WHY IS HE THE DUMBEST CHARACTER IN GTA SAN ANDREAS?
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- This episode will be different than the others, folks! This time we are going to give a rant about the great character from GTA San Andreas - Sweet Johnson. Of course, besides going through complaints, we will discuss them extensively. There are various reasons making us dislike this character from the very beginning. We wouldn't necessarily say that Sweet fails at everything, but it's really hard to find positive things in his way of thinking and acting. Enjoy the video! 🙂
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Sweet had an opportunity that not many people has and he ditched it and choose to go back to the hood, the same hood that took his brother, his mother and two of his best friends. And what's worse, he dragged CJ with him.
Tried to 😂😂 if he wasn't framed by tenpenny he'd just be a gangster
Yeah a once in a lifetime opportunity for a hood scumbag like him and he threw it back in CJ's face, now I really wish it was Sweet who died and not Brian or their mother.
Man, you sound just like smoke right now
And Sweet says to OG Loc "go to the college", but presses CJ for gaining a success outside of the hood by blaming him for be selfish and "doing nothing for your hood". Double standards or what?
@@alexferrana3979 wasn't it big smoke that mentioned college?
CJ: steal a military jet from the USA army to rescue Sweet
Sweet: you did it for yourself, not for the family
Did someone say *"FAMILY"* ? )))
@@mafia_gamer_official30973 no
@@iamvmotherfucker - But Dom Toretto says yes. 😂
@@mafia_gamer_official30973 please spare me Dom Toretto.
@@iamvmotherfucker - Good, you have become a FAMILY member.
Woozie and Cesar are better brothers to CJ than Sweet ever was
Woozie is supposed to be blind, but he actually can see CJ's work way better than Sweet
*better.
Don't forget Toreno, at least IMO
even ryder tbh
Toreno was even better than Sweet
I hated how ungrateful he was. Carl had to save him quite a lot, including the final mission.
And during that mission "Sweet's girl". Sweet just went into a date on the rival gang's turf. What could possibly go wrong? Answer - he got ambushed, outnumbered and outgunned and was forced to call CJ for help.
When you get him out of prison and he's just like 'You're a Buster fool, selling out, just a buster!" and I'm like, I rolled up to pick your ass up out of prison in a fucking TANK. You watched me mow down literal hundreds of bangers over the game... you sure wanna start shit Sweet?
That said, Wu Zee was the best character. Love that blind Triad mofo.
He was ungrateful cuz CJ didn't understand what he really wanted when he got out of jail
@@dontbelikeme9165 I feel you're gonna make an Ice Cube State of the Union reference.
@@bulbafett5001 you didn't get it
It's quite clear that Sweet's character design was very intentional. He was intentionally designed to be a crappy gang boss so that CJ can come in and basically save the gang from extinction. There was a really neat plot device as well, where CJ keeps saving Sweet from various troubles throughout the story, but when it was time for CJ to be saved, at the last mission where Tenpenny was just about to kill him, it was technically Sweet's spirit and loyalty that allowed CJ the opportunity to distract a wary Tenpenny and save himself from getting killed.
You think Carl wouldnt dodge the shotgun round from Tenpenny ?
No his character was a true Gangsta who doesn't care about materialistic things
@@dontbelikeme9165 No, his character was/is stubborn, ignorant, lacks accountability and he doesn’t even care about himself.
@@kyrahsmith he cares about himself but Just more about his family and the Hood all he wanted was to get the Hoods back together and wanted to respect his mother's house
@@dontbelikeme9165 He’s mentally unstable… his family are doing better, their sister is actually happy and Sweet still finds a way to try and bring them back to something that is broken, he’s too attached. I think he’s very selfish.
That fact that even Ryder does more for the hood that sweet throughout the entire game is just embarrassing.
He completely shits on CJ for abandoning the hood in exchange of an actual professional career, yet if it wasn't for his "buster" brother he would literally would have became a crack addict (and of course, in prison!), the very thing he made his entire gang fight against.
A TRUE loving and caring brother would be happy that his brother is actually moving on and achieving something in life, instead of dragging him down to the shitty street gangster life once more.
Yeah what a moron Sweet is, CJ was so excited to see his brother out of prison and was enthusiastic telling him about all the new business ventures he had obtained and Sweet just threw it back in his face and told him he sounded just like Smoke. Sweet should have seen all that and been proud of his brother and said ok but how's the hood been? Then CJ would tell him about how he was exiled after he went to prison. Sweet is just foolish and not fit to be a leader, no wonder Grove street was taken over by Ballas in GTA V and the gang separated once again, with leadership like Sweet why would anyone expect any better.
Remeber Sweet is the boss what type of boss does all the dirty work. Bro tbf CJ went liberty city to work for the Don Leones son stealing cars for the Italian mob. But yh the last 2 points are valid
@@h.a7472 What you say is true, Sweet is the boss and he wouldn't be doing the grunt work, but why should CJ? CJ is brother of said boss basically Grove Street Royalty and why is he doing drive-bys, stealing guns and killing drug dealers as if he's a soldier? He should be able to rest easy like Sweet.
Huh? Sweet was mad at cj because he abandoned his family when they needed him the most to go steal goes for joey leone
@@mania4270 We all know that and I agree. The only reason I mentioned that was because the guy above mentioned that he went off to live a legit life but was still doing crime. Sweet as we all know has a right to be angry
Amusingly, it's CJ's actual attempt at being friends with Cesar that pretty much kick-started his climb up the ladder. Through Cesar, CJ met Catalina which allowed him to make some money while in exile. On top of that, it was Cesar who got CJ involved in the cross-country racing that allowed CJ to both make an ally with Woozie and got him the garage in San Fierro which acted as a decent base of operations in the city and if Kendl is anything to go by, she'd help turn the garage into an actual business. From there, you got allies (of a sort) with Toreno, Zero, and then Woozie's involvement in the Casino business which leads to CJ working with the Vice City characters. If it weren't for CJ making friends with Cesar, none of that would have went down as it did.
And then, meeting Madd Dogg and becoming his manager too.
In conclusion, Cesar is more of a brother than Sweet ever will be.
@@ScottyIsHim And if you include part of Franklin's story from V, one main message the GTA series puts out there is that "blood is thicker than water" can go fuck itself. Both CJ and Franklin better themselves by making friends outside their family circle.
To make a long story short, it's good that Sweet was taken to jail and CJ could explore the whole San Andreas state 😁
@@gaminginvestigators Pretty much yeah.
Always hated how he treated his brother. I feel like Ryder is more of a brother to CJ rather than Sweet. Ryder and CJ had good chemistry and they joke around which makes it more lighter.
Indeed, despite Ryder's rudeness and bad attitude, they are better friends than Carl and Sweet
I wish Ryder wouldn't betray GSF. He actually shouldn't have in earlier stages of development but they just couldn't fit him into scenario.
Which makes the mission where you go to kill him all the more heartbreaking. I literally didn't want to kill him my first time. Like do I really have to? Lol so anticlimactic to when you do kill him.
@@MistahJay7 eh actually the mission itself is disappointing. You are just killing your childhood homie and CJ doesn't even says anything about it.
Also ryder and cj was the one that helped grove street families to get better weapons
The fact that Sweet did little to nothing to help Grove Street climb back and CJ moved up on top further supports the theory that Sweet was jealous of CJ.
Ofc he was jelaous if he wasn't he would have supported carl and be happy for him that he became a millionare who has a casino in las venturas a car buisiness in san fierro and he is manager of a famous rapper along with getting his mansion
Sweet is the personification of the hood mentality. he's only ever known the hood so he's simple minded. Carl is a dreamer. he wants better for himself and his loved ones and does what needs to be done to make that happen. A big part of that may be attributed to him having traveled and seen life in places like liberty city. sweet on the other hand probably has never been anywhere. so his mentality is small time. he may also be projecting his insecurities onto Carl cause while he may be a general his gang has crumbled under his leadership. so much so that his top soldiers basically sold him out
I think Sweet is also very affected by the death of their mother and their brother. That's probably the reason of why he's so angry when he sees his siblings leave the hood for the outer world. He fears losing them too, and he wants to stay the "father" of the family.
@@ImEazyE And he isn't realizing it actually was because of the "4 da 'hood" activities. I mean, living in the neighnorhood where 2 rival gangs involved into a turf war is already very risky. Kendl knows it and she doesn't wanna get shot like her mom
@@ImEazyE I believe Sweet knows some (or a lot) of it is his fault, but blames Carl. Sweet ain’t shit imo.
But you know, this hood mentality wouldn't be that bad if he tried to do something for this family. We are getting that he was against drugs, but that's not enough. Sweet has to be up to date, and react to different events, making his gang strong instead of being "whatever man".
@@kyrahsmith Same. He just made CJ as a scapegoat, I believe. No wonder why CJ leave Los Santos, because everyone thought he was blame for Brian Johnson's death, but I think Sweet actually was MORE responsible for this.
Sweet is a dangerous combination of naive and unimaginative rather than dumb imo. ''Hoping that the LA crack epidemic of the 1990s is just going to resolve itself without me having to lift a finger despite being right in the heart of it'' just reeks of this to me. As is his continued trust in Big Smoke despite the guy moving into Ballas territory.
We agree, clearspira! 😁
Agreed, Sweet isn't really dumb (though he once did a stupid decision and almost get himself killed), but he's naive and narrow-minded
Best comment. A lot of people confuse being dumb with being naive and unimaginative, a much more nefarious combination.
Sweet just refused to change. He was trapped in the Gang life and Grove Street. He always had this mind that CJ was running away from 'what's real' when in fact the reality was it was Sweet that was running away by refusing to change with the times and evolve like his brother.
Sweet wanted the same old 'Hood', the same old 'Gang life,' and criticized anyone who wanted change to better there position be it Smoke Ryder and his brother C.J. In fact it was Sweet's peer pressure and manipulation of his brother C.J by using the death of Brian and his Mother as a constant tool to do Sweet's dirty work for hm.
Or maybe he likes when something goes bad? Try to understand this guy 🤦♂
@@gaminginvestigators
You should try writing correctly so we can understand you. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I think it was a pretty good analogy of mine when I stated that Sweet never wanted to leave the hood and how he’s trapped in the gang life.
It’s so good that you actually mentioned it in one of the comment threads. So I guess you agree with me? For someone who was told by a pseudo RUclips psychologist that I need to try and understand a fictional character I don’t think I’ve done too bad.
You just lost a subscriber by the way for your rudeness. Next time learn to communicate with your fan base better. 🤦🏻♂️
@@HaHa56767 what happened here?
@@gabrielfmm Somebody tripped up. 🤣
@@HaHa56767 🤔🤔
GTA San Andreas is actually quite dark when you understand the political scenario of the time and the black communities mindset and reaity. OG Loc pretty much describes Sweet (and most gang leaders and members) when he says "Motherfuckers always trying to bring a nigga down". That's how it is. CJ made it big, Sweet pulled him back into point 0. He can't let go and won't allow others to let it go to seek better lives and futures.
OG Loc screwed Madd Dogg.
@@thelonewolf70x7 indeed.
In short; misery loves company.
Yeah, you're absolutely right :/ It kinda reminds us of Michael Corleone when he said "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in." 🙁
And imagine after getting those millions in Venturas, the story would end with his death in a gang war, that would be bleak
Sweet's angry reaction to Carl becoming a freaking success always rubbed me the wrong way, all b/c CJ didn't want to stay stuck in the craphole neighborhood unlike Sweet
CJ grew, Sweet didn't
Yeah, and that's why Cj is better. He knows he won't end well if he still would be a street thug, like Sweet.
And that's really sad, you know. Because if Sweet would react properly, and try to get some connections, and find other ways of making money, Big Smoke wouldn't betray GSF.
💯💯💯 Exactly. That "Hood4Life" mentality is self-destructive and it's functioning backwards. CJ had the more realistic view - the world is much bigger than the 'hood' and he tried to get a piece of it to take care of his family. Sweet had the "crabs in a barrel" view.
@@gaminginvestigators literally the ONLY reason why Big Smoke betrayed GSF was literally because he wanted money and power... this wouldn't have happened if Sweet would do something and not just LITERALLY DOING NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN
i almost got mad in irl saying i would of left him right where he at lol
Sweet is one of those characters that was designed for you to love to hate them. He was portrayed perfectly as the most annoyingly, drag-down, careless person in the entire game. He cares more about the past than his present, and always uses the hood to gaslight CJ into feeling sorry for ditching them 5 years ago. And you can't do nothing but love to hate him
I guess Sweet was responsible to death of Brian Johnson too, but he didn't wanted to admit it and instead blamed CJ for that.
Yeah, Rockstar North did a great job in terms of creating the worst gang boss in the franchise 😁
love to hate him? sweet is a headache, as annoying as tanisha or lamar
@@realtalunkarku Tenpenny is way better target for hate. Because he's way more sinister than he looks.
man you sound just like smoke right now.😡
Sweet didn't want anything better for himself, he just wanted to be a hood dude. I get it: he was thinking locally because that's where he grew up, but he never wanted anything more for himself or his biological family. CJ, at least, knew there was no future in the street life. He tried to keep it close but didn't want to base his operations in a house on the corner. Sweets didn't want to deal drugs but didn't want to build his community. It can't be both.
this is the same example of Lamar and Franklin mentality in GTA V
At least Franklin moved his life a little to the events of the Agency / Contract and Lamar making LDO business being legit and not ilegal it’s some kind of a step to be better in his way and specially after the Ballas and Families being friendly during the Dr Dre phone case thx to Vernon it would slow the killing from Lamar lol
And that's awesome that he is worried about the hood. But being worried and doing nothing is total BS. Sweet and everyone else knew that every single gang has to increase their influence and power to stay on the top or even on the map. We mustn't leave issues growing bigger like Sweet did, otherwise the hood will be f*cked up all the time instead of from time to time. 🤦♂
The hood is fucked either way. No matter if you come back & try to do something with it. Look at all the successful people that come back to their hoods & try to make it better. But people resent people who make it out. Successful people from the hood just end up getting killed. Hood Shit.
I don't think Sweet was pissed of about the drugs and more so that the enemy gangs were the one in controll of the flow of it. I think what Sweet hated was that the enemy gangs fucked up their gang not through the drugs themself, but their distribution. I would be easy to bag members or to extort loyal one when they are high on your stuff. Also drugs are not just drugs. It is also important how they are made and what is in them. If you punch them real bad, then you could easly destroy the addict.
Sweet was institutionalized. The perfect example of Voltaire's quote: 'It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.'
That's a great way to summarize this dude, Beckett!
What is freedom to someone that's never been free?
Ambition and succes are anathema to those who expect it to be easy/served on a silver plater.
CJ :- works with his enemy who is friend of ballas and for the secret agent to save sweet and gets money and places for sweet in other better cities without gang wars and more opportunities
Sweet :- you did it for yourself , not for the hood
The hood :- killed his mother , brother , corrupted their friends , started wars
😆
I guarantee you that had Ryder not become a traitor, he would be a hell of a lot more of a likable character than Sweet. His missions actually benefitted the gang more than any other mission in LS ever did.
My head cannon is he died during the mission The Green Saber fighting the Ballas. His last dialogue "can't stop me" sounds like his stubborn and motivated mental focus refusing to accept defeat and continue to attack but was slightly subdued flow indicating his body was done. Not like he was about to dive off a pier and run away.
Ryder was a warrior. When the Ballas did a drive by at Beverly's funeral he shot back. The only times he ran was at the Well Stacked Pizza, and Jefferson hotel. That was probably because of CJ encouraging him to leave, and the fact they were ambushed and vastly outnumbered by superior firepower. I also believe the latter is part of the changes made to make him a traitor. I feel he would fight his way in to save Sweet or at least provide cover fire on the outside of the hotel.
Indeed. I wish he wasn't a traitor and instead helped CJ to team up against Smoke
hell, him and Smoke are traitors yet are more likeable than Sweet lol
Ryder was changed to betray CJ bc of Rockstar had treated the voice actor poorly.
Also CJ's life improved so much after Sweet was locked up.
The moment when you learn that Ryder, the traitor, actually did a lot more to help the Grove Street Families than Sweet, the loyal leader of the gang.
Because he wasn't a traitor originally. Rockstar made him traitorous later and didn't developed his treason throughly
It would've been great if I ain't had to kill him
Because traitor - not an archetype, its tactical choice. Ryder and BS trying to help gang, Sweet's ignorance make them going other way
@@dbua4748 Only Ryder. BS is after CJ's death.
It's crazy how the politics within GTA San Andreas is overlooked
And it's also annoying when people calls the plot of that game "full of stupid cliches" and call the characters "dumb and uninteresting". They never ever tried to understand it.
@@alexferrana3979 tbh i thought it was just another gta game but watching a retrospective explained it better to me
@@dmcfail987 Same. That guy did a great job
And they forget it’s set in 1991-92 LA, where crooked cops, crack, and the Rodney King riots took place.
1 of the reasons to be an riot part of the story and even an cheat
It's pretty ironic when you think about it. Because the only Grove Street Families member who did anything to help the Grove at all (besides CJ, of course) was Ryder, and look what he ended up doing.
Ryder was meant to stay loyal till the end, but his voice actor have issue with Rockstar in later part of development, so without voice for Ryder in later storypart R* don't have idea what to do with his character aside from killing him off.
Yeah, that's really sad 😦 But we have to underline that Ryder was never going to betray GSF during the Los Santos storyline. He did it only because he didn't have a choice. We can perfectly see how he tried to help his gang when Sweet wasn't in jail yet.
@@Xul-Xata Yeah R* could killed Ryder during The Green Sabre mission as a loyas GSF member than made him a traitor. They had and issue with the voice actor not the character.
The fact that he couldn't achieve anything in 5 years, which CJ was able to do so in such a short time speaks volumes. But again CJ was played by the player.
Funny as hell, right? 😅
I HATED Sweet at the end of the story. I had Cj come back to the Grove with millions $$ in a suit & a Rolex, ready to build an empire! And all this fool Sweet wanted to do was stay in the hood
Yeah and Sweet is calling him perpetrator, running away from what's real, come on 😂
Plot twist:Sweet never went to school because Grove Street was his true calling
No shit, man! 😮
that ain't plot twist, it was more like a Fact lmao
“When you stop acting like you the man”. Sweet actually said this to CJ who brought the grove street into the map. And then he had the nerve to brag about stealing a shoe for kendl to have food, while cj gave kendl a garage business, a casino, and a good life out of gang banging. Cj made the grove strong without even trying as hard as sweet. Sweet is one of the worst characters that was ever written in a gta game.
Sweet doesn't realize that CJ is the one who holds Grove Street Families 🤦♂
This is what Sweet defenders don't think about.
Sweet has always frustrated me and the fact he doesn’t even thank CJ for looking after their sister is just shitty! Makes you wonder what Sweet would’ve done if CJ was in prison? Most likely on his couch while the Ballas took over.
The shit that CJ did for Toreno was outrageously dangerous. All that just for him to get Sweet out. The reason Sweet was even alive was because CJ worked for Toreno. And yet sweet had the balls to say CJ didn't do nothing for the hood
Sweet is a control freak, wants everything to go his way or else its no way. But never actually does anything or takes accountability.
Exactly, man! This guy tries to have control over everything without any effort and that's why he failed. 😁
"And What the hood done for me?
Always dragging me down."
These quote by CJ is the truest line in the story. Ganglife ain't cool
The original SA looks so much better than the redicolous definitiv Edition. 😂
Best way to describe sweet. No accountability. Nothings ever good enough but it's everyone else's fault
Straight facts right there 👏
The time when that crackhead chick was sweet talking him into smoking crack I lost a lot respect for him. Like why bro? After everything I've done you're just going to throw it all away.
The dude literally gave up even though he did nothing to fix this situation 😂 What was he expecting? 😆
Indeed. If CJ didn't interfered, Sweet would likely get addicted to crack. Such a shame for a guy who always claimed that drugs is bad
Honestly who else was mad asf when CJ finally got Sweet out of prison and was excited to tell him about all the work and connections he made along the way outside the grove and Sweet just shit on him. Like I legit felt so heartbroken cause I thought he would’ve been hype too, or at the very least abit proud of him.
We felt exactly the same, bro. It's really weird that CJ didn't decide to tell Sweet about everything, especially the missions where he literally risked his life for him 🤦♂
At that time I was really convinced that Sweet was a really piece of sh*t of a brother to CJ. Wozzie and Cesar was more of a brother to him than Sweet could ever be.
My heart sank when Big Bear tells Carl the truth about Sweet eventho its not in the game
Sweet wasn’t stupid he was just stubborn, ungrateful, and set in his ways and literally no one could change his mind. His bitterness to CJ at the beginning is understandable but at the end he’s just being ungrateful for every CJ did. Cesar was more of a brother to CJ. Cesar pretty much was what Ryder and Sweet should’ve been to CJ
Yeah, exactly 🤦♂️
i dont think so, he is pretty stupid that after getting out of prison and after insisting they will take the hood back again he immediately gives up and tries to smoke crack after getting seduced by a walking nightmare of a crackhead in Beatdown on Bdup lmfao
@@wasabi5338 nah i think deep down he knew CJ was right but didn’t want to accept it and almost tried crack as a coping mechanism. You wouldn’t believe the lengths stubborn people will go to so they won’t admit that they are wrong or flawed.
Sweet "When Kendl needed shoes, I robbed people for the money"
CJ: I got Kendl a real estate business to run with me and a managerial position in a Triad casino I own a stake in because I'm a personal friend of the Triad boss.
Seriously, the moment Sweet goes to prison and CJ doesn't have to drag him along, shit starts taking off. 5 years CJ wasn't there and things only got worse for the Grove and the Johnsons. One week with Sweet out of the picture and CJ, Kendl and Cesar are living the high life, making new and even powerful friends, dismantle the Loco Syndicate and even get Sweet out of prison. What does he do once he's out? Sits on the same shitty couch. You know, he could be working with CJ, getting OGs from the GSF work as bodyguards and security for Madd Dogg, start lucrative businesses with the Triads and Aztecas, or any other shit to actually help the hood. No, instead he almost starts smoking crack. If CJ was 10 minutes late, he'd have become a crack fiend.
There's even cut dialogue from Big Bear where he talks about Sweet doing nothing while the hood got worse and the gang fell apart.
the fact that rider only was mad at cj because, in his eyes, he was a coward, but never tried to put the blame on him over what happened in the 5 years while sweet straight up blames you for all even though he was the leader says something.
I will never forgive Rockstar for ditching Ryder in the most anticlimatic way possible.
I can honestly say that in the cut scene for the mission Los Desperados when Sweet was going on and on about how he robbed people for money when Kendl needed new shoes and when their mom needed an operation I REALLY wished that there was a part with Cj tells what he had to go through to get Sweet out of prison. Like Carl went through a lot for Sweet while he was locked up which is true, NOT for his self. Cj had to blow up a drug lab in San Fierro. (Yay-Ka Boom Boom), Drive a monster truck around the desert. (Monster), Hijack a truck on the freeway. (Highjack), Protect a cargo plane when enemy helicopters attacking it. (Interdiction), Buy an abandon airfield. (Verdant Meadows), Take flying school. (Learn to Fly), Fly a plane at an low altitude. (N.O.E.), Destroy a airplane full of government agents. (Stowaway), Break into Area 69 and steal a jetpack. (Black Project), Steal a jar of green substance. (Green Goo) And finally, he had to steal a military jet from the San Fierro Naval Base. (Vertical Bird) Many times Cj has been in dangerous predicaments, he did it all while having C.R.A.S.H. on his back and I wish Cj would have told him all of the things he did that was WAY more bigger than just robbing people so that Sweet would be more appreciative and realize that CJ is the reason why he's out of jail instead if constantly bringing up him leaving five years ago in 1987.
There's actually a rewrite version of this game's storyline in fanfiction where CJ calls Sweet out on his behavior and explained to him what he did to break him out of prison. It's called GTA San Andreas Rewrite. I can't link it to you since RUclips will delete any comment that posts links.
You're absolutely right, Teku! 👏 When it comes to us, we are afraid that CJ decided to not tell him about all of this because he felt that Sweet might literally not listen to him. Sweet might be like a person which hears a story and then immediately forgets about it.
You might want to cut the 2 Truth missions from this list as those were missions CJ did only because he was dumb enough to not say "NO" to the hippy idiot.
I understood where sweet was coming from, but he definitely went about it the wrong way. Sweet is the epitome of “Never forget where you came from”. His mother and brother died there so I’m sure he felt it was his duty to make things right and even, hence the mission (Los Sepulcros) Sweet was emotional from the losses..which would cause a leader not to think straight.
It's a good thing when you say to someone "Don't forget about your roots". However, it's a bad thing when you limit yourself to one place or do nothing to make your place look better 🤦♂
If you read the GTA San Andreas Rewrite in Fanfiction, the game is rewritten and has the part in Los Desperados where CJ finally calls Sweet out on his behavior and tells him everything he did to bail him out of jail. You can read it if you like.
that would be satisfying to read. where is it?
@@n0m4r22 Look it up in Fanfiction. It's called GTA San Andreas Rewrite.
I've been saying this ever since I properly replayed this game , sweet is the biggest , most ungrateful op ever bro .
Sweet doesn't even gives us that much money and instead damn respect where, Woozie and Cesar or even Toreno, at least they give much cashes
It explains how Ballas took over Grove Street. Even though they aren't connected to GTA V the events of San Andreas are still mentioned in game and it's nice to think that they are even though they arent.
one time I read somewhere that, CJ was killed right after the end of the final mission of GTASA, when he says "finna hit the block, see what's happenin'."
If the HD universe and 3D universe were connected, that would explain why the ballas control Grove Street now.
Well, it's worth emphasizing that we are talking about the 3D universe here 😉 Of course, we don't know what happened to GSF and Ballas from GTA San Andreas after the storyline, but there are many theories that could be discussed.
@@gaminginvestigators Franklin indirectly mentions CJ & Truth burning down the weed farm in Flint County in the new GTA Online mission.
@@gaminginvestigators if they're one, CJ probably left the hood and lives his life as a legitimate businessman.
@@uncommonsaucers2355 I read a theory that between the events of SA and LCS, CJ is the ‘made man’ that Toni Cipriani killed. Now CJ isn’t really a made man since he’s obviously not of Italian descent, but maybe Salvatore and Toni refer to him as such to play dumb about who he really killed. It’s at least a thought provoking theory, and that would explain how Grove Street would go to shit in the meantime.
Its nice someone finally made a video analyzing Sweet. It always pissed me off after doing all that work in Las Venturas to form a partnership with the Yakuza & you finally get Sweet an early release, only for him to be ungrateful as hell. Dude doesn't realize how many doors Carl just opened for him because he was too focused on shitty GROVE STREET. That shit got taken over by the Ballas 20 years later anyways
We're happy to hear that 😃 Actually, the casino was owned by the Triads, not Yakuza 😅 But yeah, it's a real shame that Sweet had this type of mentality, we only hope that he changed after the storyline...
@@gaminginvestigators oooohhh yeah they were the triads! foolish me!
GTA San Andreas and GTA V are in different universes, so we don't know what will happen to SA Grove Street after 20 years.
@@net6406 we do. Gta V takes place 20 years after. Gta IV, the DLCs, & V aren't a part of the 3D extended universe but it's still an extension of it
The Fact is, Sweet doesn't wanna change or grow
We are hoping that he finally grew up after the storyline though...
@@gaminginvestigators We will only know if Gta SA sequel comes in the future 😂
TheProfessinal said it well
Sweet has a old fashioned mindset “your born here, you die here” and Sweet seeing CJ going out makes him think he’s ‘betrayed him’ by leaving the hood
What Sweet lacks in this game is character development. This game tries so hard to get the gamers to sympathize with him and tries to make Sweet in the right. I'm sorry, but there's a strong disparity between having a sympathetic background and being a sympathetic person. There's nothing sympathetic about an ungrateful hypocrite who shits on his younger brother for not putting in work for the hood while he gives up on the hood himself and tries to smoke crack all because he was feeling "tired." That doesn't even mention the fact that he unfairly compared CJ's ambition to leave the hood to Big Smoke betraying his family to get into the crack game. And when CJ actually does try to explain what he did to bail him out of jail in the cutscene of Los Desperados, Sweet interrupts him and claims CJ kept yapping about what he did, despite CJ not even explaining anything at all. I want you to know that I don't hate Sweet. I just think he wasn't written well as a character towards the climax. I know I said this a bunch of times, but here's how I would develop Sweet as a character.
After Sweet bitches CJ out in the Los Desperados cutscene, CJ finally calls him out on his ungrateful attitude and leaves him on his own to help Cesar instead. After Cesar explains why he tried to get his hood back, CJ realizes what he did and returns to Sweet, and that's when we see a side of Sweet we never saw before. He actually apologizes for his ungratefulness towards CJ and concedes his own mistakes that were the cause of his gang's downfall and even acknowledges his hypocrisy. I actually got into a debate with another user telling me it's out of character for Sweet to apologize, which I consider utter bullshit since it gives more depth to Sweet's character and makes him more competent and improved as a leader. Then the brothers make a compromise, saying that as soon as they round up the gang to take over every Balla and Vago hood, then CJ is free to live his life the way he wants. It also helps the brothers each learn a lesson throughout all of this. CJ learns that while it's cool he's moved on up, he should still be around for his homies from the hood and never forget his roots, aka balanced lifestyle. He also learns that it's unhealthy to try to please an asshole just for him no matter how much of family they are to you. Sweet learns that while it's great he's loyal to his gang, it's unhealthy for him to drag his own sibling back into the hood and that his younger brother is old enough to live how he wants, and Sweet should let CJ do that if he truly loves his brother. It would make Sweet a whole lot more likable and develop both CJ and Sweet as characters so they could both empathize with each other to see each other's point.
I think you're right he really didnt change much compared to Carl, heck the reason why he declines Cesar in that mission was BECAUSE of Sweet's attitude.
It took Sweet telling him to help his friend for CJ to go. It kinda shows how much he values Sweet's opinion about this whole deal. Poor man got bullied so much he almost didnt help his future step brother reclaim his territory because he might get reprimanded for being a busta or something.
This is another awesome comment, waters! As for us, there is a chance that Sweet changed his perception after the storyline - when the smoke went down. We really hope that's what happened :/ Thanks for some thoughts concerning Sweet's character 🤘
always pissed me off that in the early game sweet slowly started respecting CJ to the point that he turned things around all by himslelf which he says in the cut scene of "The green sabre mission" and then when sweet gets released despite that he mentions sometime on the phone that he is on life sentence and suddently unbeknownst to him he gets released and CJ picks him up Sweet looks at CJ like it doesn't matter because the hood is "important"
Prison can really mess you up, in Sweet's case, it happened to made him more misreable
Sweet is a genuine reflection of gang members in real life. When you're in a gang, that's your whole way of life, especially when you're a gang leader. So it makes sense for Sweet to act the way he does (for the most part). I think him being unlikable was intended but he could have at least had an actual character arc instead of being an asshole 97% of the game.
We can't believe that many gang leaders act like him, man... I mean, we do understand the hood mentality, it can be possible. But doing nothing to maintain influence, no deals, and so on, is highly implausible to us :/
As a teenager when I found myself at the mission when we go fetch Sweet from the police station and he goes off on CJ, I never understood why he got so mad at him for speaking about what he's done for himself and Kendl..
Then now as an adult, I kept replaying the game and the more I replayed the game the more I realize just how much of a narrow minded asshole he is. And now when I even recall his words "you're always a perpetrator running from what's real", I get extremely mad because he's basically saying the hood is where it's at. The hood is where CJ belongs. The hood is the only thing that matters, and it's not!
I always asked myself why CJ didn't clap back at him about what he had to do to get him out of prison. The amount of outlandish stuff he put himself through JUST FOR SWEET. Everything he's done was for SWEET, and yet Sweet continues to belittle, berate and degrade Carl.
So in my opinion, Sweet is up there with my least liked characters in GTA history. He's really one of the worst.
All true! Sweet is really a douche, honestly
Straight facts right there, scotty! 👏
All CJ wanted is to make money to bail his brother out of jail and destroy his traitors and manipulators. Later he found out how their system worked and made a plan how to defeat every single one of them. Toreno had same plan, except he was pawn in the game of chess on world scale and by will of God, they both met at same place at same time. Toreno needed a man to do the dirty laundry for him and CJ needed someone powerful enough to bail out his brother. Basically perfect match happened. At the end, CJ achieved everything he wanted: money, power, freedom for his brother, revenge on his traitors and manipulators. Despite taking on most dangerous gangs by himself, breaking in military bases, robbing, stealing and killing people for money and using that same money to start multiple businesses, fighting police, fbi and dangerous organizations, getting involved in international conflicts, destroying drug suply chains... Sweet was still mad at CJ.
Btw, when Sweet said:"You did it for yourself, not for family", CJ was like:"Man I should have told Toreno to shoot you."
Great comment.
Perfectly said, Salle! 👏
Smoking a blunt and smoking crack are two totally different things 😭😭😭
The fact:after the mission end of the line Carl jhonson become a successful business man,he got every girl like he ever dream before.
But carl got sick after 48 years old and his last word is "all i have to do was follow that damn train"
and me and my homies had to follow the damn train and
we destroyed the damn train
RiP 1992-2050
Sweet, when he wakes up in the morning: "streets"
*CJ steals a fighter jet*
Sweet: I don't care what you did your useless
CJ: doesn't do anything
Sweet: CJ, you ain't about the streets, man!
CJ: does something
Sweet: CJ, you ain't about the streets, man! 🤦♂
@@gaminginvestigators Can you also do Call of Duty lore videos like the backstory of Yuri and Makarov in one video?
I remember on my first playthrough when you finally go to pick up sweet and my young self is all happy that all the grind is coming to fruition and my brother is gonna be back and then This guy wants to go back to the hood ? The fuck ? Back to boring gang wars and territory take over ? I was so pissed I didn't play for a good week or so
Same. Sweet is too stubborn and narrow-minded
Sweet is a total douche... CJ literally risked his life many times just so he gets free, yet he doesn't even thank him for it.
@@gaminginvestigators agreed. CJ did a lot of things he won't do "only for himself", yet Sweet always calls him selfish and coward. Now I really hate him
The man was far too hung up on sentimentality, was vindictive and had trouble letting things go to boot. The families would of been better with CJ leading them.
Exactly! The past should have been left behind long ago, the whole gang is collapsing and he is doing nothing. What a joke 🤦♂
Hell, in the hidden dialogue it's stated that Sweet was responsible for GSF's downfall.
Wow, interesting
Which particular line of dialogue are you talking about? 🤔
@@gaminginvestigators When CJ takes Big Bear to rehab he basically said that Sweet did nothing to hold the Grove when CJ left.
It's probably not a coincidence that the Grove's fortunes turned for the better after Sweet went to jail. His "leadership" was an absolute disaster.
Sweet let things go down the toilet for five years. He blamed _everything_ on CJ ever since Brian died. CJ and Kendall did more for the families in months, what Sweet failed to do for years.
Straight facts 👏
When I was younger I used to think Sweet was the man, loyal and shit. But as I finished the story growing older, the most I finish the dumber I think he is. He got no evolution mentality at all, it's kinda bizarre.
He didn't learn from his mistakes at all 🤦♂️
And this is exactly why if GTA San Andreas ever made a prequel game, Sweet should be the main protagonist so his attitude would be explained more.
Like sweet will be protagonist and deuteragonist of two different games. Makes me wonder who can be the deuteragonist of the San Andreas prequel game.. and I'm also guessing that it will be a smaller version of San Andreas that excludes Las Venturas and San fierro since sweet never mentioned about traveling to both cities.. unless the game reveals that sweet actually traveled to both cities and did not feel happy at all
It’s real life people like Sweet that rather dwell in their circumstances instead of trying to better themselves and improve.
I think Sweet had some massive abandonment issues. There’s no dad that we know of, Brian and his mom died, CJ left and his sister his having a life outside of him and the gang. He’s clinging to the Grove and pretending these problems don’t exist because it would drastically change the dynamic and life he had gotten used to.
Probably
Definitely! And frankly speaking, it looks much worse than what happened with Hilary King from GTA Vice City. Hilary King is nothing compared to Sweet in terms of abandonment issues. And on top of that, Sweet doesn't do anything to help the family, the gang, or the hood in general. It's no wonder that CJ and Kendl prefer to be out of this.
yup mr johnson went to get the milk one day
When life backs you into a corner pretty soon you call that corner home
@@TheMrfoxguy I know that from first hand experience 😅
So Sweet is basically Lamar way before GTA 5 even exists.
Least Lamar is willing to change
Nah, Lamar atleast tried to do things for the hood, in the most idiotic ways, but he atleast tried, but Sweet men, Sweet is just that guy that only watches the disaster happening and complaining about that without trying something to stop that.
Colloquially speaking, yes 😃
Sweet isn’t overrated he’s just extremely realistic for a gang member. I don’t think people understand how common his mindset is among gangsters in real life, the do every for the hood and gang mindset cause that’s all they know is very accurate also a lot of gang members don’t actually want out of the life
People have 0 IQ to understand why Sweet is the way he is. In no way I'm defending his bitter attitude towards CJ etc. but come on.. If you see The Introduction video you know well before CJ arrives that he cares for his friends to avoid another tragedy like with his mom.
We only hope that he changed his perception of things after the game!
At first I liked him,but later I found him annoying and selfish. Sweet was just sitting in his house, playing dices and eating fast food, claiming he does everything for da hood. In fact, he never. He also love to press his younger brother and blame him for cowardice and selfishness, but again, Sweet was almost killed because of his own stupidity if CJ didn't saved him
Straight facts 👍
@@gaminginvestigators Yeah
He's one dimensional and stubborn but not necessarily stupid.
Ryder is a childhood friend who makes his own stuff.
Weed and ecstasy are not nearly as detrimental to a community as crack. See: history of the United States.
He's got a bigoted view of Caesar because he's the head of another gang that his sister is interested in.
He's dedicated to Grove St because he's dedicated to Grove St.
He is the character archetype of the old school gangster.
Loyalty to the hood and strict adherence to subjective morals.
well, Sweet was stupid when he went into a date on the rival gang's turf and was forced to call CJ for help
@@alexferrana3979 well he probably was taken by surprise that other families were that hostile to grove street OGs
@@universe8607 Well, he shouldn’t have went into another gang territory in the first place.
Let's only hope that Sweet learned from his mistakes after Tenpenny was taken care of 😁
@@universe8607 not really. He literally says in the game that they have beef, yet he goes there to date one of the women in their turf? But Cesar is a problem despite his gang and the grove being neutral lmao.
Sweet and Lamar were identical in terms of stubbornness.
That's a very good insight!
All sweet did was just shit on CJ and talk about the hood. But he missed points and bigger pictures. He got himself jammed up, but who was there mainly? You guessed right, CJ. I didn’t like his [Sweet] character.
Straight facts 👌
#MYTH Alot before Carl broke the relationship with Catalina, she planned to kill him many times.
Ryder was a dumb too, and blamed CJ all the way through. "You still a busta to me CJ" as he said.
Sweet on the other side blamed CJ before flying to the East Coast for five years.
Thanks a lot for another video
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We are glad that you enjoyed this video, Ben 🤘 As for Ryder blaming CJ, honestly we don't believe he was talking like that for real. 😁
Sweet makes Roman look like a genius
i hated this character from the moment he got in the screen. The worst part of the game, easily. Never said something clever or funny, was always stressed out of his mind and a complete buzz kill.
The game completely fails to make the player empatize with him and his later situation.
I feel like I've met people like sweet, people who feel like you abandoned the hood just cause you move to another area or you're doing business in another area, just stupid if you ask me
I never knew that sweet was hated THAT much but looking back I can see why
His ungrateful attitude towards his OWN brother who worked hard to get him out of prison I’m pretty disappointed in sweet :/
Funny enough, we really admire CJ for the fact didn't leave for Liberty City again despite Sweet's taunts 😂
The last act of the game, when CJ returns to the hood only happens because Sweet drags CJ down again. At that point CJ was already big enough that the hood, Smoke and Tenpenny shouldn't have been a concern for him anymore.
That's true 😃 When CJ came back for Sweet, we can literally see that he didn't want to go back to Grove Street anymore.
Sweet is one of the more annoying characters. CJ keeps doing good and trying to make it right with everyone, trying to redeem himself for Bryan's death, but Sweet keeps guilt-tripping him constantly about it, and gaslighting him whenever he tries to do something unrelated to the hood. It's quite a toxic relationship, especially because Sweet does not give a shit about anything other than the hood. It's no wonder CJ left for Liberty, and it's no wonder he wanted to get away from the hood.
He only left cuz brian got killed and came back cuz his mom died and sweet was mad that cj got brian killed thats why hes hard on him but should’ve been more nice to him after he got him out of prison
Not wanting drugs is honorable but Sweet is just not a good leader.
I can tell you never experienced any street shit besides in video games.
your right 👍🏻
So what? 🤔
@@gaminginvestigators It doesn't matter unless your trying to commentate on street politics which you are here. Your perspective on sweet is so suburban I couldn't even watch the video.
@@Bdb83 The video was just more on how Sweet is written badly as a leader. Not that personal.
Sweet really pissed me off during Homecoming when he said that CJ sounded just like Big Smoke
I feel as though a lot of the characters were kinda misinterpreted in san andreas. While I did adore the entire story and game, I think there could have been better things done with what they had. While R* made more missions connected to random stuff around the map just to flex with everything they have included.
Funfact: Faizon Love who voiced Sweet (he is the Big Worm in a "Friday" movie) was also on some ignorant antics. He once told that artist Dave East "ain't about crip life", because he ain't from L.A. or something like that.
😂
They should make a prequel game for San Andreas. Where we get to meet all the guys sweet mentioned that passed away during the their mothers funeral
Cesar was more of a brother than Sweet it's sad, during my playthrough of the game I hated sweet. Of how ignorant and selfish he was, and always be putting CJ down when CJ wanted to make amends for his past mistakes. It be your own people man.
Thanks for making this video bro. Sweet got sh*t for brains, CJ literally risked his Life 20 different ways to help him get out of jail but he still doesn't appreciate that
It's our pleasure, friend. We had to let it out after some time 😂
Sweet wanted to drag CJ down by wanting them to live and die in the hood instead of moving on from the life in the hood to become rich which is shown in Grove 4 Life. The only good result came from Sweet's insistence is they were able to tie up loose ends by killing Smoke and Tenpenny. Sweet even accused CJ of being a perpetrator, "running from what's real." and worse, accused him of being just like Smoke in Homecoming, but he didn't have any idea of what's real. What's real is CJ doesn't need the hood anymore because he's already powerful and he is right when he told Sweet that the world is bigger than the hood during the Grove 4 Life mission. While Sweet often accuses CJ of being selfish, he (Sweet) is actually the one who is very selfish and he's an ingrate since he accused CJ of being just like Smoke. CJ should've just angrily told Sweet the extremely hard and virtually impossible jobs he performed just to protect him and satisfy Toreno enough to have him released from prison. CJ killed countless gov't agents and military personnel and stole a military jet just for Sweet, yet he got harsh words and accusations in return.
Kendl is right in Cesar Vialpando mission, Sweet is a hypocrite and he is in no place to tell Kendl what is right or wrong, especially because he's telling her that dating Cesar is wrong while he commits murders and Kendl is not a criminal and can be successful via legal means. While Sweet is denying CJ the right to attend their mom's funeral since he was in Liberty City until her death, he himself is being a racist which Kendl pointed and claimed that they were not raised by their mom to be racists.
The only redeeming qualities I can see in Sweet are he does care about his family and he's brave enough to join CJ and their members in attacking enemy gangs despite being the boss of the gang. Most criminal gang and organization bosses would just be sitting comfortably inside their hideouts while their members die in battles.
Even Tenpenny was right saying that all these “Homies 4 life and street loyalty is a total bullshit.” CJ didn’t learn it when he ran out of LS because if Brian’s death. Tenpenny is right. All these gangs, unions, brotherhoods and crime families don’t have love, care, respect and values. Only self-advantage and profit. CJ’s life finally got better only after Tenpenny took him out of LS, and he started to look for new friends and allies, got few business opportunities and became successful.
Weed may be a drug but trying to compare it to crack or PCP is funny.
The funniest 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It had pcp on it that's why it was bad
Umm yeah, that's why we mentioned soft drugs such as weed/ecstasy first and then hard ones like PCP 🤔
@@gaminginvestigators ecstasy and weed aren't similar either.
Yea, I never could get why he acted like CJ did NOTHING when the man was basically buying the entirety of San Andreas like he was Disney slowly buying up Florida. It'd be one thing if he just came out and said all that matters is the togetherness of the GSF and their hard stance on drugs, with all his contradicting habits, it seemed like he just didn't know what to do and lashed out so he wouldn't have to admit he was out of his depth.
This guy is simply ridiculous 🤦♂ But let's hope he changed his way of thinking after the storyline 😃
Sweet isn’t a bad character at all. You would have to see it in his POV. He’s all about his hood, he never changes and he never flips. He doesn’t snitch and he doesn’t run away. All his missions are hood based because that’s what’s most important to him. He’s feels obligated to keep his whole hood on top. CJ probably wouldn’t have been the same character if we didn’t have a leader like sweet. Big smoke would’ve been took over the streets, the only thing that was holding Smoke and tenpenny back from destroying the streets was Sweets presence in the streets. Like the green Sabre, they said they was aiming for Sweet. Why, tho? Because sweet would’ve never let drugs or any other threat ruin his neighborhood just for some money. Every other character in the game is pretty much driven by money, but sweet is driven by his heart and loyalty to his hood.
The problem with all of this is that he doesn't even do anything to improve the hood and thinks everything will blow over. He may not be a bad character, but he's still a poorly written one.
@@waters228_91 But he does stuff to improve the hood, he’s tried to bring all families sets together, he comes along with you when take the hood back, he even took a bullet in the green Sabre when he was trying to end the ballas for good. He’s not as capable as Cj, but he does his due diligence
@@Turn2tmh "Tries" is the key word here. CJ actually did most of the work to get the gang back on its feet. Hell even Ryder, the traitor, actually helped the Grove more than Sweet ever did in the storyline (after completing Robbing Uncle Sam, the GSF members got stronger weapons and are much more useful in gang wars).
On top of that, Sweet is an ungrateful hypocrite who gets no character development at all, and that's what he was missing.
@@waters228_91 I think that's the point of Sweet's character though LOL. Traditional, stuck in the past, stubborn, unambitious, loyalty to the hood/family only...he didn't need any character development at all.
Don't get me wrong, he's not very likeable, but that's what his characterization was. There's people like him in real life compared to how over the top Ryder & Big Smoke were...
He's an incredible flawed character, but I saw his POV. He def could of been written better for sure though...
@@SeaOfVomit That's the issue here. The story really tries so hard to make the gamers sympathize with him. I mean if they were deliberately going to make him unlikable by exaggerating his stubbornness, then that would be fine. But you can't have him act out this way and expect people to sympathize with him at the same time. It don't work that way. He's either a gangster who should garner sympathy from the gamers deep down, or he's an unsympathetic asshole who is deliberately written as a bad boss. It can't be both. It has to be only one of those.
I love that this channel’s videos gives depth for me, and having me more inclined to saying that CJ is the best GTA protagonist. Despite all the shit he’d been through, especially coming from his brother, he was always for his family.
Always happy to please, Vader! 😃
He knew he had and was nothing without the little bit of power he had in Grove St.
A good ending for him would have been self sacrifice for Carl or Kendl.
Sweet would have had more dimensions if he was proactively fighting against the drugs in the hood. If the story had cj come in at the intro with sweet and gsf on the back foot with their war on drugs thing would be alot more dynamic.
Sweet wasn’t bias or racist he literally said “I have beef with them”
Uhh Leroy Lopez? Hernandez? Does this ring a bell?
@@micohdeguzmandmd SO? That is enough to call someone "racist"? Ridiculous.
@@user-tt2fh8nf1o sure
What beef though? Like what was their history with GSF?
What beef do they have? They are literally many streets from each other, Varrios Los Aztecas are in rivalry with Los Santos Vagos while GSF fight with the Ballas. And as for the racist thingy, just look at this Sweet line from the "Cesar Vialpando" mission -> "Some things ain't just meant to happen. I mean, what if y'all kids? Leroy Hernández? That don't sound good, girl." The guy is literally saying that if she would have kids with him, it would look bad. Who the hell is he to say this? And he justifies this by saying "I know how they feel about you". Sure, everyone looks at her as an attractive girl, yet Sweet has only one problem with someone outside the gang. This is ridiculous 😄
I ain't gonna' look at Big Bear (The Crackhead) and Ryder (The Pothead) as the same shit, I don't see why Sweet has to. Ryder, though a traitor, was a reliable homie to have on missions whereas you ain't never gonna' take a crackhead out to do shit. That could easily explain how Sweet goes easy on one drug and not the other. The being stupid with Cesar is true, but that's just 90's gang mentality, we didn't get along back then in LA. Sweet's main focus was always the homies and where they're at, not some businesses CJ got going on elsewhere. CJ representing the new gangster that wants to evolve out of the hood and Sweet representing the old ways of sticking with the hood through thick and thin. What I get from the game is that Sweet is a gangster first and a brother second, a good portrayal of some of the old OG's too.
[Reuniting The Families] "Ryder give CJ a break. He's basically turning grove around by himself!"
[Later On Mission]
"Man What you did for Our Hood?!"🙃🤣I've always side eyed sweet since middle school days playing this nonstop
Maybe he has memory issues?
Exactly, L-Storm! 😆 This dude is an embarrassment for any street gangster in Los Santos 🤦♂
Smoking weed and smoking Crack are completely different. Him not being upset over Ryder smoking blunts is a weird criticism
Now that i seen all this and those nostalgic cutscenes, Sweet seems like, he's stuck in the past, everyone is modernizing while he's doing what he's always been doing, being idle. Keeping to the "old ways" i guess, least thats how im seeing it.
The games changing, he's not moving at all. I almost see why GSF is only mentioned in GTA V now if this is how things were going.
Yeah, and the worst thing is, he doesn't realize that he really should make some changes. It's not like we expect him to change the rules completely, but we have to adapt to new situations...
The lack of understanding of gang culture is insane lol
I'm sayin😂
We do understand, we don't thing ya'll do.
And you're not a psychologist nor specialist, so I don't think you even know.
Sweet is a stubborn man, unwilling to evolve.
Yeah, he is a stubborn man, yet he doesn't do anything to make people believe his beliefs 😂
It would've been an amazing plot point if the gang got pissed and stripped the leadership of the gang away from Sweet, and made CJ the leader. CJ proved to be more than smart enough in the last third of the game to strategize and get things done, and it would've been a nice change of pace to see that all the respect you've been earning in missions culminates in you becoming recognized as the gang leader when it matters most
I agree. The only thing Sweet seemed to have going for him was charisma. He seemed to motivate the homies better than CJ and call them to action. CJ was a planner and enforcer.
Hell yeah, Valor! And more than that, it would make a lot of sense that CJ, "the chosen one who brought the balance to the force", would be the new gang leader. Of course, Sweet probably would be second-in-command, but still, CJ deserves to be higher for real. For instance, Rockstar North could have done a cutscene where "a few months later" we can see how CJ rules GSF instead of Sweet, awesome stuff 🙂
Yeah. Sweet then relinquishes his position to CJ... Cj then successfully convinced sweet to leave Los Santos for a while and travels to San fierro and Las Venturas accompanied by a few gsf homies plus Cesar and a few Aztecas members.. Cj then shows sweet around San fierro, gives sweet accomodations in one of his San fierro safehouses, shows sweet his chop shop business, introduces sweet to woozie. Afterwards, cj, sweet and Cesar then travels to Las Venturas and shows more of his businesses like his casino.. sweet then gets his eyes opened and realized that there's a world outside the hood.. sweet then decided that he wanted opportunities of his own and cj then appointed sweet as a co owner of his garage and/or casino. Cj also hires a few gsf members as security for his garage, air field and casino for extra employment. Cj as the leader also made a truce with former rival gangs like the vagos, ballas, da nang thang and the riffa. The gsf then becomes one of the most respected gangs in San Andreas
@@99mrpogi the Rifa gang is believable but i dont think so for the Vagos, Ballas and Da Nang crew, these guys are lunatics