Smite 2 Pros and Cons
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Fineokay gives his thoughts on Smite 2 and its pros and cons
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That olorun take is so spot on
really?
My only Cons is the whole shop, I hate everything about it
NEED POTION SLOTS.
Not enough inputs for that if you want controller support
@@razinik this yeah. you're not buying potions late game anyway, so them taking up slots isn't an issue
@@razinikif you play on savage mode, there’s like 4 buttons left for inputs lols 😂
Which if you’re not on savage or savage plus on controller wtf are you doing 😂
@@ItsOSAbaby oh maybe I'm mistaken (I play kb&m), but I've seen so much complaining about the extra buttons for controller already that I think any more would cause an exodus lol
@@razinik yes yes you are lol 😂 but it’s okay, you’re on M&K so you wouldn’t know.
I’m disappointed in the console players who think that though 🤣 cause you can just program the abilities to your triggers and your ult to 2 triggers at once and then whatever else to the buttons.
And you still have the left thumb stick input lmfaooo
Is it just me, or do ranged autos feel like theyre coming out at the wrong time in the amomation? Like something about ot just feels off
It felt like that to me as well.
The Store UI on Console is confusing and ass. Actives are impossible to activate on console on controller 🎮. Game feels clunky and characters run too fast early game.
Exactly what my buddy said. On console actives were absolutely terrible. Adds many more keybinds for a controller.
Huh? Are they not just LT + 1 button...? I found them perfectly fine
I hate the new relic system. I love the active items but i definitely think you should be able to choose your first relic.
Maybe a blink relic amd a blink item active? Might be interesting on support/solos that can fit it
Beads for all is a little lame but unless they drastically reduce cc which so far they haven't it's kinda key. There is just to many stun one shots to not have beads.
They absolutely have lmfao. All the CCs that used to last up to 2s only last like 1.2s or 1.6s now. There’s a lot of changes to CC durations and I can only see that happening more.
@@Anirudhji2001but they've also shown that so far no God has had any cc removed whilst Zeus has had cc added to his kit. Until they move away from being so relient on hard cc as a mechanic they will always need to offer beads. Although they give beads to everyone they also increased its respawn timer so it's not as broken as a lot of people claim it is.
I'm hoping that with the actual release we get some starter items. Even if we don't get any build trees from them and just a basic T1 item will be nice
Big con for me is the buy store on console. It sucks for console was obviously made for PC. Console is a big reason smite 1 has a bigger player base. Help us out. PC players just play league.
300s beads cooldown lol thats 5 minutes
I got to hard disagree with the blink over beads comment. Beads is the strongest relic for a reason. If they made it an active item it would be a must buy. And if they took it out of the game, that would inherently buff certain CC focused gods. Do you want a world where there is nothing you can do if Fenrir ults you while you were stunned?
It's useless on tanks
@@Jimmy-jx1pf It’s not useless on tanks. Even a tank needs to beads a Fenrir ult or Loki stun. Not to survive but to keep peeling for your squishies. You can’t CC the jungler and stop them from killing your ADC if you’re also stunned.
Beads already is an active item in the magical defense section isnt it?
@@AceOniFlyer only having beads is absolutely terrible for tanks. Idk where you think beads is better for a front line god with no way to initiate
@@sylol200 only beads? Everybidx has beads and they can build active items for other relic effects. U do not have beada only.
Im ngl idk how smite looks good to ppl but ik its just ny opnion makes sense since i like paragon style or predecessor
Predecessor all day!
Need potion slots, I kind hate the map, needs a role que like smite, I hate bushes
Heck yeah you’re right. Especially ably those beads 😩
I think itd be cool for them to rotate the starting relic out from beads to other ones for seasonal or mid season shake ups..... Also the side lane teleporters are lame, sue me
Still wish we had two relics at the start of the game, but keep the busted crazy relics on the active items. So normal blink is free but you have to build a combat blink. Alternate timeline as an active item would be cool too, so you can choose when to activate it
So you want people to have 2 blinks at the same time?
@@Schelmi36 if hirez took the gloves off, they'd make the relic blink a combat blink, but for some reason they stapled it to an item. The item only gives you some health and cooldown, so it wastes an entire item slot when we could just keep two relics and have a more complete build
@@PrimeCookieGuy well it is still a combat blink, and there are a lot of people who'd rather have active items then relics, because it opens up A LOT more variety
The main reason why bears feels underwhelming is that they haven’t added the cc chain gods yet like kumba, khepri, xing tian, ne zha, etc. I do hope that they lower the amount of crowd control in the game. A god’s kit should only have a maximum of 2 cc abilities imo
I don’t like the card art but like the models
Agree with the blink take. League has it, Predecessor has it, Smite should have it too
Is it Balance???
Beads kind of need to exist or CC and in-kit CC immunity would just be OP. But coming off Smite 1 it seems silly that you don't have the agency to start with blink instead, and getting it requires building a specific item that may or may not have the stats you want.
Maybe give you a few essential options (beads and blink at least, possibly some other Smite 1 relic) at the start, and then you can obtain the other one(s) through active items.
Yeah I just posted my smite 2 video I put in some work to edited I made alot of the same points! I like the olorun take! Definitely felt slow!
W8 no starter?? I was already sceptical if i would like the item shstem... I believe there will be no variety
I hope they revert it back to smite 1 as far as relics are concerned. I really liked having options and having 2 relics that didnt take up an item slot.
It didn't work out well due to bad players. Having people building med on hunters and mages pretty much just signed your team up for a loss. The really bad matchmaking bringing in low tier players to normal queues is to blame for that one.
@@slaayerr1 And you think adding skills/actives to items is going to make them better / game easier? It only makes it 100x worse and pushes players away from the game. They are trying to bring in the dota and league crowd and that will not happen.
@Sins13 nope not at all. I think the smite crowd is still going to fail to use it well. I'm just saying I'd rather see an item with stats on them for the active than someone having med on a damaged and gaining about 200 health end game lol. Either way you can't teach these players to build correctly
@@slaayerr1 Agreed, the neith buying med is a special type of player. But there will be 100x as many now that items have actives on them. It would be the same as having no relic is the point im trying to make. Because having more buttons isnt going to make the game better.
@Sins13 Oh, I 100% agree. I'm just saying I see the reason why they just forced beads and wards on every person but i also see how the game itself will create a lot more noobs to the same level of the "med neith" type with these new item changes. I already saw crit full strength anubis in the alpha 🤣
Would have been funny if he sa8d pros: me and whatever old pro player he liked
Cons: whatever pro player he didn't like or know can take a joke
But I guess actual insight is nice too
do you know billkeyz
Yeah I cannot believe we got rid of blink - the best relic in Smite 1
There was a blink item in the alpha
Beads is easily the best relic in smite 1 you are fried
So they're just gonna slowly release the same gods they've already slowly released?
Yes, because they gods need to be reworked and recorded to work within the new engine. Smite 1 runs on Unreal Engine 3. Smite 2 runs on Unreal Engine 5. However, there were only 14 gods because this was an Alpha. The alpha next month will have 23 gods. They also plan on having a closed beta that is open 24/7 in July as long as everything goes well. That will likely have the 55 gods they already have prepared for Smite 2 if we are lucky. They have to rebuild the game from the ground up to fit with the engine while also reworking entire systems to fit with the new capabilities that the old engine didn't have. Which means having all 120+ gods available at launch isn't a priority. However, they already stated that once the game is ready for release, we would be getting a "new" God every 3 weeks except for when there is a completely new God ready to be released. So it wouldn't take too long to get all of the gods in the game and every gods with have minor to major changes to their kit as well. So, none of this is bad.
Okay, fine
Legend
I played the alpha as well and with it being a new game and having many changes is what makes it fun but after about 12 games I can confidently say its not enough change for it to gain any new fans. With how it is now the only people going to be playing smite 2 a year after release are the people still playing smite right now.
In fact I am willing to bet they lose numbers because of the item skills. Turning this into dota or league isnt going to bring those players here, it will only push away smite players.
Not everything going to be in officially released tho
Thank you, I’ve been on Reddit dying on the hill of changing blink and beads. Too many gods rely on it and they should change it so it can be used even while in combat. That way gods can use it defensively or offensively.
combat blink was a thing and was the most busted thing
Me too lmfao. The smite subreddit is a cesspool of idiots though, everybody trying to justify free beads being a good thing, and the only reasoning they can give is, “but look what they can do if they have blink level 1.” It’s so funny because YOU COULD DO THE SAME DUMBASS. There’s just more options of aggression vs defensive tactics with blink, where beads forces you to just be defensive.
@@frition627everyone has combat blink in Predecessor and it’s fine
@@frition627 yes when there was other relics to help save you from dumb plays. In this game where there is only one relic I don’t think it would be broken.
Beads on everyone are good. But also have blink too at the same time.
every assasin should be forced with blink, would make the game a lot more fun if youre forced to be aggressive or just have a useless relic if youre scared to blink
The biggest con for me is the item system.
The game is definitely a bit clunky and needs polishing and improvement I agree with every point
I’m not a fan of the build trees, goes into leagues trees it looks like now
Has anyone had the problem of just people not knowing how to play? This is 1 of MANY examples, but I had a Ymir run to my lane (I was solo lane) and sit and try to gank for 10min-ish. Cause he is sitting there, I am only getting half the xp and gold for minions and all he is doing is sitting in a bush waiting for their chaac (their solo) to gank but we could never win cause I’m under leveled and so is the Ymir because he is taking my farm and not doing anything else. He also left the game a few minutes AFTER the 10min-ish he was doing it.
It was really hard for me to come up with criticism for the game because 8-9/10 games had a teammate like that OR, just when I think it’s fine, someone leaves the game early.
Had so many teammates like that, it made the alpha unbearable to play since I can’t enjoy it without someone ruining it.
Another example was a Neith and Ymir telling me to go duo lane because they thought it was solo (I’m pretty sure, unless they were just being A holes)
Buddy that is the smite community. A large portion of smite players did not know how to build and play even with a thousand hours in the game. They never attempted to learn and would just fester. I knew 2 people that literally refused to build boots in any mode back when they were the staple first item for everyone. We still had mages and hunters building med first relic. They'd build zero pen. They'd position into the enemy team alone and cry to the team. Etc etc. The game has always had some really bad lower skill players and smite 2 will show that even more now that they've allowed people to build strength items on an intelligence God and get no benefit from it lol
Tbh graphics look good, but smite 1s graphics are crisp and i can actaully tell whats going on. I know its an alpha, another thing some abilities dont even show up like kukus zephyr
bunch of the graphics are going to be refined and finished i imagine
I don't like when people say "I know it's an alpha but..." and then list something completely obvious that will be fixed during the alpha, and is expected to be that way in the alpha.
@@messedupperfect9367 me when the unfinished and buggy closed alpha of a game is unfinished and buggy
@@mira-zv1ug Literally. If an alpha wasn't buggy it wouldn't be much of an alpha.
Why would I play Smite 2 over Predecessor for instance? In my opinions Predecessor has better graphics and smoother game play
Wish they’d kept beads and aegis in smite 1 and left them out of smite 2. So many gods have cc immunities or way to avoid damage. Being able to add beads and aegis on top of that is just ridiculous and make it feel like babys first moba. I know it’s cherry-picking but going against a Kali? Better believe she had her ult up, probably either beads or aegis, and most random jungles seem to have both so for like 10 seconds she’s just untouchable. How fun.
As much as I dislike league, they should take their approach to relics/active items. Let me choose them in the pregame lobby. Everyone having puri is lame. Maybe bring back HoG for jungle, support oriented actives. Regardless, all beads sucks for sure.
Also, let me have more than one ward pls.
Maybe certain roles should get different relics like mid adc get beads or aegis jungle and solo get blink and maybe support either gets blink too or some other type of relic. Either that method or you get to choose what your relic is between those 3
I promise you, an in combat blink is significantly better for survivability for squishy characters than beads is. Beads is simply a mickey relic used to save yourself from bad positioning. Instead of cleansing a Hun Batz ult, just see him in the map and know that he’s gonna try to blink ult you, and blink his blink. There’s your safety.
@@Anirudhji2001 you’re scenario is full of flaws but blink would be good too
@@melodiic_1724 eh I could’ve been more specific but it’s a RUclips comments section, I’m not writing an essay
Problem with giving role-based differences is that it forces you to play a certain way. Who knows... maybe mid should start in solo and rotate to mid at 10 mins and people just havent realised it yet (or something like that).
No one thinks waves spawn just a little too fast?
We used to have a season where you started in lane then went for buffs so I think it's fine. Just feels like you can mess around in lane rather than staring at each other waiting for buffs to spawn lol
My thought is they are going to overhaul the map completely and this one was made smaller and fast-paced for quicker games and more testing of late game builds
@cade4118 this does make sense hadn't though about that.
They honestly probably needed to throw beads or aegis as a default with ward because so many bad players get really dumb relics for their classes in smite 1 (yes im looking at you mages and hunters with med). The issue is theyve managed to make the game have an even larger learning curve in a community that unfortunately will always have some very low tier players mixed in with good ones. Having crit anubis building all strength items and only his wrap is benefitting from that is painful. Noobs already couldnt build in smite 1, i think its gonna be really bad in smite 2
Is it weird I don’t think it looks that great like some parts look polished then done parts lack so much detail it’s like a mashup of different quality art. Also the UI store feels bad to traverse
Yes, it is wired.. because it's an early Alpha and like a year away from being "finished"
for sure there are things not finished yet... ...
@@farbenpracht i get that its just idk smitw 1 is the start right si shouldnt it only move forward from that point. Ofc ill give it time i want it to succeed smite is the only game ive ever played this long
giving everyone blink is even more stupid ngl, how about we chose? blink/aegis/beads when we get to a game similiar window to god auto build
Blink > beads fs
PREDECESSOR!!!
Game is copycat of League of Legends, With Forced crossplay PC has huge advantage not only with aim but active items too. I dont like it
Yeah you should have the option of choosing from Blink, Beads, Aegis or Tele imo
Not every god benefits equally from beads and being able to invest in a double blink sounds fun asf for jungle/solo
What if beads cooldown increased every time you used it? Then you could maybe spend gold to reset it or something. Or the cooldown caps out and is stuck there for the rest of the game. That way, being forced to use beads is kind of a huge deal.
Question: do my skins transfer over?
nope
Please dont give everyone blink in my bronze lobbies...
The lol items store is the worst
I think having beads as an item rather than a relic makes more sense. In all honesty if you're going to have one of the defensive relics be available i'd rather it be aegis.
You’re the first person to criticize the beads slot. I think that shit is awful
Graphics looks like a mobile game to me
Keeping 2 relics would solve that problem tbh, cause blink is cool to have but I feel like beads is necessary, especially for so many specific gods who don’t have a sure-fire way of getting out of being stunned 83 times.
Cons: players are already feeding lane and being toxic
yeah ur prob part of the problem buddy its an alpha relax
@@LimpurtFan6969 can't tell if you're ironically being toxic or lack self awareness
@ThompsonBriar probably referencing that you are complaining about lane feeding when it's a new game that feels different for smite 1 players and probably a whole different world for the new players
@@slippery2322 I'm aware of that and I don't expect anyone to be good at the game. But I specifically said feeding lane and being toxic i.e. my teams 0-6 solo lane Bacchus you rock cancel that spamming everyone on the team with a 2 to 1 kd ratio for missing abilities or not killing his fed Bellona lane opponent 15 minutes into a match.
@@ThompsonBriar do you really think these toxic scums will change just because there is a new game?!
They will be toxic when SMITE42 will be out..
Bro said it's clunky like it's a first test alpha dummy 😂
Starting with beads and a ward is super lame. Lowers the skill and strategy of playing smite, which is unfortunately what they were probably going for
How? All it means is less kill potential. Skill isn't being affected. Smite 2 beads has a very long cooldown. You still need to time your beads and not waste it. Players can hide and ambush now so warding is important.
I really don't understand what skill is being lowered by everyone having beads and ward. You still need to play the game. Sometimes you see teams in smite 1 go all beads.
@@cybzer0560 it needs to be a limit of 5 per game, i heard theyre also lowering the amount of cc in the game. i think 95% of gods have a slow like chirons 2, why does chirons 2 have a slow
@@imgonnacream limiting the beads would be devastating for the late game. Imagine getting quickly stunned into a one shot in the late game, unable to do something. So far the gods feel similar with the cc amount from smite 1, at least for hard cc, so beads are needed
No? It's not fun to not being able to fight back.
Everyone still dies even if you have beads lmao.
Dont play it, make them only update smite 1
How else will they save their dead game?
i think the biggest con of smite 2 is that its not smite 2. its a whole different game series not a sequel to smite. SOOOO many core mechanics have been changed just in hopes of being similar to league and dota which i dont think was needed, it is in no way a sequel if the core fundamentals of the game have been changed in every way
I agree. Item actives just shouldnt be there IMO. That is them dropping smite and trying to be league or dota like you said.
true..
we had a really good, fun and responsive Relic system. idk why we had to change that..
2 relics, getting second on 12 to respond to the enemies and upgrade them to stronger versions late game
people say its now more diverse.. i doubt that .. if f.e. you want blink now you NEED a specific item .. if it does fit your build or does not
@@farbenpracht Correct, it wont really be that much more diverse. Item wise yes (crit zeus and stuff) but less effective slots if that makes sense. Also, it raises skill ceilings but will also raise the floor meaning way more people will be bad at the game. Myself included. I tried dota because a friend liked it. I hated it. Building pieces like exodia to get one item, items having extra skills. Its just not smite. Its not going to bring that crowd over in all honesty. Its only going to push smite people away.
Yeah the gameplay is slow as shi everyone can see you a mile away or hear you a mile away
Everytime I go near teammates I lag out the wahzoo. No starters is wack, and the matches ho for like 40+ minutes. I think the gold needs to be increased or something. Cuz it take literally that 35 mins to hit max build
its because youre getting stomped, the games ive seen weak3n and warchi are 30k gold ahead lmao
@imgonnacream bro it's not that I'm getting stomped. Weeken and his buddies aren't stacked haha, massive oversight there buddy
Its because they are trying to make it league/dota. Item actives screams it. Much slower gold and ramping. This isnt smite anymore IMO.
The game doesn’t feel good. The graphics are fancy, but there’s some weird thing where it’s hard to see what’s going on either because the colors are too vibrant and saturated or something else that I can’t put my finger on. And ye, the game feels sluggish or clunky. Fps is hard to come by so you’re forced to play on low settings on a new pc (at 1440p). I could only muster sitting through two games. It’s an alpha, sure, but they have a lot of work to do
Too much cc for beads not to be on every character. Im already worried CC heavy comps are gonna roll when there’s more characters implemented into the game. 5 min CD on beads is along time to play safely without any error.
That’s the cool part - they’re making a new game. They can lower the CC in the game across the board. I hear this complaint all the time even without the discussion of beads/blink. Maybe they should change it 😅
Beads should be active item
I’m fine with beads being in the game, but having it given for free is just silly. Beads should be on an active item and blink should be given for free. Combat blink too, because that’ll allow even squishies to have a level of survivability even through being damaged, as they typically need the beads level survivability. They can have that with blink.
@@DudeImFonz I agree Big Fonz, I’d love for them to lessen cc. Perhaps if we bot the feedback poll they’ll finally listen 😉
Shit game won't play it lol
I hope starter items never fucking return. Speed is fine, a bit of a longer laning phase due to it but that’s normal for every moba.
It's amazing, but can I just say part of the reason I can't play Paragon or Predecessor is because I can't see what's going on. I feel like the new graphics are great but with the shading I know a lot of people are going to have more trouble understanding what's happening on screen. Especially the casual players.
Didn't get ya
I felt the same when I started, after a month of pred I’ve adapted and can feel our team fights. Just takes time
I completely agree with this, the colors are less distinct and it creates a cluttery feeling in fights sometimes.
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Shouldnt be blink either. Just as bad as beads.
Yeah I know its alpha blah blah blah. But it's horrible to play. Movement sucks. Lots of abilities feel worse. Screen has visual diehorrea and looks like a worse version of predecessor
So you acknowledge it’s an alpha yet complain about things that are usually prevalent in alphas? Considering the game isn’t even close to polished or finished. Y’all just be talking, I swear 😂.
I wouldn't say a worse version but it seems way more like predecessor than smite. The graphics don't make things look distinct, so it feels all cluttery
@@shawnfromstatefarm8822 you are aware of the title of this short? Pros and cons of smite 2 ?
@quadriplegic2789 Yeah, a lot of abilities feel harder to hit. Bacchus leap,kuku ult for example. The way abilities look and feel was something the dev diaries reiterated numerous times,which is not the case across the board. This is a game thats supposed to be ready in 80 something days. Feels rushed. I want them to win as I love the game. Hopefully, they can put the cash injection to good use.
@@youtubeenthussiast328 We're in Alpha, the game is NOT meant to be ready in 80-something days. The July release date in Steam is just a random date they had to put to make the Alpha playable on Steam. 2025 is the target for Closed and Open Beta.
Unplayable for console players at the moment but will eventually be good
I played all weekend on ps5 zero issues lol
@@ziegfeld4131 it’s alright but the whole user interface and buttons has made it horrible to play - literally played 1 game and played smite 1 again
Looks like a mobile game
It's literally in CLOSED alpha. It's not supposed to look like a finished game. 90% of all images being used are placeholders, and the only thing the Alpha has is the absolute basic core and fundamentals for gameplay and functionality. Literally nothing else. Which is the point of such an early alpha. To give feedback in the very beginning stages of development for the most important part of the game!
@@ImmortalMarshmallow relax dude. Go outside. Mabye go get laid. Looks like it’ll never amount to smite but mabye it’ll improve. I still think it’s a silly business move. The player base isn’t big enough. It’ll split the already low player base into 40, 40 and the other 20 percent will leave due to waiting too long for ques. Guess we we will just wait and see.
@@jpatto3603wow you need help mentally lol
Its pre alpha.