For anyone who may be looking for any longboard coaching video analysis, we're getting things up and running and I'd be stoked to assess and set up a plan for what you're looking to improve on! If you are at all interested please feel free to email at longboardcoaching@outlook.com Cheers everyone! Ben 🤙
No certainly not, just trying to provide some information which is hopefully helpful for some if they’re finding the equipment is making things challenging. Not for everyone and definitely not the only answer to our surfing problems 🙏🤙
You’re videos are great. I just got back into surfing after about 15 years and I wish I had all of these tips when I was young. Not that my younger self would have listened anyway.
This was great information for beginners and intermediate surfers! if I can make recommendation for educational purposes. Have the boards standing upright and lined up against a wall, this would really show their differences standing side by side, also have a board rack to put the board on in order show the rocker, tail and nose shapes (good camera angle). Thanks, I wish I had someone pointing this out to me when I was a kid:)
The last thing I ever expected to hear you say was that you surfed Long Beach, New York. That’s where I live. 😊 The surf leaves much to be desired. The best thing I did for my surf progression was to go to a flatter rocker board. The high rocker longboard I had was holding me back from getting into these mushy waves here. Hope to see you out in our lineup one day. 🙏
Hey bro this is the ghost AT SANTA CRUZ COLD WATER SURFING CH. I love your channel I'm a longboard enthusiasts and old guy trying to get back up on the ride thank you for all your tips this is a ghost your friend on the Golden Shore in Santa Cruz California sending you Good Vibes and most excellent rides
Epic thanks so much Charlie! hope its able to help your surfing!!! If you have any further questions at all or wanted more depth/clarity on anything please don't hesitate to message - email is longboardcoaching@outlook.com if you did :) yewww cheers Charlie!
Hey Ben...perfect timing as I look to add another board to my quiver. Some very helpful info here which I have struggled to find on-line. Regards from Cape Town, RSA
Board that works in lots of conditions => more practice time - wide point in centre - rail outline straight - more width in nose than wide point back - maintains speed when stepping up - works easier in fatter/shoulder when stepping to nose - no big hip = easier to pivot - more rocker - less bogging rail - prevents nose diving when on the nose - wider nose and tail helps for general stability - >> sharp rail at back third - or narrowing tail can be better for advanced surfer Wide point at the back: for more critical wave position, turns in pocket, walks in pocket with lift under nose. Designed to be surfed in pocket. - wide point at back, in back third - reduces swing weight of board - easier rotation of board - narrow nose - closer to face and tighter into pocket when nose riding - more lift under nose - less likely to catch outside rail in critical turns - more responsive - good for carving - less rocker, flatter outline - board goes faster, carries speed better Pintail: - carve with speed - maintain line and hold drive on bigger steeper faster waves Square tail: - sometimes skip out if pushing too far or on wave with speed and power Tail kick up: - allows you to nose ride better - holding/locking into pocket Pintail for bigger/faster conditions, holds line Pig shape, wide point back, critical transition surfing e.g. point breaks Beach brake board: wide point in middle, good moves in sub-par waves.
After my last question regarding if I bought the right board, I bought a wider board (a Torq the Don XL 9.0) with a bit more volume and wider tail. Turning the board is a bit harder but it is way more stable, thx for the advise.
Hey!! That’s epic, glad to hear that the board is going well, I do find the wider tails a bit harder to turn as you said but the stability is a definite bonus haha🙏🤙
No worries at all mark! Stoked you’ve found it helpful, and definitely agree if we have a quiver some of the same principals can definitely be used to choose the right board for the day 🤙🤙
After 2 lessons I was catching most of the waves , making some small steps fore/aft and making shallow turns down the line. Instructor advised against buying a foam top. Instead she recommended something between 9-10 foot “ buoyancy in the center” wider nose and square tail. The first board you described seems like this style.
Thanks so much Ismail - always so good to hear stuff like this, really really appreciate the support, means a lot!!! And stoked it’s helpful for you 🙏🙏🙏🤙
I’ve been using longboards since I started surfing, then I switched to short boards but I never learned all the differences between shapes and tails, this is so helpful to me as I am about to buy a new longboard and get back to this amazing part of surfing! Keep it up man! ❤😊🎉
My local shaper made an in-betweener adjustment for me. Rather than going fully pinched traditional 50/50 rails he dropped them down slightly moving back on the board to 60/40. Not hard modern down rails but log rails made a bit more intermediate friendly. Get to know your local shapers, m8s!
This would explain why my nose riding hasn't progressed. My current board (9'3 with the wide point towards the back and square tail) is definitely not suited to my 4 years of surfing experience or the waves I surf (mushy at lot of the time). I was thinking of getting a new board anyway so it's nice to know I can now buy one closer to my skill level (intermediate) and save my current board for when I'm up to advanced level surfing. Thanks so much for breaking this down! Do you have a recommendation for a middle width longboard?
This is sooooo good to know!! My board definitely has the wide point to the back which might explain why I find nose riding easier on steeper/faster waves??? I feel the tail latching on way better compared to gentle waves. And I honestly struggle with these soft, kind waves. I feel like my surfing level decreases massive.
Hey!! Thanks for reaching out 🤙 would love to chat more - if you can send an email to - longboardcoaching@outlook.com We can chat more there, yewww!!! 🙏🤙
Great video and so true. After years of surfing, i have accumulated all of these different boards. However, i started with a pin tail 9 foot performance and wish i had started with a wide middle with rocker 10’. My current fav is the apex by cj nelson 9’ wide back
Thanks for this, Ben. At this point, I'm focusing on fundamentals and learning my new board (9'4" round nose pintail) at the beach areas I surf. There's a lot to consider, so this is a vid I'll save and rewatch.🤙
Hey Chris!! Apologies for the delayed response!! Wifi here in El Salvador is no good haha - yes it is the Nova Stella :) I think I replied to another comment of your just before 🤙🤙🙂
Ah man, I wish I had this video years ago when I started. Great info! I could have saved a bunch of money experimenting with different boards if I had this video sooner.
Hey!! Stoked it was useful, don’t worry I wish someone had explained this to me many years ago as well 😂 found out the hard way haha Appreciate the support 🙏🤙
Great advice and explanation, lucky me i just recently bought a new board ( beginner/advanced)that has the dimensions/ shape you just described and after using it now for about 4weeks i can't agree more to what you just explained, cheers from Portugal 🏄🤙
Great stuff Ben. Please clarify "rocker" by dimensions. What do you measure the nose lift at for a "flat" board versus a "highly rockered" board, also what about the same thing for the tail lift. Would 4" nose be "flat" nose rocker and would 5" (up to 6" ???) be a lot of rocker? Tail lift seems to be between 2.5" up to 4" and usually the opposite to the nose rocker. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks
Hello from Manhattan Beach, CA…. I’m returning to surfing after. 10 year break and want to buy a new board…. Are your boards made by South Coast? If so what model is the red (beginner intermediate) board. I can get SouthCoast shapes here in CA at CJ Nelson .
Hey Jeff!!! That’s epic, stoked you’re getting back into it, be sure to hit me up if you have any questions 🤙🤙🤙 And that model is the Nova Stella by South Coast surfboards - such an unreal board, makes noseriding super approachable and stable, good amount of rocker in the board as well so turning is nice on that one 🤙🤙
yeah 100% Without a doubt my 2 recommendations are either 1. The Nova Stella by South Coast surfboards or a In The Pink by Takayama! Both easy to surf, kind and friendly boards that can take you a long way in your surfing progression! Hope that somewhat helps, yewww !!! 🙏🙏🤙
Love your videos. I've got a question if you don't mind. I'm not a longboarder, though i'm tall (1,92/82kg) and I love the mixed styles of the long- and shortboard techniques. Now i've bought that 7'10" 21" 2-7/8" big rocker pointed nose board. It's really narrow and goes with 3 fins. My question is: is it possible to noseride these kind of boards or they are made only for carving, and what would you recommend to me to be able to ride it really well? Will be happy for any answer, thank you. 😊
Hi @BenConsidine, the link to your personal longboard model is not at the south coastal surfboard anymore. Second item, would you recommend longboard with teardrop concave or is this more for advanced? Lastly, I am looking to get a blank cut using a template on shape3d as there is not anyone near me that shapes longboard that you described, do you have a x3dx file with a longboard shape 9'6 80'ish liters that fit the description in your video (for beg-inter)
Hey!!! Oh epic that’s awesome, please ask any questions you have id be stoked to help out!! If it’s of any help as well feel free to check out the Longboarding Framework and community LongboardSessions.com I launched with a couple of other coaches, pretty much all of our teachings in one place just if that’s anything you’re after. But I’m always happy to answer questions here!! Yewww🙏🤙
Hey - it really depends on a few different things. From the sounds of it though 10ft and 22 wide is fairly long and narrow, may be more of a high performance board and not something I would necessarily start with. But it does definitely depend on your size also - sorry but i hope that's somewhat helpful! haha 🙏🤙
For anyone who may be looking for any longboard coaching video analysis, we're getting things up and running and I'd be stoked to assess and set up a plan for what you're looking to improve on! If you are at all interested please feel free to email at longboardcoaching@outlook.com
Cheers everyone!
Ben 🤙
Don't stop posting Ben. Just a friendly request. This will grow to 100k in 1-2 years.
So… the answer to all my problems is buying more boards hey? Good to know. Good to know.
No certainly not, just trying to provide some information which is hopefully helpful for some if they’re finding the equipment is making things challenging. Not for everyone and definitely not the only answer to our surfing problems 🙏🤙
Buy all of them
You’re videos are great. I just got back into surfing after about 15 years and I wish I had all of these tips when I was young. Not that my younger self would have listened anyway.
This was great information for beginners and intermediate surfers! if I can make recommendation for educational purposes. Have the boards standing upright and lined up against a wall, this would really show their differences standing side by side, also have a board rack to put the board on in order show the rocker, tail and nose shapes (good camera angle). Thanks, I wish I had someone pointing this out to me when I was a kid:)
The last thing I ever expected to hear you say was that you surfed Long Beach, New York. That’s where I live. 😊 The surf leaves much to be desired. The best thing I did for my surf progression was to go to a flatter rocker board. The high rocker longboard I had was holding me back from getting into these mushy waves here. Hope to see you out in our lineup one day. 🙏
Hey bro this is the ghost AT SANTA CRUZ COLD WATER SURFING CH. I love your channel I'm a longboard enthusiasts and old guy trying to get back up on the ride thank you for all your tips this is a ghost your friend on the Golden Shore in Santa Cruz California sending you Good Vibes and most excellent rides
What a great video. Informative. Concise. Thoughtful explanation of the "why" questions I had. I'm passing this along. Nice work.
Epic thanks so much Charlie! hope its able to help your surfing!!! If you have any further questions at all or wanted more depth/clarity on anything please don't hesitate to message - email is longboardcoaching@outlook.com if you did :) yewww cheers Charlie!
Hey Ben...perfect timing as I look to add another board to my quiver. Some very helpful info here which I have struggled to find on-line. Regards from Cape Town, RSA
Hey Stephen! Stoked it was helpful for you, hope the next board is epic for you!!! Always exciting adding something to the quiver, yewww! 🙏🤙
Great video. Def what I needed.
Great work in the commentary booth at the Bells Event. Tough job and you killed it
Board that works in lots of conditions => more practice time
- wide point in centre
- rail outline straight
- more width in nose than wide point back
- maintains speed when stepping up
- works easier in fatter/shoulder when stepping to nose
- no big hip = easier to pivot
- more rocker
- less bogging rail
- prevents nose diving when on the nose
- wider nose and tail helps for general stability
- >> sharp rail at back third
- or narrowing tail can be better for advanced surfer
Wide point at the back: for more critical wave position, turns in pocket, walks in pocket with lift under nose. Designed to be surfed in pocket.
- wide point at back, in back third
- reduces swing weight of board
- easier rotation of board
- narrow nose
- closer to face and tighter into pocket when nose riding
- more lift under nose
- less likely to catch outside rail in critical turns
- more responsive
- good for carving
- less rocker, flatter outline
- board goes faster, carries speed better
Pintail:
- carve with speed
- maintain line and hold drive on bigger steeper faster waves
Square tail:
- sometimes skip out if pushing too far or on wave with speed and power
Tail kick up:
- allows you to nose ride better
- holding/locking into pocket
Pintail for bigger/faster conditions, holds line
Pig shape, wide point back, critical transition surfing e.g. point breaks
Beach brake board: wide point in middle, good moves in sub-par waves.
Thanks Ben good information and confirmed I am on the right track to improving my longboard surfing, keep up the vids!
Yeww epic - stoked you're finding it helpful!! Appreciate it, yewww 🤙🙏
After my last question regarding if I bought the right board, I bought a wider board (a Torq the Don XL 9.0) with a bit more volume and wider tail. Turning the board is a bit harder but it is way more stable, thx for the advise.
Hey!! That’s epic, glad to hear that the board is going well, I do find the wider tails a bit harder to turn as you said but the stability is a definite bonus haha🙏🤙
Great explanations, cheers Ben. This also helps to pick the right board for the conditions on the day
No worries at all mark! Stoked you’ve found it helpful, and definitely agree if we have a quiver some of the same principals can definitely be used to choose the right board for the day 🤙🤙
After 2 lessons I was catching most of the waves , making some small steps fore/aft and making shallow turns down the line. Instructor advised against buying a foam top. Instead she recommended something between 9-10 foot “ buoyancy in the center” wider nose and square tail. The first board you described seems like this style.
Nice break down of the the boards Ben! Can’t wait to see you at Bells! Good luck mate! 🤙🏾🤙🏾
Cheers!!! Yewww 🙏🤙
Thanks for sharing enthusiastic knowledge ✨🤙
Thanks so much Ismail - always so good to hear stuff like this, really really appreciate the support, means a lot!!! And stoked it’s helpful for you 🙏🙏🙏🤙
I’ve been using longboards since I started surfing, then I switched to short boards but I never learned all the differences between shapes and tails, this is so helpful to me as I am about to buy a new longboard and get back to this amazing part of surfing! Keep it up man! ❤😊🎉
My local shaper made an in-betweener adjustment for me. Rather than going fully pinched traditional 50/50 rails he dropped them down slightly moving back on the board to 60/40. Not hard modern down rails but log rails made a bit more intermediate friendly. Get to know your local shapers, m8s!
This would explain why my nose riding hasn't progressed. My current board (9'3 with the wide point towards the back and square tail) is definitely not suited to my 4 years of surfing experience or the waves I surf (mushy at lot of the time). I was thinking of getting a new board anyway so it's nice to know I can now buy one closer to my skill level (intermediate) and save my current board for when I'm up to advanced level surfing. Thanks so much for breaking this down! Do you have a recommendation for a middle width longboard?
Great stuff Ben, thanks! Do you have experience and wisdom on 3-stage-rocker longboards?
This is sooooo good to know!! My board definitely has the wide point to the back which might explain why I find nose riding easier on steeper/faster waves??? I feel the tail latching on way better compared to gentle waves. And I honestly struggle with these soft, kind waves. I feel like my surfing level decreases massive.
Brilliant video Ben really informative! Appreciate it 👍
No worries at all! Super glad you found it useful 🙏🤙 yewww!
Hi Ben, thanks for another great video. I am a young competitor in Brazil, and i am learning a lot from your videos. Where can i talk more with you?
Hey!! Thanks for reaching out 🤙 would love to chat more - if you can send an email to -
longboardcoaching@outlook.com
We can chat more there, yewww!!! 🙏🤙
@@BenConsidine ok.
Great video and so true. After years of surfing, i have accumulated all of these different boards. However, i started with a pin tail 9 foot performance and wish i had started with a wide middle with rocker 10’. My current fav is the apex by cj nelson 9’ wide back
Thanks for this, Ben. At this point, I'm focusing on fundamentals and learning my new board (9'4" round nose pintail) at the beach areas I surf. There's a lot to consider, so this is a vid I'll save and rewatch.🤙
Epic!! Board sounds fun, hope you’re getting some waves, yewww!
U always get a thumbs up from me. Appreciate what youre trying to do with your channel. Thanks.
Thanks so much I really appreciate it - hope you’re finding it helpful!! Let me know if you have any suggestions 🙂 yewww 🙏🤙
thanks Ben! Like your vids, it improves mij long boarding. Greetz from the Netherlands
Your a lord🙏 cheers my bro! All my months of research just filed down to 1 video. Legend
Haha so good to hear, stoked it was helpful, really appreciate it, yewww!!
Love your video’s. What about fin choice. Please do something on 2+1 vs big single and the fin options.
Hi Ben. I am also keen to buy the red board in the video. Is it the Nova Stella from Southcoast Surfboards?
Hey Chris!! Apologies for the delayed response!! Wifi here in El Salvador is no good haha - yes it is the Nova Stella :) I think I replied to another comment of your just before 🤙🤙🙂
Ah man, I wish I had this video years ago when I started. Great info! I could have saved a bunch of money experimenting with different boards if I had this video sooner.
Hey!! Stoked it was useful, don’t worry I wish someone had explained this to me many years ago as well 😂 found out the hard way haha
Appreciate the support 🙏🤙
Great advice and explanation, lucky me i just recently bought a new board ( beginner/advanced)that has the dimensions/ shape you just described and after using it now for about 4weeks i can't agree more to what you just explained, cheers from Portugal 🏄🤙
So good!! Glad you’re loving it!!! Hope you’re getting waves over that way, yewww!
What board did you get?
@@aweandsome hi a 9ft Portuguese made Lacrau epoxy , 9x25x 3 1/4 83.9 liters 👍
@@ullischneider991 Thanks for the quick answer - appreciate it!
Fantastic video , thank you 🙏
No worries at all! So glad you’ve found it useful 🙏🤙 yewww!!
Nice explanations. Thank you
Still usefull vid Ben, thanks for ure enthusiasm !
Great stuff Ben. Please clarify "rocker" by dimensions. What do you measure the nose lift at for a "flat" board versus a "highly rockered" board, also what about the same thing for the tail lift. Would 4" nose be "flat" nose rocker and would 5" (up to 6" ???) be a lot of rocker? Tail lift seems to be between 2.5" up to 4" and usually the opposite to the nose rocker. I would appreciate your comments. Thanks
Hello from Manhattan Beach, CA…. I’m returning to surfing after. 10 year break and want to buy a new board…. Are your boards made by South Coast? If so what model is the red (beginner intermediate) board. I can get SouthCoast shapes here in CA at CJ Nelson .
Hey Jeff!!! That’s epic, stoked you’re getting back into it, be sure to hit me up if you have any questions 🤙🤙🤙
And that model is the Nova Stella by South Coast surfboards - such an unreal board, makes noseriding super approachable and stable, good amount of rocker in the board as well so turning is nice on that one 🤙🤙
Are there any specific models you can recommend for a beginner? Thanks
yeah 100%
Without a doubt my 2 recommendations are either 1. The Nova Stella by South Coast surfboards or a In The Pink by Takayama! Both easy to surf, kind and friendly boards that can take you a long way in your surfing progression! Hope that somewhat helps, yewww !!! 🙏🙏🤙
Which style fin do you recommend for the beginner longboard with the wide point in the middle?
I think the greenough 4a 9inch is hard to go past. Such a good design and diverse fin, would definitely be my go to 🤙🤙🤙
Hope that helps!!!
Good info, but could you suggest specific brands/models for beginner board with wide center and heavy rocker?
What do you think about the takayama in the pink? Who is it good for? What conditions?
Love your videos. I've got a question if you don't mind. I'm not a longboarder, though i'm tall (1,92/82kg) and I love the mixed styles of the long- and shortboard techniques. Now i've bought that 7'10" 21" 2-7/8" big rocker pointed nose board. It's really narrow and goes with 3 fins. My question is: is it possible to noseride these kind of boards or they are made only for carving, and what would you recommend to me to be able to ride it really well? Will be happy for any answer, thank you. 😊
Hi @BenConsidine, the link to your personal longboard model is not at the south coastal surfboard anymore.
Second item, would you recommend longboard with teardrop concave or is this more for advanced?
Lastly, I am looking to get a blank cut using a template on shape3d as there is not anyone near me that shapes longboard that you described, do you have a x3dx file with a longboard shape 9'6 80'ish liters that fit the description in your video (for beg-inter)
Love thiss
I'm switching to longboards because I prefer smaller surf. What about soft tops.
Greetings from philippines im a newbie hoping to learn how to ride a longboard
Hey!!! Oh epic that’s awesome, please ask any questions you have id be stoked to help out!!
If it’s of any help as well feel free to check out the Longboarding Framework and community LongboardSessions.com I launched with a couple of other coaches, pretty much all of our teachings in one place just if that’s anything you’re after. But I’m always happy to answer questions here!! Yewww🙏🤙
Hi Ben,
There’s a greenroom long board 22” wide 10ft long would this be a good starter board?
Hey - it really depends on a few different things. From the sounds of it though 10ft and 22 wide is fairly long and narrow, may be more of a high performance board and not something I would necessarily start with. But it does definitely depend on your size also - sorry but i hope that's somewhat helpful! haha 🙏🤙
@@BenConsidine thanks Ben ya that board sold so there a 9fter in working on that’s for the support
yeee brutha
yewww!! 🤙🙏
Hi Ben, what’s the name of the first board?
Also is it a 9’6?