I just find it hilarious that the devs admitted that the new player experience in this game sucked, so they made it easier to progress and gave away a bunch of free stuff. Then they immediately turn around and release a major update that new players have no ability to participate in, same being true for a lot of veteran players
Yeah I agree. They shouldn't be getting away with this nonsense they have been pushing with forcing us to play the game their way. What's the point of that if everything is decided by them? They pick the teams for us now too... and they are not even good characters. They are forcing us to invest in and use awful characters.
It's that stupid new trend they have been doing lately that gives us ZERO flexibility on what to build. Same thing with that new Assault Battle forcing us to farm, build, and use the very 2 new characters. Remember when Assault Battles used to ask us to use a faction like Phoenix, or Empire, etc? What happened to that? It's very disappointing seeing the direction the game is on nowadays.
Same PISS OF SHEET. Best trolling from DICE are Requirments for 0 Base Difficulty: 5 Stars, 5 specific characters, but after starting the battle you see that your enemys are relicted
The new raid system is just unfun, it feels so bad to farm all new teams just for the opportunity to not LOSE rewards you already have. You don't get anything new, just the chance to lose what you have
Ah yes the main way you progress to get better and do the bigger things. I don't understand, why don't you want people to progress, like this doesn't even make them more money.
its sad for any guild that doesnt spend money, a 300m gp guild, only 30m of those gp matters and most of that had to be bought in marquees last month, SWGOH is slowly drifting to you old farms arew all obsolete, GC/Conquest/and raids are for current spenders only
Yup my guild got absolutely nothing and it's pathetic that a raid is so end game heavy and the only thing the did yo counter it was bring out the lsb to make you spend more money. The devs are a joke
I could smell the salt radiating through the screen in the opening. 😥 I think we got the 3rd crate but it was tooth and nail for every point and just not fun at all. Then the rewards still sucked. 😬
When you really look at the raid requirements, there are basically 9 new characters that are needed to have any potential of having any success. By the time lower guilds build up a team from the new group, the raid will be replaced again. CG needs to allow this raid to live longer than a year.
All old farms are now obsolete, if it is accelerated, its worthless, only marquees are viable, and better than GL's ! only spenders can enjoy conquest, GC, and new raids. GL have fun!
I run 330m GP Guild and we got 1st crate. The raid is so poorly done and released too early. MQGJis not even farmable yet and only whales might have Jar Jar as the event has been on only once. The teams needed: Conquest character with 2 marquees whom another can’t be farmed. 25€ LSB bundle, Full R8 off-meta team that will be nerfed, team only accessible for whales due to already mentioned reason and Jedi Consular lead leftovers. From this our 330m guild we had 2 members that were able to get past 2m points which I was the other with +10m roster. Way to go CG, this is how you ruin the f2p experience.
Not a surprise CG fucks the playerbase at the first opportunity they get. They did it before with Krayt, they try it every chance they get hoping the players get complacent.
We had the same result in speed bike as your guild, but we've reached the 1st crate on naboo. Still it is a maaaaajor setback. :( And the fact that they've removed mk3 from speed bike raid is just disgusting. I could not even believed my own eyes. Btw. I just returned to this game after 2.5 years... I even spent some money on my f2p account for the 1st time ever. And than this. Did they really think before they do something?
Well now I can't even level up my characters to fight the new raid because now I cant earn any currency unless we run speeder bike and then I dont earn mk 3
“A more accessible game for new players” , but u don t need zeta and credits, so who cares about Grievous event that miss from 2months and than, Raids? Naa that s a end game features. Just pray and hope when u open ur eyes in the morning, your characters goes to gym and became relics 🙌 Wow… that s really robbery level by CG.
It’s a game geared towards the people that pay it’s just that simple guys , galactic challenge is getting worse, raids have been awful since krayt , conquest is a whales paradise …… its disheartening but not really shocking tbh
How many low end guilds used to moan about it being unfair the end game rewards were gated behind cpit? The raid structure changed play to your level I don't see what all the fuss is about
Jeez....raids are in such a terrible, sad state in general these days. They force us to play the new raid...what about all the other raid content before it? Just a waste. Not to mention raids are an auto-play event now. They used to require serious teamwork and strategy. Lame as heck CG
TBF, when hsith came out it took months before we were able to beat it. To start scoring on naboo is a lot easier than trying to beat hsith when sith first dropped
You're comparing apples to oranges here dude. Yes, when the Sith raid came out it may have taken months before people were able to clear it but: A.) If 1 member of your guild was strong enough, they could potentially be able to clear the entire thing by themselves B.) You didn't have to worry about the rewards you'd receive being taken away after 6-9months C.) Even if you weren't able to full clear, you'd still always be able to do well enough to get some sort of reward or just do one of the other two raids and only miss out on getting Kreia shards compared to Naboo where: A.) The MOST a single member can contribute is 18mil points and that's if they're able to full clear with 5 R9 teams which is highly unlikely. The more likely scenario of the strongest member would still only be set up for R8s (maybe) so they can get approx. 14mil. The more common scenario will be players having 4 teams around R5 and one ready for R8 which would net you 7.5 mil. Best case scenario, your whale would get you to the second crate. Likely Scenario, the rest of your guild would still need another 2.5 mil points to get the final crate B.) By the time the weaker guilds might finally have their rosters in a place where they may be able to start getting MK3 currencies again, the raid will be dying down and it'll be moved to the next raid meaning they're going to have to do this all again at that time C.) If you can't reach 10 mil points (which, again, is unlikely a single guild member could do) you get NOTHING. Yes you can switch to the other raids in the meantime but, unlike the Sith raid which doing so locks you out of a single character, going without MK3 currencies lock you out of advancing ALL characters which is a lot more infuriating. I'm all for the latest raid only being for the end game guilds. But, if they're going to do so, they still need to have avenues for middle/early game guilds to GET to end game. With the current reward system, they've locked them out. I've said before, the easiest solution for CG they could do is to just let the different currencies be convertible to one another even if it's at a horrible ratio. Say something like: 2000 MK 2 = 500 Mk 3 500 MK 3 = 750 MK 2 2000 MK 1 = 500 Mk 2 500 MK 2 = 750 MK 1 You'd still be better off doing the newer raid if you can but it'd at least help those who can't still advance their rosters rather than making them feel like they're going backwards
@@RobertHinchey the only people defending this raid are people that spent 2k last month on gungans and Obi/quigon, but even they should see this model is unsustainable, are they going to drop rent ever couple months to continue playing? CG has slowing been easing us into this boiling water, First you can no longer get red crate in GC, then red crate in conquest in unobtainable without a recent downpayment, now you cant play raids without a loan.
@@bluu7964 Just making sure, you know that I wasn't defending this raid right XD. I do think the overall raid structure now is better than it was pre-Krayt but I don't agree with the gatekeeping of required materials
What was everyone getting at the START of the last raid, not the end? You can't compare the first new raid to one you've had 7 months to farm for a call it a fair My guild (250M during Endor) started Endor at Crate 3 and finished at Crate 6 Yes we've dropped back to crate 3 but that'a where we started Endor at and we will get to crate 6 because we know what we have to do (2 R3 teams that can score Max each) This is the raid cycle now, CG wants you to buy the shiny new thing or frustration buy the LSB, they don't get you to do that by giving you exactly what you got in the last raid for free. If you can't hit crate 1 (200K average) then you need to work on your characters and/or teams so take a couple of raids off, play Endor, gear up the 2 teams necessary then go back and get your R7/R8 mats
@@songeta , I know that sounds awful and increases the competition for larger guilds, but lets face it, without Mk2 and Mk 3 raid currency, there will be no parts to build gear or higher relics that GLs require.
Everyone should leave 1-star reviews and stop playing for one or two months but yeh this will not happen cuz players can scream like sheeps but still play and spend money into something that clearly are done to fk the community and has a pattern already. I bet that now they will start changing events while selling bundles, so players spend to catch up and at least make some points. That will be their business model cuz many people including me went crazy with lightspeed bundles but most dont spend on their daily store offers cuz tbh are A22 those offers. Reason why I started an account on MSF which things are more balanced and dont seem to be an endless farming to actually have fun plus has better animations and are way better developed than SWGOH. Im not saying Im quitting but yet these decisions from their developers or project managers do not motivates me to be constantly committed as I was in the past years.
@@craigedwards7062 yeh cuz MSF its giving players what SWGOH aint. Either way I dont want to quit cuz I spent overall a couple of cash in it. However, Im not enjoying it because seems more like a work instead of having fun playing SWGOH. Ill just chill on my pace no more catching up. They dont deserve it either way cuz at 2024 they have animations/graphics like it were taken from Minecraft or GTA III super obsolete and its not even open world. They have to do better in every way... offers, content, rewards, allow more modding space to try new things more loadouts and what they bring constantly to attract new players and make the ones already playing invested.
…… I complain because it was not clear how ridiculous it would be until we already wasted 180k tickets. My complaint is all about the very first run and nothing else. We got back to SBP.
Raid rewards aren't freebies. You have to earn it. If you don't have the teams, then do the older raids. There is a bunch of whining and complaining. If everyone stayed in endor, this wouldn't be an issue, or if you all bought the 19.99 lsb, you wouldn't have an issue.
Dude, this has nothing to do with free rewards this has to with CG gimping everyone of Mk3 tokens. If you planned for mk3 currency, to get characters to relic 8, the time has at least doubled. Some people went from getting a relic 8 every 3 weeks, to being unable to get any relic 8 characters from the guild store.
I don't really get it. We've had months to prepare. Gungans have been fully f2p farmable, and Seps are very accessible. People just put off preparing and figured the whales in their guild would take care of it for them.
So ... Early game accounts doesn't really have the resources to just ignore normal farms for stuff like this and fully relic a team like that. And even people that do, your rewards are still doodoo
I just find it hilarious that the devs admitted that the new player experience in this game sucked, so they made it easier to progress and gave away a bunch of free stuff. Then they immediately turn around and release a major update that new players have no ability to participate in, same being true for a lot of veteran players
AGREED
They definitely need to change the difficulty they use g13 b1’s on tier 1 and expect a 5 star character to do something. It’s absurd
Yeah I'm in a pretty competitive guild full of mid and end game rosters. Our rewards have been halved.
Same here
Even my guild which is a 520 million GP guild saw the Mk III raid tokens cut IN HALF.
CG wants everyone to R9 everything… but unless you can obtain R8 and R9 materials… makes “CG” sense, I guess?
I wish they had announced the required units a lot sooner, as well. The whole thing was quick and dirty.
We need an update to Ahnald's "Fix Your Game" song: "F*ck Your Game"
Yeah I agree. They shouldn't be getting away with this nonsense they have been pushing with forcing us to play the game their way. What's the point of that if everything is decided by them? They pick the teams for us now too... and they are not even good characters. They are forcing us to invest in and use awful characters.
It's that stupid new trend they have been doing lately that gives us ZERO flexibility on what to build. Same thing with that new Assault Battle forcing us to farm, build, and use the very 2 new characters. Remember when Assault Battles used to ask us to use a faction like Phoenix, or Empire, etc? What happened to that? It's very disappointing seeing the direction the game is on nowadays.
And we didn't even steal Fizzy Lifting Drink, or dirty the ceiling...
"Wrong sir, Wrong! You get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!"
Same PISS OF SHEET. Best trolling from DICE are Requirments for 0 Base Difficulty: 5 Stars, 5 specific characters, but after starting the battle you see that your enemys are relicted
The new raid system is just unfun, it feels so bad to farm all new teams just for the opportunity to not LOSE rewards you already have. You don't get anything new, just the chance to lose what you have
Seemy like ebbyting da Gunganzies be touching be turny to poodoo. Eben da bombad Jedi bein' no heppin. Jar'ring.
Looking forward for the next Council episode. Between that raid and the nex DC set, it will be an explosive one for sure!
Very, very sad for a lot of guilds below 300m GP. Pretty much cut off from mid tier relics.
Ah yes the main way you progress to get better and do the bigger things. I don't understand, why don't you want people to progress, like this doesn't even make them more money.
its sad for any guild that doesnt spend money, a 300m gp guild, only 30m of those gp matters and most of that had to be bought in marquees last month, SWGOH is slowly drifting to you old farms arew all obsolete, GC/Conquest/and raids are for current spenders only
I'm in 385m GP guild, rewards are just trash(we are still hoping to get 3rd crate, but anyway it's minimum halved rewards)
Yup my guild got absolutely nothing and it's pathetic that a raid is so end game heavy and the only thing the did yo counter it was bring out the lsb to make you spend more money. The devs are a joke
I love that I’m in a 320M guild and can only hit the second crate…great raid cg
My guild a little smaller and managed 2nd crate as well Most of my pts was from my r5 gungans with omicron no jar jar
My guild went from 4000 MKIII to 1500 which is pretty ridiculous
I could smell the salt radiating through the screen in the opening. 😥
I think we got the 3rd crate but it was tooth and nail for every point and just not fun at all. Then the rewards still sucked. 😬
My guild went from 60ish mil on endor to barely scraping by on first crate naboo
My mid to end game account went from ~40 million points to ~20 mil
Yeah, my guild is going to scrape the first chest when we where getting the 6th or something on the older raid. It's so annoying
When you really look at the raid requirements, there are basically 9 new characters that are needed to have any potential of having any success. By the time lower guilds build up a team from the new group, the raid will be replaced again. CG needs to allow this raid to live longer than a year.
All old farms are now obsolete, if it is accelerated, its worthless, only marquees are viable, and better than GL's ! only spenders can enjoy conquest, GC, and new raids. GL have fun!
CG probably laughing and drinking chamapge right now lol
Painful
Even my LSB Jedi struggle on these lower tiers. It’s wild. (I haven’t applied lumi zeta and out of principle I don’t want to)
That's literally the whole reason the team works. Super weird to buy the LSB then double down on no zeta 😂
@@duggix2362 lmao, fair. I’m just super strapped for zetas. 😭
I run 330m GP Guild and we got 1st crate. The raid is so poorly done and released too early. MQGJis not even farmable yet and only whales might have Jar Jar as the event has been on only once. The teams needed: Conquest character with 2 marquees whom another can’t be farmed. 25€ LSB bundle, Full R8 off-meta team that will be nerfed, team only accessible for whales due to already mentioned reason and Jedi Consular lead leftovers.
From this our 330m guild we had 2 members that were able to get past 2m points which I was the other with +10m roster.
Way to go CG, this is how you ruin the f2p experience.
CG: buy everything and allready have all the high relics, or F you!
They should scale results fof less than the first crate at a % of the crate so you don't get zeroed. It still feels bad man.
Thanks for Sharing, sorry for yer lack of rewards
Only 1% guild claim that they got better rewards 😂
And they are just trolling.
150 mil gp guild we got nothing on our first raid for naboo as well
I just hope they don’t make the jar jar mission like cal
Not a surprise CG fucks the playerbase at the first opportunity they get. They did it before with Krayt, they try it every chance they get hoping the players get complacent.
Guild is about 325 mil went from about 108 mil to barley getting the 22mil box
We had the same result in speed bike as your guild, but we've reached the 1st crate on naboo. Still it is a maaaaajor setback. :(
And the fact that they've removed mk3 from speed bike raid is just disgusting. I could not even believed my own eyes. Btw. I just returned to this game after 2.5 years...
I even spent some money on my f2p account for the 1st time ever. And than this. Did they really think before they do something?
CG fecking their own game as always
"FIX YOUR GAME, CG!"
remember when each old raid had tiers? just go play the old raids. play like Heroic Tank. you can get MK3 with G12 in new raid.
Ooooof. Hopefully they drop a lower box
I'm more shocked at the amount of MOL ELIZA players in ur guild... the horror
That was a long time ago, ex players get named mol Eliza if you go back and look at it 😜
Lol
This is typical CG Gaming 😂
Sad times :(
base diff b1 hp and protection is 70K
Well now I can't even level up my characters to fight the new raid because now I cant earn any currency unless we run speeder bike and then I dont earn mk 3
Mk 3 is overrate - I don't even care about the 1500 we got before, I just wanna get Mk1 and Mk2
It's ridiculous
“A more accessible game for new players” , but u don t need zeta and credits, so who cares about Grievous event that miss from 2months and than, Raids?
Naa that s a end game features.
Just pray and hope when u open ur eyes in the morning, your characters goes to gym and became relics 🙌
Wow… that s really robbery level by CG.
It’s a game geared towards the people that pay it’s just that simple guys , galactic challenge is getting worse, raids have been awful since krayt , conquest is a whales paradise …… its disheartening but not really shocking tbh
How many low end guilds used to moan about it being unfair the end game rewards were gated behind cpit? The raid structure changed play to your level I don't see what all the fuss is about
Jeez....raids are in such a terrible, sad state in general these days. They force us to play the new raid...what about all the other raid content before it? Just a waste. Not to mention raids are an auto-play event now. They used to require serious teamwork and strategy. Lame as heck CG
I don't like the raid, because it's so slow. I have things to do in life and I don't want to spend hours just to get a low reward
TBF, when hsith came out it took months before we were able to beat it.
To start scoring on naboo is a lot easier than trying to beat hsith when sith first dropped
You're comparing apples to oranges here dude.
Yes, when the Sith raid came out it may have taken months before people were able to clear it but:
A.) If 1 member of your guild was strong enough, they could potentially be able to clear the entire thing by themselves
B.) You didn't have to worry about the rewards you'd receive being taken away after 6-9months
C.) Even if you weren't able to full clear, you'd still always be able to do well enough to get some sort of reward or just do one of the other two raids and only miss out on getting Kreia shards
compared to Naboo where:
A.) The MOST a single member can contribute is 18mil points and that's if they're able to full clear with 5 R9 teams which is highly unlikely. The more likely scenario of the strongest member would still only be set up for R8s (maybe) so they can get approx. 14mil. The more common scenario will be players having 4 teams around R5 and one ready for R8 which would net you 7.5 mil. Best case scenario, your whale would get you to the second crate. Likely Scenario, the rest of your guild would still need another 2.5 mil points to get the final crate
B.) By the time the weaker guilds might finally have their rosters in a place where they may be able to start getting MK3 currencies again, the raid will be dying down and it'll be moved to the next raid meaning they're going to have to do this all again at that time
C.) If you can't reach 10 mil points (which, again, is unlikely a single guild member could do) you get NOTHING. Yes you can switch to the other raids in the meantime but, unlike the Sith raid which doing so locks you out of a single character, going without MK3 currencies lock you out of advancing ALL characters which is a lot more infuriating.
I'm all for the latest raid only being for the end game guilds. But, if they're going to do so, they still need to have avenues for middle/early game guilds to GET to end game. With the current reward system, they've locked them out. I've said before, the easiest solution for CG they could do is to just let the different currencies be convertible to one another even if it's at a horrible ratio. Say something like:
2000 MK 2 = 500 Mk 3
500 MK 3 = 750 MK 2
2000 MK 1 = 500 Mk 2
500 MK 2 = 750 MK 1
You'd still be better off doing the newer raid if you can but it'd at least help those who can't still advance their rosters rather than making them feel like they're going backwards
@@RobertHinchey the only people defending this raid are people that spent 2k last month on gungans and Obi/quigon, but even they should see this model is unsustainable, are they going to drop rent ever couple months to continue playing? CG has slowing been easing us into this boiling water, First you can no longer get red crate in GC, then red crate in conquest in unobtainable without a recent downpayment, now you cant play raids without a loan.
@@bluu7964 Just making sure, you know that I wasn't defending this raid right XD.
I do think the overall raid structure now is better than it was pre-Krayt but I don't agree with the gatekeeping of required materials
Gungan r8 rush time?😅
Yea definitely not a fan of the raid...they're forcing us to whale on gungans and trash jedi LSB...greed has forever killed free to play in this game
There are like 5 other raids your smaller guild can do as you work up towards the top...non-issue is a non-issue.
What was everyone getting at the START of the last raid, not the end?
You can't compare the first new raid to one you've had 7 months to farm for a call it a fair
My guild (250M during Endor) started Endor at Crate 3 and finished at Crate 6
Yes we've dropped back to crate 3 but that'a where we started Endor at and we will get to crate 6 because we know what we have to do (2 R3 teams that can score Max each)
This is the raid cycle now, CG wants you to buy the shiny new thing or frustration buy the LSB, they don't get you to do that by giving you exactly what you got in the last raid for free.
If you can't hit crate 1 (200K average) then you need to work on your characters and/or teams so take a couple of raids off, play Endor, gear up the 2 teams necessary then go back and get your R7/R8 mats
You can't even frustration buy the lsb lmao
I recommend to the smaller guilds to work out mergers.
Boooooo
@@songeta , I know that sounds awful and increases the competition for larger guilds, but lets face it, without Mk2 and Mk 3 raid currency, there will be no parts to build gear or higher relics that GLs require.
this new raid is bad because u need so much new stuff at r9
if next raid is like this im out
Everyone should leave 1-star reviews and stop playing for one or two months but yeh this will not happen cuz players can scream like sheeps but still play and spend money into something that clearly are done to fk the community and has a pattern already. I bet that now they will start changing events while selling bundles, so players spend to catch up and at least make some points. That will be their business model cuz many people including me went crazy with lightspeed bundles but most dont spend on their daily store offers cuz tbh are A22 those offers. Reason why I started an account on MSF which things are more balanced and dont seem to be an endless farming to actually have fun plus has better animations and are way better developed than SWGOH. Im not saying Im quitting but yet these decisions from their developers or project managers do not motivates me to be constantly committed as I was in the past years.
I just quit about a week ago and started MSF it's a lot of fun at the moment, and I was an 11m 6 and half year SWGHO player
@@craigedwards7062 yeh cuz MSF its giving players what SWGOH aint. Either way I dont want to quit cuz I spent overall a couple of cash in it. However, Im not enjoying it because seems more like a work instead of having fun playing SWGOH. Ill just chill on my pace no more catching up. They dont deserve it either way cuz at 2024 they have animations/graphics like it were taken from Minecraft or GTA III super obsolete and its not even open world. They have to do better in every way... offers, content, rewards, allow more modding space to try new things more loadouts and what they bring constantly to attract new players and make the ones already playing invested.
I dont understand why you complain, your guild is not ready for Naboo. So not ready...
…… I complain because it was not clear how ridiculous it would be until we already wasted 180k tickets. My complaint is all about the very first run and nothing else. We got back to SBP.
I understand. But tou tried, now you know. It is all fine. My guild was doing 424mil in endor, now in naboo 42mil...what to say....
@@arturarturos7050 only 10% of your previous score? Holy cow
Go back to speeder. You didn't get get3 anyways. Get a better roster 😂
Trust me, we will! And I told the guild we shouldn’t try this one to begin with lol. Saw this comin
Raid rewards aren't freebies. You have to earn it. If you don't have the teams, then do the older raids. There is a bunch of whining and complaining. If everyone stayed in endor, this wouldn't be an issue, or if you all bought the 19.99 lsb, you wouldn't have an issue.
What a terrible take.
@@DarthEvac why should you get free rewards?
Dude, this has nothing to do with free rewards this has to with CG gimping everyone of Mk3 tokens. If you planned for mk3 currency, to get characters to relic 8, the time has at least doubled. Some people went from getting a relic 8 every 3 weeks, to being unable to get any relic 8 characters from the guild store.
I don't really get it. We've had months to prepare. Gungans have been fully f2p farmable, and Seps are very accessible.
People just put off preparing and figured the whales in their guild would take care of it for them.
There was a 3 day window of preparing
I agree….the guy saying 3 days? It was MONTHS. I had my Gungans to R7 at the start (No Jar Jar), and Seps/Sith R5 to R7.
So ... Early game accounts doesn't really have the resources to just ignore normal farms for stuff like this and fully relic a team like that. And even people that do, your rewards are still doodoo
Gungans aren't full farmable for new players when Phalanx is on Hard Fleet 4-D which isn't easy to beat for new players
Gungans are single-drop farms. Even if they weren't you shouldn't be expected to drop everything you're working on and hard focus the newest thing.