The 52% Win Rate Problem
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“Plat II is a big plateau point”.
Me who plateaued in silver for a year (and finally just hit gold): It’s going to be a loooong ride up.
All the *some rank* 2-s are a problem most of the time, since you are already facing ppl that are close to the rank above.
It took me like 3 months to get into G4 from S2. I am now G2 and I am already scared of the future of getting to G1, which will be the next break point, after which plat should be semi more doable
My guy, well done to you!! Ive plateaud at silver for 5 years:(
just remember league is a marathon not a sprint. Took me 550 games with 53% winrate to climb from Silver2 to Plat4. You literally lose blood sweat and tears to climb but you just have to persevere and improve every game.
Try being in silver since 2015
You only plateud in silver for a year?
Amazing as always Curtis, you must be the only league RUclipsr who so adequately covers the importance of mental and psychological factors within league- which often helps people more than purely gameplay oriented information and helps people in their approach to life holistically ! I always feel that your work transcends the game and that is what makes it so rewarding and effective, keep it up! I wish you all the best
Thanks for the kind words Joseph , appreciate you tuning in
Check out Neace. He also approaches league from a full-life perspective
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I love how you put E-girls in your slides to make a point lmao
i laughed at that for too long…
absolutely iconic. i'm still laughing hahahahha
It's so true though lmao
@@nicholaswilkins9950 yeah, the twitch yumi/lulu kids with a new acc with 80% wr duo boosting egirl and are d2 peakers. The classic.
Già lo sai socio
Having these free coaching is a blessing and makes me want to start ranked play
THANK YOU for this vid. People are so stupid when it comes to what winrates show
My pleasure George, definitely an important topic to call bs on
W/r and kda don't work in team games as a measure of skill imho it works in 1v1s an team games wear all platers are premade consistently
Imagine flaming your teammate like this only to find out it's Coach Curtis and then he goes on to make a video about you lol.
doesnt change the fact he is playing bad in my game, deserves to be flamed if playing bad tbh
@@beddingfield214 ok
@@beddingfield214 you good?
@@beddingfield214 i heard if you flame someone hard enough, they'll become Faker
@@farahabdulahi474 man its completely understandable that people rage over him playing shit because he is practicing a new champ on his diamond smurf, for lots of people its their main account and they dont think its funny if he does his little practice in their ranked games. but why am i telling you this, youre just a silver shitter who cries when he gets flamed anyways
I've never seen more truth bombs in the first 4 minutes of a video before. I was laughing out loud for the whole section out of how true it was. The way you described your experience made me want to change my response to flame to a curious learning experience. Thanks Coach, love you, never stop being such an amazing person.
Yeah me 2
Thanks for the video!
Also, because a lot of popular streamers call Plat and below Low Elo, now most people in the League community actually consider Plat/Gold to be low elo, despite the fact that if you are in plat/gold, then you are already in the top 20% of the player base. So, because of this idea of what low elo is, a lot of players lose their mental stability and start blaming others for keeping them in this "trash elo" instead of just stepping back and seeing that they are already doing quite well.
I'm just barely holding gold 4 with a 42% w/r, op.gg says i'm ranked 33.58% of top. So i'm utter garbage, I know, but i'm still better than 66% of the player base and that just blows my mind lol.
@@SoDamnMetal A lot of players dont even play ranked and op.gg ranks only ranked players.
I think this “better than XX%” of other players isn’t a helpful metric. Most pros consider anything under Master or D1 in some regions to be bad and the gap between a D1 and challenger player is noticeable even if you’re not at that level, you can see how differently they play. The bigger problem with the considering yourself to be XX% of the top is that it can give you a false sense of security that prevents you from taking ownership of your own mistakes/games, which is what the whole point of this video is. Neace has a few videos where he talks about how low diamond is the worst tier to climb through since the players think their good, so their gameplay stagnated and they become satisfied with reaching something popularly coveted rather than focusing on becoming better as players.
@@ollie-d For someone who aspires to be a pro player, yes this is ot a helpful metric. For rest of the ordinary folks who just want to have fun and be good player, have something else i his career to work upon, this is a helpful to know that he is already above average in the game. I agree this should not be used a s metric and we should always strive to be better than what we are currently.
People think they are better than other people, period. I could write a whole essay here covering the different versions of this, and why people do it blah blah. But point is, this is just human behavior. It's not always a bad thing, but it most certainly can be.
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Your explanation here might be 1 out of 200 possible reasons related to league of legends alone that people could develop some sort of superiority complex with.
ngl I died when coach said cringe turbo-boosted cringe player
Channeled his info Yamatosdeath. “Cringe lowbob boosted dogs.” 😂
sooooooo cringeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee xD i laughed there too
I died with the egirls
It hurt my soul to utter those words
the things coach does for us
It’s easy to understand things such as win-rates or LP gains, while understanding progression can be a lot harder to fathom. I think that is probably the root issue creating all these other problems. As usual, great video Curtis!
even if you are a good player you are put in a team of 5 which often consists of 4 animals that can sway the result harder than you yourself can unless you are a challenger smurf
Appreciate that man
As a martial artist I liked your analogy about karate belts. That's a good mentality to have.
Your videos have really improved my view of the game and have addressed a lot of the mental challenges that come from the climb. After being hard stuck Silver for years I finally broke the seal and hit Gold. I am no longer afraid of mistakes and take them as a learning opportunity. I am certain that by taking the time after each game and analyze any hiccups I can reach Plat by the end of the year. Thanks Coach!
Tyler1 is true representation of true grind
Holy fuck i've never had a video expose me so badly, i really needed this
My expectations when I saw the title:
'That's it, I have 52% wr this is surely a video in which is eventually stated that even if you have 52% wr you will never climb because you're hardstuck and you have bad MMR'
Me after actually seeing the video 'I'M A GOD 52% WR CHALLY I'M COMING'
i just wanna say how good this video is and how it opened my mind to improve, also u are a really nice person because you do all that for free and post it on youtube, you got all my respect and support. Keep going! You are a very nice as person and as a coach!
Appreciate that Luigi
You know how I find the best players in my games? Seeing how they react to mistakes. Legit my top laner gave FB, typed 'mb' and proceeded to teleport bot and got a double and carried us. Mental boom on so many players.
Then the 3 other players on the other team proceeded to spam “?” Ping their bot lane, called them the n word and reported them after the game, as a true league of legends player would.
The funny thing is I’ve gone through everything you just described. I was Plat IV with an 80% wr on ahri at the start of the season, but I wanted to diversify my champ pool and I eventually deranked because I wasn’t good enough. 1k games later and i made it back, but only after getting a second account to prove to myself that I’m not actually washed. If there’s anything I could say, its that if you want to get better, focus on your own performance and DONT blame externals. Enjoy the process of getting better, not the end result like the rank you have or the ego boost you get.
Me: sees this video and clicks.
Also me: notices that I have a 52% winrate.
I’m a problem
me after hearing that it is actually good :D
It's a good thing!
you are tyler1, a problem
Coach curtis main has 52% lol
A few years ago when I was trying to grind lp I used to look at all those pre-game apps that tell you your allies stats like winrate etc. and it used to influence me so much when there was either a very low or very high %wr teammate, it shifted my gameplay and my mentality. From now on I'll do without those and just stick to my gameplay. Thank you!
"The 52% Win Rate Problem" me: laughs in 53% wr
cries in 48% wr
Hysterical in 54%
MUWAHAHAHHAHA D1 rookies!!!!!
@@alacastersoi8265 me with 45% 😬
Didn't get around to watching this video until recently, really great re-alignment for soloq and the Curtis mindset. Great stuff coach!
Reached the point where you’re now talking about incremental improvement being the only way to advance at the game. Most of these last 5 or 6 minutes is actually spot on, it’s well explained, and correctly identifies a number of issues with player mentalities and the deficiencies of the ladder environment itself. Kudos for this part.
Been flamed so many times when learning a new champion. Great video! Love it Curtis! Flaming someone else is self destructive, focusing on what I can do to help myself improve is the best thing to do. Do what I can do and don't worry about everyone else unless I can actually help but flaming is never helpful.
It's amazing how his videos make me want to play ranked again, even if I get turbo-flamed every game
mute, I play with chat removed. Someone spam ping? I mute their ping. Just mute.
believe this man. Mute was one of the best quality of life improvements to ranked
@@Sorest2 Well, while I agree chat is mostly useless, pings can be very valuable, and it’s sometimes hard to decide between muting them not to get tilted or keeping them because otherwise you could miss out on valuable information.
@@theancientone1616 Agree pings can be very valuable. But trust me, if you're ever contenplating a mute, just mute. Your emotional state is WAAAAAY more important than that one tilted shithole's pings.
@@Sorest2 Maybe you are right, but another problem is when someone starts spam pinging me, I sometimes immediately get tilted before I can even mute their pings. Sure I muted their pings after they started spam pinging me, but I’m already tilted.
Curtis is amazing how you seem to read my mind and make videos about my problem. GREAT WORK!!
As one of the early subs, I just came back and I am proud of both the haircut and the sub count. Well deserved, coach.
Great video. Probably the best you've done so far.
I really appreciate the eloquence you have bringing people through an entire thought process that culminates into a complete and fully applicable idea.
This video was scary accurate. I am weak mentally and have even considered boosting seriously multiple times. It was like he's speaking directly to me, throughout the entire video >.
I'm a jungler, and your "chaotic nature of the game" and frustration plays part at the end really struck a cord with me. I'm grinding to try and get plat and consistently getting best or 2nd best on team/game but I get so focused on the mistakes of others that I let myself get tilted and can't always get myself out of it or get carried out of it. Really just want to say that as a Virkayu Stan who only jungles, I still thoroughly enjoy the occasional CC video and love these kinds especially. Thanks!
I do the same bro... But jungle has the adv of have a big influence on the game and usually ur word means something.
straight up went from gold 1 to gold 3 in a day, climbing back to g1 and it feels exactly as you point out on this video, ill play this every day from now on. im so glad im subbed to your channel
This is exactly what i needed to start moving forward... Great video
I was very demoralized being in silver 4 mmr. I appreciate this video even though I probably am just bad
Recently I was playing Ekko mid vs Katarina. It’s been some time since I played Ekko but I have a 67% winrate in 57 games or something close to that, mastery 7.
Kai’sa in champ select said: “Feed me and we win” so well I didn’t have a good opinion on her and already was sighing in champ select. 3 minutes into the game she starts flaming the support and not even focussing on the game anymore because our Zyra accidentily stole 2 or 3 minions. Well I pointed out that the Kai’sa should just shut up and play so we weren’t on good terms already.
I went even in lane vs Katarina, no one solo killed each other, I had a 5-10 cs lead or something. I roamed bot once and gave Kai’sa a free kill, even after that she was still flaming me non stop.
Top was feeding hard, enemy mordekaiser had 7 kills out of the laning phase and started roaming mid, I got turret dived thrice under different turrets by the Trundle Jungle and Morde top. So I started stacking up deaths and ofcourse the Kai’sa started flaming harder.
Enemy team was hitting our nexus but we came back, later we rushed Baron and after we got baron, I did a flank and got a 5 MAN STUN with Ekko W, we aced them and ended the game. Not a single person said nice play to me because Kai’sa was flaming me and they all acted like I was trash the whole game so once they start flaming they can never say a goos thing to you after that.
Even outside of the winrates stuff, the stuff about stages and identifying issues is a bloody good watch.Kudos to you Curtis.
Your video ideas are so original, keep up the good work!
As a GM player, i couldn't agree more about what you say, especially about progression pace and mental.
Good video!
Amazing how you always seem to post the video I need at the exact time I need it! Thank you coach!!
I quit LoL a while back, so maybe they fixed this issue, but there is/was a fundamental difference to climbing in master, GM, and challenger then there is to climbing in iron through diamond. One has divisions and promos that will reset your LP, and the other doesn't.
In master if you can keep a 52% win rate on your climb, you will increase your LP long term. If you can maintain 52% win rate over 1500 games with on average 16 lp gain/loss a game you will end up with around 960 more lp then you started with. The minimum LP to enter grand master is 200 and challenger is 500 to put this into perception.
Below Masters, promotional and divisional games are/were things and dropping rank was/is east
The problem with 52% win rate is it is extremely hard to reliably win the 3/4 games needed to advance a division or the 4/6 needed to promote. In addition when you failed to advance your lp would reset to a benchmark. You start a new division 0 lp. Lose 2 games and your back to your previous LP, but not at 100 LP, but at a predefined 60 lp. This means in order to advance a division you didn't just need a 52% win rate. You also needed a properly timed set of roughly 8 games where you only lost 2 times. If you lost more then that you would fall back to the previous/current division 60 lp. The chance of winning 6 out of 8 games at 52% win rate is: C(8,2).52^6.48^2 ~ 12.75%.
So every division takes roughly 8 attempts to climb past (at 8 games each). This is in addition to getting to the point to climb. assuming 16 lp a game again. It takes 64 games to gain 30 lp and 110 games to get to the point in the process where you are oscillating between divisions (the other 70 lp).This means to gain a full 100 lp with a 52% win rate, it takes on average 175 games. If you played 1500 games like the master player you would go up roughly 8 divisions. If your goal was to go from bronze to gold you would probably need to play more then double the games a player would need to to go from masters to high challeneger, at the same win rate.
The way to climb in below master is/was not with a 52% win rate. It is/was by getting better at winning games then everyone else your playing against/with.
Not sure if LoL ever got better. I quit because this system was so punishing. After seeing the ahri drama I kind of want to come back just to ban ahri, but I am not sure my mental health could handle it.
thank you youve literally saved my life, im level 446 on my main baby, hardstuck bronze, the moment i started improving on myself for MYSELF, muting teams and the whole shabang, i started winning games,
i can play any champion and win
ive reviewed my games and take more breaks for my mental
poor mental support FROM YOUR OWN
teammates can really effect your progress
i dont want to quit anymore because now my game sense is a huge library in my brain and i can accomplish things i never thought i could BUT I CANT CLIMB ANYMORE, i get placed with higher elo players when i go to hard and i get thrown back because of my bad habits, can you please help me?
I was p4 when I subscribed ur channel now I'm D2 Thank you for everything
Quality content, well done. The only thing good about the flame from this game is that when I jump into different online game, I'm hard as a rock. Can't flame what's already been burnt.
This guy is like the xFSN Saber of Mid Lane. Genuine love for the game and teaching. Pure gold human beings.
That saber guy is cringe , don’t compare the goat with him
@@ahsanhabibkhan6217 what do you have against saber? He has a great, intuitive way of teaching
@@sebrr039 Very true. I got a single coaching session and went from Silver IV to Gold I. Now after the 2nd session, I'm on track for Plat I... They're both great.
I'd love it if names were hidden during matchmaking and in game, and only visible during post match lobby.
Not for me, my KDAs are fine. My 73% WR diamond Senna doesn't care. But I say it cause I don't want my team to give up if we get worse players. I don't look up winrates or stats. I just carry. Shut up and play LMAO.
You forgot to say diamond 4
If the autofill system wasn't atrocious then maybe people wouldn't dodge or flame. A filled jungle vs an on role jungler is night and day. It will be an auto loss 95% of the time
thank you jesus christ, i meet so many retards who give up because some dude on my team is on a 10 game loss streak, like people like you are the reason hes on a loss streak.
@@tinnitusthenight5545 People simply do not like being told what they can and cannot play in a video game. We have role que for a reason. maybe if having auto fills on your team wasn't an auto loss 95% of the time maybe people wouldn't dodge lol. Instead the games become 1 sided stomps. Explain to me how a player will learn anything in this situation? What incentive is there to play out a game that is over from draft? Maybe people don't have the time to learn a new role and just want to play a few games. Maybe they simply don't want to. If Riot wants players to learn how to play more than 1 role they have to make it worth while for the player instead of just "you know how to play this role for when you are filled". Even some blue essence, orange essence, a champion shard, literally anything as a compensation for taking one for the team.
What you people seem to fail to understand about the dodging problem is that it is merely a symptom not the cause. What is the main reason that people dodge? autofill and game quality. When you have a top laner as your jungler you already know there is a good chance that your jungler will be outclassed. maybe if riot just AUTOFILLED THE SAME ROLE PER TEAM that would be a good start. Unfortunately riot really doesn't do anything but punish players for wanting better game quality. You want to punish dodging but never seem to ask yourself why so much dodging is happening in the first place. Not to mention the amount of soft inting, and greifing. How often has a player actually been suspended for intentional feeding? hardly ever it seems like the amount of times i've reported. It's hilarious that people bring up longer que times as if the actual que times would be that much different compared to now when you can have up to 3 dodges per que that often are dodged at the last moment. A single champion select can go for up to 11 minutes. Champ select being dodged two or three times amounts to likely what is a seconds difference in que times if autofill was removed/optional.
this same thing happens when you pick offmeta. few weeks ago I picked up Zac mid because I saw it in Korea and it was popping off so I gave it a go and it felt extremely good. At least half the games from champ select I get question mark pings or the first time something would go wrong I would get flamed for going tank zac mid. Majority of games I had most dmg in game as well as solo winning my lane/ having map pressure. Because these players (also in mid to low diamond) havent seen it they will blame that for the game result mid way through the game and no matter what happens they mentally have lost the game already. It made it to where I cant go Zac mid until masters
Now I finally understand why overwatch gave the ability to hide your profile. I actually saw this exact phenomenon yesterday when I was playing on a new account that was higher then my main, and it took me going 1/11 to get even flamed once and even then it was underwhelming
Actually such an amazing video. Thank you very much Curtis
Your first 3 minutes described nearly every Bronze and Silver game
Even in diamond +
damn, how had i not discovered this channel for all this time! really good take on how to break down the review process
I got clickbaited thinking you would talk about blue side advantage!
Good content anwyay, keep it up
6:00 when looking at winrates here I did some arithmetic and if both Quid and Sniper got +15 LP per extra win, Quid with 52% winrate but more games would still end up with +200 LP more than Sniper
so the "bad guy" literally ends up way higher on the ladder lol
If you take the same starting point, and same starting mmr, which obviously is not the case. So you cant compare those wr like that
@UCwT2hotXEVZhMGSYVQ2ecNA what i wanted to say is, the "bad guy" doesnt end up higher, because he started like 200 lp lower, else they wouldnt be on the same level now
@@aqtjohxnn6528 i bet both these guys spent +95% of their time in chall
my point also was that for 2 functions (x=games, y=rank), even if 1 has higher constant rate of change (=winrate) if other has more more more func values, the othermay as well win
so yes i can compare.
Thanks a lot for the advice, this video truly helped me and humbled myself.
Curtis i love you and your content keep it up man, so genuine and to the point, and completely for free thats just beyond awesome. i followed you on everything i could and like subbed. You just made an entire video about the issues i was fighting myself without me realising it.
MMR+WR+LP gains were everything i was caring about the past few months, thinking to myself that high elo players are just abusing the ranked system and get to high elo. Yet i stopped playing on my main and made hundreds of accounts to get gold/plat/dia and putting them away the moment they started getting shitty LP gains.
I just even lost my stamina in ranked playing one a few games and than getting shit pissed at myself for losing an game tilting me for the rest of the day.
i dodged every low WR no games played troll picks.
Recently i started playing no matter what , no dodges, no checking up on mates, not caring about picks and teamcombs, and i started climbing again.
I dont even get tilted anymore when my team goes 0/10 i just dont care anymore, i just play for the sake of playing, which i didnt do in a while.
My improvement was stagnating, but now i feel like starting to understand more about my Stage 3 problems and feel open to my stage 2 and 1 problems :D
Thanks again my dude.
Recently, I stopped caring about WR% and winning. and started focusing on learning and improving while grinding. I also started having fun while playing again.
Thank you. As a rank 500 peak in NA hard soloq grinder who sits on a 52-54% win rate on average when I'm grinding, I constantly get flamed by anyone and everyone whenever I play games as being hard stuck or boosted, especially when I play on other accounts to learn champions on my diamond accounts. Many people focus so much on how they perceive the game should be played and often consider me "not good" because I'm not a flashy player, but prefer to play smart macro games instead of high octane like some of those other players in high elo we know.
Yet another banger. I love the videos on mentality and improvement the most and this was no exception. Keep up the amazing work Coach C!
My God this video is probably the most beautiful gift you could give to us THANK YOU CURTIS!
8:30 for me I blame myself while trying to shift the blame away from my skill (oh, I'm in gold because I tilt if I could focus I'm easily skilled enough to climb, I tell myself, which is like a little true) but even before the video I know that if I CONSISTENTLY can't climb it's my skill both in mental and the game
while, yes a singular game can have been lost by matchmaking/teammates climbing isn't that one game that was the climb, it's winning or losing across many games
incredible, perfect to watch during warm up. thx for bringing this up coach.
Your comment around 22:45 about not having awareness of where your heimer was at the time is actually very confidence boosting for me. Generally my awareness is very strong, but in unexpected/wired moments of high intensity I sometimes have a lapse in awareness that makes me feel incredibly silly in review.
It's good to know that even top tier players sometimes make this same mistake!
I found that over the course of 1-3 months, I went from a silver 4 level adc to a gold 4 level adc because I wasn't worried about losing and I discovered what helped me perform well despite having awful win rates at times.
I don't know but last season was my final season of play. Been playing since season 3 and got gold my first season and plat season 4. Never really took it seriously enough to push as high as a I can etc only playing aram or flex with friends. But last season my best friend and I before college spent the entire summer learning and grinding/duoq (Him top me jungle). We got there with a phenomenal 67% w/r in about 400 games. Couldn't be happier now that it's uninstalled tbh. I agree with this 100%. Everyone always looks at the lowest wr scapegoat. Its kinda gross tbh IDK why people can't be nice.
As someone who got inted a lot in mid plat this year, I very much understand this. The game needs SERIOUS help. My league is low gold, my MMR is mid plat, my winrate's about 60%, and I'M THE ONE GETTING FLAMED when somebody goes 0/5 before I can make a play anywhere on the map! What is wrong with these people? My stats have nothing to do with it, I'm bloody smurfing down from diamond, my lane opponent and/or enemy jungler is getting CRUSHED, and yet it's still somehow my fault that I can't be in two places at once yet.
Also yes, clamping makes this worse.
As for karate: there are no excuses in a real fight. You don't have coinflip teammates, you can't get your account stalked by queuefarmer (okay you can, but the cops will probably do more about them than in league) etc.
11:47 bro i thought that that wall has something to do with "terrible improvement process" 😂
Good Stuff Champion, love your very specific and different content to me, Thankyou Summoner !
@coachcurtis. They aren't at the same rank, btw. No where near close. It only applys in challenger/mid+ gm
1:20 the life of a jungle main
This was a video that had a great message that I really enjoyed listening to. Thanks for the video.
Its funny how this differs from game to game.
Back when I played Hearthstone, a 52% WR deck was considered broken OP and people would just tell you to "grind the 52% winrate out". If you played 52% winrate long enough, youd end up in Legend.
In any game a race/hero/character with a global 52-54% winrate would be considered busted. In HOTS, one of the heros got a 56% winrate and is a notorious pick/ban.
Hilarious how ppl would consider a 52% WR profile bad, yet in other games (and even just statistics) a 52% WR is considered phenomenal.
Same thing applies to players vs champions in this very game. Champion with 53% winrate? Incredibly broken, please nerf. Platinum with 53% winrate? Dog poo, go feed dirt.
As someone that started playing a lot only this season (after being Bronze to Silver with a couple games a season), I'm proud of my 53.8% winrate in Plat IV by now :D
Greetings from the EU West Servers. I really enjoy your high quality videos
This helped me massively thanks a ton! Subscribed
the high elo contradiction part described me pretty well lol.
Another banger, great video and great advice!
I'm so glad I found your channel, better late than never.
Cant have this problem if you have a 48% wr 😂
or 39%... stuck in bronze lol
@@tulipiscute More normal games if you're stuck,then switch back to ranked
@@Aralent why not just ranked?
@@hidden4u983 Well normal is easier or arams to get back on track (for me atleast).
I had this problem in Gold 2-3 elo this season. I had a 42% win rate at the start/mid of the season. I got flamed so often but what they didn't understand that I was at this winrate with positions that I was practicing. You can only practice so much in normals before I feel like ranked is better for practice. And when I wanted to climb faster I picked up my main role again but had something like 75 different champions played in 125 ranked games. Even had so many gold egos calling me trash that I've had to 1v1 them after the game to put them in their place.
You just described 80% of the playerbase with this video. God tier video
I'm a support/jg main in bronze/silver who had really bad losing streaks early in the season and my winrate became 41%. I changed it to 47% in a month playing 1-3 games a day, 3-4 days a week. My teammates almost always flame me so I have chat disabled now.
Inting adcs always blame me when they're doing poorly due to them not listening to my pings about ganks/vision/enemy movement/etc. They whine about me stealing their cs and kills when they're dead, or I'm pushing a wave on the other side of the map. Meanwhile I've roamed and deep warded enemy jungle, successfully ganked mid, and helped jungler get dragons. Sigh.
Just wanted to say thank you. I am gold 4 hardstuck with playing 2+ games a day for about 1,5 years now and i just watch your why you are hardstuck in gold and platin video and it was just perfect for my situation. I hardly ever really think about the game and just do stuff i hope i helps me a lot also planned to watch a vid about vod review and try that out. I now have 6 weeks holidays and want to atleast get to plat 4 with your video hope i make it also just changed from Urgot to Jax again. After briefly hitting gold 2 with Urgot i got demoted to gold 4 again with him and i think the skill cap on jax is just much higher and those dam vayne or other adc mains wont kill me so easy with the new / old pick. I will also watch your other videos and try to learn.
P.S. non english native speaker ^^
But urgot is also really good to climb plus u should always me a 3 trick.
would be interesting if win rate stats were seperated by the level of the match. 60% winrate in gold average games, 55% winrate in platinum games, etc
this is very helpful for me. I'm currently 52% WR in Plat 4 and Plat 3 when I got to plat 4 with a 59% wr. The stage 3 mindset tips are very helpful. I make tons of compensation plays.
This is such a good video. Nothing else to say. Very good work.
Proud owner of a 44% WR account :)
The explanation is simple: I don't care about WR and LP and I spammed new champions I wanted to learn this season. Still figuring out which my champ pool will be.
Improvement > LP/rank :)
Another fun thing I occasionally get from my account is: "Ohh you have the season 1 gold cup icon, and you still a plat player after 10 years, you suck!" and the thing they don't realize is that I stopped playing on s2 and just came back in s10 again, and even then I play about 200 games a year. Basically: we have lots of statistics in these pages now, but most ppl don't have a clue how to read them or what the stats actually mean.
Interesting topic to watch, really important
Why do I get ranked anxiety when i win too much, i keep looping like this - i play bad after a break > i play a lot of games > i get better at the game, but i still don't win much > then i suddenly start carrying games after i improve enough > now i lose motivation and get scared of not being able to carry > stop playing for a long time > repeat
Curtis, I LOVE the content. About to hit that subscribe bell icon.
Stage 3/ Stafe 1 is where I need to put in work. I learned to play League with guys who are high Plat and Low diamond. I understand the theory of the game pretty well. Thanks for the content!
Just a comment early on, but the points you made about when you'd hover your low WR pick was what I remember having whenever I'd hover a very unpopular champ in ranked back in the day.
I specifically remember pre rework Urgot back in like 2015 or something, I played him a couple games mid and top and every game, instantly in champ select people were spamming ff, raging at me for picking such a terrible champion and losing the game for them. Literally everyone on my team could(and did once) lose in all positions and I still got blamed like my urgot pick somehow made the top laner die level 2 or whatever
I remember being hardstuck yellow belt. Some things never change...
This is literally me right now, thanks for the video. It's so useful!
you've inspired me Curtis. I'm gonna go on my main and just play and not care about winning or loosing. Just trying my best. I have alot of anxiety but I'm going to try and overcome it.
Been doing my provisinals on my main and have played 9 games now. I useally have chat musted but have had it unmuted so far. Every game I play I run into people with massive egos and sharp tungs. Will have to play muted chat.
Makes a lot of sense.
I was Silver since Season 3. In Season 9 I decided to play soloq more seriously. 75% winrate through Silver (Zyra otp lol), 62% at Plat 1 promos, finished in Plat 3 with 58-59% (200 games). Next season: 65% in Gold to 55% at Plat 3. Looking at my winrate I felt like I could even be Master. But whenever I failed promos I lost my focus and motivation. What is my level? I certainly need to play more to find out, but as we're playing we're (hopefully) also improving. So rank and winrate really can't be equal to skill level. It's there to have rough estimation and to make things more interesting.
I have to play more so I can have 52% winrate. :D
This is why I liked a certain video by a man named Bonks - he says to only focus on getting better and to stop focusing on your rank or win rate. They inhibit our ability waaay more than they help us gauge it.
You can see the Leblanc holding her spells and just auto attacking the level 5 JarvanIV so that if ekko comes she will run and kite them to her teamates or in the other case which ekko didn't come she will burn her escape to one shot the JarvanIV. So it's a lose lose setuation for ekko. Or the biggest good thing is to save Jarvan from his poor gank and try to get both alive out of that setuation.
Man, I love your videos keep it up. Great job mate.
I am so scared of getting flamed, and ruining a game, that I always back up players who get flamed. Like I never flame, I just say 'don't do this, do that', and even if they don't listen and keep on feeding, I just sigh and let it be. And if someone starts flaming one person, I am like defense mode and try to protect them, cuz nothing ruins a game more than constant flaming and bringing someone down. And I just hope someone has my back one day(spoiler: never happened)
Here a short story of how I got flamed by literally everyone. I go blind pick, i write mid in chat first, someone picks yasuo and just walks down midlane and says I should leave. I stood my ground and said that it is my right to play mid, cuz unspoken rule. He goes bot but flames me, but smh garen stays in my lane and doesn't leave. Flames me constantly, says he gonna f*ck my mom, that he hopes my mom dies. Bla bla. I say 'my mom dead'(i lied, i just thought sympathy would stop him from flaming), he says 'gonna f*ck her corpse'. He feeds the enemy mid laner a 9/0/1 meal, doesn't buy items. Doesn't stop flaming. Yasuo says he is happy that I 'cry'. The toplaner says to ME to shut up. At the end the supp says 'thx' to me we lost... We didn't have a jungler obv. But that game was so bad, and ruined my mood so much. I logged off and was really just so bummed out. I try to avoid to play after 2 am alone... cuz of scum like this. It was turkish server, if anyone wonders.
Thinking about "Man... I'm just hardstuck yellow belt" made me laugh. Such a good point and great discussion
Great video man, ill try my best to apply your advice in my future games.
Win rate has some meaning tho. I will dodge a 30% wr mid laner. 9 out of 10 saves my mmr and save my mental energy. Stats has some meaning but don’t only judge base on wr.
I don't think the 3-stage system only applies to league, but to a lot of competitive games! Thanks for the awesome video, coach!