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0:00 I don't do weapon reviews
0:40 120s & 140s
1:15 How accurate are you?
2:25 Punching down
3:00 Loose SBMM
4:10 Why Igneous?
5:06 The rolls
6:16 Conclusion Игры
Ignorant Hammer lost quickdraw snap :(
My main weapons are: DMT, TLW, Lumina, Thorn, Hawkmoon, Rose, and Igneous.
Chunk damage into cleanup is the winning formula of FPS games rn
Good point, didn't really consider the loss in swap abilities. Was mainly focused on dueling
Looking forward to the half-grapple press video 😁 better come with File Select music
My old Iggy has 80 range and handling. I don’t know why I’ve been grinding for a new one bc I probably won’t use it -_-
Good thing eye of the storm gives 30 handling
You're my number 1 cammy!
Yeah, it’s a bummer. I still want to try slickdraw,
Its model is incredibly clean, visually-pleasant, has good sights
Its SFX are distinctive and fit the gun perfectly
Its stat package is excellent no matter how you choose to distribute it, and its perk pool (especially the old one, jury’s out on the new one until people get and use the new one more) is stacked
I think it is genuinely the most perfect legendary gun ever made for PvP usage
Exactly how I feel, it has so much going for it
Keep away is one of my favorite perks since the RF nerf, super excited that i can get it on igneous
I had been using 140s because the reload speed made them feel so much better, but this makes it absolutely clear why I should Get Good with a 120. Thanks jazz!
eyy no worries, good luck with the 120s man :)
Yeah if you like a snappy reload an Igneous with Rapid Hit is what you want, it feels like a 140 reload
That or Keep Away
Also, I have Ig Hamm with Keep Away and the reload is about the same as a 140 (better with solar loaders).
typical that the weekend you can get adept igneus there's people going round with full auto shotgun ammit oneshotting people :(
yup great timing eh
Join the wagon, it make igneous super easy to farm. Bungie also said they wont ban and enjoy it while it last
@@Endless10ppp I had a much harder time going flawless with this glitch. I was still able to get it done but it's a lot harder when rounds can be won so randomly
Ya I'm not playing until they fix the glitch lol
it’s actually more balanced now then ever before. quickest flawless i’ve ever ran. just gotta learn the play style. shotgun hand cannon is the way to go. trust me this is more balanced than if it were
normal
I think the fragile focus eye of storm roll is the perfect yin Yang synergy to guarantee you’ll always have a perk active
Yeah that's a good alternative to keep away. I just the bonus to 5% bonus to accuracy and boost to reload speed are a bit more useful than the extra 10 range in fragile focus
i wish i got a Keep away roll but i ended up getting fragile opening oh well i give up on farming one
@@jazzinyourfaces
I personally don't like how it means the gun feels completely different from pre-engagement, to in-the-fight.
@@gravity-arbor Well I think the idea is that eye of the storm compensates for what you lose in fragile focus. Definitely depends on the range you're at though
You clearly put a lot of time gathering info for this one, and it’s delivered in a way that is concise and super entertaining. Appreciate your hard work and hoping for more 🙏
I appreciate that!
Love the way you made the video. Short, engaging and efective. Props
I'm happy that came through, thank you :)
This has to be one of the best destiny videos made well put together and nothing better than hearing about weapon reviews from people who main that weapon
Thanks! I tried to be as authentic as possible with this one
Definitely man im dead serious I would say a good follow up video would be a tips video talking about how u personally use the gun and handle situations for the people who just now are using 120s (such as myself) if u haven’t already made a video like this
I love your breakdown on why you prefer 120s. I haven’t heard this side of the story before. I can’t wait for igneous to come back after this crafted weapon glitch ends.
Thank you! It was a challenge putting all my feelings down in a concise way so I'm glad that people are being receptive to it
ran into you in altars of summoning today, had to stop by again to say your vids help out a lot. I always rewatch the map opening videos to brush up before playing trials. and the new video style is great.
Yeah man I appreciate you reaching out again, it's great running into people in game that have seen my stuff 😁Glad you think so! Hoping to get some more map openings out soon
As a destiny HC Shotgun vet since D1 vanilla...this video is amazing. Instant sub. How have I not seen your content before?!
All your points especially punching down are very valid
Thanks so much 😊
You made to try it out again... and im loving it, such a fun weapon! On the other hand the prodcution on this video is on a another level! Keep it up!
Thank you so much, glad I was convincing haha
Hey mate, I don’t typically comment on videos but the production quality of this was phenomenal. Loved the music, the explanation and the gameplay. Very well done, thanks for the amazing review.
Hey thanks so much, I appreciate it! ♥
Just going to piggy back off of this as I was coming to say the same thing... Top quality, earned a sub and I'm going to check out your other videos now 👌
Just got recommended your videos via a D2 clan member and wow... your incredible. Liked+sub+Commented. Look forward to watching more videos
Eyy thanks so much ♥
Added you on Bungie, great vid covering an iconic weapon, I never got an original adept this was my first on I had a regular roll with Quickdraw and snap which has held me over but finally having an adept with a decent roll hits different!
thanks!! and congrats on the new adepy, I'm sure it will treat you well
What an utterly fantastic, well made video. Glad this showed up on my feed. Well done, great points and presentation
Hey, thanks so much Nomad! 😁 means a lot coming from you
The best Igneous adept roll I got this weekend was encore/eye of the storm. It’s not the best roll ever but the thing that makes the gun so good for me is how smooth it feels on controller. I still have my old one with quickdraw/snapshot that I fell in love with. I hate using 120s but Igneous is the exception. While I would’ve preferred keep away or rapid hit, encore is still pretty nice for that range and stability boost after the first kill and EotS is just the icing on the cake.
I've actually never used a weapon with encore on it. I've gotten a few to drop with it so I'll give it a try after the glitch is fixed. I think that original one you have is great tho
Glad you're liking it on controller!
@@jazzinyourfacesyeah, encore is better now after the buff. You get +5 range and +8 stability with each stack. Headshot final blows give you double stacks so you’d have +10 range and +16 stability after the first headshot kill. The buff lasts 7 seconds and can be refreshed after every kill. Pretty nice, isn’t it?
I love when people stick to a weapon for a long time. Made me wish I didn't stop using Piece of Mind, I LOVED using that in PVP (love the sound too). Being the "Igneous guy" is a cool badge to wear.
Thanks for saying that, I really like that perspective 😊 kinda makes me sad about getting a new roll on my igneous, the tracker on my current one is somewhere around 17k
@@jazzinyourfaces I have a long way to go LOL. I think 600ish is like the highest I have on any particular weapon but I'm also not much of a PVP guy for the most part.
@@irunthepeg yeah man that's still a solid amount for not playing too much PvP
I thought the 4k on my igneous was crazy! GG! Great video.
This guy is spitting, ttk diff between 120s and 140s is mostly irrelevant when you peek shoot
tyty 🙏 yeah peek shooting plays a huge roll in it
I got a rapid hit rampage one from seasonal challenge reward a couple years ago. I love it so much. Never been a kill clip enjoyer. Awesome vid
Thanks! If you can, I'd try for another one with something other than rampage. It doesn't as much now that it can't 2 tap as easily, and other perks in that column can make the gun feel even better
Excellent video, I'm glad I get recommended this.
Thanks so much 😁
Sweet video. Clean and to the point. I've used 120s A LOT. Cutting my teeth on Sturm in year 1. Its good to see some of the instinctive reasons why I tended to gravitate towards them being explicitly listed. Its funny because I typically don't gravitate to "slow and big damage" in most games/FPSes except for Destiny. The importance of maximizing damage output while minimizing damage received along with general consistency is what kept me using them. A 120 on a team with 140s can really put in some work with team shots.
Sturm (with Catalyst) has a stat line that is quite silly but Igneous is far more modular and does not gobble up your exotic slot. I wasn't really big on Igneous when it first was introduced ( I had OK rolls if I recall) but In this second coming I've really taken a shine to it.
Thanks man! Yeah I don't know what it is, Sturm is great but even with the stats doesn't hit like Igneous to me
This explains why my rapid hit + disruption break bottom dollar feels so good in 3’s.
Love the video and how informative it was!! The god roll you have is the one i got from my very 1st win in trials! It definitely feels so smooth to use, now to wait for the crafting glitch to go away 😂
Eyyy that's a lucky drop! Yeah I can't wait, it's been a real pain
good and fun analysis! i just went into trials this past weekend to get a new adept and i got hammer/ricochet/keep away/moving target/range MW! i wanted a little more handling bc i want to use adept icarus, but holy shit i love this gun! it’s absolutely worth the grind
What a great to the point video! Yeah! I love this hc, and I have been honestly struggling in this meta. I went flawless today and got two 4,5 out of 5 rolls. And yeah… I am enjoying them soo much. Really brought the joy in pvp back and the igneous seem to fit my plat style.
You always have top tier videos, nice work man
Thanks so much!
I got 2 adepts yesterday. Rapid moving targ and slickdraw eye of the storm which synergizes really well and feels absolutely insane. Felt like I had ophids on my titan
That's sick, I haven't tried out slickdraw yet so I'll keep my eye out for one
After some time with slickdraw I mostly dislike it. Have gone back to my old celerity rolls @@jazzinyourfaces
Your video was very nice to watch in terms of the editing and production 👌🏽👌🏽
Thanks so much 😊
I have a smallbore, ricochet rounds, fragile focus, moving target with a stability masterwork, and it’s honestly the best feeling weapon I’ve used in a while. I have 100 range with fragile and 70 stability with a stability mod, it just feels so consistent and crisp. Keep away would be nice but I think this will be the roll I stick with!
Great roll man!
really good video. well structured and concise.
appreciate it 😊
Been using my old hammer with quick draw/ celerity or rapid/ celerity and figured I didn’t need the new igneous. Boy I was wrong! I got me a keep away/ EOS roll this weekend and my god , I vaulted the old ones so fast! Best feeling HC ived used in a long time. Btw you just got a new sub
I've been running Igneous since Season of the chosen and It's by far my favorite PvP Hand cannon.
The roll I've been rocking is:
Fluted, Light mag, Quickdraw and Celerity. (Handling MW) and Adept +10 range mod.
So the stats end up being.
83 Range
43 Stability
82 Handling
63 Reload
This roll has been the literal backbone of my PvP loadout.
The reason I still value Quickdraw is because it makes it incredible for finishing someone off in case you hit a body shot with an Aggressive sniper and the remaining 82 handling just makes it feel snappy without having to switch it in.
as for Light mag I just value reload a lot and since its both reload and range it just suited my taste perfectly.
Yup that's great for swapping! I used to have a roll just like that, but when cleaning my vault, i decided to stick with the rapid hit/moving target combo
Great video! I’m too old to be a great player anymore, so struggle to get flawless. Got carried and fortunate enough to get a godroll Immortal, and as a result of the glitch this week I actually ended up getting flawless here too for a second time ever! I managed to snatch an envious roll of this weapon: Fluted, Ricochet, K.A, EoTS, Range MW, adept. My PvP friends hate me for getting it!
What the hell! congrats man, that's awesome, really happy for ya 😁
That roll will bring you to many more wins I'm sure
Man u literally convinced me to use 120 rn u deserve that sub and like keep up the good work ❤️
Haha welcome to the club, thank you ♥
Subbed. Never seen your content before, but glad I did today.
Thanks! Hopefully you like the Trials Openings series, that's what I mostly put out
Oh I was expecting this... Lol, great vid
I had to 🤠 thanks!!
This was a great video! Thank you.
Thanks so much :)
I got an encore opening shot roll on an adept version and I absolutely love how it feels on controller, my personal god roll would be encore eye of the storm, but having that extra range and accuracy on the 1st shot of every fight pretty much is nothing to complain about lol
Never tried it with encore tbh, what's the reason that you like it so much?
@@jazzinyourfaces I think it's just because it's relatively easy to get a stack going, you don't need to do anything special it's literally just shoot the gun get a kill and play the game lmao, the extra stack as well for getting a precision kill is really nice and on controller at least is very very noticeable, I also think I like it a lot with opening shot cuz you're getting a +35 range bonus after 1 precision kill which can catch a hell of a lot of players out
Great video the quality was amazing Ty
Glad you enjoyed!
I just got igneous last week and it's dramatically improved PvP for me.
High quality video bro keep it up
Appreciate it 😁
Thanks for posting this.
Adding you!
No prob 😁 and dope!
Banger video my dude
Appreciate it!
Great content man keep it going
Thanks!!
I just chuckled at the rule of "only 1 120 per team" and then closed it
I’ve been an avid user of 120s and felt they had potential back when they were 110s. I have collected every 120 I can based on how unique they are perk potential wise. Despite not being able to get a feel for Igneous despite how much of a monster it is on paper it has my respect nonetheless. My loyalty still probably lies with Bottom Dollar in the energy and Steady Hand in my Kinetic…
I was a huge fan of 110s too! I remember pairing them with the arc titan perk that gave a damage buff when sliding over ammo bricks and getting easy 2 taps
I know a lot of other people that stick to Bottom Dollar too. The explosive rounds on it really makes it punch
Great video! I'm going to try again after weapons go back to normal tomorrow
Thanks! Hopefully the patch comes out soon, still waiting
@@jazzinyourfaces fingers crossed!
Your video quality is top tier. GG
Thanks so much 😊
Great Video and have to agree with you about the Igneous Hammer being so good. Have got a few including 5 Adept. The 2 recent Adept Rolls I got were RF and frenzy or Incandescent with a handling MW and Fragile Focus and Golden Tricorn with a Reload Speed MW. Not the Best. The Igneous I use the most has Rapid Hit and Opening Shot with a Range MW. Keep up the Great Work.
i want that rapid hit+os roll -_-
damn good video brother, love the music
Appreciate it! It's from Furi, which is a fantastic game
Yours is my absolute favorite D2 content. I learn so much every time. Keep it up man and thanks for the vid!
Thank you so much ♥ I'm glad you like this different style of video
The editing in this video-oh my!
Ty ty, it's the most amount of time I've put into a video so far 😁
Great video, subbed
Awesome, thank you!
Ive been rocking encore and moving target on my main igneus, feels great sitting at 90 range and 100 about 80% of the time with encore. If i had the adept, more handling or stability for the adept mod but its so good i personally think it doesnt need it.
Hope it comes back soon! I got some decent rolls but still want Keep Way opening shot
Yeah hopefully!
Great video, just found the channel def earned a sub !
Awesome, thank you!
Hey Jazz. Thanks for explaining why 120s are can hang in this current sandbox and show me why Igneous Hammer is the best outta the family. I might try it out because I did reach 100 kills with one I found in the Vault and it felt really good to use in Crucible. As I am typing this the DDOSING is still active which is pushing me away, but when it's gone I might take Igneous for a spin once again. And for Trials, I might hit you up in case I want to do them but do not expect much out of me.
Yeah I've been trying to get into lobbies for hours, nothing. Hopefully you're able to grab another one!
And yeah for sure, hit me up whenever
you may have mentioned this and I missed it, but one of the most significant benefits of 120s when playing at a high skill bracket is facilitating team shot kills. If you’re playing with a coordinated team one or two 120 body shots could be enough to completely swing a round in your team’s favor.
Yup, I mentioned team shotting a few times, but didn't focus on it too much. You're definitely right
Didn’t expect to hear toxic avenger in a review. Good review at that too
Thanks 😁 Furi is one of my favourite games and it felt fitting
just completed trials this weekend and managed to get a fragile focus eye of the storm and it feels really strong and good to use would recommend
Yeah fragile focus is a very close contender with keep away, good roll!
Just copped a fragile focus moving target/eye of the storm roll. Looking forward to trying it since historically ive not liked igneous
Great roll! Would give it a go after all this craziness dies down
@@jazzinyourfacesYeah real. Was like, "let's try it out now" and remembered it is ammit hell rn lmao
thats was good, you got my subscribe bud good shit
Thanks 😊
Got lucky I played this morning before everybody was running glitched guns and managed to pick up an adept with smallbore, flared magwell, encore and eots with a stability masterwork. First quickplay game using it I get a we ran. When encore procs and gets those stacks its super nasty.
Beautiful roll! Yeah, because I was finishing up this, I had to slog through a card with the glitches. Most miserable card of my life lol, but I got it thankfully
@@jazzinyourfaces yeah its bad. I was going to farm just to see if I could get a roll with ricochet rounds and looked in fireteam finder and everybody was asking people to run it. Either Bungie had this planned out to run like scorched or alot of people are going to get banned. Every time a gun with high anticipation drops there is always an issue. With Exalted Truth it was the infinite passage turn in, with immortal it was the easy adept farm and with this its Trials: scorched. Glad you picked up an adept though, especially with the glitch hell that is Trials today. 👍
Mine with celerity is my baby. Never getting rid of it, even with the new perks i don't think i will not use my old roll over newer ones.
Yeah fair enough, I used celerity for a while. Have you tried taking it off since? I thought I wouldn't be able to go without it but its honestly not bad
Igneous is so good I had to come back to this video to write this comment, I fell in love with this weapon and my roll , I can actually win 1v1s, 1v2s, peak shot more effectively bc of the slower rpm. I’m on console and I’ve never used a HC this much or been this affective at it
thats awesome man! I'm really happy for ya, its a great feeling to find something that works for you. Good luck on your iggy journey 😁
Good luck yourself chief, cracking video 👍
Thanks so much!
Shame about the weapon glitch. Trials is nuts this weekend.
Clean af intro gah dayum
Thanks 😁
Great vid!!
Thanks!
Hey man idk if you will see this comment but i gave you a follow. Just found you! I love my igneous adept with rapid hit celerity! Ive shared so many of your videos with my new friends that want to pvp that way they understand maps better and positioning! Im glad i found you bro
Hey thanks so much, I really appreciate you sharing em. I try to make these videos as helpful as possible😁
Hopefully I'm able to put out some more map content for ya. And that's a great roll!
Damn this was a really good video sir.
Thanks so much! I spent a lot longer on it than my Trials guides
What a great video instant sub :)
Thanks so much! ♥
It's super weird b/c "I only need two crits" was my justification for running 120s over 140s when I was super new at the game and was looking kind of askance at guns like Ace of Spades, even though that was the most popular gun at the time. I got off Igneous and DMT for Cantata, then off hand cannons entirely when AE was new and much harsher, and now things have come full circle where I want to play 120s again and I'm using that old Igneous from way back then (QD/Snap is the only old one I kept, which is a huge regret haha)
I just wish I could hit the broad side of a barn with Sturm. On paper it's soooo good, but either the model is wonky to me or that slightly lower AA is more important than I realized.
Sturm with the black ornament “Dream of a New World” or original ornament “Symbiosis” both improve the model & sights for me
I think the black one is the cleanest but used Symbiosis for a long time, it’s my favorite kinetic 120
Yeah it definitely sounds like something that's just beginner friendly, but after going back and forth between 140s and 120s for a while, I realized I just performed better when I didn't need to be perfect all the time
Nice video man. If I have time, I would love to play a few games this weekend. It's been rough with the Ammit bug but I managed to get flawless with some serious luck.
Thanks! Yeah I ended up getting a flawless card too, was the worst card of my life lol
Absolutely awful! farming is a nightmare.@@jazzinyourfaces
please i'm begging you, make another 7 minute video abt anything. this video went so hard
Haha you got it, cooking on something rn :)
I’ve come to realize I straight up like igneous more than just about every 140 expect hawkmoon. A gun is more than just its stats it’s about how it feels and a lot of times I can never explain what’s giving it that feeling because it could had average or below average stats and still feel "right" or be a stat monster and I still won’t like it. Igneous has both high stats and feels amazing to me. One thing I’ve noticed with igneous is that the red dot stays visible even at the peak of its recoil which one might not notice unless paying attention but it helps a lot in fights.
Yeah man I hear you, feel is a huge part of it. I didn't really have time to get into that but thats a good thing to bring up
Thats crazy I just got on Yt and seen this video in my recommended after getting a adept and subscribed my roll is
hammer forged/fluted
high caliber/appended mag
keep away
moving target/eots
stability mw 🔥🔥🔥
Damn I have almost that exact roll lol.
Interesting data. Thanks!
You have good taste 😌
I don't have an Igneus Hammer yet, but i've been using Malediction quite a bit and it's been feeling pretty fantastic for me.
That's a great one too. When you get a chance, I'd hop into trials and go for a regular drop of Igneous, just so you can compare and see which one you like most
also i love your content and i hope we can see you uploading more videos more frequently in the future 🥰❤️
Thanks so much ♥♥♥
My drops on the past all sucked, so I just kept one with high-cal, encore and elemental cap. Largely because it had the lighthouse shader, which you couldn’t obtain any other way, but it turns out to be a nice combination for anything voidy.
Still love my True Proph with OS and Explo, that thing was a beast in the 120 meta. First primary for habe over 1000 PvP kills for me.
True Prophecy is a great one too, Igneous was just the first one that I fell in love with. Do you think you'll try for one this weekend?
Your video’s are what got me into 120s, and your guides helped me get my first ever flawlesses, so thank you! Another great video here, very insightful. Good luck getting your god rolls too!
Aw that's awesome, glad you've been inspired, and thank you!
Great point. Unfortunately, Sunshot exists and I will continue to use that until the universe implodes
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Really looking forward to try a Ticket with you sir 👍
Yeah man!
Thx, I get frustrated with hand cannons cuz I'm on controller, I hope this work for me
If you spec into stability, it should be a lot easier to handle on controller. Good luck!
great video, amazing points, and you basically worded what i've been thinking in a matter of minutes. easiest subscribe button i've ever pressed.
Appreciate it 😊 I've been putting this script together for weeks, which is a lot more than the hour or two it takes to put the openings script together
I got RapidHit/Opening but I think I want a KeepAway/MovingTarget. I recently became a huge fan of Moving Target, I had a “god roll” Messenger with RapidHit/Headseeker and although I enjoyed it… I gave MovingTarget/Headseeker and try and it immediately became my favorite roll. Same thing happened with my Eye of Sol, I always used my Snapshot/OpeningShot roll because it was the “god roll” but after pulling out a vaulted Snapshot/MovingTarget roll I made that my main. I underestimated the aim assist of Moving Target
Yeah man, moving target is amazing
My best adept is smallbore,ricochet,keep away moving target with range mw. I love it😊
Could you do a video on how to counter supers when you yourself or your team doesn't have one? And the best actions to take to give yourself the best chance at winning. I'm not sure how much substance this idea has for a video, but I wanted to hear your opinion on it? Thanks again for another awesome video man.
Hm yeah I'd have to really think about that one. Nothing comes to mind and I'd want to make sure I have something good to say in a video. But thanks for the suggestion!
@@jazzinyourfaces No problem. Did you snag a good roll on the Igneous Hammer this weekend?
@@popasaurusrexrex7019 Yeah I got a few good rolls! One that almost copies the god roll I had from before, but now with alacrity so I'm happy. Still no good keep away one unfortunately
@jazzinyourfaces You're gonna be a demon with that weapon man. I managed to snag one with Keep Away, Eye of The Storm and Another with Rangefinder, Moving Target, and an interesting one for sixes with Rapid Hit, Golden Tricorn.
Still got an old one with rapid hit and moving target, acquired 2 new ones with encore/eye and another one with keep away / opening. Decent.
Good stuff! Id try that keep away one, sounds crispy
Make a video on Bottom Dollar. Id love your take on it. I use Surplus/Explosive Payload over my Quickdraw/Celerity roll
I'll think about it. Like I said, I don't really do weapon reviews. I only made this because Igneous is special to me
the furi background music is fire
Thanks, it's one of my favourites!
listening to your voice is just soothing 🤌
Aw thanks man 😁 I don't like recording myself speak so that's nice to hear
Ya we might have a situation with getting Into trials this week
😬worst card of my life
Ony 120 that can keep up with igneous is the round robin when its crafted. That thing is a stat monster and with the artifact mods its always stable AF and those nano rockets are insane. Round robin with matador and ohpidians is my go to for trials. Sadly the bubble titans with PKs and immortals make it worst which is a damn shame.
Great video! I was super stoked to beat my head against the brick wall that is trials to get an adept buuuuuuuut bungie broke the game again. Wooo.
I KNOW! I was just about to hop on, what a bummer
I long await the adept Igneous Hammer for seasons, and we got this week, damn you bungo.
Yeah man 😑
I got me an adept w/fragile focus, EOTS roll with extended and range MW. Can't wait for the glitch to be over so i can try it out
That's a wonderful roll!
I have a fluted barrel, ricochet rounds, keep away, eye of the storm roll with a handling masterwork and it feels very good
Very lucky, wasn't able to get a keep away, eye of the storm myself
@@jazzinyourfaces it was my second roll after going flawless and I haven’t gotten another one since, so many heal clips Omg
I prefer 140s in general as an archetype however my favourite hand cannon being the igneous is the only 120 I feel comfortable using. The other 120s just don’t click for me. I used to use Eyasluna and Palindrome back in Destiny 1