No, it means you will watch the entire season over and over, and then comment on this video, and then inspire me to leave this comment, in an infinite loop. Also, I think the season was 6.5 hours if you watched the whole thing. In Carcosa.
Lol NO, it means you get to watch similar crap and waste same amount of time at some point in the future. Because this is the new standard for television and movie writing. Apparently.
Laughable. It just shows the writer has a rudimentary thinking of genders. Men are blood thirsty savages and we’ll randomly join in a stabbing a random lady?? Oh, here comes the hero badass cleaning lady squad!!?! And they didn’t kill the scientists, the “ice” did! I’m so sick of seeing this kind of garbage in every other tv show. Maybe if this was cleverly written I’d feel different but it’s so lazy, so unbelievably I just laughed when they were killing Annie, and when all the cleaning ladies rounded up the men and killed them too. The whole conclusion was hilarious. I haven’t laughed at a single episode of television like this in ages honestly
It’s Issa Lopez’s unconscious bias toward white people. In her warped brain, white men are evil and she literally believed this was character consistency without a shred of evidence.
Mass murder is not just OK, but something to be celebrated when committed by vigilante native women custodial staff! Now it's easy to see why the writing of the show never really cared about 6 dead scientists. When Issa Lopez wrote it she already knew they were killers and deserving of retribution. But she neglected to consider that the audience wouldn't be clued onto their guilt until the finale, so some sort of care and considerable investigation of their murder is necessary to tell a good story. So many plot holes and conveniences it's not worth going through them all. Easter eggs just for the sake of pretending to connect Night Country to the True Detective series.
And there is no employee turnover at this ice station prison? After the Annie incident, no scientists left the crime scene job?😂 And if a new scientist arrives to join the team, does he/she deserve to die by association?😊
@@paulsommerhalder9049nope, none of them, not one, left the station after a girl got murdered right in front of them. Bc Issa Lopez wrote that the microbes they were trying to extract were going to change the world or some dumb shit like that.
@@paulsommerhalder9049 Saint Annie of Kwuktuk or whatever her name is, was no better than those little shit heels who run around today destroying the art and accomplishments of far better men. Another useless activist who purportedly loves mankind but hates men.
Danvers and Navarro building a fire in the science station garage when the cars were right there with heat was baffling. We see them drive the Tsalal SUV after the storm.
There were so many elements that were so outrageous, you cant even fathom the stupidity- 1. They are in an insulated building during a blizzard, and somehow they are at danger of freezing within hours or minutes when the entire facility was heated before this moment, and there are rooms EVERYWHERE that remained closed. 2. They are freezing and shivering while they are indoors away from the wind, in appropriately warm winter clothes which they used to travel the unheated caves perfectly comfortably, and under tons of blankets. 3. Somehow this deadly cold that was in danger of freezing them to death while indoors and next to a fire, doesnt kill the underweight senior citizen lady that falls into ice cold water, soaks her clothes through, and remains that way for the 30+ minutes it would take her partner to get her back inside, back to the fire, stripped, and re-bundled. 4. They are teeth chatteringly freezing while indoors and next to a damn bonfire. Being in a extremely cold place doesnt magically make fire less hot. Being next to a fire would keep you perfectly comfortable. 5. They start a fire instead of sticking together and going into a car and turning the heat on. A thing which we know they can do, because they DROVE ONE TO THE CLEANING LADY CULPRITS IMMEDIATELY AFTER. 6. Danvers is locked in a plexiglass room, and instead of shooting the plexi, which we know is not bulletproof seeing as her tiny ass breaks it with a little metal rod. 7.Navarro is completely brained by a fire extinguisher, dropped 15 feet onto her face, and is still capable of recovering, overpowering, and beating unconscious her male assailant. 8. They never explain the burned corneas / retinas There are so many more, but this show left me yelling at the screen more than any other. The random revelation that the cleaning ladies did it made no sense, and the fact that these CLEANING LADIES somehow knew ALL the tsalal men killed Annie, AND were okay with an octuple homocide, AND had noone escape, fight back, question them, etc. is beyond ridiculous to the point where i was legitimately laughing hysterically during the whole scene.
-Who peels an orange like that? Oh, someone trying to work one last spiral into the show. -Ghosts are real, and they're PG13 horror cliches. Cool. -Blair is somewhere between 16 and 70 years old. -Peter's wife and Danvers' daughter stopped being completely terrible because...the season was over? What an arc!
"The editor's notes said we needed more character development for Kayla and Leah so we added character development. What more do ya'll want from us?!" -The writers probably.
This season was unforgivably bad. It had so much going for it on paper I will forever wonder what it could have been in the hands of a good writer. Ironically for a show written by a woman and with two female leads, the most competent and likeable character was Peter.
Peter was the most likeable character and appeared to be the only one finding leads to solve investigation. So sad he has to live with the traumatizing aftermath of cleaning up fathers death. The writer director did a terrible job with this season.
I'm glad I streamed this instead of watching it live. When he busted out the "time is a flat circle" line, I had to pause it and walk around for 5 minutes to process the stupidity. (I repeated the same process shortly after the Cleaning Lady Mafia showed up.)
@@noahswiss1997 also, they never checked to see if the video was geo-tagged by the phone. that could have lead them to the exact spot it was filmed. even without the geo tag, they could have posted the video on 4 chan and those guys would have had the location figured out in a few days.
The whole punch a hole in the ice which then magically is a larger opening into a perfectly setup walkway in caves, magic drops into exactly the right area, magically teleporting again to the station, why in a secure station would they need to have a secret trap door? Why did danvers have to use a pole to break the glass when she had a gun? Why did they torture Clark instantly? When he hit Navarro' with that fire extinguisher i thought..... Well she's dead from that... Nope, not even knocked out, and when we cut back she's already overpowered him and beating him senseless?? Bad shit....
And so, the battered dude that was hiding in the station and wandering the ice caves for no reason... took the time to put 'Twist and Shout' back on a loop? Damn... 😂
Here’s what this show told me… Women are powerful, smart, and badass. Men are weak and evil except for the one young lad that is learning at the foot of the wise, older woman…and doing what he’s told. This entire show was a giant clickbait…”Spirals, Tuttles, and Rust’s dad, oh my!”
I dont think ive ever seen a show where every single character is so unlikeable. A show of constant pointless red herrings, plot going no where, all male characters are one dimensional emotional whimps, all female characters are cold hearted hyper ”masculin” sociopaths, and constant, and I mean constant cursing and blasphemy. Insuffereable.
I was hoping by miracle that the finale could redeem this season somewhat and improve it from bad to less than bad. Instead, it made it exponentially worse. That ending was atrocious.
What an absolute dumpster fire of an ending. I wish I could've reinvested the 8 or so hours of my life I spent watching this pile of shit of a season in something more productive like watching paint dry.
I gave up after the first 2 episodes. I could see exactly what Issa Lopez was doing, the symptoms were all there ceaselessly, and just the way she responded to the legitimate criticism of this dumpster fire only further confirmed I was right. Watched Erik's reviews, and that's all. His takes on this horrendous unwatchable show was all I got out of it...and was far more enjoyable!
90% of what was good about this season was written in our minds when we were trying to solve the mystery ourselves. The actual writing is really abysmal.
The most bonkers thing to me in this ep was when the two leading investigators of the Tsalal men's deaths almost killed the only witness(after beating him and torturing him) without even asking him about their fate. The main investigation of the entire tv show!
I must've binge watched the first season at least 5 times. I've not re-watched seasons 2 or 3 even once. I think season 4 goes in the never gonna watch again category.
Season 2 would have been okay without so many plotlines. Otherwise it wasn't so bad. Season 3 was actually really good. Season 1 is lightning in a bottle, almost perfect in every way. Those were the only true True Detective seasons. This train wreck doesn't even come close to season 2 and shouldn't be included in the TS franchise in my opinion.
Same here. I’ve watched season one at least 4 times start to finish. Couldn’t get through season two and eventually finished 3. This one was honestly the worst writing I’ve ever seen in any series of this budget. A true pile of dog shit.
@@NeeNee_B. To be fair, they had gone past the books in the final season. The plot itself wasn't that bad. Having Daenerys become the villain could have been a good story arch for her. But they just handled it so poorly it ruined her as a character.
This was beyond laughable. The woman cops also felt zero need to bring ropes or survival gear when knowingly entering ice caves. Feels like the dam burst on holding back the crappy writing until the very last episode. Feels to me like the writer and director are completely clueless about the real world . My favorite is the, “ice science requires massive pollution to extract biologicals”. What a contrived turd
@@nastyladdtbf, shooting bullet proof (?) glass in a small enclosure would have been incredibly dumber than any other writing mistake they made this season.
Gotta love how not one of the men tried to fight back once they were all let out of the semi truck. They were told to take off their clothes in the freezing cold and not one of them had any survival instincts.
@@blessings4eva863 They had hunting rifles and were at extremely close range. One of the women (if not more) had a scoped bolt action rifle. While grouped up, I’m taking my chances, especially when complying means death anyways.
Everyone can hate on seasons 2-3 all they want but both blew season 4 away. The whole premise of it was cheesy with the whole “Night Country” thing. Seems this is going to be a sad end to the show and will probably taint the whole True Detective franchise. We all just have to accept that season 1 was some of the best writing and acting of all time and can never be emulated.
Season 2 and 3 were masterpieces compared to this crap. I'm going to have remember all the reviewers who praised this crap so I know in the future never to listen to them again.
@@nickreynolds8391 Aye, it is. I think it's safe to say at this point looking at reviews - at least generally speaking - is useless. Because way too many of them are enthralled by absolute garbage.
True Detective : The Cleaning Crew Time is a flat sponge, it sucks up metaphors from better seasons and turns them into something smelly. The spiral represents dirty water going down the drain after a job well done. The tongue symbolizes taste, as in the bad taste it takes to like this season.
And what about the zombie-like stroke of Clark when the power goes off? And the "We are dead" written on the whiteboard? And Annie's video didn't even match the flashback of her death? aaargghh I feel dirty for having watched this all the way through.
Thanks for speaking truth on this. Every other review is just glowing (looking at you Rolling Stone), and I feel like I'm in a bizarro world reading this stuff. The major fan consensus has been this season was terrible, yet most critics don't want to seem to even acknowledge that.
Man, this show spent so much time spinning tire for 5 episodes that by the 6th you knew the ride wasn't going anywhere. The biggest burning question of the entire series is how the group of men came to be frozen in that state of horror. The writers MADE that the central story. Nope, the show runners couldn't even be bothered with it because they couldn't write anything effective as an answer. It's the equivalent of when you go to see a band play live and the singer keeps holding out the mic for the audience to sing the song for them. "Just use your imagination" the show Creator tells us in a recent interview about all of the loose ends.
It was ghost. I was actually into it because I expected a payoff for the season 1 Easter eggs, but by six, I was like fuck, they got a lot of ground to cover and not much time.
I just finished reading the wikipedia at least I knew not to waste my time with this crap. I recommend waiting for wikipedia before paying or watching something.
"I see dead people Theyre everywhere!" I hated this so much I can not believe this is certified "fresh" on RT...from audience to the critics Get ready for more seasons of this type of crap everyone My brain hurts after watching this finale lol
I finally got around to finishing this show tonight. Afterwards, I sifted through the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and found your honest commentary. Yours was one of the rare few that actually gave warning about this grasshopper patty masquerading as Wagyu. I knew this show was headed off a cliff when, during the same episode, both its female protagonists refused to allow their booty calls to pull out during sex. This was “girl power” transmogrified into something sinister-and a metaphor for the entire season. Here I lay at journey's end, and I feel wholly violated.
“Time is a flat circle” was a dumb redundancy in season 1, too. If it’s not flat, it’s not a circle. Unless it’s a lumpy circle? Then, also, not a circle. Correct me if I’m wrong, mathematicians.
In the animation about the rabbit "Zootopia" there was a better intrigue, the very fact that they entered a cave without equipment, maps, any experience, a local activist instead of recording and taking photos starts destroying the laboratory, they are in a base where there are several cars instead of getting into one and turn on the heating, they light a fire XD, the fact that several scientists from different countries died in mysterious circumstances and no embassy is demanding explanations about what happened to their citizens. If they were poisoned by one or two cleaning ladies and that somehow made them go crazy, but no the whole gang of clining ladies with the truck did it and no one in the entire group had any remorse, no one said anything to anyone, absurdity follows absurdity in this series and this glorification of the suicide of a person with mental problems at the end...
Is this how Jodie Foster wants to cap her career? She went from The Silence of the Lambs to The Violence of the Clams. When she said in Ep.1 "It's a shitbowl." Thst was our warning.
I cannot believe how bad this season was. And we didn’t even get a shootout: True Detective always had iconic shootout scenes. Even season 2, with its faults, at least had a nice shootout. You would think with all the references and nods to season 1 they would have a shootout. Wouldn’t make the season good, but it would have been nice to have
Men this season sucked. 1 - There is no payoff if they barley investigated. 2 - The characters are way too unlikable 3 - Even outside the job, they're lifes isn't interesting 4 - The message is pretty much weak by the execution 5 - The links to the first season was just fan service 6 - I was bored in every single episode past the first one 7 - The scientists mystery sound so cool.. no payoff 8 - Way too super natural at the wrong places 9 - Weak writing
She wraps the body in a plastic bag but has to let the air out of his lungs. I'll let you guess what would be more buoyant. Air in a plastic sac or air from lungs.
I'll spare the obvious complains and plot holes and cheap mystery we all noticed, the thing I find the most HILARIOUS is in an attempt to write strong female lead characters, they just wrote 2 BROS and just put two women to play them, seemed so unreal on moments and at times it struck me as a parody SNL sketch in the way they behaved and talked and walked and presented themselves, but it was not, it was a serious attempt to make strong female leading characters by depriving them from all things feminine and I find that so ironic LOL
Dude you are one of the few critics who is actually saying what most fans of prior seasons are saying. How any critic could say this was great defies all rationality but I guess we should be used to it if painfully mediocre things like The Last Jedi can get glowing praise in spite of intense fan backlash.
@@theushersdenI saw that and it’s ridiculous. But anyone even writing an article like “all questions are answered” are complete frauds. Other than the Alaska setting there was nothing remotely interesting about this show, barely any mystery and more of these characters moping about their personal problems.
Except the intense backlash to The Last Jedi was literally proven with broken down stats that the movie was targeted by Alt-right incels and Disney was stupid enough to listen to them and made TROS in response. The worst movie in the entire SW franchise.
@@GunFightForAPuppycompletely disagree with you and it’s the same excuse people use for Night Country. In Last Jedi if you replace Laura Dern’s character with a man or Rose with an attractive white woman but both characters take exactly the same actions, the movie would still be terrible because the writing was terrible. Yes there are losers who focus on things like gender or race to a toxic degree but they do not represent the majority of the people who have real issues with the storytelling.
Maybe this season would have more episodes. But I believe the director was arrested before doing more. I'm sure this kind of crap is a crime somewhere.
At least the show is done, that's somewhat a positive. I hope you feel better soon! It's really hard trying to understand the creative process behind a show like this. If I had to guess, Issa López wanted to make something more like Tigers Are Not Afraid again and had no real interest in True Detective.
Giving someone whose average IMDb score is like 6.1 to write and direct a whole season of such a big tv show was just idiotic. I cannot think of a better word, truly.
The showrunner even admitted in an interview that it's "up to the viewer to make their own conclusions about the severed tongue being there". So there ya go. The show was just random red herrings with two lead cops that get outsmarted by a rookie dude that had access to Google.
Somewhere in HBO office....hey I have an idea of a story of vigilante lady cult... someone else shouting from bathroom "let's add some supernatural twist to it"... another one while making coffee"hey let's add science fiction twist to it". HBO CEO you only get 6 episodes to finish it.
Too many things without an explanation. 1- Rose seems to know very well how to cover up a dead body..why? How? 2- what happened to navarro in her life?..what aabout her mother? 3- what happened to thw guy with the rifle?..did he go on vacation? 4- Prior is a character that should have been developed more. He was interesting. I mean he just killed his father and cleaned up his blood. 5- scientist killed, navarro shot the criminal, prior killed his father..ok murder is accepted..no needs of detectives in this country. 5- random references to season 1 without any meaning. ( Producer clearly did not know anything about true detective) 6 - the video of anne k is different from the story told by Clarck. 7 - all women went to tsalal to kill the scientists with a huge truck..no one spotted anything weird that night?. 8 - Navarro and Denver made a fire at tsalal site in the last episode while the came back in town with a tsalal car. No heating system available?. 9- Denver's son died in an accident. what happened that day?. Finally, Her son appearance seems from Alaska. Just an impression?. 10 - Only women involved in the scientists massacre? Why? No explanation. Etc... Ok I stop here for now but I have other points to raise. This season was a tv show but has nothing to do with true detective..i mean..murder is accepted in Alaska..who needs police in there. 0:08
1-Rose is also a master Jedi 2-Navarro is too tough to have a normal life and instead has became Chuck Norris 7- no cameras on either, anywhere, in a top secret lab with a scooby-doo secret passage 8- hanger had several vehicles, gassed up, with heaters. Tools of the patriarchy; boycott
Gonzalo, you should see the comments sections in groups that are about this series, people are absolutely gushing over this shit like it’s Citizen Kane. Mind boggling.
I couldn't believe they hand-waved away the big mystery about how the scientists ultimately died as "ghosts. magic. maybe. you decide". Maybe it was a fucking slab avalanche. Maybe Otis was caught in a flash slab avalanche and just doesn't remember. And then "Closed" was the only closure we got on the whole mine thread. No more screen time for the cop boss or the mine boss. What a shit bowl.
I fully expect that on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB there will be something like 50 percent difference between the audience score and the critic score. In response to this, people who liked the show will say it's because alt-right types review-bombed the websites. That's not what's going on. What's going on is that professional critics have an increasingly homogeneous ideological makeup that leads to shows like this getting favorable reviews even when they're incredibly flawed if not downright terrible. I fully expect this guy to be accused of sexism and racism and whatever else because he's a white man giving a negative review to a show that centers women of color, but the fact of the matter is this season sucked.
I'm already seeing it (predictably) being said: that the only people who don't like this show are alt-right males who feat strong women 😂 Many of my favorite performances are from female leads (and supporting roles for that matter. I came into this excited because of Jodie Foster. I didn't like it because it sucked. It shoehorned in bad season 1 easter eggs, had plot holes everywhere, poor dialogue, and it was corny. So far the critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes is 92% 😂😂 NINETY-TWO percent!!! The audience rating is a more sane 61%, but even then that's too high IMO. This season was a 3/10 for me.
I can’t forgive that after the generator went out they decided to make a fire instead of just getting in the car to get warm and even after Danvers fell through the ice they still refused to get in the car to stay warm until the storm passed. Just freaking dumb. Also enough with the spirals…my god.
I was let down. The show built up its super natural element and it all of a sudden changes lanes into reverse the final episode. What's up with all the Caribou jumping off a cliff at the very start? Very random, I guess that's normal...What about the scientists lodged into ice? I guess nature did that.. It was like the show changed it's writers, they must have hired the ole G.O.T writers that botched the last few seasons
I almost forgot about the caribou. I'm guessing Issa Lopez is hoping people forgot about that part like me 😂 Hell, Issa Lopez herself probably forgot about that part.
Theyre looking for clarke who was mysteriously missing from the science place for half the series and they never once thought to check the obvious hatch in the science place
Same. I was hoping by way of miracle that they could against all odds wrap it up decently. But instead, it was arguably the corniest, most inept ending to a season that I have ever seen. Any project Issa Lopez is a part of going forward, I'll steer well clear of.
The real TRUE DETECTIVES of this season, were the group of indigenous women who crack the case offscreen in (what it seems) less time than the main protagonists.
This was a horrible finale to a tepid series. The magic Native American and “ancestors give me strength” trope was extremely tiring. That plus the girl power, and that every white man in the show is abusive / dies. To quote Nic Pizzolatto - “ha ha, stupid”.
There are a number of things that bother me about this season. Besides Reis' horrible acting and inability to cover up her Boston accent, it's that there is very little actual detective work being done. It's basically asking Pryor to look something up or figure out the cell password while the leads sneak off to get laid. Where's the actual detective work?
What you are referring to as "girl power" is not just some loose concept that writers threw into the mix but, if you look carefully, it is the cornerstone of writing for this whole season. I dare anyone to find one masculine male character in the whole story. Qavvik seems like a nice guy but he is sexually dominated by Navarro and in the end means little to her and contributes even less to the story. Young Prior is also a nice kid and a hardworking cop but his wife treats him as a piece of shit because he is trying to do his work. In fact Danvers and Navarro also treat him like shit as well. Hank Prior is a corrupted cop who of course gets in the end what he deserved. Not to mention of course all the scientists at the Tsalal station because they are the ultimate assholes and murderers, as it turns out in the end. Not a single woman scientists among them because, well, probably the patriarchy did not allow women to study biology, geology or biochemistry (interestingly those being typically scientific fields with higher ratio of women presence). Every other male character in the show is portrayed as either a brute, halfwit or morally questionable individual whenever that's a mine worker who sold camper to Clark, antiriot cop who hits Leah, desk guy at the Lighthouse who let Julia out or Captain Connelly who is interested more in bureaucracy than finding out the truth. So we have this ensemble of emasculated male characters who are stirring the pot in an otherwise well oiled, properly functioning and almost idyllic world of strong, independent women. And yes, Denvers and Navarro are not likable characters but we are being told this is due to their respective traumas and it's not the hate towards the world but rather a coping mechanism and that makes their characters even stronger because they power through those struggles. All the Inuit women are presented as pure and righteous even if they hate their husband for no reason (Kayla), beat the shit out of civilians for no reason while on police duty (Navarro) or participate in mob justice and kill several men. They are still saints and their actions are justified because they are merely trying to fix the hell of a world that men created for them. In all fairness, season 1 of True Detective has an endless list of morally ambiguous or straight up corrupted characters but it is simply a story about flawed men. They are not being pitched against an army of pure-hearted women with emphasis on how much better the world would be without those men.
@@HOFFAMVA no, it did not. It's just my way of engaging in a meaningful discussion instead of calling something or someone "sexist" without backing it with facts. Crazy, I know.
Could’ve skipped episodes 2-5 and you’d miss nothing. There was zero detective work this whole season. The personal lives were so boring. Why does it take the LAST episode for Danvers to finally open up about her kid dying? It’s too late for me to care about her character when all she did was walk around and curse every other sentence and treat Prior like shit every 15 minutes. I don’t understand how this show got to air. So poorly written. If it weren’t for the Alaskan setting this show would have nothing going for it.
The research was about DNA in permafrost not about pollution. The pollution just helped get through the permafrost. I would assume most of the papers in that laboratory were about the actual thing they were researching and not about the super secret pollution they were keeping quiet about. So how did Annie just happen to find a paper about the pollution that made her go so crazy to destroy the laboratory.
You could construct a dissertation on how and why this season is so bad. Some of it, however, is quite disturbing. Entertainment for a dumber authoritarian future. How have we come this far in the years since Season 1?
I cannot recall watching a TV show finale so incompetent, so badly written, so appallingly stupid. This thing sucked so bad it sucked the joy out of me. This shitbowl made me angry and depressed the whole day
So many unresolved plot threads and/or plot holes. The only one they directly address is the missing tongue....which doesnt end up feeling like any mystery. It just feels like the writers needed that tongue to establish some sort of reason for the characters to link the two cases. Maybe it's some sort of Alan Wake-inspired Writer Ex Machina. The whole time, we've been watching a story within a story 😱.
It was the most well made bad show I’ve seen in a while. It kept me entertained up until episode 6 where it completely falls apart. Why did the scientist turn into murdering psychopaths? How the hell did the one scientist survive overnight naked in a snow storm + another day or more submerged in snow? When the surviving scientist wakes up from the coma, what’s up with all the “she’s awake” nonsense when all he had to say was “it was the cleaning ladies”? Why did the cleaning ladies murder every single scientist in such a horrific manner? For all they knew, one guy could’ve been responsible. I physically cringed at the “Time is a flat circle” line. It doesn’t work coming from anyone other than Rust Cohle. It’s also a bit of meme at this point.
Perfect review. The crazy part is out of all these things you mentioned there’s ever more super unlikely things that shouldn’t have happened like it did. Like why in the fucking world would a bunch of scientist hear a commotion in the ice cave and see a guy murdering a girl then just join in and start helping murder her 😂 in what world does a scientist have the guts to to do that let alone all of them at the same time like cmon.
When it's as cold outside your house as it is in Alaska during a winter blizzard, you don't stand in your open doorway having a conversation letting all the warmth from your home out into the universe. It's comical.
Ha! They did that practically the entire season! I'm in NY, it's cold & I notice that shit. 😂 Some scenes I was waiting w/ baited breath for someone to just simply close the godamn door. Some scenes they didn't even bother closing it. Unbelievable
8:20 I think the urgency was because they thought the storm would deter the mine from interfering. So they get to Tsalal and Danvers is complaining they can't drive anywhere or have cell coverage because of the storm. But the original plan apparently was that they were going to ride out the storm in an ICE CAVE.
“Well it’s official: murder is now legal in the state of Alaska.”
I said the exact same thing on Twitter two hours ago...
Dirty cops!
Only if the victims are men. Otherwise the pubishment is death without due process.
In the fictional world of story telling, it's also legal on the Orient Express
Wasn’t it always?
HBO owes me money. And an apology. Wtf was that.
I feel disappointed like when I watched Halloween ends!! I want a refund for pain suffering and lost time lol.
That was what you get when DEI runs a production.
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You didn't like, "True Detective, Red Herring Country! " 😂
@@autk True Defective.
Most poorly utilized polar bear since Lost
what you want man, volibear warstomping the police trucks? wtf
Dont forget the zombie polar from GoT... 😂
@@NeeNee_B. do you know what was ironic about that scene/who delivered the killing blow to the beast?
I honestly thought it was the exact same red-herring polar bear from Lost as soon as I saw it; knew it was doomed lol
and they had the audacity to use a "hatch" Im done!!
If time is a flat circle does it mean I’ll eventually get my 6 hours back?
No, it means you will watch the entire season over and over, and then comment on this video, and then inspire me to leave this comment, in an infinite loop.
Also, I think the season was 6.5 hours if you watched the whole thing. In Carcosa.
I don't even want my 6.5 hours back, I wanna walk out on ice 😭😭😭
Lol NO, it means you get to watch similar crap and waste same amount of time at some point in the future. Because this is the new standard for television and movie writing. Apparently.
No. You will be forced to watch this shit series forever.
@@ayandey137It's cool. The Coast Guard will find your body within 15 minutes.
A group of guys see their co worker killing a girl and then they all join in? WTF. The wristing on this show is unbelievable
He loves her but watches and finishes it off then girl power gets their revenge. Wow.
Laughable. It just shows the writer has a rudimentary thinking of genders. Men are blood thirsty savages and we’ll randomly join in a stabbing a random lady?? Oh, here comes the hero badass cleaning lady squad!!?! And they didn’t kill the scientists, the “ice” did! I’m so sick of seeing this kind of garbage in every other tv show. Maybe if this was cleverly written I’d feel different but it’s so lazy, so unbelievably I just laughed when they were killing Annie, and when all the cleaning ladies rounded up the men and killed them too. The whole conclusion was hilarious. I haven’t laughed at a single episode of television like this in ages honestly
It’s Issa Lopez’s unconscious bias toward white people. In her warped brain, white men are evil and she literally believed this was character consistency without a shred of evidence.
@@anitaknight3915 Well he probably couldn't see since the power went off..........even though the lights were still on.
@@robrick9361Lol
Mass murder is not just OK, but something to be celebrated when committed by vigilante native women custodial staff!
Now it's easy to see why the writing of the show never really cared about 6 dead scientists. When Issa Lopez wrote it she already knew they were killers and deserving of retribution. But she neglected to consider that the audience wouldn't be clued onto their guilt until the finale, so some sort of care and considerable investigation of their murder is necessary to tell a good story.
So many plot holes and conveniences it's not worth going through them all. Easter eggs just for the sake of pretending to connect Night Country to the True Detective series.
That’s such a great point about Issa neglecting to consider that we wouldn’t know that they’re the bad guys until the end.
And there is no employee turnover at this ice station prison? After the Annie incident, no scientists left the crime scene job?😂 And if a new scientist arrives to join the team, does he/she deserve to die by association?😊
@@paulsommerhalder9049nope, none of them, not one, left the station after a girl got murdered right in front of them. Bc Issa Lopez wrote that the microbes they were trying to extract were going to change the world or some dumb shit like that.
@@paulsommerhalder9049 Saint Annie of Kwuktuk or whatever her name is, was no better than those little shit heels who run around today destroying the art and accomplishments of far better men. Another useless activist who purportedly loves mankind but hates men.
Lets identify as women and kidnap the writers and leave them out on the ice , fold their clothes and let the spirit decide if they would return or not
Danvers and Navarro building a fire in the science station garage when the cars were right there with heat was baffling. We see them drive the Tsalal SUV after the storm.
AND she walks right by the full tanks of generator fuel near the door.
And when they arrived at the killer women compound, they had perfectly dry clothing...fresh and perfect....
@@paulsommerhalder9049probably because they changed clothes and cleaned up
Came to say this. Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed.
"Get in a vehicle and turn on the heat"
No that won't serve our crappy narrative 😂
There were so many elements that were so outrageous, you cant even fathom the stupidity-
1. They are in an insulated building during a blizzard, and somehow they are at danger of freezing within hours or minutes when the entire facility was heated before this moment, and there are rooms EVERYWHERE that remained closed.
2. They are freezing and shivering while they are indoors away from the wind, in appropriately warm winter clothes which they used to travel the unheated caves perfectly comfortably, and under tons of blankets.
3. Somehow this deadly cold that was in danger of freezing them to death while indoors and next to a fire, doesnt kill the underweight senior citizen lady that falls into ice cold water, soaks her clothes through, and remains that way for the 30+ minutes it would take her partner to get her back inside, back to the fire, stripped, and re-bundled.
4. They are teeth chatteringly freezing while indoors and next to a damn bonfire. Being in a extremely cold place doesnt magically make fire less hot. Being next to a fire would keep you perfectly comfortable.
5. They start a fire instead of sticking together and going into a car and turning the heat on. A thing which we know they can do, because they DROVE ONE TO THE CLEANING LADY CULPRITS IMMEDIATELY AFTER.
6. Danvers is locked in a plexiglass room, and instead of shooting the plexi, which we know is not bulletproof seeing as her tiny ass breaks it with a little metal rod.
7.Navarro is completely brained by a fire extinguisher, dropped 15 feet onto her face, and is still capable of recovering, overpowering, and beating unconscious her male assailant.
8. They never explain the burned corneas / retinas
There are so many more, but this show left me yelling at the screen more than any other. The random revelation that the cleaning ladies did it made no sense, and the fact that these CLEANING LADIES somehow knew ALL the tsalal men killed Annie, AND were okay with an octuple homocide, AND had noone escape, fight back, question them, etc. is beyond ridiculous to the point where i was legitimately laughing hysterically during the whole scene.
-Who peels an orange like that? Oh, someone trying to work one last spiral into the show.
-Ghosts are real, and they're PG13 horror cliches. Cool.
-Blair is somewhere between 16 and 70 years old.
-Peter's wife and Danvers' daughter stopped being completely terrible because...the season was over? What an arc!
That last point made me laugh out loud. Great observation.
"The editor's notes said we needed more character development for Kayla and Leah so we added character development. What more do ya'll want from us?!"
-The writers probably.
i thought she was trying to make a garnish for a drink but the shows ending was still terrible
My mum does. But whatever. You dudes are right, everyone else is wrong. Let's all freeze.
Wait, who is Blair?
This season was unforgivably bad. It had so much going for it on paper I will forever wonder what it could have been in the hands of a good writer.
Ironically for a show written by a woman and with two female leads, the most competent and likeable character was Peter.
Peter was the most likeable character and appeared to be the only one finding leads to solve investigation. So sad he has to live with the traumatizing aftermath of cleaning up fathers death. The writer director did a terrible job with this season.
TeamPeterPrior❤
Completely agree, he was the only one actually doing some form of legitimate investigation the whole time!
I wonder if the writer actually understood this. Or if she actually believed that all these psychopaths were heroes.
That on top of him looking like a dream, wow
I'm glad I streamed this instead of watching it live. When he busted out the "time is a flat circle" line, I had to pause it and walk around for 5 minutes to process the stupidity.
(I repeated the same process shortly after the Cleaning Lady Mafia showed up.)
cleaning lady mafia was actually comical.
with the Yoko Ono screams as a soundtrack
I streamed it so I could fast forward the dead parts. That left me with about 20 minutes that felt like 3 hours.
It's Mr. Scratch
Same here. I really felt sick to my stomach… my wife looked at me with the „Are you OK?” look on her face
WAIT, i just realized....in the flashback to murdering annie k....they don't show her filming the selfie video of the murder that they later watch.
Also the lights were still on even though Danvers said they went off.
And in the flashback Clarke steps on and breaks her phone 😂 like what the fuck issa Lopez was this her first time writing a script and such?
That is so bad I didn’t even think of that!!!! 91%rotten tomato review with that big a fucking plot hole
@@noahswiss1997 also, they never checked to see if the video was geo-tagged by the phone. that could have lead them to the exact spot it was filmed. even without the geo tag, they could have posted the video on 4 chan and those guys would have had the location figured out in a few days.
How would the cleaning ladies know that all the scientists killed Annie? They might know that one did, but all of them? So infuriating.
They saw a vision in a spray of Lemon Pledge.
GIRL POWER 😁
Echo is required watching to understand that. But it’s because Native American women are aliens from outer space.
"We are shoving them out on the ice naked but if they are innocent the Great Spirit will save them."
They saw a specialized drill bit and thought, "Eek gad! By George, could this be the murder weapon??"
At least the ending is consistent with the running theme of the show:
'Women...It's OK when we do it.'
Yes, women can be as sociopathic as any man....and don't you forget it. We are the woke Hollywood women...hear us roar...
😂😂😂😂
If this is the state of mind of contemporary women, it’s better we don’t propagate any further.
@@michaelsegriff3362The honorable thing for our species would be to deny our genetic coding. Walk hand-in-hand to extinction.
You've become the sort of man that season one examined and then attacked and dismantled.
The whole punch a hole in the ice which then magically is a larger opening into a perfectly setup walkway in caves, magic drops into exactly the right area, magically teleporting again to the station, why in a secure station would they need to have a secret trap door? Why did danvers have to use a pole to break the glass when she had a gun? Why did they torture Clark instantly? When he hit Navarro' with that fire extinguisher i thought..... Well she's dead from that... Nope, not even knocked out, and when we cut back she's already overpowered him and beating him senseless?? Bad shit....
They couldn’t allow Danvers to “save” Navarro. Navarro aka Girlboss can take care of herself, don’t you know?
her floofy hair saved her
@@rebotsomat 😂😂👍🏻👍🏻
when the fan theories are better than the actual ending
The fans are smart and they care. More than I can say about anyone associated with the production of this crap.
Ahhhhh of course it was the Inuit Cleaning Lady Mafia……😂
Ah yes the infamous ICLM
The chances of a large group of Inuits hanging out in one desolate town in Alaska with no husbands is astronomically low. Like .0000000234 low.
Inupiak! If there's one thing we learned it's there's another tribe in Alaska and that's what this season was all about 😂
This is a clear case of hiring someone based gender/ideology instead of skill. I’m guessing the show-runner ticks a few other ESG/DEI boxes as well.
Of course, it's WBD policy. DEI Global Initiative touches all their content.
I find your use of the term "instead" to be aggressive and patriarchal.
@@wiseauserious8750I find your comment to be quite stupid
And so, the battered dude that was hiding in the station and wandering the ice caves for no reason... took the time to put 'Twist and Shout' back on a loop? Damn... 😂
LMAO!!!🤣😂
🤣🤣🤣🤦🤦🤦
That was by the ghosts that aren't really a part of this but sometimes are.
A literal scooby doo trap door
Lmao that was the worst writing I’ve seen from a major production
Pathetic.
Then he comes out another hidden door for the fire extinguisher attack. Just babytown hijinks shit.
I've seen better, more satisfying plot development watching Scooby-Doo than this dreck.
Here’s what this show told me…
Women are powerful, smart, and badass.
Men are weak and evil except for the one young lad that is learning at the foot of the wise, older woman…and doing what he’s told.
This entire show was a giant clickbait…”Spirals, Tuttles, and Rust’s dad, oh my!”
I dont think ive ever seen a show where every single character is so unlikeable.
A show of constant pointless red herrings, plot going no where, all male characters are one dimensional emotional whimps, all female characters are cold hearted hyper ”masculin” sociopaths, and constant, and I mean constant cursing and blasphemy. Insuffereable.
Going into tonight I expected it to be terrible, but that was worse than I even thought possible.
EXACTLY
I was hoping by miracle that the finale could redeem this season somewhat and improve it from bad to less than bad.
Instead, it made it exponentially worse. That ending was atrocious.
A Forbes reviewer was trying to warn viewers off the show after pre-screening the season.
@@wheezvonklaw284 I wonder who that could have been...😂
What an absolute dumpster fire of an ending. I wish I could've reinvested the 8 or so hours of my life I spent watching this pile of shit of a season in something more productive like watching paint dry.
This disappointment and garbage fire of trash writing makes me want to binge the masterpiece of season 1 again lol.
And you paid for that shit.
I gave up after the first 2 episodes. I could see exactly what Issa Lopez was doing, the symptoms were all there ceaselessly, and just the way she responded to the legitimate criticism of this dumpster fire only further confirmed I was right. Watched Erik's reviews, and that's all. His takes on this horrendous unwatchable show was all I got out of it...and was far more enjoyable!
I enjoy watching dog shit shows evry now and then. Makes you appreciate the good ones that much more.
90% of what was good about this season was written in our minds when we were trying to solve the mystery ourselves. The actual writing is really abysmal.
The most bonkers thing to me in this ep was when the two leading investigators of the Tsalal men's deaths almost killed the only witness(after beating him and torturing him) without even asking him about their fate. The main investigation of the entire tv show!
I must've binge watched the first season at least 5 times. I've not re-watched seasons 2 or 3 even once. I think season 4 goes in the never gonna watch again category.
I thought the third season was great. I dunno why people had a problem with it.
We can't forget the fourth season. HBO needs to pay the price for using our love for the first season to sell us this horrible season.
This one was such sh** I fast forwarded through most of it. Nothing of value was missed.
Season 2 would have been okay without so many plotlines. Otherwise it wasn't so bad. Season 3 was actually really good. Season 1 is lightning in a bottle, almost perfect in every way. Those were the only true True Detective seasons. This train wreck doesn't even come close to season 2 and shouldn't be included in the TS franchise in my opinion.
Same here. I’ve watched season one at least 4 times start to finish. Couldn’t get through season two and eventually finished 3. This one was honestly the worst writing I’ve ever seen in any series of this budget. A true pile of dog shit.
The writers of Game of Thrones season 8, LOVED this show. They no longer hold the record for the worst writers on planet earth.
What are they currently doing?
James Gunn said The Flash was the best super hero movie he’s ever seen. People are full of shit.
@@michaelsegriff3362 He could be taking a crap and it would still be better and more productive than writing this show.
Nah, theyre still the worst. At least the Night Country writers didnt have amazing books to draw from. Theres no excuse for DnD lol
@@NeeNee_B. To be fair, they had gone past the books in the final season. The plot itself wasn't that bad. Having Daenerys become the villain could have been a good story arch for her. But they just handled it so poorly it ruined her as a character.
are we really supposed to believe these out of the way ice caves are right under the research station and no one realized this?
You'll believe it and you'll goddamn like it!
This was beyond laughable. The woman cops also felt zero need to bring ropes or survival gear when knowingly entering ice caves. Feels like the dam burst on holding back the crappy writing until the very last episode. Feels to me like the writer and director are completely clueless about the real world . My favorite is the, “ice science requires massive pollution to extract biologicals”. What a contrived turd
@@captaincrunch1707😂 Yeah...that was soooooo bad.
2 Questions:
Did ChatGPT write the finale?
How much did HBO pay other critics to say it was a “return to form”?
Good questions.
@@ErikKain you and I will have this conversation again 😂 forever and ever
@@nastyladd time is a bumpy oval!
Last thing…do you remember that time Danvers used a pipe to break the glass wall when she literally had a gun?
@@nastyladdtbf, shooting bullet proof (?) glass in a small enclosure would have been incredibly dumber than any other writing mistake they made this season.
I never thought I'd see something worse than The Rings of Power, but Night Country is worse by several degrees of magnitude.
Fear Walking Dead is still country miles worse than both those shows combined though.
Gotta love how not one of the men tried to fight back once they were all let out of the semi truck. They were told to take off their clothes in the freezing cold and not one of them had any survival instincts.
This show was written by someone who sucks at writing and being a human being with normal human instincts.
Forreals 1/6 guys for sure not going out like that. Naked and in the Blizzard?
Fuck that kill me with my cloths on, come at me 😂
Maybe because all the wonen had guns
@@blessings4eva863 They had hunting rifles and were at extremely close range. One of the women (if not more) had a scoped bolt action rifle. While grouped up, I’m taking my chances, especially when complying means death anyways.
@@yakhooves nah he or she was correctly appointed........to bury True Detective for good lol
Knew it was a wrap after the Ghost of Travis did that stupid dance before pointing to the bodies
Didn’t you know, everyone in north Alaska is magical?
lol 😂
Yeah that dance was so stupid 😂😂😂
Where are the bodies Travis?
I could tell you Rose, but I’d rather show you through the power of interpretive dance.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 🤣🤣🤣 I'm dead
Everyone can hate on seasons 2-3 all they want but both blew season 4 away. The whole premise of it was cheesy with the whole “Night Country” thing. Seems this is going to be a sad end to the show and will probably taint the whole True Detective franchise. We all just have to accept that season 1 was some of the best writing and acting of all time and can never be emulated.
Season 2 and 3 were masterpieces compared to this crap. I'm going to have remember all the reviewers who praised this crap so I know in the future never to listen to them again.
This whole season was basically strong lesbians unite in Alaska with bad writing and unbelievable plot lines.
This season has a rotten tomatoes fresh rating of 92 percent from the "critics." NINETY-TWO!!!!
🤣🤣🤣 That is mind boggling. Wow. Just wow.
@@nickreynolds8391 Aye, it is. I think it's safe to say at this point looking at reviews - at least generally speaking - is useless. Because way too many of them are enthralled by absolute garbage.
The biggest twist was that feminism was the killer…and the force driving the creative decisions of the show instead of logic and entertainment
This show has all the drama and nuance of a Steven Seagal movie.
And somehow the "critics" are giving it a 92% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes 😂😂😂
NINETY-TWO percent!!!
That is utterly mind boggling.
When the old cop (I don't even remember her name) was peeling an orange with a knife I knew she wasn't capable of solving a crime.
That’s Sargent Jodie Foster.
I don’t know how you could forget either of their names when half the dialogue is yelling “Navarro!” and “Danvers!” over and over again.
Jodie Foster. Or Liz. Should have peeled an onion.
@@twerkfromhome All 95 lbs of totally believable, totally competent, False Detective.
But she cursed 72 times this one episode. Why don’t you like her yet? Isn’t she so down to earth and relatable yet?
The scene of the janitors kidnapping the scientists was one of the most bizarre things ever made
True Detective : The Cleaning Crew
Time is a flat sponge, it sucks up metaphors from better seasons and turns them into something smelly.
The spiral represents dirty water going down the drain after a job well done.
The tongue symbolizes taste, as in the bad taste it takes to like this season.
'I heard you clean houses'
episode 1 - there's a cover up here, let's investigate this shit.
episode 6 - let's cover up this shit and leave
And what about the zombie-like stroke of Clark when the power goes off? And the "We are dead" written on the whiteboard? And Annie's video didn't even match the flashback of her death? aaargghh I feel dirty for having watched this all the way through.
Gotta give you credits for this one. Absolutely shocked by how complacent and delusional some reviews are...
Money talks
It has a 92% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes by the "critics" 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
I have no words
Girl power and pretend Native American mysticism. Don't you dare give a bad review.
Thanks for speaking truth on this. Every other review is just glowing (looking at you Rolling Stone), and I feel like I'm in a bizarro world reading this stuff. The major fan consensus has been this season was terrible, yet most critics don't want to seem to even acknowledge that.
It boggles the mind.
It has a 92% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes 😂😂😂
NINETY-TWO!!!
"When you play the House of Thrones you either Game, or you Dragons."
*Stares directly into camera*
Man, this show spent so much time spinning tire for 5 episodes that by the 6th you knew the ride wasn't going anywhere.
The biggest burning question of the entire series is how the group of men came to be frozen in that state of horror. The writers MADE that the central story.
Nope, the show runners couldn't even be bothered with it because they couldn't write anything effective as an answer. It's the equivalent of when you go to see a band play live and the singer keeps holding out the mic for the audience to sing the song for them.
"Just use your imagination" the show Creator tells us in a recent interview about all of the loose ends.
It was ghost. I was actually into it because I expected a payoff for the season 1 Easter eggs, but by six, I was like fuck, they got a lot of ground to cover and not much time.
it was the cleaning ladies who dunnit
Evil male scientists vs Hero cleaning ladies!
Issa Lopez is from Mexico. That sums it up.
@@SuperEgo19 I hope Family Guy parodies this and Consuela is the maid who solves it.
😂😂😂
@@SuperEgo19omfg that's so utterly racist, and correct
Just finished it and wth was that dude...lol
I just finished reading the wikipedia at least I knew not to waste my time with this crap. I recommend waiting for wikipedia before paying or watching something.
"I see dead people
Theyre everywhere!"
I hated this so much
I can not believe this is certified "fresh" on RT...from audience to the critics
Get ready for more seasons of this type of crap everyone
My brain hurts after watching this finale lol
I completely missed that one. They ripped off Haley Joel too? Dammit! These people must be stopped!
The audience score has been steadily declining.
it hurts because time is an uneven square
Geology teacher whips out the ice caves map…never goes, “Oh hey, the caves overlap the lab…”
😂😂😂
Dude it's so dumb. This season was soooooo bad.
There are zero structural concerns when building a multimillion dollar lab on top of an unstable cave system.
I finally got around to finishing this show tonight. Afterwards, I sifted through the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and found your honest commentary. Yours was one of the rare few that actually gave warning about this grasshopper patty masquerading as Wagyu. I knew this show was headed off a cliff when, during the same episode, both its female protagonists refused to allow their booty calls to pull out during sex. This was “girl power” transmogrified into something sinister-and a metaphor for the entire season. Here I lay at journey's end, and I feel wholly violated.
“Time is a flat circle” was a dumb redundancy in season 1, too. If it’s not flat, it’s not a circle. Unless it’s a lumpy circle? Then, also, not a circle. Correct me if I’m wrong, mathematicians.
Season 4 makes Season 2 look like CITIZEN KANE
Season 4 makes the turd I dropped this morning look like CITIZEN KANE.
Favorite line from the show is when the hunters are fighting in the hospital:
"WHO ARE YOU CALLING A REDNECK!?"🤣
In the animation about the rabbit "Zootopia" there was a better intrigue, the very fact that they entered a cave without equipment, maps, any experience, a local activist instead of recording and taking photos starts destroying the laboratory, they are in a base where there are several cars instead of getting into one and turn on the heating, they light a fire XD, the fact that several scientists from different countries died in mysterious circumstances and no embassy is demanding explanations about what happened to their citizens. If they were poisoned by one or two cleaning ladies and that somehow made them go crazy, but no the whole gang of clining ladies with the truck did it and no one in the entire group had any remorse, no one said anything to anyone, absurdity follows absurdity in this series and this glorification of the suicide of a person with mental problems at the end...
And not a single woman-scientist in the research station? of course not - they all were meant to serve the script as male-murderers
"we're in the night country now" 😂😂😂😂
Yeah, whatevs. 😂
That was supposed to be profound and chilling. Instead, it plopped like a wet fart.
Is this how Jodie Foster wants to cap her career?
She went from The Silence of the Lambs to The Violence of the Clams.
When she said in Ep.1 "It's a shitbowl." Thst was our warning.
Hahahaahaha... Oh god, violence of the clams! 😂😂
That title is so apt when you think about how the tsalal guys died
I cannot believe how bad this season was. And we didn’t even get a shootout: True Detective always had iconic shootout scenes. Even season 2, with its faults, at least had a nice shootout. You would think with all the references and nods to season 1 they would have a shootout. Wouldn’t make the season good, but it would have been nice to have
This feels like it was essentially True Detective fan fiction, but written by someone who is not a fan.
Yup!!
Men this season sucked.
1 - There is no payoff if they barley investigated.
2 - The characters are way too unlikable
3 - Even outside the job, they're lifes isn't interesting
4 - The message is pretty much weak by the execution
5 - The links to the first season was just fan service
6 - I was bored in every single episode past the first one
7 - The scientists mystery sound so cool.. no payoff
8 - Way too super natural at the wrong places
9 - Weak writing
She wraps the body in a plastic bag but has to let the air out of his lungs. I'll let you guess what would be more buoyant. Air in a plastic sac or air from lungs.
Also, apparently the cleaning ladies were waaaay better detectives than these two cranky old women.
I'll spare the obvious complains and plot holes and cheap mystery we all noticed, the thing I find the most HILARIOUS is in an attempt to write strong female lead characters, they just wrote 2 BROS and just put two women to play them, seemed so unreal on moments and at times it struck me as a parody SNL sketch in the way they behaved and talked and walked and presented themselves, but it was not, it was a serious attempt to make strong female leading characters by depriving them from all things feminine and I find that so ironic LOL
because, as we all know, the only way to "soften a permafrost" is for a mining company to spit out a lot of pollution!
😂
I thought everyone knew this!
no wonder rust cohle is the way he is after living in alaska in that god awful town😂
😂
Dude you are one of the few critics who is actually saying what most fans of prior seasons are saying. How any critic could say this was great defies all rationality but I guess we should be used to it if painfully mediocre things like The Last Jedi can get glowing praise in spite of intense fan backlash.
One recent example: 'True Detective: Night Country' Just Gave the Series Its Best Finale Ever' - Alan Sepinwall, Rolling Stone
@@theushersdenI saw that and it’s ridiculous. But anyone even writing an article like “all questions are answered” are complete frauds. Other than the Alaska setting there was nothing remotely interesting about this show, barely any mystery and more of these characters moping about their personal problems.
Except the intense backlash to The Last Jedi was literally proven with broken down stats that the movie was targeted by Alt-right incels and Disney was stupid enough to listen to them and made TROS in response. The worst movie in the entire SW franchise.
TROS was doomed to fail BECAUSE of the last jedi. TLJ wrote the trilogy into a corner with nowhere to go. @@GunFightForAPuppy
@@GunFightForAPuppycompletely disagree with you and it’s the same excuse people use for Night Country. In Last Jedi if you replace Laura Dern’s character with a man or Rose with an attractive white woman but both characters take exactly the same actions, the movie would still be terrible because the writing was terrible. Yes there are losers who focus on things like gender or race to a toxic degree but they do not represent the majority of the people who have real issues with the storytelling.
It was insultingly bad. Six episodes for that?
Maybe this season would have more episodes. But I believe the director was arrested before doing more. I'm sure this kind of crap is a crime somewhere.
Issa Lopez had about 3 pages in her. She needed like 350.
At least the show is done, that's somewhat a positive. I hope you feel better soon! It's really hard trying to understand the creative process behind a show like this. If I had to guess, Issa López wanted to make something more like Tigers Are Not Afraid again and had no real interest in True Detective.
It's like an anthology set in the Tigers Are Not Afraid universe with a thin coat of blue True Detective paint.
Giving someone whose average IMDb score is like 6.1 to write and direct a whole season of such a big tv show was just idiotic. I cannot think of a better word, truly.
The showrunner even admitted in an interview that it's "up to the viewer to make their own conclusions about the severed tongue being there".
So there ya go. The show was just random red herrings with two lead cops that get outsmarted by a rookie dude that had access to Google.
"You cant just substitute easter eggs or references for actual storytelling." - Erik Kane
"Oh, if only I had been told." - Dave Filoni
Somewhere in HBO office....hey I have an idea of a story of vigilante lady cult... someone else shouting from bathroom "let's add some supernatural twist to it"... another one while making coffee"hey let's add science fiction twist to it". HBO CEO you only get 6 episodes to finish it.
Too many things without an explanation.
1- Rose seems to know very well how to cover up a dead body..why? How?
2- what happened to navarro in her life?..what aabout her mother?
3- what happened to thw guy with the rifle?..did he go on vacation?
4- Prior is a character that should have been developed more. He was interesting. I mean he just killed his father and cleaned up his blood.
5- scientist killed, navarro shot the criminal, prior killed his father..ok murder is accepted..no needs of detectives in this country.
5- random references to season 1 without any meaning. ( Producer clearly did not know anything about true detective)
6 - the video of anne k is different from the story told by Clarck.
7 - all women went to tsalal to kill the scientists with a huge truck..no one spotted anything weird that night?.
8 - Navarro and Denver made a fire at tsalal site in the last episode while the came back in town with a tsalal car. No heating system available?.
9- Denver's son died in an accident. what happened that day?. Finally, Her son appearance seems from Alaska. Just an impression?.
10 - Only women involved in the scientists massacre? Why? No explanation.
Etc...
Ok I stop here for now but I have other points to raise.
This season was a tv show but has nothing to do with true detective..i mean..murder is accepted in Alaska..who needs police in there. 0:08
1-Rose is also a master Jedi
2-Navarro is too tough to have a normal life and instead has became Chuck Norris
7- no cameras on either, anywhere, in a top secret lab with a scooby-doo secret passage
8- hanger had several vehicles, gassed up, with heaters. Tools of the patriarchy; boycott
Gonzalo, you should see the comments sections in groups that are about this series, people are absolutely gushing over this shit like it’s Citizen Kane. Mind boggling.
I couldn't believe they hand-waved away the big mystery about how the scientists ultimately died as "ghosts. magic. maybe. you decide". Maybe it was a fucking slab avalanche. Maybe Otis was caught in a flash slab avalanche and just doesn't remember.
And then "Closed" was the only closure we got on the whole mine thread. No more screen time for the cop boss or the mine boss.
What a shit bowl.
Wouldn't Danvers, who's from Alaska, know about the symbolism of the spiral? She lives in Ennis, which is near ice caves, and doesn't know that?
I fully expect that on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB there will be something like 50 percent difference between the audience score and the critic score. In response to this, people who liked the show will say it's because alt-right types review-bombed the websites. That's not what's going on. What's going on is that professional critics have an increasingly homogeneous ideological makeup that leads to shows like this getting favorable reviews even when they're incredibly flawed if not downright terrible. I fully expect this guy to be accused of sexism and racism and whatever else because he's a white man giving a negative review to a show that centers women of color, but the fact of the matter is this season sucked.
I'm already seeing it (predictably) being said: that the only people who don't like this show are alt-right males who feat strong women 😂
Many of my favorite performances are from female leads (and supporting roles for that matter. I came into this excited because of Jodie Foster. I didn't like it because it sucked. It shoehorned in bad season 1 easter eggs, had plot holes everywhere, poor dialogue, and it was corny.
So far the critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes is 92% 😂😂
NINETY-TWO percent!!!
The audience rating is a more sane 61%, but even then that's too high IMO. This season was a 3/10 for me.
It's so frustrating, because it could have been such a great show. They had the setting, they had HBO, they had the cast.
I can’t forgive that after the generator went out they decided to make a fire instead of just getting in the car to get warm and even after Danvers fell through the ice they still refused to get in the car to stay warm until the storm passed. Just freaking dumb. Also enough with the spirals…my god.
I was let down. The show built up its super natural element and it all of a sudden changes lanes into reverse the final episode. What's up with all the Caribou jumping off a cliff at the very start? Very random, I guess that's normal...What about the scientists lodged into ice? I guess nature did that.. It was like the show changed it's writers, they must have hired the ole G.O.T writers that botched the last few seasons
I almost forgot about the caribou. I'm guessing Issa Lopez is hoping people forgot about that part like me 😂
Hell, Issa Lopez herself probably forgot about that part.
Theyre looking for clarke who was mysteriously missing from the science place for half the series and they never once thought to check the obvious hatch in the science place
Ending is even dumber than i thought it would be
Same. I was hoping by way of miracle that they could against all odds wrap it up decently.
But instead, it was arguably the corniest, most inept ending to a season that I have ever seen.
Any project Issa Lopez is a part of going forward, I'll steer well clear of.
The real TRUE DETECTIVES of this season, were the group of indigenous women who crack the case offscreen in (what it seems) less time than the main protagonists.
This was a horrible finale to a tepid series. The magic Native American and “ancestors give me strength” trope was extremely tiring. That plus the girl power, and that every white man in the show is abusive / dies. To quote Nic Pizzolatto - “ha ha, stupid”.
Are we out of the night country, now?
There are a number of things that bother me about this season. Besides Reis' horrible acting and inability to cover up her Boston accent, it's that there is very little actual detective work being done. It's basically asking Pryor to look something up or figure out the cell password while the leads sneak off to get laid. Where's the actual detective work?
A season to forget as soon as possible
They don’t even crack the case in this the murderers tell them what happened where is the detective in true detective?!
it's 2024. Who could've guess a bunch of angry women killed a bunch of men?? Certainly not I.
How can the same series have both the smartest/best & dumbest/worst seasons in television history???
What you are referring to as "girl power" is not just some loose concept that writers threw into the mix but, if you look carefully, it is the cornerstone of writing for this whole season. I dare anyone to find one masculine male character in the whole story. Qavvik seems like a nice guy but he is sexually dominated by Navarro and in the end means little to her and contributes even less to the story. Young Prior is also a nice kid and a hardworking cop but his wife treats him as a piece of shit because he is trying to do his work. In fact Danvers and Navarro also treat him like shit as well. Hank Prior is a corrupted cop who of course gets in the end what he deserved. Not to mention of course all the scientists at the Tsalal station because they are the ultimate assholes and murderers, as it turns out in the end. Not a single woman scientists among them because, well, probably the patriarchy did not allow women to study biology, geology or biochemistry (interestingly those being typically scientific fields with higher ratio of women presence). Every other male character in the show is portrayed as either a brute, halfwit or morally questionable individual whenever that's a mine worker who sold camper to Clark, antiriot cop who hits Leah, desk guy at the Lighthouse who let Julia out or Captain Connelly who is interested more in bureaucracy than finding out the truth.
So we have this ensemble of emasculated male characters who are stirring the pot in an otherwise well oiled, properly functioning and almost idyllic world of strong, independent women. And yes, Denvers and Navarro are not likable characters but we are being told this is due to their respective traumas and it's not the hate towards the world but rather a coping mechanism and that makes their characters even stronger because they power through those struggles. All the Inuit women are presented as pure and righteous even if they hate their husband for no reason (Kayla), beat the shit out of civilians for no reason while on police duty (Navarro) or participate in mob justice and kill several men. They are still saints and their actions are justified because they are merely trying to fix the hell of a world that men created for them.
In all fairness, season 1 of True Detective has an endless list of morally ambiguous or straight up corrupted characters but it is simply a story about flawed men. They are not being pitched against an army of pure-hearted women with emphasis on how much better the world would be without those men.
Plus the girl mine boss rink owner lady who paid Hank to move Annie's body got no punishment.
Wow! This season really hurt you.
@@HOFFAMVA no, it did not. It's just my way of engaging in a meaningful discussion instead of calling something or someone "sexist" without backing it with facts. Crazy, I know.
“WE NEED MORE POLLUTION FOR THESE LIFE SAVING STUDIES!!!”
Gotta make the kid clean up those corpses immediately! You never know when the cops might show up in the remote Alaskan town.
that was only in there because otherwise he would've helped at the end and well we can't have a competent man can we
Could’ve skipped episodes 2-5 and you’d miss nothing. There was zero detective work this whole season. The personal lives were so boring. Why does it take the LAST episode for Danvers to finally open up about her kid dying? It’s too late for me to care about her character when all she did was walk around and curse every other sentence and treat Prior like shit every 15 minutes. I don’t understand how this show got to air. So poorly written. If it weren’t for the Alaskan setting this show would have nothing going for it.
The research was about DNA in permafrost not about pollution. The pollution just helped get through the permafrost. I would assume most of the papers in that laboratory were about the actual thing they were researching and not about the super secret pollution they were keeping quiet about. So how did Annie just happen to find a paper about the pollution that made her go so crazy to destroy the laboratory.
You could construct a dissertation on how and why this season is so bad. Some of it, however, is quite disturbing. Entertainment for a dumber authoritarian future. How have we come this far in the years since Season 1?
I cannot recall watching a TV show finale so incompetent, so badly written, so appallingly stupid. This thing sucked so bad it sucked the joy out of me. This shitbowl made me angry and depressed the whole day
So many unresolved plot threads and/or plot holes. The only one they directly address is the missing tongue....which doesnt end up feeling like any mystery. It just feels like the writers needed that tongue to establish some sort of reason for the characters to link the two cases.
Maybe it's some sort of Alan Wake-inspired Writer Ex Machina. The whole time, we've been watching a story within a story 😱.
It was the most well made bad show I’ve seen in a while. It kept me entertained up until episode 6 where it completely falls apart.
Why did the scientist turn into murdering psychopaths?
How the hell did the one scientist survive overnight naked in a snow storm + another day or more submerged in snow?
When the surviving scientist wakes up from the coma, what’s up with all the “she’s awake” nonsense when all he had to say was “it was the cleaning ladies”?
Why did the cleaning ladies murder every single scientist in such a horrific manner? For all they knew, one guy could’ve been responsible.
I physically cringed at the “Time is a flat circle” line. It doesn’t work coming from anyone other than Rust Cohle. It’s also a bit of meme at this point.
Perfect review. The crazy part is out of all these things you mentioned there’s ever more super unlikely things that shouldn’t have happened like it did.
Like why in the fucking world would a bunch of scientist hear a commotion in the ice cave and see a guy murdering a girl then just join in and start helping murder her 😂 in what world does a scientist have the guts to to do that let alone all of them at the same time like cmon.
They’re men, and men bad.
That was comical 😂😂😂
thank you for this and the review in Forbes. it's shocking how every other major platform is loving it
When it's as cold outside your house as it is in Alaska during a winter blizzard, you don't stand in your open doorway having a conversation letting all the warmth from your home out into the universe. It's comical.
Ha! They did that practically the entire season! I'm in NY, it's cold & I notice that shit. 😂 Some scenes I was waiting w/ baited breath for someone to just simply close the godamn door. Some scenes they didn't even bother closing it. Unbelievable
8:20 I think the urgency was because they thought the storm would deter the mine from interfering. So they get to Tsalal and Danvers is complaining they can't drive anywhere or have cell coverage because of the storm. But the original plan apparently was that they were going to ride out the storm in an ICE CAVE.