The Cold Hard TRUTH About Owning An Old Land Rover LR3
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Land Rover LR3 Review. Is The Land Rover LR3 a Good Car? Is The Land Rover LR3 Reliable? Should you buy a Land Rover LR3?
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Attention to detail in this review is next level. Tommy you are killing it ! Keep it up young man. I am not a SUV guy but some how I ended up driving LR 3 and now I am spoiled I don't think I would like anything else in SUV arena. # TFL Tommy.
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What size tires are you running on it?
I used to work at a LR dealership. The key to reliable and affordable running costs is to service regularly and do preventive maintenance. Don't wait for something to totally wear out or break before repairing.
During my time at the dealership, our team noticed something about the Land Rovers across the model range. Use the beasts right, don't molly-coddle them. Those that do have more issues, those who use them rough regularly seem to have less issues.
So Tommy, the way you are using your beast is probably why it has been surprisingly reliable.
These things can be tough as nails. Sure the Jeep, G-Wagens and Land Cruisers are also tough, but none of them are as comfortable as Land Rovers.
By the way, the air suspensions from this generation on, are a lot better compared the P38 generation. The air pumps and valves are a lot more effecient and reliable. And if you are not happy with the original Land Rover parts, you can always go for 3rd party component makers. They purportedly improved on the quality of the parts, so you don't have to switch to coils.
Enjoy your rides. This should be a keeper Tommy.
PC Koh I had a used 2007 LR3 HSE which I owned for 6.5 years. Replaced the front diff, replaced the upper steering column due to wear in u-joint, replaced tie rod ends 3 times in the 6 years, LCA’s at least twice, air compressor, air suspension sensors 1x, Air suspension struts, transfer case showed signs of wear at 210,000 kms, wheel bearings needed replacing... My Series 1 Disco was much more reliable. My 110 is more reliable but now so old i have to replace the frame. “Preventative maintenance” seems like a different way of saying cost-of-ownership is stupid high. Nope, they’re not reliable and having owned LR’s for 20+ years, I think I’m relatively experienced enough to comment. Hoping the new Ineos Grenedier will be what the new Defender should have been. JLR missed the mark so badly it’s not even funny. Design of the LR3 was very good, quality just sucks. Moved over to Toyota, won’t be ever buying another LR product again.
I have worked for Land Rover over 30 years. I’ve owned 3 LR3s and have had my current 2010 LR4 V8 5.0 for over 7 years and 120000 hard driven miles from Florida to a Texas to California to North Carolina to Ohio and now live back in Texas. All you have to do is good regular maintenance and this vehicle will give you many many years of trouble free driving with basic replacement parts. In my very professional opinion. The best by far over all Rover EVER
Thanks Todd,,
I really appreciate when someone whom has vastly more experience with a particular than a "weekend warrior".
Your comments are a blessing to us budget Offroad/ Overlanders looking for alternative vehicles. I owned a 92 Classic R.R.. It was beautiful but, I never felt completely comfortable with the reliability factor.
The LR3 will be on my "Watch List" if I decide to sell my current project Montero Sport.
When you shop for a LR3,, what is your main focus?? Thanks, PaydayGabe in beautiful Boulder City Nv. USA 🍻
💥Edit:
Two years down the road and the Monty Sport is virtually complete minus the normal ware and tear services. Its been solid, reliable 🙏 and passes smog w/flying colors.
So,, the Rover is officially off the watch list. Safe travels everyone🤙. G.
I'll stick with my 13 Subaru outback
As someone who is from England, this is not true. They are the worst for reliability & the new Defender has tons of problems.
Body off for lots of fixes.
100 percent agree. Tough and reliable when serviced properly. I've done 300000 miles in my 2005 2.7 d3 and only ever replaced wishbone bushes and oil change every 8000 miles. Still on original air bags but probably need air pump now as it's noisy. That's it.
Yes..and when something need to be replace..it will very costly
I bought mine with issues knowing that once I'd fixed it then it was still cheaper than buying a sorted model. Touch wood never had an issue so far . I absolutely love my Landy, so spacious and versatile. Great for my family of 7 👍
Im going to sound like a boomer, but this is from when Land Rovers looked like Land Rovers. They got far too rounded and "soft" by now.
Yes! I'm in my 20s and I completely agree. In fact I am getting a Disco 4 because I can't stand the new iteration.
you don't think the 2020 110 model isn't squareish? o.o
Totally agree mate, can't stand the new rounded design, looks horrible. If I buy another Land Rover, will just buy an LR 4. Wish Land Rover would bring back the LR 3 / 4 shape.
Definitely! They’ve gone downhill since the discovery 4
I wouldn't mind the rounded shape at all but the aftermarket for the new ones is awful. With an older one, you can get replacement parts that are superior and cheaper to OEM parts. A much better overland vehicle
i just bought a 2008 LR3 w/ 106,000 miles last week . I love it , Its a Beast !! This is my 3rd Landrover
That's funny. I have an 08 LR3 and I prefer to him as Beast. When I bring him in regular maintenance the garage knows which vehicle when I say I'm bringing in the Beast for an oil change etc. You'll be happy with your beast.👍😁
As a 2005 LR3 Owner, I loved this video! The LR3 is a complete joy to drive... and reliable. 180K Miles here!
I own a 2008 LR3 with over 155,000 miles and I absolutely love it. I have never had a problem, other than normal maintenance. It drives like a dream, especially in the mountains. It turns on a dime and stops immediately without skidding during emergency stops. I really take care of it because there is nothing out there that compares. Once you have one of these, you don’t want anything else. Thanks for the great video.
Nailed it on the air suspension bud. If you use it offroad it works the bags and stops it from wearing through the rubber in the lower settings... they'll fail eventually but adjusting them in and out of highway mode regularly definitly extends their life
I have had mine for 15 years. Overhauled the transmission and replaced the radiator about two years ago. Other than that, no other major maintenance initiative. The best car investment I ever made. I love my LR3.
Can't find these for 5 grand around me... they're all 7-8 grand, probably because of this video lol
Nah it's just do to supply and demand. Everybody want to Rob ppl out there. 4-6k sounds Right for LR3 diffently under 10k for sure.
As I understand it, the Disco-2 engine issues stemmed from 2 things: 1) Failure to do regular cooling system maintenance led to overheating and sleeve/engine failure. 2) LR used plastic timing chain guides, which will need to be replaced at the 80-120K mile mark, and you might as well do the chain as well while you're in there. If proper maintenance is performed, these issues never rear their heads. The 3rd most popular, though less devastating issue, was the "3 Amigos." Again, relatively easy and cheap to fix. I've owned a Disco-1 (manual), along with a bunch of the classic models. Always wanted a Disco-2. They just look nicer to me than the LR3/4 series.
As a Range Rover Classic and P38 range rover owner, ill have to say great video!
Albeit both of mine have been converted to coil. My classic has 28,000 miles (original owner passed away and family never messed with it) but is now sporting an RTE 2" coil spring lift and conversion.
The p38 and newer had a much simpler and easier to diagnose air suspension. The classics while simple, were from what most say, an experiment with air for the p38 chassis.
So far so good.
The only thing that gives LR3 a bad name is the dealer experience. They are expensive to repair if you go to the dealer. My 08 has been great for me and my family but I do my own repairs and maintenance. I once asked the dealership to quote a transmission oil change as it’s an involved process on an LR3 since it’s “filled for life”. They quoted 2500$ here in British Columbia I laughed and walked out. Did it myself with a conversion pan from Atlantic British and OEM fluid from Land Rover for around 400$. Next one will only be 100$ since I did the pan conversion.
The main weak point in LR3 is the suspension. At 5700lbs, which is more than most crew cab 1/2 ton trucks, the nice hydronic filled bushing don’t last more than 10 years. I went Polly bushings and much of the lazy suspension feeling Tommy describes disappears. I have travelled from BC to Palm Springs 4 times in 5 years with many wheeling trips in Joshua tree park and driven home without issue. They are solid. Just don’t get ripped off when it’s needs a repair or maintenance. A good mechanic and some research makes these not bad to own.
you replaced all the bushing at the same time? That must have been a hell of a job.
@@olivierlanguedoc Not really. You can do it in a day if you're good, a weekend if you're just an average DIY guy. Worst part will be taking it to a shop to re-do the alignment after changing everything. The poly bushes push in without a press quite easily. I actually ended up changing my from poly back to rubber (actually RRS rubber as it's a bit firmer) as my truck is mostly used off road and the poly was harsher over rough stuff.
Cant understand why the high cost to repair a LR at dealer ships after all the are no harder to work on than any other vehicle in fact i do my own maintenance and find LR3 a piece of cake !
@@chaquisa1 they are considered highline, so they have labor charges to match. I do my own work, but the local LR independent shop charges $150/hour. Crazy.
My dad owned an LR3 and a 2010 Range Rover. Both were absolutely amazing vehicles. I drove them both on moderate to hard off road trails in stock form and they never dissappointed. Absolutely amazing the technology, design and comfort they designed into these machines. My dad will go on record to say he should have sold both of them 1-2 years earlier as both ended up with 2-4K dealer maintenance in the last couple years at around 150k Km’s.
Currently driving a 100 series land cruiser and there is no comparison in the build quality and longevity between a Toyota and a Land Rover. But there is also no comparison in the character and charm of a Land Rover to any Toyota. I think the best advice is expect to spend the same on your LR3 over its life as you spend on purchasing a 4 runner and you’ll be very happy and well prepared
My 2005 LR3 has 315,000 MILES on it and going strong! I drive it every day. Nothing compares to it.
that's reassuring to hear, mine has 170,000
Which engine does yours have
@@jacobpartin4553 Mine has the gas V8
Love my LR3. Yes I've replaced critical suspension parts. Yes I've replaced a 10 year old compressor. But I drove it to Anchorage from Colorado and back. I put 10ply General AT2 tires on it and honestly it goes places I don't want to go. I love the ride and all the interior. Plus the ladies enjoy all the comfort and style of a true luxury off roader.
Hi QQ, I have 2006 model located and I am about spending the winter in Fairbanks this winter. I am worrying about the suspension. Do you have any suggestions to prepare the car?
Mine has 177k and it’s still running strong! Love my LR3, just keep up with the standard maintenance and it’s solid! Going to Tahoe for the 4th in it.
Hell yeah! At 180k here and going strong. Well, after having the water pump replaced and coolant flushed :s
mine has 482k KM which is about 300´k miles.
335km,I have replaced a lot of suspension parts and tyres lots of tyres.
I have a Discovery 3 2.7v6 Diesel (I live in the UK)
I’ve had it for nearly 2 years and only had to change the brakes. I can’t think of another car that cost so little so buy and run (Land cruisers in UK way overpriced and Jeeps not that popular). The car can seat 7 adults in comfort. The interior is so practical and configurable. It has just enough luxury to be nice. And here at home the parts don’t cost too much and if you’re good with a spanner then you can do most mechanical jobs yourself. In the future these will become classics. So for me it’s not the best 4x4 or SUV it’s just the best vehicle. Thanks TFL for another great video keep ‘em coming
I have an Disco 3 (LR3) In Canada. I've had incredible adventures in the woods, and what a great vehicle. Any issues have been easy to deal with. I don't know where the hate for these comes from.
Having owned 2 Land Rovers (LR3 - 2005 & Range Rover Sport - Supercharged - 2009) I can tell you about some issues we've had and members of our local Land Rover club have had. 1st. We LOVE our Rover's! Our LR3 was purchased new and had approx 80K miles on it when sold. We took it to Moab ,UT; Flagstaff and Sedona, AZ; various mountain trails in Cali and it NEVER failed us! Some 2000+ miles of off-roading. We replaced the front air suspension at about 65K miles. Our RRS was purchased used w/ 35K miles (2012). It has had NO issues except the air suspension. I've replaced the front air suspension and the compressor about 3.5 yrs ago and need to do it again. They still work fine, just squeak badly over every bump. Currently, has about 165K miles and have never even change the spark plugs and it still purrs like a kitten - amazing!! With regular fluid changes and minor maintenance it'll get many more miles. Seriously, some of the best vehicles we've ever owned. That would include Honda's, Nissan's, a Ford Mustang, 4 BMW's, and a Subaru... GREAT Review, Keep it up!!
I bought a 2006 LR3 from a firefighter buddy who I knew took good care of it. He showed me all receipts and the Rover ran very well. I was pleased with it from Day 1. But around Day 20, the honeymoon was over:
1. First thing to break was the clip inside the rear tailgate that allowed the cable inside to lock/unlock the gate. I did not want to spend $700 to get that fixed, so I did it myself. It took me 4-5 hours of fishing around inside that tailgate, using a mirror and my borescope.
2. Next thing to go was the air suspension. JFC, that cost me thousands of dollars.
3. A few months later, it was the ball joints and tie rods -- inner and outer. We got an estimate of $3000 from a mechanic to do this, and I said thanks, but no thanks, pal. I will do it myself. Yeah, that took me all weekend bc it was the first time I had done that kind of job, but I was pleased with myself when it was fine. But the good feelings didn't last long.
4. A few weeks later, I learned the control arms needed to be replaced. I tried to do it myself, but pulling that control arm all the way up and keeping it suspended was an impossible task. Another $1,500 bill at the mechanic.
5. End of our problems? Yeah right. We dropped $1,500 on new tires because it's an AWD and all the suspension/steering problems caused one of them to wear prematurely.
6. On those new tires, my wife drove the Rover from Denver to Lincoln, Nebraska. On the way home, the CE light came on. I scanned the engine and was greeted with the code for the catalytic converters operating below the minimum efficiency threshold. The estimate to fix this problem? $3,600. Hell no. I flashed the computer, washed and detailed the Rover, and then drove it to the Ford dealership. We decided to buy a new vehicle and we traded the LR3 in. Now, here is where things get really funny. The sales manager came over to talk to us while we were sitting with our salesman. He said he noticed our lr3 and he wanted to tell us how much he liked it and that we had done a really nice job taking good care of it. He said, "it's really rare that we get one of these Land rovers in that looks like this and the dashboard isn't lit up like a Christmas tree." I almost burst out laughing and I know my wife noticed because I caught the side eye from her. All's well that ends well.
Great review, Tommy! You've done a first-rate job with this (as you do on all the other reviews I've seen of yours). As a former Land Rover owner (series IIA & III), and the owner for about a year of a grey market 1982 Range Rover that I imported when new, as well as various Rover cars (P-6 & SD-1's), I'm quite aware of what non-Rover owners say of these products. I've had some reliability issues with Land Rovers (especially with the 1982 grey market Range Rover and the 3500 NAS SD-1's), but my 1972 Series III purchased new lasted for a little over 20 years before it was stolen from me. The only problems I had with that Land Rover were speedometer and speedo cable related, various oil leaks, and numerous rear axle shaft replacement. To be fair, I used Michelin XS 9.00 x 16" tires which put quite a strain on those axle shafts. Great video. Keep up the superb work. Andy McKane, Maunaloa, Molokai, Hawwaii.
I started to look into these for my quick land rover overview video, and these are surprisingly very reliable. The main issues you might have are the lower control arms going out. Great video!
Land Rover = Endless Money Pit. Drove them for years. 1962 88" and a 1970 109" - constant work. Now happy with the world's most reliable vehicle the 100 series Toyota Land Cruiser.
I'm picking one of these up today. Your video series is what inspired me to look for one. Been looking for months and finally found the right one.
me too, Im going tomorrow, wished I knew a mechanic that can go and check it out with me. KIA dealership is sellign it , 2008. so cheap I can actually afford to add services and maintenance for the term of the finance contract. It had an accident accordign to CARFAX but it was only cosmetic. Since is from a reputable dealership ( that also sells new vehicles) less than 100K miles, cant ask for more.
We are on our third LR3. Preventative maintenance is the key to long life at a sensible budget
What happened to the other 2 lr3s🤔
@@nick2128 they broke down
Hence endless money pit lol 😂 they’re nice but I’ll keep my loaded Subaru Outback 2.5 which has better build quality but pick our poison right lol 😂.
Land Rover Preventative maintenance = SELLING IT at low miles, before it breaks the FUCK down! LMAO Tell me im wrong!
Nick one went in a divorce diet and the other got burned out.
I just purchased the '08 LR3 two weeks ago. It only took one test drive and it love at first sight. The handling was smooth, acceleration more than I expected, and braking very aggressive. Land Rover designed one helluva top notch SUV. I never experienced such amazing engineering in my entire life quite like this. Up to now, I thought my Jeep Grand Cherokee was a decent ride. Nope - no comparison. What a pleasant surprise to finally ride around in something elegant, rugged, and reliable all in one.
have you had any problems since i’m looking at a 08 right now?
I own a 2006 LR3.. I got mine for $9300 with just 70000 miles on the clock.. It blew the Head within 3 days from getting it from the dealer. It was fix, and then I took it for a 700km ride going from Johannesburg to Kwazulu Natal. Guys, I'm so grateful and happy that I own this vehicle.. it is an amazing car!! Its solid and sleek, and it packs a punch.. I spent 7 days in KZN, and drove over 2000km all together, and it purrs like a lion..
Mine too Tommy, it’s my favourite too. The ultimate Land Rover, the ultimate overlanding Vehicle ever built! I don’t know, whether ever I would be blessed to have it some day or not.
2008 LR3 HSE here, bought in mid 2019, and I thought I was crazy to get it at first, but it's been a joy. I've definitely taken it on road trips, but I've only put on about 10k since I got it; I work from home, so I don't have to commute with it. It's really a nice driving vehicle.
I have a 2008 LR3 4.4 V8 HSE here in Qatar and have looked after it well and it has 172,000km. I use an independent LR specialist who is absolutely top-notch and knows Land Rovers and Range Rovers inside put and upside down. I have had all 4 air struts replaced at least once (front ones twice) and the air reservoir and compressor replaced once. Air struts take 45 minutes to replace (I have had the front ones replaced while I have waited) and the cost is around US$ 300-00 a corner. If you don't use the main dealer (I certainly don't), then these are great cars to own and reasonably cheap to maintain. The key is making sure you keep them well looked after. Ohhh.......I also own a 2013 Range Rover Sport HSE with the 5.0 V8 Supercharged engine - same basic chassis as the LR3. and as long as it's looked after and serviced its fantastic too. Sure - as they get older they are like being in a relationship with an older woman.....you don't push them hard; you are a little more sympathetic to their foibles; you don't rev them hard and you don't take them over the rough stuff just as hard as you once did - but respect them and show a little love and they are the best!!
We have an incredible Land Rover series that compares the LR3’s AIR vs COIL conversion suspension. Very educative and lots of fun to watch! Great job here Tommy
I've loved my Landrovers. As long as you aren't afraid to get your own parts and turn some wrenches you can handle many of the issues.
Hi Tommy ,what a fantastic review my man. I have a Discovery 3 TDV6 here in Australia.Done 395000 KLM and never missed a beat.I live in the Northern Territory Outback and have been all over extremely remote Outback roads with out a problem at all and yes still on the original motor and drive .and original air suspension struts .A truly unbelievable Machine which are now after 15 years flying their true colors and Proving all the critics WRONG !
Wow that’s a remarkable amount of kays you’ve done, sounds quite reliable too
@@IndyHepburn yep just coming up 400,000 now.The motor and drive has never missed a beat .I have just replaced front lower control arms and rear ,valve blocks just replaced ,and air suspension pump. The air struts are still good to go and are the original,replaced foot brake switch , These machines are so easy to maintain if you know how and that only takes a bit of intuition !! apart from general maintenance has been a fantastic vehicle in every respect. Absolutely reliable .
I’ve had 2 LR3’s when launched and latest had it over 5 years. Actually changing front struts today and giving it a fresh oil change. It has 167k and running strong. Yes it has it’s issues and is best if you are mechanically inclined. I agree with Tommy in ride comfort, space and versatility one of the bests.
I own a 2011 diesel Disco 4. Now has 150.000KM in it. It has had minor issues, never left me stranded..! I know more than one X5 owner that has needed a lift by the tow truck! Amazing car, the problem that I have now is that I want to change it, but have not found anything that remotely comes close to my Disco, it raises a smile on my face every morning..!
I had an '07 LR3. Remarkable vehicle, barely needed anything, very comfortable. I'd recommend to anyone.
I also have a LR 3 V8 SE, now on 240,000 Km. I simply LOVE the look of this SUV. In my opinion (and that's subjective) I think it's the best looking 4X4 SUV of all time, right up to today. I also hate the way manufacturers seem to now make 4X4's look like urban cars. I bought mine at 160,000 Km. In the 80,000 KM I have driven over 6 years, I have had zero problems, not one issue.
I agree
İn my family we love the Discovery 3 so much,we have 4,we would argue over who drove it that day so yeah
The oldest of them all is the first one,the 2005,with over 400.000 KM on it,second one is a 2006 with over 300.000 KM on it,getting close to 350.000,3rd one is a 2007 with over 270.000,and the 4th is a 2009 with over 350.000
Only problem we ever had was when the 2005 was getting close to 400.000 the head gasket blew,but like,it was like 1.000 KM away from 400.000 so like it was really really old,and it ran with no issues for THAT LONG
Love my Disco3 V8 to bits, fantastic car on the open road and very capable off-road. Been very reliable so far, 200000 kms to date on the clock.
The V8 is the one to buy it seems, the diesel is a ticking time bomb.
Same here Kobus!
Those are rookie numbers, you need to bump them up. Put 250,000 miles on my LR3 before I had am axle issue that jammed up the tranny.
250,000 miles on the original engine. Yeah, they sorted it out from the Disco 2s.
LR3 is still around 15-20K here.
I agree with everything you say, the LR3 is an exceptional vehicle. Here's a thing, I drove an LR3 for a while and then I was given an LR4 to use, and honestly I wanted the LR3 back. The LR3 was just so practical. I'm always tempted to buy an LR3 for myself.
Great video and info! I just got a Land Rover Discovery 3 this week and I love it!!
What a great review. I have been evangelizing the LR3/4 platform where ever I go. My experience so far with my 2006 LR3 V8 SE:
257,XXX miles (purchased in Feb 2012 with 74K miles)
No major failures during operation
I’ve replaced a few thermostat housings and water pumps just as there is evidence of coolant seeping
Replaced the original radiator and 6 of the 8 coolant hoses at 235K miles (pretty awesome I’d say)
Replaced 3 of the 4 original suspension airbags at 235K miles (only because 1 I had replaced previously started to leak down after 100K miles, so now I have 4 brand new Arnott airbags)
Replaced a few air compressors but they are easy to change and their price has come down
Original engine, recently replaced the valve timing gaskets at 255K miles, replaced all 8 ignition coils around 235K miles
I have replaced the transmission but ONLY because it had to come out anyway after a shop ruined the valve body. I was at 150K miles so I took the opportunity.
Replaced the rear diff with one I had overhauled from a pick and pull. I spent less than $1K total on the overhaul and install.
I just replaced the original front upper control arms and the rear upper and lower control arms at 235K miles. The front lowers I’ve replaced twice but on the second time I went with poly bushings. This is a heavy rig and the OEM bushing don’t last long on the lowers front control arms. They’ve been installed now for about 130K miles with zero issues. The handling feels slightly different but I like the tighter feel.
All in all, I would buy another one in a heart beat. As long as I stay ahead of maintenance issues, she performs awesome. It’s seriously the most comfortable off-road vehicle, and several of my friends have said as much when they’ve ridden in it and compared it to their Jeeps and Toyota’s.
I am searching for an LR4 now (2013 White with HD Package), but I will keep my LR3 forever. She is absolutely solid and like you said, the design is timeless.
Thank you for this review!
There's a 2001 Disco I'm considering buying with the exact same mileage as this truck! It's been such a tough debate but I think this video sold me on it. And I'm glad to hear the airbags are reliable!
I own a 2.7TDV3 LR3 no problems with air suspension (yet) :-) I had to replace EGR vales but as far as I know diesel engines were not available in US. I love it, I couldn't agree more with you, thx with the great review!!
I have been driving LR3 over 10 years. Totally agree! Feel bad they made Discovery 5 deviated from its classic design.
Great video, thanks for posting. Just bought a 2005 V8HSE with 82,000 miles. Full G4 Challenge specification and bright (Tangiers Orange) for a trip this summer to the Carpathian Mountains. Admittedly, reliability not been great I must say so far. Over £3,500 spent since May (brakes, steering, suspension and gaskets) but hoping to have all the big issues cleared and sorted for late July. Guess I just need to get to know the good lady!
just drove mine from RI to Vegas last week. 2,701 miles, 0 times opening the hood and 20.1 mpg for the trip. now at 121k with the worst repair being a coil pack
Great review mate. Live in Australia, have had my LR3 for 8 years (v6 diesel), if look after it, does not miss a beat, love the air suspension, great for off-road, overall absolutely love it for all the reasons you outlined, couldn't have summarised it any better myself. Owned a Landcruiser beforehand, excellent also, but LR3 was just much more comfortable overall. Laughed when you pointed out the excellent storage in LR3, exactly spot on.
G'day Mark
What Landcruiser did you have?
Here in Brazil we have the S, SE and HSE version, and the V8 is always HSE. I had two Discovery3, and now I will retake my first Discovery V6 4.0 that I sold in 2018. I couldn’t be more happier.
Bought my 2007 SE petrol Disco at auction (in Australia) over a year ago to fix up and on sell. Car had done 140,000km and full service history. I had to put new air suspension in and control arms and I knew this was why I paid only $8500 for the car. Also I didn’t do this myself so there was definitely some $$ I had to part with circa $3k. Anyway all fixed up and ready to sell and realised I’d fallen in love. It’s such a pleasure to drive and my kids always say “Dad, can we take the Disco?” whenever we head out instead my wife’s 2016 Volvo XC60. My wife wasn’t a fan but on a recent trip down the coast I took it on the beach and needless to say she was converted. As a surfer I love the space and can fold the seats and chuck my boards in and still have plenty of room. I also recently bought a mattress for the back that fits perfectly for the quick overnight surf trip and the side storage units are perfect for wax, surfboard ties and all my other hardware. As mentioned by many here already I think the formula is simple. Pro actively manage the servicing and this vehicle will give you many thousands of mileage memories. Love love love this car!
they are super reliable I used to work there. I loved working on these cars.
Certainly the best reviewer in the business. Makes it fun to learn about different vehicles.
For towing you need the diesel. I have the TDV6 and have a fixed mounted trailer hitch. I use trailers a couple times a week. Just today I towed 2.2 tons from Berlin to Munich. Cruising just below 2000rpm - very enjoyable.
My LR2 diesel , 300,000kms on the clock, off and on the road, still original, still beautiful. Hasn't been a money pit, a money dip maybe, but it's a Landy so it's easy on the dips ;) Wouldn't have anything but LR. Always appreciate your ups, TFL.
I have a 08 LR3 and has 215,682 miles and still running strong. I took of the air bags and put on 2.5 struts heavy Duty and it has a awesome ride just like air bags . It’s awesome.
I watch and enjoy alot of your content! I would love to see you guys put a 1st gen Durango to the limits, I've had my 98 for about 10 years and it has never left me stranded.
Very good review Tommy! I don't know if you realize but you are a highly respected automotive journalist! On your way to the top.
I have a 2008 Disco 3 SE V8 with 84K miles and I love it. The only difference between yours and mine is the original owner optioned out for the navigation, you have the coby hole but the navigation disc are expensive I use the portable garmin navigation also mine come with front and rear heated seats and heated windshield. Must admit it does get expensive when they break down but would not change the Disco for anything else always loved them have mine for 7 years. Nice video. Enjoy your Disco,
FYI, the 4.0 V-6 is just as reliable and you get all the same features, it's more than enough power for everyday tasks, it's not dog slow as many think. They also used this V6 in the Jaguar. I have over 172,000 on mine, no oil leaks, no major issues, starts easily in the dead of winter (-30F). If you don't need the extra power for pulling a large boat, etc. I highly recommend the V6.
Hi Shaggy. Do you think the V6 is powerful enough to handle paved mountain roads/passes? Or by everyday tasks you mean general city driving?
I’m actually replacing all four bags plus the compressor this week. I’m doing the work myself and it’s running me right around $1300 for all the parts. That’s not that bad considering I got 160,000 miles out of the originals. I imagine the new system will last longer than the car. The engine itself, Ron superbly. I really try to babysit with frequent oil changes and keeping up with air filters. I also replace both front wheel hubs a power steering pump and the water pump. The thing that really probably pissed me off the most about this car! Was the thermostat housing! The original is made from some type of composite material that when it begins to fail it’ll crumble in your hands. Long story short, I thought I had a water pump issue due to a leak and it turned out there was a small pinhole in the thermostat housing. Anyway, the water pump is only $35. You may as well just go ahead and replace that wire there. Other than that, it’s been a fairly decent car. The four-wheel-drive is second to none. It’s a goat going uphills.
We got almost 200k out of our LR3 air shocks before a super slow leak developed. Not bad at all!
Have run my 2005 TDV6 SE from new.
It has not exploded yet 😁
Now, I don't see anything to replace it, so will be running it until diesel cars get banned.
Great review.
Well...as an owner of a 2006 lr3 I absolutely love it. I do most of the work on it myself.... so by doing so I suppose I've saved thousands as I have a goal of never ever going to the dealership/stealership. In the end though it is one of the greatest SUV's ever made.
I absolutely love and like these cars. I've owned four of them through the years and they all have given me the best times ever. They have just about the problems that you may find with other SUV. Repairing these vehicles is not that expensive if you learn to do some of the repairs or find a good mechanic other than the dealership that know them. The parts for these cars are everywhere in the net for really good prices. I have owned the original discovery , 08 lr3 2010 lr4 and a 2014 lr4. I still have the 08 and it has already 186k and still running strong. The engines last for ever if you keep the maintenance religiously. these are the best and more fun all terrain cars out there, and also the older models are very inexpensive to maintain.
I wheel often and one of my friends has an lr3. The only thing that's gone wrong is the air bags and compressor. Swapping to mechanical suspension later this summer. But as far as everything else, it all works just fine
If you look fixing the air suspension Isn’t that bad.
Have a 2009 LR3 HSE, it drives great on and off-road, has a Harmon Kardon sound system. A brilliant vehicle 👌🏼👌🏼
Great informative review. Good to see so many people making positive comments.
My 2007 model has 390,000km and is still going strong with 2.7TD V6 (in France). Cruises at 130km/h on the autoroute and off-roads with the best without modification other than tyres ( I recommend BF Goodrich KM2/3). Be prepared to spend some of the money you've saved on the purchase price on a few big bills (suspension) and spend a little on preventative maintenance (thermostat, water pump, alternator, bushes). Yes it may be a liability but it's a great great car in all respects and full of character. Yes Toyota's are more reliable but we don't live in the Third World. We love our Discovery 3.
I recommend that...
If your LR3 air suspension fails, don't replace to another air suspension.
Instead, replace to a spring suspension.
Spring suspension doesn't fail forever.
Just lift some inches with spring suspension and it reserve the high all the time.
So you may need to attach a rock slider to make easy to get inside.
But never fails the suspension again with spring suspension.
Spring suspension is a little bumpy when you drive, but don't worry, it is the way it is. It's natural.
FYI you can add the centre console fridge easy, all the parts still available new and stock the wiring is there for plug and play. I added to my SE
Bought a 2006 LR3 for my wife about 6 or 7 years ago. Only had 62k on it but I paid $16k for it then. Honestly it has been such a great vehicle for us. I usually do my own work on my vehicles and in the years we have had it we only put about 35k miles on it. I'll list the work I remember doing: Brakes maybe twice, thermostat, starter, alternator, I rebuilt the front and back air blocks but still have an air leak (original entire suspension except the few orings I replaced in the blocks). And what I though was the most catastrophic failure ended up being a little T coolant valve on top of the engine ($8 part). But if we hadn't pulled immediately over and let the engine cool it could have been bad. Overall it has been pretty much exactly as you stated in your video, surprisingly reliable. It's just so nice to drive too! The driving position and view of your surroundings is best in class, I've never sat in a vehicle with a better driving position. I'm thinking about finding another one for my kids as they are about to start driving and if I can pick one up for $5k in decent shape, that's a no brainer! Only thing I will say is I don't recommend buying any older vehicle if you don't do your own work... doesn't matter the brand or model... you will overpay and might as well get a new car with a warrantee.
Excellent video! I'd love to see a video comparison of the LR3 vs LR4
i love these land rover reviews please keep them coming!!
Awesome review. Very informative in terms of which non-Defender Landy to buy for a good older vehicle service life. :)
I appreciate all of your videos, extremely helpful and well done, Thanks Tommy.
My 04 D2 had the 3 Amigos. It was the only mechanical issue I ever had with mine. No over heating, no eating the engine. Nothing. My 08 RR wasn't quite as good. My D4 (LR 4 here) has not had any issue.
"Buttery!" That's the best description ever for the way it drives on the road.
Fantastic video, honest and fun. I wish you have a nice ownership.
you just absolutely made up my mind on this amazing car!! I`m so excited..
Exactly my sentiments.
I bought my 2005 Disco 3 for €6000. The first two years I put another €7000 into it (conservative estimate).
Transmission refurbishment cost initially €2500.
Then €1600 for ZF mechatronic unit. Excluding fitting.
Wrangler Tires cost €200 each.
Upgraded with "Albert" high quality faux leather seat covers.
Needs new high pressure fuel injector as won't start on first turn and never did since I bought it (cost estimate €1500)...... Then there was the upper and lower control arm replacements. Windows tinted....Etc etc...
Now you might think "yes, it is an endless money pit!" and you'd be probably right....
However, I absolutely love this vehicle...I have the back decked out with a bed and so it's saving me cost as a rather rugged SUV camper. Engine tuned with Alive tuning. I'm now getting 37MPG.... Now on a 2 ton SUV, that's nearly 16 years old....I find that Incredible.
For the past year, maintenance costs have reduced significantly.
I believe the previous owners were not as kind.
It's fixtures and fittings are incredibly flimpsy but the V6 2.7 diesel engine (jaguar I believe) is very reliable. I do interim oil changes myself.
It simply loves the highway and purrrrs along.
I don't have kids and consequently consider my Disco3, my child.
King Tout Ank Amoon was buried with his chariot... I'd like to be buried with my Disco 3.
So many happy memories and a lot more to come.....
The trouble with public perception of Land Rover is that they consider ANY failure of a component "Typical, it's a Land Rover after all" as if other brands never ever have anything go wrong! Airbags is a case in point. Yes they will fail at some point, but not because it is a Land Rover, but because they become old and worn. For some reason, it's okay for a BMW or Mercedes to need these, but if a Land Rover does, it's the end of the world! :-) Every car has it's faults, and also like every car, people have become very good at working around them with an upgraded part, a doodad to tell the computer to not panic, or simply a wealth of information to enable the DIY owner to not be intimidated and have a go at fixing themselves. If I could have any complaint about Land Rover, it is that they price spare parts as if you're a cashed-up owner of the latest Autobiography Range Rover LWB. They need to make parts Ford/GM/Toyota priced for the older models (i.e. out of current production)
142000_ Just run in! My 2007 has done 293000 miles, still on original air struts, original 2.7 V6, original gearbox and still going strong. It has been a brilliant vehicle.
Drive a 2010 Freelander 2 with 217,000 miles here in the UK. Love my car. Never let me down, expenses only been usual service costs. Comfy, great driving position and hope it will go in forever.
Great work Tommy, love the vids, especially with you and your dad! Hilarious!!
I was looking at getting a Discovery 4 however was put off by the road tax cost & fears about maintenance cost. I think I’m going to look into The Freelander 2 as it ticks all of my boxes.
Is it automatic? Curious about the FL2 tranny reliability
@@ln5747 wow, that was 3 years ago-turned over to 265,000 miles yesterday! It’s a manual. There are known issues with the rear diff and mine is noisy but not economically worth the expenditure.
@@adamyeo8590 nice, I'm only interested in the automatic, which I've heard varying things about. Seems like a very solid engine.
By far best car review. Definitely going to look into one of these to test drive. Thank you for the awesome review
I currently drive a 2006 LR3 SE with heated seats. I have 90,561 1 owner miles and love this vehicle. I have had bush arms replaced, ... too many upkeeps to mention and I will always put my money into this car because my wife says that I'm a stupid. LOL! But..., whenever, there is inclement weather or impending doom she asks to ride in the Land Rover LR3 instead of her Volvo.
Great video I have an 06 SE v8 full options I was hoping to get some insight on the center console phone connectivity but otherwise great video would love to learn more about the special land rover key button programming
FYI, I have a 1995 Land Rover Classic with the original Air Sus and Original Balloons.. STILL WORKS.
Knock on wood
Please do a LR3 vs LR4 full review!
I agree with you on square SUV’s. Big fan of the Cherokee XJ because of the square design.
D4 2.7 226k's Melbourne, "Strayaa" Turbo intercooler hose + air suspension compressor replaced - the rest all std maintenance rqmts as per the book. Awesome machine.
I love the look of these, new Defender to me is the new real Disco
This makes me frown.... The new Defenders look like a Honda Element x Tupperware collab doing it for the 'gram.
Just get a Range Rover. All the cool tech and just as off road worthy.
Nah mate, you're right there.
There is a very good RUclips video comparing them side to side. It literally is the new Disco based off the comparison they did.
Smh
I had catastrophic failure! My oil pump took a dump while driving 135K miles. But a new lesser milage motor is going in.
I love driving it and mine has every feature. So I hope to get a lot more mileage out of the new motor.
Thank you Tommy...now I'm buying an LR3 (no joke)
Funny thing over here in Australia, US cars, eg Jeeps, are generally held in lower regard for quality and reliability than Land Rovers. We have a 2014 Discovery 4 - love it.
I think that opinion is universal.
Awesome video, thanks for making this! Haven't owned Land Rover (yet), but several other "bad" brands which have been far more reliable than their general image would suggest. I also thought LR air suspension was expensive to repair, but then I poked the internet and found out how much it costs to have Mercedes M or GL class air suspension fixed... ;-)
I had a 2001 discovery 2. When my friends saw it for the first time they gave their condolences. I proceeded to drive it for 200,000 miles without any issues while they watched in awe. I am looking to find a clean 2010-2014 lr4 HSE Lux as my daily driver when prices come back down to earth here in MA.
Love this review. I appreciate Tommy's honesty. He also liked the old Disco 2s, but he admitted they were VERY costly to maintain. This sounds like a much better vehicle, and I love the styling. I've also driven a couple, and they do ride as nice as Tommy says.
Finally, I'm pretty sure the hidden tow hitch in the rear bumper is non-functional. It's not painted red.
You have to buy the adapter for the hitch.
You are right. I wouldn’t trust the hook for anything cause it’s black. What were they thinking???? Thanks for watching! Tommy
Thank you for making a video on all the Great reason's for owning a Land Rover. A breath of fresh air! 👍
I got a lr3 with 200k miles. My dad was the first owner and I am now. Still love it. Drives like a dream.
I’ve got an LR4 passed down from my dad as well! About 100K miles now. Any tips on making it last to 200K and more?
@@superkoff1 make sure you change the oil at the proper time and keep an eye on your suspension. also every 90,000 miles do your 4*4 service. Month ago I did my transmission fluid and the filter changed. I get all my parts from Atlantic British.
I have a 2006 LR3 a little more base than this (also the V6 version) and I absolutely love it! this is a great review. Keep up the good work!
Splendid review. Just splendid. And as an owner of two Discos (both V8s), I love them immensely. My only gripe was the fly-apart plastics in the interior, which was no big deal. And yeah, they had a few issues with sensors and some other items, but nothing that ever left me on the side of the road (or that I couldn't fix myself). However, when the FJ Cruiser came out, I had to make the swap - the Toyota is everything the Disco was in terms of off-road competence with two added bonuses: additional reliability plus the ubiquitous presence of Toyota dealers in just about every modest-sized country town in Australia (including the outback).... Land Rover dealers and specialists are few and far between. As an aside, it's such a pity the latest Discovery is a homogenised blob that has been robbed of all the great styling that set the Disco apart. Fortunately, they didn't make the same mistake with the Defender. Also as an aside, my wife has the Evoque and it's a blast. We've had it for five years and it has been flawless. Not a single fault. It's another Rover that's the victim of hysterical commentary. It's a gem of a car.
I think the evoque is absolutely beautiful such a sexy lil truck