards liked the video but not too much in depth about what is good exposure for novices like me. I understand the false color but not certain which color examples are better Like and example of perfect or near perfect exposure or corresponding colors
Great video, grateful for the information. Not trying to be snarky - anyone know why Blackmagic used very dark gray, dark gray, med gray, light gray, and very light gray, with green and pink inbetween😆😆?? - That cracks me up every time I see it, given the number of colors that could've been substituted for any of the other four grays; but maybe there's a logical reason..
Helpful video! There seem to be a lot of conflicting opinions about whether false colour should be reading the LOG signal or from a REC709 LUT. I shoot in LOG on my BMPCC6K but monitor externally with the exact LUT I’ll be applying in the edit (Buttery Natural REC709). The monitor gives me the option to ignore the LUT/look and only judge the LOG signal - and I’m struggling to understand the benefits of doing that if you want to try and nail it in camera as much as possible. When reading the LOG signal, IRE values across the scene are very slightly ‘darker’ but if you are going for specific IRE values for your subject then these will not be 100% accurate once you apply the LUT.
I prefer monitoring false color from the log image so I know I’m not clipping any highlights and crushing any shadows. That is why I prefer sending the false color info from the camera to the monitor as opposed to using false color built into a monitor.
@@TylerEdwards fair enough 👍 I monitor with the exact LUT I’ll always be applying to start the grade in post so I figured it’d make sense to judge false color off that signal.
The explanation is very good but you didn't go through the setup to show how you did the preset, how to setup colour correction on the monitor of the camera. ???
Hi Tyler from another Tyler. Great video 👍. I have been on the fence between getting the bmpcc and the GH5s. What are your thoughts? I would be using it for weddings and events as b cam on a Ronin S to my c100 mark II.
I’ve never shot with the GH5s, so I can’t say for sure. I use the Pocket 4K at weddings as a bcam to my C200 and I love the results. I haven’t had much luck balancing the pocket on my RoninS, so I run it on my glidecam style steadicam and keep my 5D on the ronin. Sorry I couldn’t be much more help!
That grey card should be green when false color is enabled if you’re exposing for that 👍🏼 Side note: love your channel. Your MRO video was very helpful in my investment decisions a few years ago 🤘🏼 Cool to see you comment here (as well as my other vid)!
Hey there, nice vid! Just got my BMPCC4K a few months ago. So what to do with exposure settings for a shot with multiple people with very different skin tones? Aim more for the middle? Bias more for those with darker tones or lighter tones and fix in post?
Thanks bro I like the way you explained this, much helpful I’ve never used false colour. Guys I would like you all to view my latest short film which I’ve filmed with this camera and please comment on what you think.
Raw doesn’t help you if you’ve completely clipped highlights or or shadow info. The highlight recovery button for BRAW is great and can sometimes help, but only if there is enough info for it to work with.
For a sunset, yes, the sun will be clipped. But for lens flares, it typically doesn't clip but it just depends on the scene. If it does clip and the rest of my scene is exposed how I like, I don't care about the clipping.
I'm having a lot of trouble with the weight of my rig. I saw you use Manfrotto. Would you recommend it? I'm looking for something that can handle about 9kg.
Ya, I upload to 1080 if the 4K isn’t necessarily important (especially vlogs) but if I’m posting something shot with the pocket 4K camera where 4K will be helpful to the viewer, I’m definitely going to upload in 4K...even if it takes FOREVER haha!
If you film in a flat colour profile you want to expose to the right 1-1.5 stops. So if you go for moody, it should be a bit too bright in camera, and then bring it down in post. That way you don't have that noise in the darker areas. False color btw, should help you expose to the right. At least my SONY does. I am trying to remember about my Production Camera 4K but I can't recall. I tend to not use false colour, as I mainly do narrative so, I have the luxury of grey card exposing (40 IRE in camera) and spot metering for the ratio and then I usually add a stop for flat/log profiles. Then in post I pivot it down, that way I kill any noise in the darker areas. And with 13 stops you get that extra stop up, to reserve some of those highlights nicely and keep pretty noise free darks. But your zebras and false colour should actually keep this in account depending on your chosen profile. It will probably push you to around 50 IRE mid grey when using log/film and 40 IRE when shooting a REC709.
This is one of the simplest and concise explanations of false color I’ve seen on RUclips. 👍🏼
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
@@TylerEdwards Thanks for keeping the wording down to earth and not attempting to add TMI. Perfect for my high schoolers learning to use a 4k.
I'm currently trying my best to make it in the film world and start my own RUclips film channel to help others, and this video and your channel has been such a big help for me as a bmpcc4k owner.
That’s such a cool thing to hear! Thanks so much for the support.
Blackmagic finally added the chart to tell what values the colors are on the monitor. Now I'm more apt to use this for getting exposure right.
Just got a BMPCC4K this week. Thank you for sharing this - it has already helped me a lot!
False Colors is simply a LUT that only calculates luminance, and set particular colors on different luminance ranges. Any camera that can display LUTs can have False Colors (even if it doesn’t come stock in the camera). You can easily download/create your own False Color LUT and import it in your camera (as long as your camera can display LUTs). The GH5 hasn’t False Color built-in, but I created one and it works perfectly!
Would you be so kind to share the GH5 false colour LUT you created? 🙏🏻
Good.
Thank you so much this has been a lifesaver - I took delivery of a black magic 4K yesterday!
Glad it was helpful!
Man your videos are criminally underviewed. I don’t own a camera, but when I’m ready to buy won I decided on this one for a lot of reasons, and your videos on it have been excellent for me. Thanks for doing them.
Thanks for the kind words! You’ll love this camera!
i agree. concise clear direction, good taste and sense of design and cinematography, actual useful tips. 10/10. I'd like to know some tips on filming in bright daylight if you dont have an ND filter available. is filming at 1/1000 shutter bad?
Ryan Sulak thanks for the kind words Ryan! 1/1000 shutter speed can work if there’s not a lot of motion/camera movement in the scene but otherwise it can look pretty jerky/stylized. If an ND is out of the budget, look into a circular polarizer as they are sometimes less expensive. Although they serve different purposes, a circular polarizer will still darken the overall image and I’ve used one in a pinch to not have to crank the shutter speed. Hope this helps Ryan!
I used to play for the Sting Rays. Lived in Charleston for a few months. Great spot :P
Super cool! Used to love going to those games!
Great video I bought my black magic 4K about a month ago just went out and did some test shooting with it, and I was pretty happy for the most part, I did notice that I had some over exposure in a few clips, and forgot to use the false color feature to prevent this. Now because of your video, I’m on point to pay attention more and to definitely remember to use it at all times. Thank you!!
Glad this was helpful! Thanks for commenting!
Yo Tyler! I’ve gone to this video at least 3x now to make sure I’m using false color correctly. Thanks so much! Keep it up.
I’m so glad you found it helpful!
you're my beginners guide 101 to black magic 4k pocket everything, thank you so much.
That’s awesome! So glad my videos has been helpful!
The lumberjack that knows his stuff! Appreciate you brother.
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Great explanation, thanks for sharing!
Great content dude! I'm working BMP4K false color skills and you nailed it for me. Thanks!
Thanks! Glad it helped!
About to do my first shoot with this model, incredibly helpful - thank you!
My preferred tool is the Red, Green & Blue patches just at the right end of the histogram in the lower left corner. You need to make sure your settings are such that none of those RGB patches illuminate. If they do you are going to get some clipping.
Those are useful for highlights but doesn’t give too any help with shadows. I wish they would add traffic lights to shadows. I use that on my red all the time
Subscriber gained! Well informed, well spoken, straight to the point, you explain why and how you use it, etc....Looking forward to checking out more of your videos!
Thanks for the support!
love the flexibility of .braw. Shooting using the bmpcc 6k right now.
Great info. I’ve been struggling with exposure and truly understanding false color. This helped.
Glad it helped!
GREAT JOB, SIMPLE, TO THE POINT, NOT A LOT OF BLA-BLA-BLA (I miss Charleston, I was there in the NAVY say hi for me)
Perfect - finally a video that helped me to get the exposure right! Didn't know this feature existed. Thanks a lot!
Great video. We just got our BMPCC4K and are excited to see videos like this that help us to get the most out of it. Greetings from 29642!
Awesome, congrats on the new camera Jarrett! My wife’s cousin works (it maybe used to work) at Powdersville HS! Enjoy the new camera 🤙🏼
Thanks a million Tyler- I was always intimidated by false color and you just completely demystified it for me =) Really appreciate ya! Also, have to disagree with you a little.. you are EXTREMELY talented, dude.
glad it was helpful!
Hi Tyler, your videos are awesomely educating and fun to watch. And you've actually taught me in just two tutorials, everything I need to know to start operating my brand new BMPCC. Do you offer any formal trainings/tutorials on the use of Blackmagic Camera and or Davinci Resolve? If yes, I'd love to take your courses as I believe they will help me become a better videographer and producer. Thank you for the excellent work you're doing with these tutorials.
Thank you for such kind words! I currently don’t have any formal trainings but I’m happy to answer any any questions you might have! I appreciate the support and hope you’ll come back for more content!
That was super cool, man. Just got the Bmpcc 6k Pro and realised that this is the 3rd video II watch from your channel. Great content! Happy to be part of your gang now 🙏
Hey thanks so much! Really appreciate and and glad to have you on board!
@@TylerEdwards Thank you man. Yesterday I went out to try the 6K pro following your advice and I nailed 90% of all the shots, man! Fantastic!
Great video - but important to note that the BMPCC4K will show you false colour readings for the RAW clip you are recording and not the graded clip - There is the ability to load a LUT into the camera to see how it affects the image. But unless you are baking that LUT into the footage at the record process (which is an option) - the false colour will read for the very Flat image that you have to grade - that can lead to overexposing because your middle grey will end up being graded darker that what the camera is recording. You can see this effect by turning on false colour and then toggling on an off a LUT - it will have no difference in the false colour readings.
Great point about the exposure reading when baking the LUT in. As of now that only applies to prores as there’s no way of baking the LUT into the Blackmagic Raw file while recording. Great input though and thanks for the info!
I can't understand this. Why would anyone care about clipping for the emulated LUT?? The whole point of exposing correctly is to avoid clipping, and the info for the picture (whether you plan to add LUT later or not) is saved in the "flat" - so you need to see false color for that "flat" image. You can do and correct whatever you want under the LUT later when all the info is present in "flat". You don't need false color for "graded" video in camera - you want maximum information saved - you can make sure your levels for graded pic later in scopes - so you'd just shift offset, highs or lows where ever you want later with no previously lost info - very easy to adjust. And if doing that little is too hard, then I can't understand why not to bake in in camera.
It can be very helpful as a reference especially if you want to make sure the LUT you’re planning on using will still give the expected look. One of my favorite features on my smallHD monitor is the ability to toggle on and of the “ignore look” box on the exposure tools. It’s a quick way to determine what (if anything) might clip/crush. Even when shooting in log, it’s nice to see false colors after the LUT applied to make quick exposure adjustments if needed to protect even more for highlights or shadows depending on the look you’re going for. Kind of like putting zebras at 90% or something a little lower to make sure all highlights are protected. I don’t do this a ton anymore but definitely did when I first got the camera to familiarize myself with the new sensor. Hope this helps haha
Is there a way to find out where B-RAW maps middle grey to? I'd imagine one could properly expose the image with a grey card in that case without using a lut.
Thanks for this video!
Well done tyler. Loved the video.
Thanks!
Thanks mate! It is a great tip!
Thanks alot bro. I just recently got the 6k and learning as I go!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Nice video and straight to the point. Great job.
Thanks! Cool seeing another Charlestonian around!
Hey bother, just found your channel and have checked out a few of your videos. Awesome work BTW! I needed this because hopefully soon my BMPCC 4K will be sent to me and i didn't realize you were so close. I am in Clemson, SC myself.
Nice! My sister went to Clemson 👍🏼 Hope you get your camera soon!
@@TylerEdwards thats cool. I hope I do too. It's just a hurry up and wait game at this point.
Helped me SO much Thankyou!!! however, I think i need to expose further as i get little bits of grain in my shadows and it's driving me mad!
Lower ISO will clean up shadows at the expense of highlight detail.
Tyler this is really very much on point, awesome tutorial on how to nail exposure on the P4K. Thanks for the tutorial very much appreciated.
Been looking for an explaination of BMP4k false colors and this one is great. Happy I found your channel. Subbed...
Cheers Mark!
Your channel is just amazing. A lot of valueable cinematic content!
Thank you for the kind words!
I use flase color ALL the time my only argument is that as long as im not Clipping anything I want; I will overexpose so I have even MORE info in my shadows it really all depends on the dynamic range of the scene we are shooting and if we can control lighting!
You won't have 'even more info' in your shadows if you overexpose. You'll just have an overexposed shot.
@@stevegrant6464 He absolutely will. As long as he's not clipping or crushing, all the information can be shifted around and the shot can be darkened in post. The advantage of exposing properly (like this video shows) is you maximize the amount of data you're capturing.
@@andyfilms Mr Soundguy wasn't talking about exposing properly (about which I agree with you completely of course), but saying that by overexposing he will have even more info in the shadows. He will almost certainly lighten the shadows, but this doesn't necessarily mean more information. I'm sure you will agree that the definition of an overexposed shot is one in which data is lost to luminance - blown highlights. You can't recover data that simply isn't there. (NB - I was replying to Mr Soundguy's comment, not commenting on the video.) A miscommunication, I think.
@@stevegrant6464 I think it kind of depends on what you consider to be "exposed" in the first place. A lot of people are going for dark moody looks, "exposing to the look" on set, then going to color correct and finding there's just zero information there and they're stuck with a muddy, video-y image. In that case, than Mr. Soundguy would indeed be "overexposing" compared to what he would otherwise do.
But yes, of course "empirical" overexposure, clipping highlights, is undesirable in an effort to get more shadow detail.
In an ideal world, you would light the scene so the darkest darks and the brightest brights all fall within the 13 stops of DR of the camera, giving you the maximum amount of information. Of course, the world is far from ideal.
@@andyfilms I take your point - absolutely. We're in agreement here. For my money, if the term 'overexposed' is actually going to mean anything and therefore be of some use, it should be specific. We use an Ursa G2 and a Pocket 6K, and they are both very forgiving as you know. However I was trained back when we still spliced tape and people talked to each other, and 'overexposed' meant something! (Just as 'awesome' used to!)
Good to exchange views with you.
Great video, thanks for sharing
Thanx. friend for information
I noticed you have a C200 and the Pocket 4K. Do you find it difficult to choose which camera you will use on a project? I have that dilema every time with my C100 Mark II and Pocket 4K. I love the Pocket footage but the ease of use of the C100 is sick!!!
It just depends on the job honesty! If I’m doing interviews, C200 is usually my a-cam and then broll is usually with the Pocket!
Thanks for the tutorial! Keep up the good work. You might keep it a little shorter but other than that nice videos on your channel!
Thanks!
Very informative. Thanks it helps alot
Awesome vid! so the |sweet spot\ sorta speak is in between green and pink?
So if I get this right: you don't always want to expose the face in the green-grey-pink spectrum? It all depends on the mood you want create? And what colors do you use for objects other than faces/skin?
Great tip on false color. And one more reason to get the BMPCC4K. I love watching videos on this camera, though I must admit it sometimes feels like I'm torturing myself since I can't get the camera, yet. Yet. On the bright side, I already own a GH5. Which means I only have to get the BMPCC4K body, since my GH5 lenses will fit it. On that note, I'll sign off. :P
I hope you got it soon! I’ve thought about getting a micro 4/3 lens for a smaller setup but that’s a want not a need at this point haha.
This is so clear and to the point. Thank you! 😇
It does get hot in the SC!!!! Cool vid. Love the pocket
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Thanks for the tutorial. Feel like this was still a bit vague in regards to what colour on the false colour represents the correct exposure for skin tones. I know the "correct" exposure is dependent on the look that you're going for but if you want to get the equivalent of a light meter reading for your key light on your subjects skin what colour are you after? You showed an example at 3:27 where the shadow side of your face was dark grey to green and then the key side was light grey but I couldn't see any pink tones (maybe it's the RUclips upload). Then when you overexposured the image at 3:30 you started to get pink tones on the shadow side of your face. You see what I mean? It all feels too vague - like I want to be able to see a really different colour for when I get the right exposure to when I'm a stop of two above/under.. The Wandering DP recommends using the false colour with a Small HD monitor and customising the false colour values so that you can tell exactly what is the right exposure and then what is 1-3 stops above/below. My conclusion is that the Black Magic false colour isn't accurate enough to work off but I'd love to be proven wrong if it is reliable?? Anyone else having this issue? I want my exposure to be perfect every time, not to be 1 stop over/under.
you got great energy man
thank you!
@@TylerEdwards ey I had my first shoot that'd I'd call a step toward professional work yesterday and thanks to you I got my shit around exposure together honestly I think you supported the personal growth of alot of people
That's so awesome to hear! Thanks for that!
Thanks for a concise explanation. I will now start using it!
Glad it was helpful!
Great tips, hey why did you get the c200 and the bmcc? I wonder which one you prefer and if the workflow of the c200 is a larger one.
Thanks! Learned something new from this. What did you film yourself on in this video? It looks crystal clear. I'm struggling with my bmpcc 4k to get clear footage.
Excellent video, well delivered, informative without being OTT and nice pace. Thinking about getting a BMPCC4K so about to sub and go through anything else you have. Cheers
Thanks for the kind words Justin! It’s an awesome camera to have in the kit for sure!
@@TylerEdwards liked the video but not too much in depth about what is good exposure for novices like me. I understand the false color but not certain which color examples are better
Like and example of perfect or near perfect exposure or corresponding colors
In other words what is too deep. I understand what is too over. But not too under
Very nice video,but how do you correct exposure ,can you give some guidelines on that as well? thank you
Thank you Tyler really helpful, what camera did you use to shoot this video?
Canon C200
The intro had me shook😂
Best of it, when you say: have perfect exposure and i look on ur face, indeed, it's really perfectly exposed ;)
Great video, grateful for the information. Not trying to be snarky - anyone know why Blackmagic used very dark gray, dark gray, med gray, light gray, and very light gray, with green and pink inbetween😆😆?? - That cracks me up every time I see it, given the number of colors that could've been substituted for any of the other four grays; but maybe there's a logical reason..
"pls" replay that FIRE shot
SUBSCRIBED. 10/10. really informative and well delivered 👍🏽
Thanks so much!
Thx y excellent explanation
Great video!
Thanks!
I need to learn more about exposure
Helpful video! There seem to be a lot of conflicting opinions about whether false colour should be reading the LOG signal or from a REC709 LUT.
I shoot in LOG on my BMPCC6K but monitor externally with the exact LUT I’ll be applying in the edit (Buttery Natural REC709). The monitor gives me the option to ignore the LUT/look and only judge the LOG signal - and I’m struggling to understand the benefits of doing that if you want to try and nail it in camera as much as possible.
When reading the LOG signal, IRE values across the scene are very slightly ‘darker’ but if you are going for specific IRE values for your subject then these will not be 100% accurate once you apply the LUT.
I prefer monitoring false color from the log image so I know I’m not clipping any highlights and crushing any shadows. That is why I prefer sending the false color info from the camera to the monitor as opposed to using false color built into a monitor.
@@TylerEdwards fair enough 👍 I monitor with the exact LUT I’ll always be applying to start the grade in post so I figured it’d make sense to judge false color off that signal.
So do you have two BMPCC 4Ks? This was filmed with a BMPCC 4K and you were holding one? Balling. :D
Just one BMPCC4K. Other is C200
that's really useful, thank you kind sir
Thanks! Glad it helped!
The explanation is very good but you didn't go through the setup to show how you did the preset, how to setup colour correction on the monitor of the camera. ???
Hi Tyler from another Tyler. Great video 👍. I have been on the fence between getting the bmpcc and the GH5s. What are your thoughts? I would be using it for weddings and events as b cam on a Ronin S to my c100 mark II.
I’ve never shot with the GH5s, so I can’t say for sure. I use the Pocket 4K at weddings as a bcam to my C200 and I love the results. I haven’t had much luck balancing the pocket on my RoninS, so I run it on my glidecam style steadicam and keep my 5D on the ronin. Sorry I couldn’t be much more help!
i got both! get both!!🤣 gh5s ease of use, good colors . if u want to use it for films, and got a lot of time to shoot.. bpcc4k is great
An oldee but a goodee!!!
Love false color 🙌
Great video, can you comment on how to get a correct skin tone
Hi Tyler, I'd like to set my exposure each time using an 18% grey card and false color. What should I be looking for in the spectrum?
That grey card should be green when false color is enabled if you’re exposing for that 👍🏼
Side note: love your channel. Your MRO video was very helpful in my investment decisions a few years ago 🤘🏼 Cool to see you comment here (as well as my other vid)!
@@TylerEdwards Appreciate the response, Tyler. And always great to meet another gunner!
great intro ...
Great video.
Thanks!
Hey there, nice vid! Just got my BMPCC4K a few months ago. So what to do with exposure settings for a shot with multiple people with very different skin tones? Aim more for the middle? Bias more for those with darker tones or lighter tones and fix in post?
Very helpful. Thank you! You gained a sub! 🤙🏻
Thanks bro I like the way you explained this, much helpful I’ve never used false colour. Guys I would like you all to view my latest short film which I’ve filmed with this camera and please comment on what you think.
Great video!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
Parabéns, Você me ajudou muito com este tutorial.
Do you even use zebras if you’re using false color?
Nope. Never haha. Zebras are a last resort for me if there’s not false color or a waveform personally.
@@TylerEdwards Thanks man! helped a ton!
good stuff
What was your setup for shooting this video?
The spectrum bar appears on the monitor now thanks to an update. Make sure to update your camera if you don't have it yet.
Yup! Awesome update. This video was made quite a while before that update but thank you for the comment!
What lens or lenses do you use for the bmpcc?
What about the RAW, if you go into file settings, you can modifiy Exposure and ISO... isn't it possible to adjust the parameters afterwards?
Raw doesn’t help you if you’ve completely clipped highlights or or shadow info. The highlight recovery button for BRAW is great and can sometimes help, but only if there is enough info for it to work with.
might be a stupid question but what are you changing at 3:31 to crank up the exposure?
when filming a sunset or getting a lens flare do you let it clip at all?
For a sunset, yes, the sun will be clipped. But for lens flares, it typically doesn't clip but it just depends on the scene. If it does clip and the rest of my scene is exposed how I like, I don't care about the clipping.
@@TylerEdwards ok thank you, my image was getting too dark because I was exposing for the highlights and not the foreground
I'm having a lot of trouble with the weight of my rig. I saw you use Manfrotto. Would you recommend it?
I'm looking for something that can handle about 9kg.
Sachtler is my primary now
Hey! Hello! what you think for a Black magic pocket 4k: SHINOBI or SMALL HD??
Imagine the time we'd save if people stopped asking to comment, rate, and subscribe .
10-15 seconds give or take
100th like. No dislikes! Good going brother
Thanks man! 👊🏼🤙🏼 It’s always a good day seeing you drop in!
This was great!
Thanks!
you need to change from log to extended to get accurate false color or you use false color on log profile?
Thanks for uploading in 4K! It gives an advantage over PeterMcKinnon videos, for example. When I see quality, I also want details in pic.
Ya, I upload to 1080 if the 4K isn’t necessarily important (especially vlogs) but if I’m posting something shot with the pocket 4K camera where 4K will be helpful to the viewer, I’m definitely going to upload in 4K...even if it takes FOREVER haha!
how can i properly expose skin tone without an external monitor?
#ChuckTown
Good!! to the point! thanks
Great Content
Thanks Justin that means a lot!
best bro i love it
Thank you.
If you film in a flat colour profile you want to expose to the right 1-1.5 stops. So if you go for moody, it should be a bit too bright in camera, and then bring it down in post. That way you don't have that noise in the darker areas.
False color btw, should help you expose to the right. At least my SONY does. I am trying to remember about my Production Camera 4K but I can't recall. I tend to not use false colour, as I mainly do narrative so, I have the luxury of grey card exposing (40 IRE in camera) and spot metering for the ratio and then I usually add a stop for flat/log profiles.
Then in post I pivot it down, that way I kill any noise in the darker areas.
And with 13 stops you get that extra stop up, to reserve some of those highlights nicely and keep pretty noise free darks.
But your zebras and false colour should actually keep this in account depending on your chosen profile. It will probably push you to around 50 IRE mid grey when using log/film and 40 IRE when shooting a REC709.