@BirdlandBigBand I couldn't agree more. Everyone is taking baby steps and shortcuts, and not even paying their dues to learn the craft about musicianship. My motto, 'Know thyself! You cannot know where your going, until you know where you came from!' True statement!
This is such fantastic insight………… to 1982. That is not a slam AT ALL btw. Nathan and these guys are giants, legends and heroes of mine. But the business has changed so much. The idea of someone putting up the budget for any of this to happen, having all the players in the room like that……… it almost never happens these days. Nonetheless everyone should aspire to get to this level musically it opens up your options so much.
Outstanding! I will definitely share this with other musicians that I know that want to make it in the music industry. Nathan East is an phenomenal bass player. I love the advice that Lionel Richie and Quincy Jones said!
Session Musicians....the most underrated type of musician...most of the time the only way you find out about them is through word of mouth or the Album credits....
I used to jam to his music all the time. I met him in a record store and he was kind of surprised that someone recognised him and his work. He's a cool guy.
absolute true.. thank you for this video ! the most musicians do not understand what it is. they play and do not listen to the other musicians.... I´ve seen it in over 800 shows i played. I had Bassplayer, absolut perfect in technic but NO groove and no interaction... than i had an beginner, he plays 2 years Bass and he just plays... He listen to me what i do and what the other musicians do, and it was perfect! That´s it !
I apply all these same principles to my career as a National Chart Topping Jazz Guitarist. To make music full time at the pro level you need three things. 1. A good attitude. 2. A good work ethic. 3. Good knowledge and skill on your instrument. If you are missing any one of these... I think you get the idea. This is what I tell artists how do not want to hear what I have to say. "Don't get bitter get better!" All of this is in our control Peace!
Probably why one has to look pretty hard for great music these days. Not that there is anything wrong with home studios, which I do have myself, but it's just not a typical place where magic happens.
Nathan is a great bass player. I think he is a humble and easy going guy. I have loved every song he ever played with Eric Clapton or Toto. Who else does he often play with? Peace to one and all. Groove on Nathan.
Awesome advice. Thanks, C7Black and Drew. I have two positive traits. I work hard and I have a great attitude. I am just lacking complete knowledge and skill on my instrument ,but I am getting better. One day, I might be on the "A" list.
You're right I have seen session players who do a great job in the recordings, but they're probably still underrated because they're playing with big names and those big names are usually Pop or R & B and what not. And people who mostly listen to pop just want to hear the vocalist. You know what I mean? The only people who could tell and are amazed by what the musicians are doing are ...well other fellow musicians who are already playing.
What a great video to have run into. I have twin boys (bass player & drummer) who aspire to be pro musicians & do studio work. Lionel's comments caught their attention as did the overall information about the A vs B player. Awesome words of advice.
RESPECT THIS TUNE!! d nigga can sing!! trust me fo real!!!! british talent at its best!!! D.T.G!!! is gonna spit on a nathan record when he's out of d bb yard!! the contract is already signed
they're probably underrated because they usually do not show off their technical abilities or their real music abilities as opposed to someone who is in a band, because if your a session musician for pop groups and hip hop groups or singers then forget it...you just have to play simple stuff like the video said...whatever goes with the video
the most important thing he talked about, in my opinion, is the whole attitude thing. There's a lot of players I've played with in the studio and it's like they slime you when you walk in the door! no good! The studio should be about the music, not about one guy's ego and opinion. When there is trust in the studio, that's when the magic happens. That's why guys get invited back.
I kind of agree. I mean these guys are top notch, the kind of guys that should be making innovative new music because of how easy music comes to them yet they are playing Weather Channel music. Seems a little crazy to me.
great video, great advice for any working musician. making a living as a musician is almost impossible these days. being versatile and prepared is essential. otherwise, go join the 40 hour a week desk job crowd.
I beg to differ....especially for the R&B and Hip-hop scene...Have you seen Aaron Spears or Ronald Bruner Jr or George "Spanky" McCurdy play? They're session and touring musicians and they kill all the time chops and all
I totally agree with BirdlandBigBand - good luck in becoming "A" list session players in this day and age. As a former working sideman (as well as frontman) in my younger days, this kind of "professionalism" can often turn into humdrum, boring, and paint-by-numbers formulaic music. Little or no inspiration, just "chops" and cool " 'tude". - play the appropriate stuff for the particular musical style or walk. God bless cats like Sonny Sharrock who would play with Herbie Mann and blow it all up!
Well, in the world of Phil Collins, Quincy Jones, and David Foster there still are A, and B players, what does not exist is the opportunity for new players to elevate to that stature. But there are still some guys(Alist) that come up with parts quicker, execute better, better sound, better attitude, etc. who producers default to.
Forever?...Neh lol. Sessions will come back. Maybe later than sooner but I think a form of "session" will emerge again. Time has a way of repeating itself and I think there always be a special place for great players aka A level session players as long as there is a earth. Hey we all thought the acoustic guitar was done 50+ years ago lol.
Exactly my point! It's not creative, it's hard wok, it's putting up with lots of nonsense. And especially in L.A. it's all about "better me than you" plus a fake "we're all friends". It's cut-throat. How about putting that in this happy-hand video? No, thousands of kids are being fed this nonsense while the musicians union hall is full of unemployed, great and experienced session players who are starving for work (and had plenty of work in the past). But no, it's their "attitude"...
Can't say i like nathan east all that much he's a skilled musician but i saw his bass clinic in vancouver last summer i was kind of disapointed in the way he was.
Yes i do, and i love Clapton... nothing wrong with that. He's also in Herbie Hancock's band with Vinnie Colaiuta and a couple other monster players. Why not do something original though. If you have the ability to play anything you want, why not try something different. Not a huge bitch of mine just something i was thinking at the time.
That guys wasn't that bad... not an ameteur.. though he wasn't that great either.. C list.. hahah ? What did this MacVaine say to cause so much anger dude?
These are the people who deserve recognition. True talent and professionalism at it's finest.
@BirdlandBigBand I couldn't agree more. Everyone is taking baby steps and shortcuts, and not even paying their dues to learn the craft about musicianship. My motto, 'Know thyself! You cannot know where your going, until you know where you came from!' True statement!
I have this DVD. THIS was so worth the money. It's amazing how much you catch with rewatching it.
This is such fantastic insight………… to 1982. That is not a slam AT ALL btw. Nathan and these guys are giants, legends and heroes of mine. But the business has changed so much. The idea of someone putting up the budget for any of this to happen, having all the players in the room like that……… it almost never happens these days. Nonetheless everyone should aspire to get to this level musically it opens up your options so much.
Outstanding! I will definitely share this with other musicians that I know that want to make it in the music industry. Nathan East is an phenomenal bass player. I love the advice that Lionel Richie and Quincy Jones said!
This should be posted in stone,a lot of musicians just don't get it...in the studio it's all about supporting and not all about "ME".
Wow!!! The living legend of percussion!!! : Paulinho DaCosta! Played on thousands of known LPs.
so great! nathan east is really good, the way he express the notes through his bass guitar. i love music!
Nathan East is my favorite, thanks! Please post anything else you have of him!
@dctw
michael thomson is very great guitarist ...
his sound and his feeling are really on top ...
OMG! I preach this DAILY to younger musicians. Unfortunately most don't, and never will, get it.
Session Musicians....the most underrated type of musician...most of the time the only way you find out about them is through word of mouth or the Album credits....
What a gem of a video!!!
I used to jam to his music all the time. I met him in a record store and he was kind of surprised that someone recognised him and his work. He's a cool guy.
Well said. Pearls of wisdom FOR FREE.
i met nathan east his really nice :D
The Business of Bass. A dvd put out by Nathan East for Aspiring Bassists and all musicians.
absolute true.. thank you for this video ! the most musicians do not understand what it is. they play and do not listen to the other musicians.... I´ve seen it in over 800 shows i played. I had Bassplayer, absolut perfect in technic but NO groove and no interaction... than i had an beginner, he plays 2 years Bass and he just plays... He listen to me what i do and what the other musicians do, and it was perfect!
That´s it !
Absolutely Amazing...
I apply all these same principles to my career as a National Chart Topping Jazz Guitarist. To make music full time at the pro level you need three things. 1. A good attitude. 2. A good work ethic. 3. Good knowledge and skill on your instrument. If you are missing any one of these... I think you get the idea.
This is what I tell artists how do not want to hear what I have to say. "Don't get bitter get better!" All of this is in our control Peace!
oyeee whit this guy you can play everything!!! he"s amaizing!!
And do not forget Steve Ferrone on drums. One of if not the best! He is awesome
oh shit, Nathan East is one of the best love this guy
Probably why one has to look pretty hard for great music these days. Not that there is anything wrong with home studios, which I do have myself, but it's just not a typical place where magic happens.
aptitude + attitude = altitude ... nice
Nathan is a great bass player. I think he is a humble and easy going guy. I have loved every song he ever played with Eric Clapton or Toto. Who else does he often play with? Peace to one and all. Groove on Nathan.
Maye McDonald Fourplay with Bob James and some session stuff for e.g. Brian Culbertson, Daft Punk
+Maye McDonald with sergio mendes and david foster, too
every word here is so true great video :)
Awesome advice. Thanks, C7Black and Drew. I have two positive traits. I work hard and I have a great attitude. I am just lacking complete knowledge and skill on my instrument ,but I am getting better. One day, I might be on the "A" list.
All these great musicans have worked with Anita Baker on all of her Albums
You're right I have seen session players who do a great job in the recordings, but they're probably still underrated because they're playing with big names and those big names are usually Pop or R & B and what not.
And people who mostly listen to pop just want to hear the vocalist.
You know what I mean?
The only people who could tell and are amazed by what the musicians are doing are ...well other fellow musicians who are already playing.
Very true you're right.....
Great video!
What a great video to have run into. I have twin boys (bass player & drummer) who aspire to be pro musicians & do studio work. Lionel's comments caught their attention as did the overall information about the A vs B player. Awesome words of advice.
11 years on ... did they make it?
Thank you God that I am a musician, I cant see myself without music. Life would be boring lol
RESPECT THIS TUNE!!
d nigga can sing!!
trust me fo real!!!!
british talent at its best!!!
D.T.G!!!
is gonna spit on a nathan record when he's out of d bb yard!!
the contract is already signed
they're probably underrated because they usually do not show off their technical abilities or their real music abilities as opposed to someone who is in a band, because if your a session musician for pop groups and hip hop groups or singers
then forget it...you just have to play simple stuff
like the video said...whatever goes with the video
He's a boss!
the most important thing he talked about, in my opinion, is the whole attitude thing. There's a lot of players I've played with in the studio and it's like they slime you when you walk in the door! no good! The studio should be about the music, not about one guy's ego and opinion. When there is trust in the studio, that's when the magic happens. That's why guys get invited back.
I kind of agree. I mean these guys are top notch, the kind of guys that should be making innovative new music because of how easy music comes to them yet they are playing Weather Channel music. Seems a little crazy to me.
True in all aspects.
damn right!!
Oh shit this was legendary
TONS OF RESPECT FOR LIONEL RICHIE!
He Played at church's when he was ~15 or so...Dont know 4 sure the age..Man hes good.
Nice
great video, great advice for any working musician. making a living as a musician is almost impossible these days. being versatile and prepared is essential. otherwise, go join the 40 hour a week desk job crowd.
wat r the songs in this video. they are superb
as a guitarist i'd love to just jam with Nathan and Steve Jordan.
Man!! Great groove, great musicians!!
But what's the title of the second song they play?!!
I beg to differ....especially for the R&B and Hip-hop scene...Have you seen Aaron Spears or Ronald Bruner Jr or George "Spanky" McCurdy play?
They're session and touring musicians and they kill all the time chops and all
Ouch - all the masters and some great advice too.
man, he's got some high action (3:29)...
he plays random access memories
@dctw thx:)he is awesome:)
I totally agree with BirdlandBigBand - good luck in becoming "A" list session players in this day and age. As a former working sideman (as well as frontman) in my younger days, this kind of "professionalism" can often turn into humdrum, boring, and paint-by-numbers formulaic music. Little or no inspiration, just "chops" and cool " 'tude". - play the appropriate stuff for the particular musical style or walk. God bless cats like Sonny Sharrock who would play with Herbie Mann and blow it all up!
Isnt the guy on the keys the same guy who played for michael jackson on tour during BAD?
he's just seperating the exceptional from the average players, there aren't any such lists irl
that 1 or that 1
maaann, look for albums of "lee ritenour", also "spyro gyra" and "four play" (the bassist is nathan. great sound at all!
Well, in the world of Phil Collins, Quincy Jones, and David Foster there still are A, and B players, what does not exist is the opportunity for new players to elevate to that stature. But there are still some guys(Alist) that come up with parts quicker, execute better, better sound, better attitude, etc. who producers default to.
@qbeo2912
"anybody knows what the first song is???"
Red Baron from Billy Cobham's 1973 album Spectrum
@JimmyCheesenip He's Lionel Richie
@C7Blackjack MY Dad is friends with nathan East he has played with alot of people even MIchael Jackson
Forever?...Neh lol. Sessions will come back. Maybe later than sooner but I think a form of "session" will emerge again. Time has a way of repeating itself and I think there always be a special place for great players aka A level session players as long as there is a earth. Hey we all thought the acoustic guitar was done 50+ years ago lol.
Does anyone know what this clip was taken from? i'd love to check out the full version
@UK2AK Can you please provide me with the title of the full DVD? Already tnx!
you sad it!
@Mewsinghan Bob James
Exactly my point! It's not creative, it's hard wok, it's putting up with lots of nonsense. And especially in L.A. it's all about "better me than you" plus a fake "we're all friends". It's cut-throat. How about putting that in this happy-hand video? No, thousands of kids are being fed this nonsense while the musicians union hall is full of unemployed, great and experienced session players who are starving for work (and had plenty of work in the past). But no, it's their "attitude"...
@redinkaos
Nathan East: The Business of Bass (2004)
Can't say i like nathan east all that much he's a skilled musician but i saw his bass clinic in vancouver last summer i was kind of disapointed in the way he was.
Yes i do, and i love Clapton... nothing wrong with that. He's also in Herbie Hancock's band with Vinnie Colaiuta and a couple other monster players. Why not do something original though. If you have the ability to play anything you want, why not try something different. Not a huge bitch of mine just something i was thinking at the time.
Steve Ferrone plays drums for Tom Petty
whats the name of this song????? please
anybody knows what the first song is???
What is the
A-list and B-list???
It's just some Blues jam they're probably playing as a warm up
aye?
Do they have a CD of this?
Who are they recording for here?
Why is Greg's picture mirrored?!
What's the name of the song played from 0:41?
Whats the title of the last song?
what's the name of this video?????!
PLEASE
+AndresCruzBass
Nathan East Business of bass
What song were they recording??? ANYONE??
Need the name of track in 2:09 please ...?
What's the name of the guy at 1:30?
jesus, it's like zappa's yo cats
who is the guitar player?
michael thompson
????
A-lister cup the balls it seems...
That guys wasn't that bad... not an ameteur.. though he wasn't that great either.. C list.. hahah ? What did this MacVaine say to cause so much anger dude?
ja sam gej