Vibes... [Maggie] 17-YEAR-OLD STUDENT PILOT LANDS HER PLANE WITHOUT A WHEEL! ruclips.net/video/B229-KLudTo/видео.htmlsi=b2PNcOOrZWSL7tB- [Taylor] 21-Year-Old STUDENT PILOT LANDS HER PLANE WITHOUT NOSE WHEEL! ruclips.net/video/USW53vdL_0c/видео.htmlsi=RPYkzJmo7TyKpPQ3
Yeah, "your gear is up" is definitely not something you want to hear on a fixed-gear aircraft. - haha Turns out his gear actually was down, just quite a bit farther down that it's supposed to be.
Can you do a video on the emergency landing of KLM in Norway today? According to the news they reported a loud bang and hydrolic failure after take off and they ended up in the grass at landing. It was flight KL1204. The landing was at 19:05 in Sanderfjord
Did ATC automatically declare an emergency here? I noticed that no one actually said “mayday” or “emergency” but both towers were giving info and priority and rolling equipment. Was a formal emergency declared, or did the towers just help out as if there were but without actually declaring, to save everyone a lot of paperwork?
Must have been a great landing, not even really sure HOW it was that intact, when that wing comes down, you’d think it would have to loop on you (even if you hold it up as long as possible.) Looks like he saved the engine, prop, AND no major damage to the wing. 😳
Proper description is two main gear and either a nose or tail wheel. But right rear wheel is just as descriptive, especially when talking to someone who may be worried, distracted, and/or new to aviation. So everyone choosing to use "Right Rear" instead of "Right Main" is perfectly fine. As phraseology goes, it's nowhere near as important as something like "Line up and wait", "Hold short", and "Cleared to ...".
QUESTION: I know there are check list items to check the components on the outside of the aircraft, and landing gear is one of them. Would this issue with the landing gear be something a pilot who's not an A&E Mechanic be able to spot? And before there's angry typing about "Who's at fault", I'm not looking to assign blame. I'm more curious as to if and how a pilot can detect this so we don't have this issue again. (I'm looking at the issue from an NTSB perspective, and not the FAA perspective.)
No way for any of us to say yes or no confidently. You're supposed to check the landing gear before flight, yeah, but it was there and supporting the plane throughout the taxi, it's impossible to say whether there was any kind of visible indication that it was about to fail just from this video.
No one said this but it could also be because that's where there maintenance hangar is, but no way of knowing for sure without talking to the pilot since the pilot didn't say. Tower just speculated.
I'm not trying to cast blame, I just wanna know why this happened. Landing gear doesn't just "fall off the aircraft" for no reason, I'm curious why it happened this time. Now before you mention the U-2's outrigger wheels falling off, that's not what I'm talking about even tho it's technically "landing gear falling off the aircraft". The U-2 does that for at least 2 very good reasons, specifically "shedding dead weight and drag" by disposing of the wheel and strut after the have served their purpose, and "reducing the complexity and failure modes of the aircraft" by just not even trying to have a retractable gear system integrated into such a thin and flexible wing. As is, if the U-2's outrigger wheels and struts fail to detach on rotation during takeoff, I'm pretty sure they're supposed to gently "bounce" the aircraft (with the main gear still down of course) to try to shake the outrigger gear loose, because if they stay on, that's enough drag to make the U-2 unable to reach it's operational altitude and/or unable to reach it's intended mission range figures.
01:57 Always interesting to hear how ATC communicates METARs I often observe that automatically generated weather reports are usually way too pessimistic with their cloud layers. Especially on summer days when they convert tiny cumulus clouds into BKN/OVC ceilings just because they barely move and stay over the sensors despite them easily passing for FEW or SCT. In this case, since its winter, its believeable that the aiport is stuck in low stratus/stratocumulus tho
Nah, this audio is picked up by private radios / repeaters off-site usually. All ground ops / ARFF traffic usually barely comes in. Probably crystal clear in the tower.
Vibes...
[Maggie] 17-YEAR-OLD STUDENT PILOT LANDS HER PLANE WITHOUT A WHEEL! ruclips.net/video/B229-KLudTo/видео.htmlsi=b2PNcOOrZWSL7tB-
[Taylor] 21-Year-Old STUDENT PILOT LANDS HER PLANE WITHOUT NOSE WHEEL! ruclips.net/video/USW53vdL_0c/видео.htmlsi=RPYkzJmo7TyKpPQ3
I thought it was a repost for a second because of that video.
I had the same thing happen to me in a Cherokee.
- Yeah, your gear is up.
- ... I'm fixed gear...
Yeah, "your gear is up" is definitely not something you want to hear on a fixed-gear aircraft. - haha
Turns out his gear actually was down, just quite a bit farther down that it's supposed to be.
😂😂😂@@vbscript2
At places that would instruct me to "check gear down", my response was always "gear down and welded."
Great situational awareness to direct the go around I'm assuming for FOD
When the tire gets sick of student touch and goes :D Good job capt.
good job on the pilot informing the tower! gives time to ensure the RWY is clear for other aircraft.
Nicely done. That will make a nice doorstop and conversation piece.
Hayward must have one hell of a runway for a whole airport to want to go land there😂😂😂
That cracked me up! Like how does an airport fly and land?
@@piparalegal2019 It's always land! But this is California, so maybe it's an earthquake causing they flying sometimes.
Two peope entering the office. "This is going to take a while. You can sit in that chair. And you can sit on that tire if you want."
Overall, once ATC had valid 411, all ATC involved performed beautifully, as if their loved ones were on board. Kudos ATC
Perfect handling of the situation ! He even got his wheel back, it will be back on the plane in no time 😄
You picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel 🎼🎵🎶
Good one!
Darrell Waltrip sang that at NASCAR races as wheels falling off is not uncommon
Beat me to it. Kenny Rogers would be proud.
The missing wheel was found relaxing in the FBO office, having donuts and coffee with one ofthe mechanics.
The force a strong with that student pilot! Great job!!👏
PIC: I lost my wheel!
ARFF: No it's not lost, it's on the runway over there!
Nice job 56E good como skills…well done!
Can you do a video on the emergency landing of KLM in Norway today? According to the news they reported a loud bang and hydrolic failure after take off and they ended up in the grass at landing. It was flight KL1204. The landing was at 19:05 in Sanderfjord
There have been so many Boeing hydraulic issues lately, Im finding that mention of them in RUclips videos and on Google are a getting suppressed.
I lost one of my wheels? But I need that wheel! Pilot handled this like a pro.
Getting called into the principals office because you left something behind when you took off.
Good job, everyone!
"Hold your position there"?
"...or taxi under protest."
I mean, the prop was still up over ground so could technically drag the plane to parking :D
@@DISOPtv Don't overestimate the thrust of an old Lycoming O-360😆
I bet that wheel will be a good souvenir for whoever keeps it
Probably dan gryder got there and snagged it up
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@@bubbaman12289 Got dayum!
@@bubbaman12289 Now that's funny!!!
Very well done all around.
Please make a video about, KL1204 today at oslo! took of and reported an Hydraulic issue, needed to land asap, and on landing skidded of the runway
Excellent job!
Did ATC automatically declare an emergency here? I noticed that no one actually said “mayday” or “emergency” but both towers were giving info and priority and rolling equipment. Was a formal emergency declared, or did the towers just help out as if there were but without actually declaring, to save everyone a lot of paperwork?
What happens to the plane in a situation like this afterwards?
Must have been a great landing, not even really sure HOW it was that intact, when that wing comes down, you’d think it would have to loop on you (even if you hold it up as long as possible.) Looks like he saved the engine, prop, AND no major damage to the wing. 😳
Two departures. One from the runway and one from the aircraft. Go figure.
I'm doubting that wheel had a departure clearance. Needs a number to call.
@@ljfinger Ah, the dreaded "number".
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Meanwhile back at the maintenance shop the Technicians are looking at each other saying "It wasn't me"!!!!!
Could’ve also been the pilot. They are allowed to do those.
That last few seconds . . .you mean he left it in the Pilot's Lounge???
Geez looks like the wheel and tire from my zero turn😳
Why did they keep saying "rear wheel" ? surely "RH main gear" is the proper description.
Proper description is two main gear and either a nose or tail wheel. But right rear wheel is just as descriptive, especially when talking to someone who may be worried, distracted, and/or new to aviation. So everyone choosing to use "Right Rear" instead of "Right Main" is perfectly fine. As phraseology goes, it's nowhere near as important as something like "Line up and wait", "Hold short", and "Cleared to ...".
Should have called Gladys Ingle.
QUESTION: I know there are check list items to check the components on the outside of the aircraft, and landing gear is one of them. Would this issue with the landing gear be something a pilot who's not an A&E Mechanic be able to spot? And before there's angry typing about "Who's at fault", I'm not looking to assign blame. I'm more curious as to if and how a pilot can detect this so we don't have this issue again. (I'm looking at the issue from an NTSB perspective, and not the FAA perspective.)
No way for any of us to say yes or no confidently. You're supposed to check the landing gear before flight, yeah, but it was there and supporting the plane throughout the taxi, it's impossible to say whether there was any kind of visible indication that it was about to fail just from this video.
do you check every nut and bolt before driving your car in the morning?
is there a reason you would fly to a different place to land? i assume this turns a mess at one field into a mess at 2?
I think they said because the runway there is longer...
Palo Alto is only 2400ft long
@@numazuchi Thanks i must have missed it
No one said this but it could also be because that's where there maintenance hangar is, but no way of knowing for sure without talking to the pilot since the pilot didn't say. Tower just speculated.
It was stated in the radio transmissions why the divert.
Are pilots still required to read back altimeter settings?... asking for a friend.
Absolutely
They need to know they got the right numbers since pilots set their altimeter with it.
Did you mount that wheel back to the airplane?
it looks like condition 1A
🙂
I'm not trying to cast blame, I just wanna know why this happened.
Landing gear doesn't just "fall off the aircraft" for no reason, I'm curious why it happened this time.
Now before you mention the U-2's outrigger wheels falling off, that's not what I'm talking about even tho it's technically "landing gear falling off the aircraft". The U-2 does that for at least 2 very good reasons, specifically "shedding dead weight and drag" by disposing of the wheel and strut after the have served their purpose, and "reducing the complexity and failure modes of the aircraft" by just not even trying to have a retractable gear system integrated into such a thin and flexible wing.
As is, if the U-2's outrigger wheels and struts fail to detach on rotation during takeoff, I'm pretty sure they're supposed to gently "bounce" the aircraft (with the main gear still down of course) to try to shake the outrigger gear loose, because if they stay on, that's enough drag to make the U-2 unable to reach it's operational altitude and/or unable to reach it's intended mission range figures.
01:57 Always interesting to hear how ATC communicates METARs
I often observe that automatically generated weather reports are usually way too pessimistic with their cloud layers. Especially on summer days when they convert tiny cumulus clouds into BKN/OVC ceilings just because they barely move and stay over the sensors despite them easily passing for FEW or SCT.
In this case, since its winter, its believeable that the aiport is stuck in low stratus/stratocumulus tho
Airport 1 at Palo Alto sounds like Kennedy Steve mimicking Delta Tug 2. Might want to get that mic looked at while they're at it.
Nah, this audio is picked up by private radios / repeaters off-site usually. All ground ops / ARFF traffic usually barely comes in. Probably crystal clear in the tower.
Why did the pilot have a wheel? That seems like a very strange prosthetic for a pilot to have.
Oh lord... Has Captain Maggie took off again?
Taken
This is not good.