BMW X5 with HYDROGEN FUEL - This is the FUTURE of CARS!
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- BMW expands into Hydrogen Power with Fuel-Cell SUV based on the X5. The BMW iX5 hydrogen fuel-cell SUV is now entering low-volume production and will begin testing in select regions next spring. Based on the regular BMW X5, the iX5 is retrofitted with a fuel-cell stack, an electric motor and battery, and a new floor to fit its hydrogen tanks. BMW believes both electric and hydrogen-powered vehicles are necessary to combat climate change, with the iX5 a potential precursor to future models.
Along with a growing number of automakers, hydrigen is a future fuel that is showing promising results. Toyota, Hyundai, Honda, General Motors and others are already testing these fuels.
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Hydrogen seems like it would be a good idea for big trucks.
Cummins has a 7 and 15 liter H2 engine on the way.
and any car that does 200+km (120 miles) daily, in cold environment and on highway ... where EV just flops
@@beastlysunJust look at how successful all those Japanese fuel cell cars are.
@@jamesvandamme7786 Just look at how successful were EVs before tesla had to build all the charging station just by increasing the price of the car. If i had H2 station near me, you bet i would get mirai.
Gas is green energy. Its renewable and produces water and plant food when burned.
Exactly!!!!! What they’re feeding us is a massive lie to enslave us. They dont even want us to have the freedom to drive. Fools defending electric are defending their own demise
Dont forget, gas auto renews as well…they dont want you to know that either
@@SalafiJusticeBecause it's not true.
I believe in Hydrogen Combustion because retrofitting existing stations is possible. Toyota has the right idea, but its going to take time.
If it costs you $100 to refuel a fuel cell vehicle, a combustion engine would cost 3 times as much. That's with today's H2 from fossil fuel. Green H2 would be more.
Definitely makes more sense then BEV, but unfortunately the governments must always mandate the worse of the option available...
That's why alot of those governments are being replaced
Not an EV fan. Keeping an open mind though.
Forget it. EV's are a terrible product and worse for the environment. It's all just a big house of cards.
You are right, EVs have far too many drawbacks and were never really going to be the answer.
Hydrogen however takes away that recharging nonsense (time waiting) plus what companies like Toyota are even doing is to do away with batteries altogether and eventually use hydrogen combustion rather than Hydrogen fuel cell technology.
Part of this is because the lithium ion batteries used for EVs are a REAL fire hazard themselves.
If one goes up in flames, the rate at which the fire spreads is very scary and alarming.
@@brunorivademar5356 Simply not true
@@neilburns8869 It's a good thing than that cars are moving to LFP batteries, that are much less environmentally damaging, and catch far less fire than normal cars
Shell just closed it's hydrogen stations. Future is electric.
Shell closed it's hydrogen stations due to defects in the equipment supplied by a foreign company that manufactures the H2 station range. Hope you are aware that hydrogen vehicles are in fact electric. Yes electric is the future with hydrogen being it's main source for charging the battery. It will take some time but it will eventually become mainstream.
It will take a couple minutes to fill up your vehicle at your local gas station ( which will have been converted with hydrogen bowsers ) and they also have nearly double the range of a fully electric vehicle. Hydrogen vehicles require much less raw materials to build with it's only by product being water vapor. There are some companies that have already harnessed a technology that allows the water vapor to filter the air for cleaner air as the vehicle is driven. I'm not hell bent on greener grasses but I think it's fantastic for the environment in many ways.
The biggest challenge is the price of hydrogen. When manufacturers are able to get the cost down they will no doubt accelerate the manufacturing/infrastructure and role out huge marketing strategies to entice people to buy them. And people will buy them because people buy into any hype that's marketed to them. Just like they are doing now with fully electric vehicles. It's just a matter of time. So in essence hydrogen is the future. Fully electric vehicle may actually become obsolete unless they are able to be converted. Who knows.
Yes much better full ev , and it's not how the car drives its the convenience ,distance ,how fast to refill and of course the price
I rented 2 Teslas for 7 weeks. Loved the performance and tech. While not a Tesla fan, I’ve been ready to buy another EV this year. Then I saw what BMW was doing and now I’m on the fence. My biggest question would be MSRP. If these hydrogen things come in close to $100k it’s a tough sale. Also… expected maintenance costs? If hydrogen runs out can it switch to 100% electric? I have a huge solar array. Next… how long before hydrogen stations happen in rural New England? Final concern… we have roads that freeze up here. I don’t think dumping distilled water on frozen roads is a good idea. What is BMWs answer to that?
I mean, better than electric if there’s infrastructure. That said, more expensive fixes, more expensive insurance, more expensive car, more expensive fuel, resale value is devastating …..not like I’m driving a semi truck here, my car is efficient. Why the heck would I change from gas?
There's no H2 infrastructure, the few stations are way more expensive than gasoline and WAAAY more expensive than electricity. Price a used Mirai and you'll see that after the highly subsidized car runs out of free hydrogen (paid for by Toyota) they are near worthless.
Soon your choice will be gas or EV, same price. EV will be much cheaper to drive.
I think the EU has already delayed the gas ban
Correct
Hydrogen has always been the fuel of the future, Shell just announced the closing of all its Hydrogen Filling stations for light vehicles in Calif, lets see you refill that Foolcell car!😮..😂
defects in the equipment supplied by a foreign company that manufactures the H2 station range.
LNG be simple and clean enough to use indoors like forklift and other indoor equipment.
BMW has been experimenting with hydrogen IC motors since 80s
How many people drive LNG or propane cars now?
@@jamesvandamme7786 quite a few especially trucks . All the Schwab ice cream distributors and many more . It’s cheap too . Also popular England and west coast Canada. If you go to Asia all cabs run on it cause cheap
My concern is how durable the hydrogen are. Some report of the pumps freezing up literally, as hydrogen has to be compressed and kept in extremely cold temps. Can they handle multiple vehicles constantly like gas pumps now?
It's no different to a tank full of flammable liquid and you wouldn't need as much as petrol
@@KaoticIndustrial filling up with hydrogen is much more complicated, being highly pressurized, currently, each pump can only ‘fill’ up so much before it needs a respite period. If this is going mass adoption, this process has to improve drastically
@@dwnrange7812for the freezing, LPG also freezes quite regularly. But its just surface, same as when you use CO2 fire extinguisher. Same as with CO2, you just need one additional layer and its OK. For the pressure its not a biggie, its just that current infrastructure does not count with bigger numbers of cars so the pressure booster used is not up to the task of multiple cars. Fix is simple as just using higher flow booster and bigger 2d stage tank.
By product of water sounds great except in areas where the temperatures drop below freezing and stay there for weeks. The roads become a skating rink.
I wish you would’ve said something about how it sounds compared to an internal combustion engine.
BMW is using it in EVs. Still the same sound. In ICE cars, water comes out the tail pipe like many local busses
Conceivably areas where H2 is adopted for trucking etc, like Ports, could sustain beautiful landscaping plots. iow "public goods" all watered via H2 waste (plus some minerals).
Toyota already tried and failed with the Miran. Not only Hydrogen takes longer to fill up but also more expensive than gas.
I disagree. I don't think the Mirai has failed anymore than EVs have failed. It's still in-progress. Toyota is continuing to invest in Hydrogen Fuel Cells, AND......Hydrogen Combustion.
Even though Hydrogen has been tested for years. I still worry about collisions and fires such as in parking lots. Of course leave it to Ford to historically build cars that explode. Oops catch fire.
Hahaha just insert EV for hydrogen
@@JSICycles 👍🧨💥
Hope hydrogen for personal vehicles happens nationwide and sooner than later!
The critics will say it's nonsensical because the energy efficiency will never be more than 50 percent of batteries. Everything else is far better though.
Fine if you want to pay for it. Ten times as much.
They're not going to tell you about solid hydrogen, MgH2, Hydride, because then you could refill at home with a bucket of water and two spoons. Big Government/Oil/Gas would not like that...
Nobody has been able to make that work. It's quite inefficient, i.e., expensive.
This is a much better idea
Sounds a great idea
Is the BMW test vehicle a hybrid? You said something about electric in the beginning. I was under the impression that it was a hybrid of electric vehicle and hydrogen propulsion?
As of today, and the x5 I tested. They are using hydrogen to power an ev only. Other brands are doing hybrids and conversions to hydrogen. Lots of potential answers
A Hydrogen Car is a electric Car!
@@OnlyFendtsTThen why bother with all those tanks, and expensive hydrogen?
@@jamesvandamme7786 Thats the Question.
I do believe FCEV are the way to go. Had the possibility to drive Mirai Gen2 for a weekend, great and fuss-free vehicle, drives well and only 2,5 kw battery that coats 1400 usd to replace…
Hydrogen in cars a is stillborn obsolete technology. The only reason H2 cars are built at all is to access juicy subventions. It is a scam machine masquerading as futuristic thing.
How much does it cost for hydrogen?
The truth is out now about the deadly electric Car fires / range / battery cost /insurance & repair costs 📡
I’ll take hydrogen over electric anyday.
Why?
@@JesusChrist-vf3xd so you won’t have to plug your car up for long periods of time.
Hydrogen in cars a is stillborn hopelessly obsolete technology. The only reason hydrogen cars are built at all is to access juicy subventions. It is a scam machine masquerading as futuristic thing.
GO hydrogen if you want to waste 66% ENERGY 🤦♀️🤦♂️
@@mikafiltenborg7572 go to ev to make carbon emission
It has nothing to do with the environment. It has to do with the Agenda. If you have several different competing options, the politicians won't know where to buy stock. If they push EV only, they can pass laws and effectively insider trade. Because you know it's legal for politicians, just not anyone else.
Lauren Fix Car Coach Reports ❤💎 Excellent quality pragmatic review from the greatest classy Barbie doll lady. Hydrogen is the future for closed cell vehicles. Hopefully the USA will catch up to Europe.
Literally every single thing you said in this video is not true. Hydrogen vehicles ARE Electric vehicles. It has a battery and the Hydrogen charges the battery. It just charges in an extremely inefficient manner. Hydrogen is $36 a Kg in California now. The price has never decreased there and it doubled in the last year. A fill up typically costs over $180 for less than 300 miles of range. It typically takes about 30 minutes or more to fill up with Hydrogen because you have to wait in line. The pumps have to take a 10 minute break in between each car because the pumps are breaking so often now. The cars have zero resell value because the $15k fuel cards Toyota gives out last less than 2 years. The Hydrogen vehicles become a huge financial burden once the free fuel cards run out.
For a myriad of reasons, hydrogen is dead at least for passager cars. Not least because it’s expensive to produce, difficult to store and a woefully inefficient use of energy compared to an EV.
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA,
How much control can the government have over this and what are their kickbacks?
You have to get hydrogen from where they allow you and you have to pay their prices. Or you could charge your battery EV at home off rooftop solar panels.
Mrs. Fix for next transportation Secretary 2024
Good luck find a hydrogen re-fill station outside California 😂😂😂
The thing I disagree with you on is when you said '20 minutes for a charge' where in the world did you get that from? I never heard of an EV charging in 20 minutes. And how far can you go on a 20 minute charge? 100 yards?
So ....I think I did like what I'm hearing about this IX5.
Fast charging goes 20-80% in 20 minutes on some cars. But you can stop to take a leak and get enough juice (and coffee) to take you another 3 hours. But it will cost much, much less than hydrogen.
To bad that there are less and less hydrogen pumps, they are very expensive to build, and you waste about 40% of your energy (electricity) doing the process, which makes it more expensive than an EV
Almost all hydrogenstations in Europe has been closed down.
Also, there is the problem with inefficient hydrogen production. It requires 3 times more energy than what you get out of it in the end.
Is this the solution? Hardly.
BMW is just following Toyota. They cant produce BEVs cheap enough, and have to do something else.
Great architectural tour video. …but I thought it was supposed to be about cars.
As long as NatGas is available, Hydrogen can be readily SteamFracked.
Do these hydrogen vehicles stull use a crap piston engine?
Hey, if you're not concerned about efficiency or cost, why not have it make noise?
It’s surprisingly difficult to find the price of hydrogen at the pump. I’m seeing between $25 to $37 dollars per kg. The average hydrogen vehicle drives 60 miles per kg. So, about 50 cents per mile? Somebody living in California please correct me if I’m wrong.
You're right. All this H2 BS neglects the extreme cost. Like, ten times the per mile cost of EVs.
Last I heard, it takes the equivalent 2 barrels of oil to make 1 barrel oil equivalent of hydrogen.
No oil in hydrogen
The Japanese have developed a system that requires only solar and water.
Sorry. Not clear in my original comment. Meant BOE ( Barrel of oil equivalent) - a unit of energy.
Brown hydrogen is made from reformed fossil natural gas. Green hydrogen is made from electricity. So why not just charge up a battery instead? Much cheaper and more efficient.
Hidrogen is the future
So they decided to put this in one of their most unreliable vehicles? Can't tell you how many of my friends hated their X5 or how many I've seen broke down on the side of the road.
the petroleum companies or artel will nev er allow this to happen unless they are controlling it
Another accurate report, keep them coming!
Except she left out how much more hydrogen costs.
we always hear about new hydrogen breakthroughs and it creates good investment... and we have been hearing this since the 1940s, so why dont we have them, well its that little elephant in the room hydrogen embrittlement, hydrogen ruins steel and most other things used as a container. the last thing you want under your car is 2500psi of explosive hydrogen in a tank thats weakening from the inside out and also being bumped down the road... you can replace the tanks as and when needed, which is why we have industrial tanks/tankers and prototype vehicles / large commercial bus trials, because they can recall them in time to prevent a tank boom boom 'issue', but cars for joe public? you cant even get joe public to rotate his tyres and buy decent brakes he's not paying thousands for a tank!.....how long till we hear of someone with a 15yr old hydrogen tank in a car exploding on the freeway or in a parking garage....
Zero technical info. Disappointing.
I thought you hated environmentally friendly vehicles?
Hydrogen stations are too limited. H2 is way more than gas. Every cent BMW invested in H2 is wasted!
This is called real R&D from German cars. They need to learn a lot from Japan and not tesla
Only problem is the hydrogen cost would Be a lot more than battery. Until they can find a better more efficient way to make it, it's still going to end up wasting as much energy to make the hydrogen as it is to use a fuel combustible engine. For now it will be good for trucks and long distance drivers but once they can unlock a cheaper and more efficient way then it will be rocking
Bucket of water and two spoons work for you?
@@Brad_FallonYou flunked chemistry?
You can just call it the Hindenberg....💥🔥🙉🙊
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We haven’t had the Jill’s for over 10 years- fyi
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Just as unefficient as ICE cars compared to EV’s.
If you're referring to power output of the engine yes. From my understanding the idyllic future should be a hybrid hydrogen cars. As well as synthetic gasoline. From my understanding it's underway in some Motorsports in 2 years to only be used. From my understanding the issue with hydrogen right now is storage. In my idyllic world I would love to see a nice balance of synthetic gasoline, hydrogen and Evie cars living in harmony
🤣😂 In the state I live....only 1 H station. Used for commercial trucks. Nahhh...no infrastracture. If i buy a H...won't be a bmw. Would buy a TOYOTA!
NO BATTERIES
In twenty years EVs will just be a memory. Hydrogen fuel cells will take over for years to come.
Hydrogen is the future, not the lithium ion battery.
Dream on.
Aint no 20 minute charging. bUt eLoN sAiD hYdrOgEn iS dUmB
It's not in his financial best interest to push hydrogen vehicles. But from an environmental point of view, it certainly makes a lot more sense than an electric vehicle
@@acts2211It wastes a LOT of energy, so battery EVs are much more environmentally friendly. And far cheaper.
Even in Japan Hydrogen as a fuel is dying and the Chinese are even finding a market for their BEVs in Japan ,Aimagine nationalistic Japanese buying Chines BEVs because Japancar giants cant make a good EV!😂
are the oil arabs really gonna allow any alternatives to be viable?
The fossil fuel industry is pushing hydrogen because it's made from fossil methane. At high cost. And you have to go to a fuel station to get it. BEVs charge in your own garage, overnight.
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This is just a hydrogen car and BMW car AD
But nobody will buy them.
Where are we going to get all the fresh water to supply all this hydrogen? We struggle in summer as it is.
That's not the problem. It's the high cost of hydrogen.