Ep 166: Dalmore 12 Year Scotch Review and Tasting with Port Charlotte/Monkey Shoulder Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Today we do a review and tasting of Dalmore 12 Year single malt Scotch whisky and compare it to Monkey Shoulder and Port Charlotte Heavily Peated.
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The Dalmore 12 Year is hands down my favorite Scotch... Followed by Highland Park 18 Year.
How's the HP 18? Can I bother you for some tasting notes for that?
I love Richard Paterson too. Another cool fact about him is that he helped design the Glencairn glass. It's hard to believe you via doesn't mention all the dark fruit notes in Dalmore tho. I get a lot of plum, grapes, red apples and raspberry. Love that stuff!
I blame you guys (in a good way) for my new obsession with whiskey. I had been given a bottle of Crown Royale Reserve some years ago and had never opened it till just a few weeks ago. Then I tried a MacAllan 12, followed shortly by purchasing a bottle of Dalmore 15. Thank you for opening my mind and tastebuds to the world of whiskey, and damn you at the same time!! Keep the awesome videos coming!
Both praise and damnation are equally accepted.
Oh Dalmore.. literally say this everytime!!! Its soooooo good
im not sure what i stumbled on here because it was an actual whiskey review and those don't happen on this channel
Safety first. Back slowly out... go back in time. Watch a mooch necklace video. take deep breaths.
instructions unclear computer now on fire all whiskey poured down sink
i just imagined myself showing up at your front door, wearing a plumbers outfit, wrench in hand. you open the door and i say, "where's that damn sink"
@@FightStealDrink lol i could totally see that
I tried this Whisky on their recommendation and it was amazing, my favorite Whisky so far. Wonderful stuff. (and I'm not really a whisky drinker) Thanks guys!
As soon as you started down the Richard Paterson path I started "no, no, nooo, nooooooo, NOOOOOOOOO!!"
Do you also find him... a bit annoying? He's probably a great blender, and he's a great personality, but there are like 40 videos of him doing the exact same whisky tasting routine, and he never explains any of it.
In some videos he explains why he does this thing with glass, smelling few times and so on. Also, he not always throws away whisky - he omitted this step with Dalmore 50 :)
Peter Schumacher I low key don't like him at all. I think some of the stuff he does is bizarre and is counterproductive for creating whisky drinkers.
It bothers me that he has 50 videos of him greeting his whisky three times, but I haven't seen anything where he explains why. If you look at Highland Park's channel, they have a video about whisky-tasting, and he explains it right off the bat. It was so refreshing to lose all the bombast for unpretentious information.
I for one, can't stand Mr. Paterson's persona. Love Dalmore though.
I decided this weekend to expand my collection by another two bottles and picked up a bottle of Monkey Shoulder and Bruichladdich Port Charlotte Scottish Barley Heavily Peated. I tried the PC last night and the Monkey Shoulder today and have to say, in my limited whisky knowledge, that both of these are damn fine. I don't have much to compare either to, only having one other whisky of the two regions, Speyburn 10 for the Speyside and Laphroaig 10 for Islay. The Port Charlotte is definitely less aggressive than the Laphroaig and will probably be what I use to introduce my friend into smoky whisky when they're ready, but I going to have to do a side by side of the Speyburn and Monkey Shoulder tomorrow to see which one I prefer.
I really like the 15. That is brown sugar in a bottle. Reminds me of southern baking. Heavy butters and that brown sugar flavor mmmmmmm
I started following the channel heavily after the first Dalmore 12 review Daniel did by himself over a year ago, absolutly love everything about it and take pride in being an MB. If you guys could choose one dinner that you have to cook for yourself on a night alone, what would it be and what whiskey would you have with it? You guys are great and thanks for creating a great whiskey community!
for me, it would be a New York Strip, a baked potato, and Bowmore 15
I’ve never come across a channel with so many views and so few dislikes. You guys rock and not even the haters hate on you. Keep it up.
They're basically legends of whiskey.
Daniel and Rex, Dalmore 12 is the first scotch I ever tried and enjoyed. My Dad is a Speyside lover. My brother loves the Islay whiskies. The peatiest whisky I can do is Highland Park. I love Dalmore 12. It is probably my favorite scotch of them all. I do like Macallan, Glenlivet and Glenfiddich
You have good taste.
You have to try it because it’s amazink
To follow up on the Clearance Discounted Compass Box from the Pennsylvania State Stores:
I am way into the Oak Cross, and went back and bought two more bottles. The Orangerie and Peat Monster I can see the appeal of, but I'm mostly treating them like an occasional novelty for now.
Thanks again for the recommendation, and as I slowly learn more about Scotch, I discover there's so much more than just the overwhelming burnt bandage punch to the face that I got with my first Scotch ever (Talisker... I told my friend to "surprise me", and she sure as hell did)
Another great humour filled episode - laughs galore.
Daniel, just watched bunch of Richard Paterson videos. If he is as good a blender as he is a showman, those must be some amazing blends! Would love to see the two of you do some videos together. Although I do cringe everytime he just throws out the initial fill of a glass "just to make sure it's clean"
Woohoo got mentioned in a video!!! Dalmore 12 has become one of my favorites I also enjoy the Glenfarclas 12. But I'm still waiting to see your take on the King Alexander. Keep the videos coming.
I always get so sad that I can't afford any of these whiskeys. But at least I get to live vicariously through you guys.
we'll do a good budget whiskey list in the not-too-distant future.
Rex Thanks, Mr. Mooch. Maybe I could try to learn the art of mooching so that I can try the good stuff.
i hear the shire is well stocked and full of unsuspecting whiskey lovers.
Shane Ferrell the dalmore 12 is like 40 bucks. Relax
ImNotJoshPotter It's not sold where I am, and that's like the top of my budget. And I'm actually pretty relaxed already, but thanks for your concern.
$10 difference? Out here Dalmore 12 is double the price of monkey shoulder :(
Here too.
My wife just got me a bottle for Valentine's and I am loving it!!!!
Trying the Dalmore 12 for the first time I’m amazed by how long the taste lasts. It’s like the Willy Wonka scene when Violet takes the dinner gum and describes all the different flavors. It’s just soooo complex.
Ear wax...
Hey guys, I've been watching for a while now since I stumbled onto your Modern Rogue videos. In a few months I went from knowing nothing about whisk(e)y to fantasizing about scotch at work. My first 3 bottles were Laphroaig 10, Dalmore 12, and Classic Laddie, and I couldn't be happier with your recommendations. My thanks to you and a few other great youtube channels (Shout out to Ralfy) for showing the wonderful and non-pretentious side of whisky!
Grateful that you're here!
@@WhiskeyVault I asked Santa Klaus to make you guys my brothers...
I got a bottle of Ardbeg 10 instead. Damn Santa. Can't hate the dude.
Octomore 06.1 if still available is $160 in Taylor, MI
One more thing guys just hear me out try taking a sip of cold to cool water right be bore a sip of Whiskey I find that it opens up the flavors a bit. Maybe Daniel can explain it better but I think it's amazing.
Yes. It absolutely makes a difference.
King Alexander III... 200$.... And here in Denmark, just a short distance across the ocean from Scotland... have to pay 250$... DAMN YOU DANISH TAXES!!!
I just tried this for the first time because it was on sale for $10 of in Canada it is $100 for 750ml it is really very very good... I enjoy it a lot more than the Johnny walker gold select that has always been my go to.
I watch everyday or at least catch up on the weekend. I just got my first bottle of Dalmore 12 and I have had a couple glasses. I figured i would watch the video you guys made. Its nice to look back and see how far you have come. I remember the first video i watched and it was just Daniel sitting in a huge chair for what felt like an hour. Thank you guys for showing me the world of whiskey !!!!
I got a bottle of Dalmore 12, and I didn't get much smoke off of it, but I got a lot of dusty leather and cloves. I actually *braces for hate * didn't really enjoy it? I wonder if I got a bad bottle or something. Maybe I should order it at a bar and see if mine was off or something.
Port Charlotte heavily peated might be my favorite whisky in the world. It has more complexity than Laphroaig or Ardbeg, but it's more drinkable than Lagavulin.
The port charlotte is amazing. Don't feel bad about Dalmore. There are a lot of people who don't prefer it.
Most likely you're a chickenwuss.
I tried Dalmore 12 for the first time tonight. Nice baking spice and butterscotch, with some plum. It was quite tasty and I don't usually use smooth, but dammit it went down easy. Definitely a fine whisky.
Richard Patterson will be here in Houston doing Dalmore tasting on Friday. Y'all should come out. Ill buy both of you a drink!
Oh man, I wish I could
that would be awesome! wish i didn't have a line of people expecting me to be here on friday. i'll be mooching free food and whiskey, but no patterson. =/
Thanks for doing the heavy peated! Its my favorite islay by wide margin! Idk if i can agree that the 12 is better than KA3 further testing required...be back shortly with results!
if you need 3rd party confirmation of the results, i volunteer.
Ok so i have spent the last 45 minutes going back and fourth trying to decide which is better. I agree with Daniels assesment on the 12 but it is way too close to call...so i blended them...2 parts KA3 and 1 part D12 and you have the perfect Dalmore. You get the fruity sweetness up front from the 12 and the better finish on the back end from the KA3
See I don't care about the colouring really, but I would prefer they don't add stuff they don't need to, similar to chill filtering, I just don't see the point and as far as marketing goes, I feel like the preference is the same as me mostly
Dalmore 12 pairs wonderfully with almonds.
That's a damn good idea.
As a born and raised Texan, I'm slightly disappointed that y'all haven't done a 'Best Texas whiskeys' list. You can start with 1835 😎
It’s strange, I had the Dalmore 12 straight and it tasted like fig newtons! Then I added some ice and it immediately turned to Black licorice! A few sips later and it turned back to fig newtons. I was also smoking a cigar, so that might of changed things. Either way I loved it. I’ve never experienced that flavor profile in any other whiskey before.
$68.00 where i’m from. Bought me some today 👌🏼 Monkey shoulder is actually more expensive here too (69.00 before tax.)
Daniel,
Totally worth it dude! . . . .as long as we are paying in your whisky!
The writers tears!!! please for the love of God put it where it goes. Also i just tried my first high proof bourbon neat in the henry mckenna 10 and the old granddad 114 and I loved it. Keep doing what you guys do
Just wait.. this week, you'll see a handwritten note on it.
The people I know dislike the coloring because it changes the flavor. Like chill filtering strips away a vital component, e-150a adds a bad one.
Just bought my first bottle and didn’t realize I paid over MSRP until now🤦🏼♂️.
Where to begin with this one?
1. Octomore is 200 not 400.
2. I like pop music but not E150a
3 I am not fancy. Rex might be
4 4th review in sounds right maybe 5th
5. In my area the 12 is 60 vs 35 for monkey shoulder
6 I always have a Dalmore 12 on hand it's okay
7 Fun review as always
8 bunna 12???
1. I have 5 different Octomore's. They vary wildly in price. The one we were pouring was $378 when I bought it. The others were all under $200.
2. Iggy pop?
3. Rex is very very fancy
4. never telling
5. that's about right
6. me too
7. of course it is!
8. hell yes. on the list for soon.
my god i tought it was higher here in Québec, bought the dalmore 12 for 85$ tax in an SAQ.
The coloring has for most nothing to do with fancy (or being a snob]. There are people who don’t like additives. You guys mention in the video that it doesn’t affect the taste so why would it matter adding the colorant. You can also turn it around; why add it while it doesn’t improve the taste? Adding stuff not to improve the taste, but to make it look more older? Oh, wait... to make the product look more fancier? 😉. Personally I don’t mind. Understand why people don’t like it though.
Hey I just got a bottle of great kings street Glasgow blend (my first compass box whisky). I hope it's on the list soon!
It's tasty!
I love the Port finish. BUT for the money I buy the 12, and only on a blue moon spring for the Port finish... But I am a disabled vet and my money only goes so far...
Hey guys..what about an AnCnoc Cutter review? I think it's a great whisky but reviews of it are slim to none
I'll add it in!
My dislike of added colourants is that it robs you of some of the information. I like to look at the colour and think about how the wood and age have affected it. You pretty much have to ignore the colour of most scotches.
true
if you organise some speyside distillery shoots i'd drive you around the area any time, gratis. take a couple days to do properly. you would need someone else to do the islay area if you make it over tho
Awesome.
Whiskey Vault genuine offer. you're right about Coldplay btw
5 yrs later I still watch these videos lol
I didn't know Richard Paterson set up a whisky benevolent fund, good on him; he gets a lot of stick, some justified imo; but that's a great thing to do. I raise my glass of Kilkerran 12 to him.
And you can never go wrong with a Port Charlotte, I try to keep it as a mainstay on my shelf, though currently missing a bottle - need to rectify that soon! ;)
Just tried my first glass of Scotch Whiskey. Not much of a Whiskey drinker, but have lost my taste for beer, sort of. Thought I would give Dalmore 12 a try. My first impression hasn't gone so well, I am somewhat saddened by this. I will pick it up and try again . There was some things I liked. The roasted coffee taste was pleasing, I was overwhelmed by the cinnamon but disappointed I was unable to taste the fruits or sweetness. Is there anything I can do to dring out the sweetness? Jason Alexander
1 hour later: Never mind I have drank another glass. I'm getting some smokiness, orange and some cider or apple taste . The cinnamon died down some and coffee is still there. Interesting.
I just got a bottle of this today and it's very VERY nice dram.
I’m new to drinking whiskey and have bought a bottle of the cardhu gold reserve which is pretty smooth and nice will a single rock of ice - But your videos make the whiskey even more enjoyable 😂
May I suggest a video on Compass Box Great King Street Glasgow Blend. I find it to be an amazing blended scotch and a fantastic value.
It's awesome! The artist blend is good too, but the glasgow blend is better
As someone from farther west in the US than you guys, I gotta correct you: panning (as in panning for gold) is not the same thing as using a sluice, which is a gate for controlling the flow of water (such as down a sluice box, which has various levels that allow the gold to fall to the bottom before the water drains). #nerdtime
hahahahahahaha, that is totally true. I'm now going to create cocktails where we sluice the water into the glass but we "pan" the ice.
I'd be 100% on board with that. It'd make a great show if nothing else.
Man Dalmore 12 is way too good to hate... My favorite whiskey
My wife and I are expecting our first baby - a boy - in just a couple of months. I assume that smelling alcohol vapors is not good for an infant, but I don't want to wait until he's 8 years old either. What do you think, should he start his sommelier training around kindergarten?
I think kindergarten is a safe start :-) I let my boys try a sip of whiskey hoping to put them off it for awhile. unfortunately they both liked it. Now I have to keep an eye on my bottles.
if he can hold a sippy cup, he can whiskey... also, please don't take that seriously. it'd be insane to put whiskey in a sippy cup. wait until he can hold a thermos.
Monkey Shoulder just released Smokey Monkey, a whiskey exclusively for bars...how does that work? Do I have to ask a bar owner friend get me a bottle?
son of a bitch. We need this.
I would like to try the king alexander ...but I don't have a coupple of hundred dollars just sitting around!
Love your channel and thanks for getting me into some great whiskeys from your reviews, I know you love Dalmore 12y and Glenfarclas 15y but no mention of Dalmore Portwood 46.5% or Glenfarclas 105 60% vol ,these 2 put me in Whiskey heaven also your great reviews do 2.
"it could be that we're 4 videos deep ---- hic" love it!
Does anyone know what's different between Bruichladdich Port Charlotte "Scottish Barley" and Bruichladdich Port Charlotte "Islay Barley"? Are they actually two different scotch or just newer label?
Review Johnnie Walker blue and Gold not original… but its so readily available
Dalmore 12 My favorite!!!!
Instead of wetting the glass and throwing it on the floor you should start a Blendagedon ][.
hahahahaha. true.
LOL that joke delivery was so badgood. Daniels face already laughing before he gets it out. Great review guys keep them coming.
thanks, Adam
Is Dalmore peaty at all? I hate peat. With the smoke, is it overpowering? I found HP12 to have too much smoke for my tastes.
Has anyone else noticed that Daniel looks like Ragnar from Vikings
ug... don't encourage him.
You are wise and perceptive
He does look like a viking. wouldn't say Ragnar. But here is some viking looks to him. He should dring mead from a horn at some point. Or Whisk(e)y from a small horn (that is awesome btw.)
He wishes! Not even close
For the frugal lads and lasses among us, are there any inexpensive blended scotches that contain Dalmore?
Not sure!
Why the hate against Dalmor for using caramel colouring but no where near the same hate against Laphroig for doing the same in most of their whisky's
is the Dalmore "stag" removable? this alone will determine if I will buy it!
Don't! Just make an infinity bottle out of it. It is a nice looking bottle for that... "Baratheon" style.
Just wanna throw this out there, dalmore 12 and monkey shoulder is pretty popular and can be found at stores where the sell it at state minimum like Meijer, Walmart and Kroger. Here in Michigan monkey should is $35 and dalmore 12 is NO LESS then $70 at those stores and I’ve seen it marked up at smaller liquor stores. Just saying they are not in the same price range, in Michigan anyways.
That is some great whisky right there! Too bad my bottle of Dalmore is empty. Have to go buy a new one.
As I sip my second sheep dip, I've decided it's my new favorite. Cuz... I'm out of 4 roses.
Love the one you're with.
Who the hell is Coldplay?
Coldplay is this weird group of dudes who got famous when one of them married Gwyneth Paltrow.
..... wait for it......
*sound of heads exploding from every Coldplay fan on our channel*
Who the hell is Gwyneth Paltrow? Is she a Guy Clark groupie?
hahahahahahahah
Slam!
When Chuck Norris was in middle school, his English teacher assigned an essay: "What is courage?" He received an A+ for turning in a blank page with only his name at the top.
That Port Charlotte is quickly becoming one of my favorite whiskys.
yah, i was surprised how much i enjoyed it. thought, "what didn't i try this sooner?!"
Indeed, there is so much more to it than peat.
My favorite dad joke is still the one about the deers
I can't find your Cigar Malt review. Does anyone know what video it's in?
How creepy is it that I just got back from my local shop, came back with Monkey Shoulder and Dalmore 12 and this video is on my re recommended video list? And I didn’t search or anything about them recently. Both are very damn good. New favs
So glad i found you guys, im New to whiskey like a good year in and im totaly loving it. Realy love how you guys go about the video's and would totaly be kickass the share a night drinking whiskey with both of you! After those dalmore vids and the Patterson vids i watched i realy want some dalmore to try but cant dicide between the 12 and the 15 Since they are not just the same wiskey but older. Any straight difrences between the two that can help make a desicion?
Start with 12. It's a classic.
I love Dalmore 12! And y'alls videos! Can you do a review on water?
I think I'm going to pick up a Dalmore 12, I love monkey shoulder but want to try something a bit more complex.
I didn't like Monkey Shoulders. I gave the bottle to a friend of mine. But the Dalmore 12 is really nice.
Hey Daniel what do a window cleaner and an I.T. worker have in common? They both work with Windows.
that's bone chillingly bad. well done.
Remember “Threw it on the ground”? That’s Richard. FYI this is now $65 in Ohio. ☹️
Where is the review on the Willett pot still? It's sitting on the barrel stand behind you, but I can't find where you guys reviewed it! Did you not??? Rex, I need you to mooch it! For the people!!!!
12:50 I found a 2017 version of Rex's "bye". Please A/B compare to 2020. Thank you. ;)
You guys got it lucky, Dalmore 12 in Michigan is $70. I wish it was $40-$50😂
I wonder wether Daniel would do the throwing trick with that Macallan M too? I bet not :D
I'm a recent subscriber, but hooked! Keep up the good vids guys!!!
Yeah, I'm not sure I could keep up with that one. Although I've seen Richard throw 60yr old Dalmore on the floor.
Whiskey Vault Whiskey Vault crazy... I even twitched knowing this is just a 50$ bottle... Can't imagine throwing a 60year old 😮
@@WhiskeyVault Noooooo way! Well when you can, you can.
Review more SCOTCH plz!!!!
Just picked up talisker 10 and bunnahabhain 12. will you guys review bnnhnhn 12 so I can drink along with two videos? thanks gents, keep up the good "work"?
It's awesome. I'll add it in.
I love the videos and watch every night. Question: any suggestions for cigar videos, someone like you guys... not boring.
I haven't actually watched any, but If I stumble onto one, I'll mention it!
Who would have known that watching Machete Kills with a Glencairn of Dalmore 12 would be sooo enjoyable.
your videos are entertaining as usual but i was wondering if your can or are willing to do a top 5 or 10 choice for blended or single malt whiskeys from a certain region. not saying you should do one soon but maybe for a special event like obtaining 10K subscribers. i would like to say out of many of the whiskey reviewers on yourtube your is by far the most entertaining. thank you for all your effort on your channel, and Rex AKA "Darth Mooch", i mootched an entire bottle of Highland Park 12 from my friend because i said i wanted to try some Scotch! I hope i did you proud!
We're actually hoping to do a top ten list shortly!
I feel about Dalmore the way Danial feels about MaCallan. It's a decent whisky, with top shelf marketing. #MaCallanRules
i Just bought my first Dally, kinda agree. Nice but not that wonderful.
What's your take on coloring and chill filtering? Is it important?
i was just gonna be a douchebag and complain about you not even mentioning the taste notes, but then Rex came through, damn it and now i just have to enjoy your videos with nothing to complain about... because after watching almost all of your videos of course theres nothing ridiculous to complain about.. pure science
i'm shopping for lab coats. seems appropriate.
i mean check that intro again, whats not pin point accurate and informative and scientific about that
Dalmore is my favorite line of scotch!!
The prices has went up over the years though
So thanks to you guys (and my wife's displeasure, yes I am passing the buck to you and these 9000 like mind individuals) my collection is growing faster than Rex requesting Macallan M. As my piggy bank of whiskey grows it appears to be attracting more and more wild Mooches that congregate in my bar on Friday evenings. My only saving grace (for now) is that they are yet develop palates for the smokey and more complex Islay Scotch. So my question is, when you have the distillery up and running are you planning on distributing to Australia? And between now and then what are my chances of getting a sample of the BLENDAGEDDON, I mean a tube sock in the post?
May your glass only empty so you may have another.
We actually have a meeting about distribution with a heavy hitter later this week. The distribution company is waaaaayyyyy out of our distillery's league, but we called in a favor and will be asking all the questions we still dont have good info on - like international sales. fingers crossed.
Rex that's awesome to hear and I look forward to the opportunity to get my hands on some of Rex's finest "Technically Whiskey". Otherwise I suggest as a lesson in Moochism where we establish a whiskey exchange program where I send you a fine Australian bottle, and you take one from Daniel's collection and send it too me. You end up mooching a whiskey and I break even, Just don't tell Daniel.
sweet! i always wanted to try my hand at smuggling.
What about reviewing that scotch from the Kingsmen movie. Dalmore 62. I'm sure Rex would love another Dad Joke choice. ;)
i can be convinced
There's obviously no standard for the definition of a Dad Joke. I think the tribe has become many and varied and we're picking sides based on who we think is the best parent :) Rex is permissive and fun-loving, but Daniel is strong and authoritative. Chad's probably the best of the bunch but I just can't bring myself to think about that threesome :(
(I sided with Daniel. In the end, his rule is law)
respect mah authoritah!
As funny as it may sound, I can't get what a dad joke is! Is it lame? Is it outdated-like? Man I feel lost.
Dalmore 12 makes me think of Christmas.
15 is the sweet spot for me😎
Where are you finding this for $40 or $50 dollars as stated? Everywhere I've looked its $65 for 750 ml.