Land Rover Discovery 3 - How to diagnose the low pressure fuel pump - Diesel filter change
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
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Did you ever get a very high estimate from your service shop? Do you think you can trust them?
Replacing the high pressure fuel pump on this LR3 was estimated to be a 4000€ repair with body off.
We show you how we got it fixed for 40€ and some good luck.
Enjoy the video.
Vera & Christian
Robbie's Guide To The Low Pressure Fuel System of the Discovery 3 / LR3
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We really can't trust dealers. Nothing like knowing how to do it.
A hug from Portugal
This is true in Australia too. Better choose your local mechanic carefully too.
I know someone who went off-roading on a discovery and discovered hiking cause it brook down Land Rovers are very needy
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When the option allows I am moving next door to you Christian as anyone with a Land Rover needs a good friend like you and every man needs a Vera to keep them in place great video and as always good advice
😃😅👍 🙋♀️ Vera
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Your friend is lucky to know both of you, great job on the repair of his Discovery. Your channel deserves a huge lift in subscriber numbers👌
That is what we hope for the future. We could provide so much more content if the subscribers, but most importantly views would increase. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
There is a drain fitting on the filter, put a pipe on it and slacken it to drain filter, did it make a mess when you took the filter off?
another great video . Christian I think the service of this car was made mostly by pen not by tools
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@@Vera_and_Christian $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Most of us know where to look to do this, but your videos save us the time and gives us all entertainment along the way! Great stuff as always keep it coming...
I love my 2010 discovery 4 2.7 tdv6 mostly because of your fantastic videos. I love the way you explained the correlation of the low pressure fuel system to the high pressure system. That explains the sensor thinking the rail pressure is too high because of the difference between the two systems.
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You and your wife made me smile, thank you . Top guy.
Once again, your brilliant analysis and attention to detail has delivered a wonderful result for Fabian and an entertaining video for us. Thank you Christian and Vera.
Excellent video Christian. I think all dealers are on the make. Here in the UK I have a Mercedes and am lucky to have a very good mechanic, works for himself so only does the work that is necessary to keep the car in good order and safe.
Another great and very interesting video, love it when Vera drifts off subject and we're watching the dog in the garden while Christian explain about fuel filter problems.
Just happened on this by accident, found myself completely mesmerised 👀. Love ❤️ Land Rover, hate the bills 💰😡!!......Every L/R owner should subscribe to this channel. You made DIY repair look so simple!!....Keep them coming....Excellent!!
😀👊🙋♀️ Vera
I love this video. Especially the support and enthusiasm of the wife. I also love the candid narrative of this video. Keep ut up guys! Stay safe and healthy!
😊👍🙋♀️ Vera
This is the best part of RUclips, truly people helping people. Thanks, great video.
Land Rover Dealership, Service, minor or major, at least £1,000. Local private dealer full service £250. Discovery(s) owner for 20 years.
Where are you based?
Christian great to see you helping another Discovery owner. I always change the diesel filter yearly along with the front and rear diff oil. Another great video.
We do that too, especially the differential oil. 👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
Was für Differenzial Öl nimmst du ?? Und für die mittlere sperrdiffernzial ???
I drive a petrol v8 lr3 yet here I am watching this video. You guys make this stuff fun to watch.
Thanks, we can only dream of a Petrol V8 LR 3 👍. 🙋♀️ Vera
Thanks Christian. We can learn a lot from your demeanour in handling problems.
😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Christian thank you for the reply decent of you and much appreciated - yes I saw your postings of your camera on the middle prop shaft bearing - I will give it a try
I had the first version, Landrover Discovery. I had a noise near my feet. I took it to the dealer, and they replaced the hydraulic pump. I think that was a A$ 2000.00 job under warranty. The noise was still there. I did my own investigation and found it to be the steering column seal where it goes through the firewall. One squirt of silicone fixed the noise!!! The motto of this story and your video is "learn how to do your own maintenance".
👍 That's what our mission is. 🙋♀️ Vera
One of the very best videos I have seen on car maintenance amusing informative with brave presentations thank you merci beaucoup!
😊👍🙋♀️ Vera
Love your videos: always learn something, always have a giggle. Thank you from the UK!
Excellent video... very entertaining, good use of humour and of course, well done to “Robbie” for initially showing how to diagnose the fault. Many thanks guys for illustrating how to make this fix. Big Hugs from U.K. 👍🏻
😃Thank you 😊🙋♀️ Vera
Thank you for your kind complement on the guide. A somewhat late reply I know - I only became aware of this video and the link to the original guide when it appeared as a 'suggested' video today.
Christian and Vera great video and presentation from over the pond,,))))) 🇬🇧 fabian Christian will point you in the right direction))))
😅👍🙋♀️ Vera
Another great video by you both. Sending you good health Christian & Vera. Looking forward to the next one.
I wish I had seen your video before I changed the fuel filter and sensor after getting an error message. Dealer wanted €2200. and I purchased the parts and fitted everything for €120. OK my fingers still hurt but now I know how I should have done it - thanks guys.
👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
Great video, nice and clean explanations. My 2006 Disco 2.7 TDV6 HSE ran for years. Biggest issue I ever had was a bad battery that caused a million dashboard faults. Changed battery and it has ran faultless since. These cars are very solid, and easy to work on. Good job!
Had the same year and model cost me a fortune while I had it. 3 compressors, 2 handbrake modules, multiple bushes in the suspension. Brake servo and master cylinder. Scrapped it at 10 years old when the main stealer wanted 6000 to replace the brake system. Biggest bag of crap ever.
German engineering ingenuity personified by these guys. Kudos...
Had the a similar experience in the 90's with an Austin Montego! Had it serviced at the local dealership, marked the relevant filters and none had been changed when I checked the next day. Seems this kind of practise never went away.
Enjoyed your videos, hats off to your patience working on LR Discoveries. I gave up on my mine after 7 year ownership and have gone back to my Range Rover classics, as they are easier to work on.
I'd love to have a Range Rover classic. 👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
Great movie. You are amazing, Christian. I wish you lived so far away. It would be nice to have a neighbor like you.. 👍
Excellent video.I have just bought my first land rover sport .before that i had a jaguar.My Jaguar was diagnosed with a high rail pressure sensor fault.So bieng a squirell like you i eliminated all the expensive options and identi]fied it was the fuel filter.Problem sorted.Another sign was the MPG was showing 56 very erconomical after the filter change is was reading 42mpg.No more fuel starvation..I learn something new from your fantastic videos and am sure the knowledge will be very usefu as i dig into my LLSport.
Thank you Christian and Vera
😊🙏🙋♀️Vera
We like your vlog . I owned 3 Discoveries in the 90‘s , and had the most weird faults in the car . Made me ver buy again .
Hope one day a can find a mechanic for my Range as honest and easy going like you man.
👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
Love you guys and girls, thank you for all that you are doing
Well done. I had the same issue with a Nissan. Various "experts" told me that all sorts of parts needed replacing. A new fuel filter fixed it, like you I checked the service history and noted it had never been changed.
Another great vid, much appreciated guys. Jag dealers same in the UK. Bought my XJ, with 25k miles, secondhand from the original supplying dealer, full dealer service history, 3 annual stamps. I'm sure the fuel filter was the original factory installed one, as was the air filter. I do all my own servicing, least I know its been done. Also I use a K&N air filter & as long as its correctly oiled then it'll filter better & at higher flow rates than the paper one.
Sorry just only saw your comment. We get so many that I miss sometimes a couple. It is so great that you are able to service your car. At least you know now that it has been taken care of. Unbelievable sometimes. But we'll do a service on our Steering Pump, probably on the next weekend, which we neglected to do for 120000kms (not on purpose). 😃👍🙋♀️Vera
Eres un crack , me alegra que haya una persona como tu en youtube , muchas gracias por tus videos , los que tenemos un discovery3 te lo agradecemos de corazon, porque nos enseñas cosas que nos costarian muchos euros .1000000 thanks. Saludos desde Marbella ESPAÑA
I'll answer in English, thank you for your comment 😃👍🙏. Thankfully Google Translate exists. 🙋♀️ Vera
Excellent work and video I love the way you keep so calm. Shame on the Land Rover dealership
Absolutely, want a job doing properly then do it yourself.
I don't have a land rover but love your approach, production and editorial. Great example.
Love your accents too.!
I love that you’ve covered almost everything.
Absolute legends 👍
Hi guys 👋🏻 Really enjoyed the video. Main dealerships are bug pants 🩲 The just like taking your dosh 💰 🙀 Cheers Stevie 😎🏴
I’m a first time viewer and really enjoyed your video. I do think owning a LR is akin to self-flagellation but love the resilience of their owners. I of course don’t have such intestinal fortitude and therefore drive a V8 Landcruiser TD. I shall subscribe for more masochism. 😊
I think you found the right channel for that one. Welcome, and I do also really like the V8 Landcruiser, anything V8 is great 😃🙋♀️ Vera
Excellent job! I did a similar thing with my Mercedes Vito, changed the fluids and filters only for the head gasket to go!
It's goodbye Vito!
😳🤦♀️ that's terrible, but thanks for the kudos on our video. That is greatly appreciated. 🙋♀️ Vera
Feel of a thriller movie. Great work of Art with Disco. God Bless. Love from India.
👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
I really enjoyed your video and have now subscribed. I have a 23 year old Mercedes SL and I think what you are doing shows that taking a pragmatic approach and learning about your issues is clearly better than leading with your open wallet, I have also had to do this because there are very few garage mechanics now that know how to work on my car.
Your calm and competent style and excellent English has reminded me very much of my good friend Soenke in Wuppertal and how much I love Germany so hopefully soon I will be able to visit again. Mit freundlichen gruben.
👍😃Thank You, we always appreciate when someone really gets what we doing here. 🙋♀️ Vera
Great Video Christian, I have subscribed to your channel because it was so precise and at the same time having a simple dialogue. Excellent thank you.
I have a 300tdi 90 Defender 90...and I found this very informative as I am thinking about a RR Sport Tdv8 and have heard this problem can also occur on that model too...I have subscribed....keep up the great work and greetings from England
We have driven our D3 to 42 countries on two expeditions. London to Cape Town and London to Melbourne. We have been to many LR dealerships. I have been cheated in two countries by LR dealerships. 1. London Battersea and 2. Melbourne City Land Rover. 🥲In London I paid for a diffs and transmission fluid service on early maintenance cycle. They never did any of them and that is an expensive service. It also possibly cost me a torque converter later on. In Melbourne they changed the high pressure pump when the low pressure pump was the fault. Zero confidence in LR dealerships to maintain these vehicles. Both times I thought I can trust these dealerships rather than do it myself. Big mistake. Great video, keep it up. 👍👍
Wow, so cool that you did this with a D3. Thanks for sharing. 💪👍🙋♀️ Vera
I like your methodical approach
You are too modest,brilliant job done.
Lovely video. I want to hear more from Vera!
😅👍🙋♀️ Vera
awesome video i think the main dealer needs to see this and stop ripping people off
The dealer knows this already and that’s why he’s ripping people off!
Well done Christian and Vera great work! I have the a similar issue and now I'm going to change my filter after following Robbies advice page!
You guys and dolls are FANTASTIC. Enjoyed it again all tha way. Very interesting, i’m going to change my dieselfilter along with the oil change next time (i followed your advise and i’ve also ordered a spare one)
Christian, of course did not order the spare one. So I have to do that again. 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Great video, very entertaining. Long live Land Rover, the main dealers are known to be rubbish but we have some excellent independent LR specialists in the UK that do a proper job.
Yes you are right of course, and we do not mean to offend any Land Rover dealers or specialists. But on this car, we did not even show half of the stuff that got messed up by professionals. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian i looked at mine today and noticed the sensor on the bottom of the filter is missing, i wonder if this is whats potentially causing my codes
Always enjoy your videos. Thanks!
As I might have said, we have a 2000 D2 TD5 which we love, but watching your videos is beginning to make me think I've been too worried about maintaining a D3 if we had to replace ours. I don't like K&N filters either, cheap and nasty but very expensive to buy.
We have a Luna too, ours is a mini schnauzer girl... we have three, two girls and a boy 🐺❤️
i subscribed because you are so funny.it is no suprise to me that a dealership would say they changed a filter when they did not. i mark my tires before i have them rotated .caught a dealer once and never went back. i mark my oil filters before i have an oil change. bnever let someone take advantage of you, also check the color of your oil before and after an oil change to be sure they did the job.
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I would say that looks like the original filter. Another good video 👍
We believe so too 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Vielen Dank für die aufklärenden Videos! Ich lebe in der Baja California Sur, Mexiko, und wollte letzte Woche in den USA einen LR4, V8, kaufen. Doch eure Videos haben mich endgültig überzeugt es bleiben zu lassen. Zumal der nächste LR Händler etwa 1200 Kilometer entfernt ist, ich selber zwei linke Hände und keine so gute „Hilfmechanikerin“ zur Seite habe. Apropos Bekleidung der Mechanikerinnen siehe Videos von „SARAH-n-tuned“…😂😂😂
Wir kennen alle ihre Videos. Christian hätte auch gerne das ich in High Heels das Mittengetriebe mit Mini Rock ausbaue. Aber ich glaube das wird nicht passieren. 😅🙋♀️
The home maintenance service is still possible on the discovery but the kn air filter is supposed to be a better filter,,, we have had our discovery 3 tdv6 manual gearbox for the last 3 years and it's great,, brilliant video,, I'm formative ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland greatly appreciated 👍👍👍👍👍👍
👍😀🙋♀️ Vera
I am English and grew up with the original solid workhorse Land Rovers on every farm and construction site. Modern LR’s are nothing like those older ones. I am sad to see this.
Are you in Germany ?
Your English is perfect and your accent is wonderful.
A very good vid. I enjoy seeing how LR has evolved.
Yes, we are in Germany, thanks for the compliment 😀👍🙋♀️ Vera
I really enjoyed this video, thankyou and i love your accent...Also i was going to buy a discovery 3 2 days ago but changed my mind at the last minute, because of all the horror stories about reliabilty...
When you buy a Land Rover, or any other big heavy offroader SUV, you have to know more about that car than the owner does. Then you are going to get one that is reliable. 😃👍🙋♀️Vera
Thanks, learned a lot! Very funny that yawning emogi.
Helas Discovery has lots of issues. But then again, this one has many miles / km's on it. That's good. I truely think the older cars are way way better, than the new ones.
You can buy complete rebuild kits for the pump. I sell injector repair kits for the TDV6 also :D
Great content and explanation how to work on a LR. 👍👍
The only dislike 👎🏿 is from the old fuel filter that get ripped at the end of the video 😂. Great video, bytheway!
Fabians D3 need a complete rust proofing very soon. You've to replace the filters once a year to be on the safe side. KN filters are more open and must be cleaned with some special cleaner. KN filters last for 100,000 km, but not all engines are satisfied with KN: higher fuel consumption and more noisy. In heavy rain the snorkel sucks water into the filter and will damage it. That can be avoided by turning the scoop / air intake 180°, and it points to the rear. Oil change in the differentials would be a good idea. On the gearboxes it's more complicated. Good video.
Thank you for a very well put together video. I feel I need to warn you that the paper air filter element does not allow through as much air as the K&N gauze. I had a problem with a Volvo D3 boat engine that I work on - essentially the engine was not reaching peak rpm & this was the problem.
Yes, we considered this and Fabian will change the filter again as soon as he experiences problems with the air intake. 🙋♀️ Vera
As usual Awesome info!
Love the side decal on Fabian's Disco, Any tip from where to find it :)
It was done by the previous owner, for sure by professionals in a foil shop. Now we are trying to put foil on our car, and once we are successful, we publish a video about it. But that might take a while 😅. 🙋♀️Vera
I was thinking, "I bet Dr. C cuts that filter open" and I was not wrong!
Hello Alan, yes, had to do it... It was some indescribable urge like hunting and gathering.
Great video and so nice you help your friends. Careful vera doesn't leave you for her new friend Luna.. lol
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What a great video, and all done in a second language, brilliant thank you, (although the dog was very quiet, maybe he was busy translating in his head). Sorry to hear that just like in the UK, franchised dealers are the absolute worst for maintenance. I imagine it’s because they feel they have guaranteed business from the sales department? 👍
excellent - I have a D1 and really enjoyed this
Land rover Werkstätten sind einfach nur wahnsinnig
Good job and lateral thinking!!
I was nodding along until 4:23 came along when the surprise nearly knocked me off my comfy chair!
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First rule: Google if there is a „Robbie‘s guide“. If yes, it’s a Walk in the Park. 👍👍👍 Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian Second Rule: If you are unfortunate enough to be Robbie then then First Rule no longer applies?
Seriously, always good to hear my guides are useful and help to save serious amounts of money. Thanks again for the video shout-out - it is appreciated as much as it was a surprise!
@@ascot4000 😅👍You are our hero. We actually mention you a lot, like in this video right around 27:03 ruclips.net/video/xT_EqqHJt_o/видео.html. Thanks for commenting. 🙋♀️ Vera
@@ascot4000 😃👍 We are looking forward to that cup of tea with you. 🙋♀️Vera
great videos.I recently bought my 07 discovery 3 se tdv6. it has 147000 miles and up until its last service from the garage i bought it from it was always land rover main dealer serviced watching your videos certainly helps with not only maintanence but also checking and changing things that may have been missed. i currently have the epb screem but not all the time only occasionally.the box that governs the epb looks well maintained and all the cables look clean etc going to try changing the rear discks pads and shoes and re callibrating the shoes hopefully this does the trick. hopefully :-|
👍💪 🙋♀️Vera
another great vid the pump myt have been louder because you was outside on first time then in garage second time. wish i knew someone like you by me lol
😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Great video. Thank you. I like the concealed winch. Do you know which brand he has?
No I don't actually, I will ask him when he comes by today. But I might not find your comment again. Please ask me again in the comments and I let you know then, hopefully. We do however post another video this evening with a link to a winch. And I believe it might be the same one. 😅🙋♀️ Vera
You guys are the best 👍🏻🇬🇧
Excellent video, one comment regarding the volume measurement - I couldnt see that anyone else has mentioned it, but you are not measuring the volume the pump can deliver using your method, you are only measuring the volume that can be delivered through the schrader valve at the system pressure, and add to this you have not stopped any back flow to the tank so you will be missing this also. If you want to measure the volume the pump can deliver then you need to disconnect the low pressure feed to the high pressure pump and measure the flow rate out of this hose.
The procedure is out of the LR workshop manual. It needs to be measured this way in order to be able to compare to the LR absolute numbers in the manual. Christian
Great video, cheap fix, impressive 👍
Great job boys very interesting and fantastic results . You could have fill the filter before replacing on vehicle . Some people only like working on petrol vehicles because of the smell stay with in your cloths and does not wash out
Oil everywhere. know that problem, however careful you are it always happens. Enjoyed your delivery Chrstian, very entertaining. Dealers are basically dishonest, so no surprise the fuel filter has never been changed. Our Disco 3 is a 2009, owned from new & has been brilliant, however can't help feeling things might be about to change. Still drives well but random warning lights keep coming & going which is a problem when the MOT comes around.
👍 Those warning lights can tick you off. But often it's an easy repair if you are familiar with your car. We always look at the Disco Uk forum for tips. Their site is linked in almost every video from us. And at one point in the life of a Discovery a diagnostic tool is uttermost importance. 😅 Otherwise those bings and bongs and 3 Amigos, how we call them, are going to drive you nuts🙋♀️ Vera
I had the same issue, the car was going in to limp mode constantly and first thing I did I replaced the fuel filter and the damn water sensor screw broke off and it was leaking diesel everywhere, then I bought an whole fuel filter assembly including the a new filter and sensor which was only a few euros more than a plain filter and thankfully it solved the problem and the car drove perfectly.
👍😃🙋♀️Vera
Changed my lpfp with a new OEM unit from LRDirect; 1.35Liters pr minute, 4psi at the scradervalve at idle, 1psi at 2000rpm. This is with a new original LR fuelfilter and filterbracket also. Pump is running at 2.7-3.0Amps.
So.. still not working. I’m losing pressure AFTER the filter. :/
@@iknutis You need 1.7lts pier minutes. Good pump go to up 3.0Lts pier minutes.
@@Carlostrowbridge Aye, thats what they tell me. I’ve tried 3 different pumps now, all OEM. None draws more than 3.5 amps, none deliver more than 6.5psi at the filter, 4psi at the schrader and around 1.3-1.5liters pr minute.
Brilliant job, keep up the good work, thank you! :)
You are a genius !!! Respect
I am moving next door too! we can convert the garage to a double garage workshop with a car hoist and a heater. Christian could make the hoist & heater I am sure. Piece of cake.
😃👍 THat is the plan for the future 🙋♀️ Vera
Excellent video
Awesome video! Reminds me of the episode of Wheeler Dealers where Edd fixed that expensive Audi TT gearbox problem with a single bolt. Also reminded me when and why I decided to switch to independent garages here: I had an odd electrical problem years ago (Chevy Cruze back then), asked about it during regular service and the fellow behind the counter said"Well, we could TRY replacing the EGR valve and see if that works." I figured just TRYING a 700eur repair felt a bit unreasonable...
We love Wheelers Dealers 😃👍. Yes, that is what they said to Fabian too...lets start and then we'll see... 🙋♀️ Vera
Another great video guys! keep up the good work!
Clever man, good job
Your such a clever chap ! Love it !
Hi guys! Another incredibly useful video! A friend of mine just has similar issues on his 2008 D3. I'll share this with him now. I don't understand how such a nice vehicle could have been so poorly maintained. Really embarrassing for that LR dealership. My 2005 doesn't have so much corrosion underneath. I also change my fuel filter (and all other filters) every oil change, at 10k km. I use Mann or Mahle brand filters, except for the oil filter, for which I use genuine LR. Cheers!
Tell your friend to subscribe to our channel 😃👍. If we grow, we are able to provide so much more content. 🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian I've already recommended your channel in the Romanian D3/4 Facebook group that I've started (around 270 members at the moment). Take care!
@@AlexStrugariu Thanks, your support certainly appreciated. 👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
Nice video - thanks for making.
I had the same thing happened I tried everything and it was the hpfp it was a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 to replace and new timing belt working backwards looking into a mirror but it’s done now 🙏great video
👍 I think we will change the timing belt on Fabian's Disco for sure in the future. Maybe then we will have him talk about the plans he has with this car. 😃🙋♀️ Vera
The great David Vizard tested the K&N filters way back and found that, despite their seemingly large pore size, actually cleaned the air at least as well as the standard paper element. The only proviso was that you should use the correct K&N filter oil to retain the dust attracting sticky surface.
Good vid.(enjoyable).In a nutshell,just replace the filter&'give it a go'?
Thanks.