How SUGAR RAY Nearly WALKED AWAY From Their BIGGEST HIT!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- The bizarre song that was an anomaly on the band's second record that saved Sugar Ray's career.
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Discover the fascinating journey of Sugar Ray, the Orange County band that defied the odds to create their iconic hit "Fly." From their humble beginnings to near break-ups, uncover the hidden stories and challenges that shaped their rise to fame.
Chapter Highlights:
Early Beginnings:
The band's name inspiration from boxer Sugar Ray Leonard
Frontman Mark McGrath's childhood and musical influences
Formation and early struggles of the band under the name Shrinky Dinx
Breakthrough Moments:
Creative marketing strategies and early setbacks
The pivotal role of producer David Khan
The unexpected creation of "Fly" and its initial reception
Rise to Fame:
The massive success of "Fly" and its impact on the band's career
Media skepticism and the "one-hit wonder" label
The band's diverse musical influences and evolving sound
Challenges and Triumphs:
Overcoming industry pressures and internal conflicts
Strategic moves that kept the band relevant and successful
Reflections on their legacy and continued influence in music
Join us as we dive deep into the untold history of Sugar Ray and their hit song "Fly." Learn how they navigated the rocky path to success, proving that with creativity and resilience, anything is possible.
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I remember when the game Road Rash came out on N64... it had their song "Mean Machine" on it. It surprised me that it was the same band that was on the radio with "Fly" at the time.
Me too! Exactly! 😂
Same! I thought there had to be 2 bands named Sugar Ray lol
OMG same here! And the other song "Hit the club".
I had Road Rash on PS1 and remembered it being the song "Speed Home California" although I could be mixing it up as my dad bought me the CD because I liked it so much
Thank you for the post! 👍🏻✌🏼😊
Only half of their first album was worth listening to in their career.
I couldn't finish this video. it turns out sugar is boring as hell
Their heavy stuff still kicks ass.
AGREED
First heard "Fly" at our local minor league team's game when the second baseman used it as his walk up song. Wasn't too long after it the video popped up on TV everywhere. I also remember wondering if it was Vanilla ice at the time, so I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one!
Mean machine on Bevis and Butthead was awesome
I remember first hearing Sugar Ray on the soundtrack of Escape From LA, not a great movie but the soundtrack had a lot of great alternative and hard rock tracks.
10 seconds down.
Toadies had a good song on there also
I’ve seen Sugar Ray a few times on the county fair/casino circuit. Mark McGrath is wild and a lot of fun
They always seemed like they'd be fun live
Unless you call them Sugar Gay 😅
@@Jaheguru spend all day thinking that one up?
@@apanchernope it’s from a clip that’s literally used in this video. 1:59 look up the full vid if you’re curious. Otherwise move on and have a nice day.
@@Jaheguru I remember that video 🤣
Love me some Lemonade & Brownies! Great songs like Iron Mic, BBW and Mean Machine. The breakdown in Dance Party U.S.A is fucking awesome. 😍🤘
"Hey, I got your band's tape in the pizza box and I'd like you guys to come down to the studio and wax my Porche."
I saw them twice at Spring Fest, in Pensacola, and they put on a good show. They even busted out songs from Lemonade and Brownies.
Lemonade and brownies was killer front to back at that time. Classic
Band is horrible
I never knew that the girl on the cover of 'Lemonade & Brownies' was Nicole Eggert. You learn something every day...
I remember hearing floored after fly came out and thought it wasn't too bad, a lot heavier than I expected. Fly wasn't bad either it was just poppy and forgettable.
Mark Sayers McGrath (and the band) appears in the movie Fathers' Day (1997) and not just as cameo,. Mark has a big role in the movie.
If i remember well in the movie also The Muffs appears (RIP Kim Shattuck).
I am amazed at how Sugar Ray could do both Nu Metal type music and do top 40/pop rock, too. Even though I do enjoy their more pop rock type albums, Lemonade and Brownies just can't be beat.
Not sure if people buy albums anymore, but having the one released track sound like nothing else on the album was definitely a 90s thing. So many albums of mine got tossed after recording one (or maybe two) songs on tape. For the most part, albums released in the 70s and 80s had similar sounding tracks. You either loved it or hated it!
Sugar gay
David Cohn tried to do the impossible, steal the Sublime sound ..... instead, we found out how a soulless Sublime might sound..... "Fly" just proved how special Bradley Nowell really was
I remember being a kid listening to the radio and when sugar ray came on it was like a breath of fresh air. Granted I was 7 years old but fly was such a unique song that it encusplated my fantasy of being on the beach away from the desert I lived in. I was surprised to learn when I was older that they were hated and were considered a joke
My friend and I seen Sugar Ray at a concert at Coney Island High on St. Marks and it was a damn good show. I still have the pictures from that night. We got to talk to him for a bit and he was really nice! Love them!
I have both their albums and I enjoyed them.
Mean Machine on of my favorite tracks on their earlier album.
You didn't "seen" Sugar Ray. You "saw" Sugar Ray.
I notice many people misuse this word a lot lately. I wonder why.
@@andydhillon1977 It's like people saying woman instead of women and vice versa. Once you notice it, you see it everywhere.
I wasn’t really a big fan of Sugar Ray, but I always thought Mark McGrath was really handsome 😊
Typical comment for a female from that era....Looks came first & music didn't matter ......
I was born in the 90’s, I’m allowed to think a man is attractive and not like his music 🙂
@@KaylaHiggins92 I'm going to allow it. This time...
@@edpoe1108 your going to allow it,okay 🙂 Mark McGrath was handsome but I hated his music. I just said it again, what are you gonna do about it ?😂
I was lucky enough to catch probably all the bands that emerged in the mid-90's when they were paying their dues in the So Cal clubs. Shrinky Dinks were one of those I really enjoyed but they did seem likely the less likely to break out. Them and Incubus surprised me about the heights they reached.
If you see Mark McGrath on the street he likes to be called sugar Ray
Lemonade and brownies was their best album
These are always the best. Thanks for another great episode
I was 10 when this album came out and it was the first cassette tape I ever owned. I bought it because I loved the song "Fly" but I honestly loved the entire album and was never dissapointed by it. I have fond memories of playing this album with my parents in the car and my Dad turning it off when the song "Cash" came on. Yes, I was 10 years old haha.
Damn, a story about Sugar Ray is lot more wholesome than i thought. Especially the video with their moms, that's just adorable.
I only know em from that Nick Mullen video of him getting punched for saying Sugar Ray sucks.
13:00 ....sorry but its hard to take a dude seriously when he's wearing contour makeup and he's not in a Glam Metal band
Mark is ten years older than I thought he was. He's almost a boomer!
I mean when I see him on TV now, he looks pretty "used hard, and put away wet"... he was certainly easier on the eyes back in the day
@@better.better His problem is that he fights tooth and nail with time instead of growing old gracefully. He's had a ton of cosmetic surgery and Botox injections and it looks awful. Same thing as Micky Rourke
Almost quit - Damn! Soooo close! Well, our gain is Entertainment Tonight’s . . . um, uh, loss? I’m not sure what a net loss for Entertainment Tonight looks like 😅
Lemonade and Brownies was one of my favorite albums. I lost interest the more pop they became.
Sugar ray. Theor music eas as cringe worthy as Marks face lifts.
I heard of them through mean machine, and I really liked its punkyness. So it surprised me (at the time) when all the sudden they were poppy. Nowadays, I appreciate the exploration in different genres.
No one liked him
I thought Mean Machine was kind of a hit. Love that song.
SUGAR GAY
Those guys were the kings of summer for a lil while there
L&B is their best album.
The band caught a lot of shit for going poppier because of Fly despite they started out kinda wild and heavy punky and nu-metal like at the start.. I can appreciate both sides of the band tbh. I've actually been following their bassist, Murphy Karges, on youtube since the pandemic... he was talking about Sugar Ray songs, breaking them down, playing and teaching bass for Sugar Ray and other bands/artists he liked... cool guy.
Wow first on a sugar ray vid. Strange way to be first. Not expected
Congratulations
I've honestly never liked the song Fly. It's catchy, but something about it annoyed the heck out of me from the 1st listen. Oh well, I'm sure my taste in music would annoy some people. That's the good thing, there's plenty of music for everyone.
Sugar Ray recently played a sold out show to over 70,000 diehard fans. The epic concert took place inside Mark McGrath’s head.
I was there, it was actually more like 150,000. They weren't all fans though, a couple of guys tried to heckle Mark but he jumped from the stage and knocked them out cold. It was the coolest and the crowd went wild with cheers.
Love me some Sugar Gay! 🥵
Have to agree with Mark on this one. Such a terrible and generic song. I call these songs "fly high in the sky" songs because there are so many of them, they are generic AF with only the most basic lyrics. Please stop with the "fly high in the sky" songs and put a little effort into writing something at least mildly creative.
It’s so easy yet…you don’t have a hit just like it yet right? 🤣
It’s wild that’s the history. They seemed to just kinda appear and make dropping big poppy hits easy. And they were in a quiet way everywhere. Played constantly to this day but it wasn’t blatant because the music was so casual. So it’s wild to hear they really struggled.
there's a struggle behind the success of every band
Ha! I used to have bleached tips like his, not because of McGrath as I was going to beauty school at the time and during our down time a few of the girls would do it. Btw, those were probably the best two years of my life, being one of three straight guys in 85 class size of girls/women. Those were the days!
I really like Sugar Ray, and now I have found the connection. What we lack in skill we make up for in craftiness.
Lemonade and Brownies is such a fun album that I keep in rotation.
They were a fun band.
BRA, errrrrr, BRUH! 😅
Sugar gay
Funny true story: My friend and I, both of us musicians, went out to a club in downtown Dallas called "Trees" to see one of our guitar heroes Steve Vai. The opening act was Sugar Ray. My friend and I were in the VIP section which was right next to, and slightly higher than the stage. Sugar Ray gets on stage, and after a couple of songs, Mark McGrath jumps onto the railing of the VIP area right in front of me. He proceeds to place his hand on the back of my head, pulls my forehead against his, and sings in my face. All I could do was smile and think, "Nah. This isn't gay at all...". After Mark jumps back down to the stage, I look at my friend, and he's laughing his ass off, and all I could say was, "Man... Fuck you!", and laugh with him. After their set, they came to the VIP section with us to watch Steve Vai play, so we hung out for a while, and they were all pretty cool dudes. Of course the highlight for me and my friend was getting to meet Steve Vai.
*Edit* By the way, this was before Sugar Ray's second album came out, so their whole set was punk and metal with McGrath doing some "cookie monster" vocals even. I recognized one song called "Mean Machine" which I'd seen the video for.
Sugar Ray are just awesome and are a perfect soundtrack for summer and good times 😊
especially the song Under The Sun.
Why have you neglected Propagandi? Canada's Best Political Punk band, probably North America's Best. They are awesome
I always assumed it, but now that I've heard all this, Every....single...Bit of their bio screams "talentless insecure posers"
I would have never guessed Mark McGrath would have been the guy that wanted to stay heavy. I absolutely hated Fly, and their pandering to 14 year old girls.
Sugar Ray is one of those bands that did what they had to do to make it to the top. Much like the Goo Goo Dolls, they would write a couple of poppy songs to get on the radio, and then the rest of the album would sound nothing like the singles. When you listen to songs like "Fly" and "Every Morning", you think you're buying a pop album, and then you hear metal songs like "Mean Machine" and it's hard to even believe it's the same band. You can call them sell outs because they damn sure sold out a lot of places over the years. I have a lot of respect for them. They probably got more people to listen to metal than any of the metal bands did.
Floored was a great album, the only song on that album I wasn't a fan of was "FLY", go figure LOL
LOL someone thought he was Vanilla Ice? C'mon. really?
Great video essay. I love this song and it’s one of the most memorable hits when I was a kid in the 90s. Also, now i dont see Mark as a deuche anymore, he actually seems like an incredible marketer in his own right. Please do a part II 💎
The first song on "floored" called rpm is one hell of a banger. The music video doesn't do the actual song justice
A fun band. And McGrath is a very nice guy, super-cool and very friendly.
Wait, Sugar Ray and Crazy Town aren't the same group? what!
I thought this was about Psychedelic Bee!
It is mentioned in the story
@@rnrtruestories Lol, should have watched the whole thing before I posted😂
@@alhollywood6486happens to the best of us.
Ay, the lil yachty record rocks. They're as nice as sublime
"...flirt with breakdancing." Relatable
A band named Shrinky Dink signed a 1 million dollar deal based on a video for a song called Caboose?
Looks like McGrath really cashed in to afford all that bad facial work
You make your podcast so interesting it's amazing I just wanted to let you know that Jesus loves you
God these guys were just utter rubbish🤢🤮🤮🤮🤧😴🤮🤮🤧
"RPM" and "Breathe" still go hard!
Lemonade and Brownies is still in rotation for me.
That's it? What have they done in the last 20 years?
Carona Del Mark Highschool.... lol
I like their heavy music!🤘😁🤘
i thought they only had one or two songs??!
People love to hate beautiful people
0:45 .....BRA, errrrrr, BRUH! 😅
11:15 .....wait, tf? 🧐
16:25 lol love it
Christ, if they were called "The Tories", then they would have NEVER done anything in the UK.
❤
Answer The Phone is an underrated Sugar Ray song, it's like Sugar Ray going pop-punk
Mark loved them young.
I remember the different versions of "Fly" on radio back in the day, without Super Cat, and without the rapping bit or even without the heavy guitars... it was ridiculous. Those elements are part of what makes the song... the song... it's a Reggae pop song... why is cutting out the reggae part necessary, or the rapping and heavy guitar section bad... just weird decisions all around.
The version that got play here on Kiss 98.5 (WKSE) was the one without Supercat.
Great video.
Fun fact..mark mrgraf was named after macgruff the crime dog . His uncle was smokey the bear. He turned a young fan into a dog in a magic trick.
Scruff McGruff
Chicago Illinois
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let's agree to one thing: one-hit wonders they were not... i think every morning is their best song though
Not sure how not liking rap music makes you "racist". 😂 Interesting video, bhai. I had no clue about McGrath's history. I just assumed he was just some jock.
Their Howard Stern Show appearances are entirely responsible for their breakout success. Cannot be overstated.
The dude narrating is Ai right? Like that's 100% a soulless look behind those eyes isn't it?
Jealous much?
McGrath looked like he was in a Boy Band or sold jeans at Abercrombie or The Gap in the mall which is why in the late 90's he became the face of that band.....FACTS