A late comer to your vids as I started my DH journey a few weeks ago. Been playing vengeance and pushing into havoc to diversify in case a buddy wants to tank or something. Your videos are awesome and those new weak auras are top notch! I am still putting it together on how to time and do everything in Havoc as there is a lot going on. I watched an old video where you did "breath" then retreated "over the mobs" and "essence broke" while in midair. Haha was so dope. Anywho - ive joined the discord and am hoping to get some HDH training going before S4 drops! Thanks again
Thank you so much for the video :) Everytime I watch one of your videos, I get this sudden urge to play DH (which I have loved as a class since Legion). I am a bit discouraged as for a while now DH has been reliant on Inertia talent (or Momentum as it was before) , which makes it harder for me to get the hang of. I felt like the rotation nowadays is more complicated, which is weird, coming from a Rogue main haha. Thanks again for this.
Thanks, the hunt tip was super, one tip that i have is sometimes is better to spam immo aura if you are getting resets into a big pull that using 2-3 unbound chaos per charge(using one is fine)
Also ty for the guides, helped quite a bit catching back up with the changes in 10.2 and your discord has been very helpful with various tips and tricks, for example trinket usage.
Something to add for the inertia buff, technically you do not have to use fel rush within the unbound chaos window to still get the inertia buff. Granted, in combat you really should because if you do not you loose out on the empowered fel rush damage. However, if you are at the very end of a pull, and you push immo aura, you can hold that fel rush for the next pack and start off with inertia and two charges of immo aura. I have tested it, you can hold the charge for over 3 minutes and not loose it. Example: if you can convince ur raid leader to do a 30s pull timer, or after you release after a wipe cast immo aura, then you have free inertia on pull aka MORE DAMAGE! I havent tested if it works at the beginning of a key or not.
My min-max minigame is: 1. Throw Glaive manually only if BD is on cooldown. OR if by the time BD gets off cd, you'll have at least 1 charge. 2. Only stack 2 charges of Throw Glaive if you're going to use meta. 3. Use your charges on CD and ALWAYS use Blade Dance if you have a Throw Glaive charge.
What add-on are you using for your mouse? I lose my mouse on my screen all the time and think what you have for your mouse would help me find it faster
At 10:28, as you're explaining how to spread the dot from The Hunt, the dot markers on the dummies fall off, all except one. That one single dot keeps ticking for 6 extra seconds. Does that mean that the 4 set dot extension is only applied on the initial target of The Hunt? That would be 1) strange and 2) it would greatly diminish the value of the 4 set. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong.
Thanks for the recommendations jedith , sorry I don't speak English very well as for throwing guja I don't understand it well , do you mean that it is not necessary to throw the guja at every moment because it is thrown automatically in leaf dance .Or let's say if it is necessary to throw it before the opener ? or how it would be I didn't understand well please .
When to use fel barage and when to use essence break in the m+ build? Saw so many different builds but never an explenantion . Thx and awesome vid as usual ❤
Just found your channel and it’s helped me a lot. Could you recommend anyone with a similar style to you that teaches unholy pve? Found someone named biceps or something like that but couldn’t really get into his content.
Fel Barrage is good for Fortified and under 20 keys. Essence Break is better for high keys regardless of Tyrannical/Fortified. Fel Barrage has a nasty side effect of slowing your Blade Dance usage and therefore potentially causing you to cap on Throw Glaives and lose damage overall. Fel Barrage for less important, crazy AoE and Essence Break for more focused and important damage. Someone might be able to explain it better than me.
Optimization of fel barrage and or rage fire would be nice, i feel like with 3 targets or less even with 50% crit i get bigger ragefire using the 100% immo aura crit talent
@adsdsasdasdas8069 anything past 3 wouldn't need it yeah, talking purely like 1-3 targets where you can't rely on ragefire to crit enough to make it worth
thank you so much for your video it helped a lot! i used to manually click on the glaives for the same reason, thinking i was wasting them because tier set would give you "free" glaives, but i was wrong, i never really tested it in depth so i wasn't sure, but thank you for saying it!!!! 🦧 , same thing with the hunt, just walking around it gives them dots, that is insane!!!!!!!!!!!, i always made sure i would have the rush buff before hunt dot etc but now i don't have too as long as i get the buff after doing hunt or before doesn't matter, thank you so much, i was doing around 250k+ overall this should make me go beyond that haha
Sup Jedith! Do you use Essence Break on most of your keys, regardless of the week's affixes? You seem to be running EB a lot. I'm just wondering. I don't really like Fel Barrage and Glaive Tempest seems to be on the short end of the dps spectrum.
Okay this was actually very insightful with the throw glaive and the hunt. I did notice that the blade dance did spend a charge! But I had no idea that if im capped at 0 charges blade dance is just a blade dance with chances of throw glaive. The hunt was a huge one for me. I have been wondering why my hunt was so ineffective compare to others. Just that slight jiggle really changed things. But a question with the jiggle thing after the hunt has "hit" how many seconds do you have to spread them like you did in the video?
You have about 1 GCD to spread the hunt to up to 5 targets after the hit, so if you use the hunt straight into another ability when you can use a 2nd ability you can no longer spread the "shimmy" this assuming you hunt from range and the GCD from the hunt is gone
Can you play Demon Hunter and still clear "highish" level content if you don't ever use the eye beam or metamorphosis moves (because the demon you transform into looks really rubbish)?
Nice video, especially for the 2 set information. I wasn't sure if it is buggy or if i just didn't understand it right. Perfect channel for me as a DH main! (Even tho i mostly do pvp^^)
I have tried fel rushing after the hunt with unbound up and it does not modify my dots damage. Am I doing something wrong? The only time I see the damage of the dot increasing is if the hunt is applied with inertia before you use it.
I have a question, in most havoc guide videos you see the essence break combo with meta set up as vengeful retreat, essence break, death sweep, meta, death sweep. In most of the top logs you see vr after essence break however. So as a newer havoc player I was wondering which sequence is correct.
VR doesn't trigger the gcd (except on fel rush) so you can essb at basically the same time, if it's a few millisecond difference it won't matter in real life.
Personally, I think essb is the best build currently for mythic plus outside of a few dungeons like black rook hold and maybe waycrest. The priority damage this season is very important and bosses are still a big checkpoint even on fortified. The only dungeon I’m currently having even remote issues with the trash is Fall before the second boss. Was in a 26 last night and the amount of damage going out in that trash is probably close to double any other trash this season
the hunt and glaive ones are new to me. I kept targeting the furthest mob and sometimes getting aggro cos the tank hadn't got enough aggro on it yet. Thanks for the guide
Extensive testing, every blade dance with no charge was playing the sound of throw glaive and decreasing the hunt cd, moreso than if I had charges wasting away
The abilty to gain innertia is definately bugged. I've immo'd, died, and fel rushed after res to run back and gotten the intertia buff, I've also had downtime and still gained inertia well over 12s
Sadly, whenever I decide to watch this gentleman videos every patch, i find myself wasting sparks to crafts this and that! and then later on its all a deferent story!
Try watching at the start of the season instead of half way through. Can’t help that priority is different when sparks are limited vs not limited / buffs & nerfs happen Etc.
the throw glaive thing you say is just wrong, you should ALWAYS throw glaives manually to get the free proc. Its less damage but its free and the bleed damage is cumulative. Stone who is rank 2 havoc does this
@@Jedithtv Regardless of what Shad is saying, you should try playing around keeping TG at 0 stacks before you use blade dance for yourself and you will feel the difference. It's actually a huge increase. What the "%100 damage TG" crew is missing is that the free proc you get if you have no stacks counts toward decreasing The Hunt cooldown. Soulscar dmg is cumulative, the more the merrier. In your dmg breakdown in this video your soulscar is 7.6% and it should be more than 9% if you are playing your spec optimally. It really does add up.
About the throw glaive I noticed this IMMEDIATELY after getting my 2 set and just took throw glaive off my bars completely. It is very important that everyone reads tooltips if you dont read them your setting yourself up for failure. It is one thing to watch a video to learn a rotation but its an even better thing to watch a video and also read the tooltips to understand everything yourself!
there are still situations where you would want to press it manually so throwing it out of your bar is not the best tip ^^ But yes for general gameplay you almost never press it anymore
To be honest Fel Rush is really bad ability for rotation compared to other builds. The problem with wow is ppls is lying to themselves that meta is the only way to do damage (when meta most of the time barelly do more than the other builds). It is kinda sad how the meta forcing everyone to be the same, every demon hunter, every war, every class.... it's kinda making the tallent trees pointless. I would sudgest everyone to play as they like, not how they been foced to, and avoid the toxic meta chasers. About the rest of the video how the hunt works was great.
Can confirm this is cap, I randomly find Jed in pugs every once in a while and he's always been havoc since I can remember (yes even when it was pretty ass comparatively)
Would love to see a guide of your thought process when running fel barrage in a key, where to fit it in, which CDs to delay while it's active, etc.
This and just maybe a couple keys with voice over on thoughts and rotation explanation 🙏🏻
He already said that he hates fel barrage.
This comment didn't age well 😂
A late comer to your vids as I started my DH journey a few weeks ago. Been playing vengeance and pushing into havoc to diversify in case a buddy wants to tank or something. Your videos are awesome and those new weak auras are top notch! I am still putting it together on how to time and do everything in Havoc as there is a lot going on. I watched an old video where you did "breath" then retreated "over the mobs" and "essence broke" while in midair. Haha was so dope. Anywho - ive joined the discord and am hoping to get some HDH training going before S4 drops! Thanks again
Thank you so much for the video :) Everytime I watch one of your videos, I get this sudden urge to play DH (which I have loved as a class since Legion). I am a bit discouraged as for a while now DH has been reliant on Inertia talent (or Momentum as it was before) , which makes it harder for me to get the hang of. I felt like the rotation nowadays is more complicated, which is weird, coming from a Rogue main haha. Thanks again for this.
Thanks, the hunt tip was super, one tip that i have is sometimes is better to spam immo aura if you are getting resets into a big pull that using 2-3 unbound chaos per charge(using one is fine)
Good tip!
I would also like to see a guide on how to use fel barrage properly. Do we use it together with meta? What do we stack trinkets with etc.
@Jedith I have watched all of your videos and while not considered an elitest I have learned a great deal from you. Your content is fantastic.
thank you so much!
Oh my god, the tip about spreading The Hunt dot was :O
Also ty for the guides, helped quite a bit catching back up with the changes in 10.2 and your discord has been very helpful with various tips and tricks, for example trinket usage.
Always happy to help
Something to add for the inertia buff, technically you do not have to use fel rush within the unbound chaos window to still get the inertia buff. Granted, in combat you really should because if you do not you loose out on the empowered fel rush damage. However, if you are at the very end of a pull, and you push immo aura, you can hold that fel rush for the next pack and start off with inertia and two charges of immo aura. I have tested it, you can hold the charge for over 3 minutes and not loose it. Example: if you can convince ur raid leader to do a 30s pull timer, or after you release after a wipe cast immo aura, then you have free inertia on pull aka MORE DAMAGE!
I havent tested if it works at the beginning of a key or not.
This is a bug so not something to rely on
My min-max minigame is:
1. Throw Glaive manually only if BD is on cooldown. OR if by the time BD gets off cd, you'll have at least 1 charge.
2. Only stack 2 charges of Throw Glaive if you're going to use meta.
3. Use your charges on CD and ALWAYS use Blade Dance if you have a Throw Glaive charge.
What add-on are you using for your mouse? I lose my mouse on my screen all the time and think what you have for your mouse would help me find it faster
This was awesome as I'm a new player. Ty and subbed
At 10:28, as you're explaining how to spread the dot from The Hunt, the dot markers on the dummies fall off, all except one. That one single dot keeps ticking for 6 extra seconds. Does that mean that the 4 set dot extension is only applied on the initial target of The Hunt? That would be 1) strange and 2) it would greatly diminish the value of the 4 set. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong.
That should be the hunt’s leech debuff
Im fairly new to WoW still but i like ur UI set up, could you make a video on how to do addons and set them up?
Thanks for the recommendations jedith , sorry I don't speak English very well as for throwing guja I don't understand it well , do you mean that it is not necessary to throw the guja at every moment because it is thrown automatically in leaf dance .Or let's say if it is necessary to throw it before the opener ? or how it would be I didn't understand well please .
Man @Jedith - How do i get this exact UI setup?? with the nameplates, skill-bar and health bars on enemies and your character?
Much love!
What is the curser tracker addon?
I want my cursor to be exactly like yours, with the green thingy running behind and the circle around it, how does it work? THANKS!
When to use fel barage and when to use essence break in the m+ build? Saw so many different builds but never an explenantion . Thx and awesome vid as usual ❤
Just found your channel and it’s helped me a lot. Could you recommend anyone with a similar style to you that teaches unholy pve? Found someone named biceps or something like that but couldn’t really get into his content.
Which i should use fel barrage or essence break on mythics? 😮 Fel barrage feels weird to use
Fel Barrage is good for Fortified and under 20 keys. Essence Break is better for high keys regardless of Tyrannical/Fortified. Fel Barrage has a nasty side effect of slowing your Blade Dance usage and therefore potentially causing you to cap on Throw Glaives and lose damage overall. Fel Barrage for less important, crazy AoE and Essence Break for more focused and important damage. Someone might be able to explain it better than me.
@@giantslug6969 wow thanks for the answer that was helpfull! 🫡
Thanks for the tips! I love your UI, nameplates and font, do you have a video on how to set that up? If not can you make one pleasee i need it asap xD
Whats the cursor add on called?
Optimization of fel barrage and or rage fire would be nice, i feel like with 3 targets or less even with 50% crit i get bigger ragefire using the 100% immo aura crit talent
The 100% immo aura crit talent is only for single target though?
@adsdsasdasdas8069 anything past 3 wouldn't need it yeah, talking purely like 1-3 targets where you can't rely on ragefire to crit enough to make it worth
9:30 @Jedith thank you VERY much.
Noone explained this one.. this helps ALOT
Thanks my dude! Always looking for ways to improve my play.
Great info! Thanks! Will look for your videos in the future!
Yo, thanks, i'm getting started on DH now, that we're such cool tips!
Glad I could help!
thank you so much for your video it helped a lot! i used to manually click on the glaives for the same reason, thinking i was wasting them because tier set would give you "free" glaives, but i was wrong, i never really tested it in depth so i wasn't sure, but thank you for saying it!!!! 🦧 , same thing with the hunt, just walking around it gives them dots, that is insane!!!!!!!!!!!, i always made sure i would have the rush buff before hunt dot etc but now i don't have too as long as i get the buff after doing hunt or before doesn't matter, thank you so much, i was doing around 250k+ overall this should make me go beyond that haha
Sup Jedith! Do you use Essence Break on most of your keys, regardless of the week's affixes? You seem to be running EB a lot. I'm just wondering. I don't really like Fel Barrage and Glaive Tempest seems to be on the short end of the dps spectrum.
Same for me, and I became so good at essb backflip its addictive now
Yep! I just prefer essb and it provides more boss/prio dam
thank you bro! this is very insightful. Wish I could get more such videos in other specs too! keep up the great work
Glad it was helpful!
Okay this was actually very insightful with the throw glaive and the hunt. I did notice that the blade dance did spend a charge! But I had no idea that if im capped at 0 charges blade dance is just a blade dance with chances of throw glaive.
The hunt was a huge one for me. I have been wondering why my hunt was so ineffective compare to others. Just that slight jiggle really changed things.
But a question with the jiggle thing after the hunt has "hit" how many seconds do you have to spread them like you did in the video?
You have about 1 GCD to spread the hunt to up to 5 targets after the hit, so if you use the hunt straight into another ability when you can use a 2nd ability you can no longer spread the "shimmy" this assuming you hunt from range and the GCD from the hunt is gone
hey man i dont think youll see this but im wondering how can i get my hud like urs ive been searching everywhere and i cant find the addon or weakaura
amazing info, terrific vibes, wonderful video! tysm!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice guide, can u tell me ur smg font addon?
Can you play Demon Hunter and still clear "highish" level content if you don't ever use the eye beam or metamorphosis moves (because the demon you transform into looks really rubbish)?
Which havoc weakaura do u use?
This iteration of havoc looks so strong. With Vengeance in a strong spot at tank, Demon Hunter is a must play this season!
Wait til Tuesday. We will be back on the bleachers watching the other big boys play.
Nice video, especially for the 2 set information. I wasn't sure if it is buggy or if i just didn't understand it right.
Perfect channel for me as a DH main! (Even tho i mostly do pvp^^)
Glad it helped!
Thanks for the tips bro! How do you get that green dot inside your cursor circle? I have the circle already
It’s an addon called cursortrail
Thanks bro
Learned a lot from this video thanks
Add-on for the cursor circle and green orb? I need this so bad 😊
Yooooo you changed my whole outlook on the hunt. Ty!
NICE!
inertia better than momentum for pvp?
Great tips, especially Fel Rush over Chaos Strike as an AOE filler.
Also, what mouse tracker/addon is that?
looks like cursor trails.
@@bradmiles1984 thanks!
I have tried fel rushing after the hunt with unbound up and it does not modify my dots damage.
Am I doing something wrong? The only time I see the damage of the dot increasing is if the hunt is applied with inertia before you use it.
unbound has nothing to do with it. dmg modifiers like momentum/inertia or haste from furious gaze would change the dmg
Is it possible to get your import code for your UI?
Just what I needed, thanks!
Hey is there a place where I can get your UI and WA
I'm having a hell of a time in lower keys getting the hunt to do significant damage when everything dies so fast.
broo how i get your cursor of the mouse for wow :) y love it
Hey, how is your blade dance doing rainbow trails? :3
Can you do a video about your new updated UI? It looks really clean
I have a question, in most havoc guide videos you see the essence break combo with meta set up as vengeful retreat, essence break, death sweep, meta, death sweep. In most of the top logs you see vr after essence break however. So as a newer havoc player I was wondering which sequence is correct.
It’s better to not waste the EB window on the two global it costs to VR and get back
Ideally you VR over the pack/boss and use Essb before you land, and when you land you do the blade dance
VR doesn't trigger the gcd (except on fel rush) so you can essb at basically the same time, if it's a few millisecond difference it won't matter in real life.
Your videos are the best, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Wow, that dot spreading advice in The Hunt is HUGE!
It helps a lot with getting it spread!
Is there a max number of targets?
@@afazool123 good question!
@@afazool123I believe the hunt caps at 5
seen you shooting this i walk right by LOL. never expected to find it
Lol are you in the video?!
isnt it bezzer to play fel barrage in m+ btw thank you for videos ❤
Still completely torn between tempest barrage and essb but loving being able to use them all effectively
all work well! I played some keys with glaive tempest yesterday and it was chill
Personally, I think essb is the best build currently for mythic plus outside of a few dungeons like black rook hold and maybe waycrest. The priority damage this season is very important and bosses are still a big checkpoint even on fortified. The only dungeon I’m currently having even remote issues with the trash is Fall before the second boss. Was in a 26 last night and the amount of damage going out in that trash is probably close to double any other trash this season
What mouse cursor addon is that?
Too easy to forget about SoF for sure, and I ha no idea about the hunt shimmy. Hidden tech is fun
the hunt and glaive ones are new to me. I kept targeting the furthest mob and sometimes getting aggro cos the tank hadn't got enough aggro on it yet. Thanks for the guide
Extensive testing, every blade dance with no charge was playing the sound of throw glaive and decreasing the hunt cd, moreso than if I had charges wasting away
Do what you want
@@Jedithtv i mean is there an argument for throw glaive for just the cdr procs on hunt even though it’s not a full damage throw glaive??
Or are you saying that’s also the same either way
well done and well put, thank you.
You’re welcome, glad you enjoyed it
Спасибо, товарищ!
And I was pressing manually throw glave😢 , but don’t get me wrong, I was still doing in 17-18keys with 450ilvl like 160-170-180k overall.
The abilty to gain innertia is definately bugged. I've immo'd, died, and fel rushed after res to run back and gotten the intertia buff, I've also had downtime and still gained inertia well over 12s
LOL that is definitely not intended and will be fixed dw
@@Jedithtv keep it on the low homie!
really good tips thx
Happy to help!
''do a little shimmy'' to spread the dot from the hunt just blew my mind
cool dh tricks
thats plater? if yes can i have the string for the nameplates pls
i dont get how do u spread the hunt just by walking in the middle of the pack?
Wdym? If you hunt and then just run through targets you missed it still spreads if you do it directly after.
thanks for the tips 👍
No problem 👍
havocs love you Jedith!
aw thanks!
Thanks again, Jedith!
no problem!
That shimmy knowledge was HOT!
What’s that mouse cursor mod?
Cursor Trail addon
Sadly, whenever I decide to watch this gentleman videos every patch, i find myself wasting sparks to crafts this and that! and then later on its all a deferent story!
Try watching at the start of the season instead of half way through. Can’t help that priority is different when sparks are limited vs not limited / buffs & nerfs happen Etc.
can anyone tell me what nameplates he's using? absolutely love them
That's Naowh's plater
@@gabrielbayer4571 do you know where i can get the download for it?
the throw glaive thing you say is just wrong, you should ALWAYS throw glaives manually to get the free proc. Its less damage but its free and the bleed damage is cumulative. Stone who is rank 2 havoc does this
Shad who is the guide writer for wowhead disagrees. Stone also told people to craft flaming cowl in season 1
@@Jedithtv Regardless of what Shad is saying, you should try playing around keeping TG at 0 stacks before you use blade dance for yourself and you will feel the difference. It's actually a huge increase. What the "%100 damage TG" crew is missing is that the free proc you get if you have no stacks counts toward decreasing The Hunt cooldown. Soulscar dmg is cumulative, the more the merrier. In your dmg breakdown in this video your soulscar is 7.6% and it should be more than 9% if you are playing your spec optimally. It really does add up.
Ant tips for Witherbark’s Branch trinket?
Eat two orbs immediately and wait ~5-7 seconds to pick up the last one
5 Tips i would say 5th December will be the best tips with the punished nerfs
how to do single target dmg in raid?
Great stuff
thanks!
how to properly use Witherbranch?
soak 2 then 1
Can we get a damage comparison video with a no mover build and a inertia build to see the damage difference?
Try it and see What u do
About the throw glaive I noticed this IMMEDIATELY after getting my 2 set and just took throw glaive off my bars completely. It is very important that everyone reads tooltips if you dont read them your setting yourself up for failure. It is one thing to watch a video to learn a rotation but its an even better thing to watch a video and also read the tooltips to understand everything yourself!
there are still situations where you would want to press it manually so throwing it out of your bar is not the best tip ^^
But yes for general gameplay you almost never press it anymore
just dinged one last night they seem to be great and i think i found a replacement for my rogue XD
I'm actually really scared of the dh nerf that's coming next reset. Hopefully havoc will be atleast at others dd's level
Shouldn't be too bad. Maybe a slight aoe nerf
“Do a little shimmy”
I hate momentum build, that fel dash and having to move back to boss just feels weird to me.
Throw glaive > Chaos strike
Hey my Boy @Jedith, did you know there is a bug and there isn't even 12 Seconds time frame but an unlimited frame to spend your unbound chaos ? 😏
I would not create habits of playing around a bug when it's most definitely going to get fixed
Highest damage I've had so far is 1 million dps
YEET!!!
YAWYEEET
To be honest Fel Rush is really bad ability for rotation compared to other builds. The problem with wow is ppls is lying to themselves that meta is the only way to do damage (when meta most of the time barelly do more than the other builds). It is kinda sad how the meta forcing everyone to be the same, every demon hunter, every war, every class.... it's kinda making the tallent trees pointless. I would sudgest everyone to play as they like, not how they been foced to, and avoid the toxic meta chasers. About the rest of the video how the hunt works was great.
Nerf for dh already next week in patch notes
can i have ur elvui export ?
Auto attack dash meta is not fun to play at all
May want to consider a different class
Just roll DH, done... no need for 12'min vid
yet you still watched it
FIRST COMMENT BABY!!!!
Any real wow raiders know exactly what my photo is.
fotm player making guide is rly funny next patch u play the next OP char
HUH? I've been making havoc videos for the past 4 years
Can confirm this is cap, I randomly find Jed in pugs every once in a while and he's always been havoc since I can remember (yes even when it was pretty ass comparatively)