All Kim v. Howard Scenes (S1-5 Better Call Saul)
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- Here's to hoping she yells at him some more in season 6!
edit: if you're coming here to comment that i left out some scenes and that the audio is bad i know 😭 this was the first time i ever edited a video and i wasnt expecting more than 5 people to see it. now go watch my music edits for the show
Episodes are Pimento, Breathe, and Something Unforgivable. 
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Kim was so mad at that "I don't care" line that she contacted Lalo to take Howard out 5 seasons before he was introduced.
Lol he came in around the end of season 4
that was just _Howard telling it like it is_
Bravo Vince
@@nont18411 Vravo Bince
WHAT!?
“Because I don’t care” is probably one of the best delivered lines in the show. It’s music to my ears.
I couldn't agree more. It's fantastic, devastating delivery, like a resonant bomb being dropped in the coldest way. And when we see ultimately that it's done under duress, it only magnifies the delivery. Patrick Fabian kills it in this series.
The exact line I was looking for.
I searched this video out specifically just to hear that
« You think of me, you twisted fuck. »
@@frankdodd3355 Also, you notice when she turned away, he didn't like doing that. It's because Howard made the call and he is trying to go with it, without throwing him under the bus.
What I love about the "keep it to yourself" scene is that it initially seems to prove all of the audience's suspicions about Howard being a pretentious blowhard, but immediately afterward he regrets his words and tells Kim the truth. One of the best written characters in BCS
Everyone is praising the "I dont care line" when it clearly wasnt genuine. He immediately regretted saying it and called Kim back into his office.
It's the way he says it tbh
we are praising it because it sounds funny
It's praiseworthy *because* it is literally a hammy line from Hamlin. If this was genuinely how the character was feeling it would be shitty acting, but as we find out later, it is hammed up because Hamlin was trying to pretend to be the bad guy. So basically it's a good actor pretending to be a bad actor but still sounding cool in his delivery, that's why people love it.
You wanna know what I believe, I believe that you are way out of your depth in this matter, so, the next time you want to come here and tell us what we are doing wrong, you are welcome to keep it to yourself, because we don’t care
Close the door, I need to tell you something
He regrets the way he says it, not the fact that he told her he doesn't care. Howard is actually a soft caring person who doesnt like to hurt people. It's just that he's trained himself to be hard and cold when he needs to be in order to get things done. He's a lawyer. It's all an act, look at the way he walks and stands, it's all rehearsed.
Kim is textbook Stockholm Syndrome. Jimmy is *broken*, she has no business being with him, but she's getting off emotionally on the ups and downs of all his antics (major theme of the last season) - and in the end - look where she ends up.... The last scene of this edit is genius foreshadowing of the fact that Jimmy in the end will destroy all of Kim's potential.
“You know who really knew Jimmy? Chuck.”
Chuck’s actions made Jimmy that way he was, but Jimmy’s actions after Chuck’s death proved to Howard that everything Chuck said about him was true.
The worst choice road for Jimmy was throwing that therapy card down the toilet. If he went to a shrink, his emotions and outlook on life would’ve turned out very differently.
But still, even if he came back as Jimmy McGill esq., the cartel would’ve got him anyway thanks to his mistake in season 1.
@@nont18411 Biggest mistake of his life was not ending all contact with Chuck after he learned Chuck stabbed him in the back. Again. He is just a bad influence ane constant source of rage and sorroe in Jimmy's life. I imagine he could have partenered with Kim, maintained and even improved his relationship with Howard(Howard only ever went along with Chuck's schemes out of loyalty and never because he had anything against Jimmy. He said himself he had always liked him.) and settled the Sandpiper case.
Also, thank fuck one person gets it. Seems like every douche bag thinks Chuck was right back when he was alive. No, you incompetent nincompoops. He wasn't. Jimmy had been clean for nearly a decade and only when Chuck stabbed him in the back again did he begin to change for the worse.
Of course, After Chuck was gone, there was no way in good faith one can claim Jimmy's on his own and his actions are only his own. Howard wanted to reconcile and put the oast behind them, but Jimmy did not try to let go of his resentnent and processrd his emotions, so he decided to just let go of any chance to better that situation. At this point it is on him. And I cannot blame Howard for thinking the way he did after Jimmy and Kim ruined his life.
@@Nai-qk4vp nah. His biggest mistake was him defecating through a sunroof.
Except Jimmy was already cutting corners even before he knew Chuck had betrayed hım. There is just no senario where Chuck was reason Jimmy is the way he is. I get that just because you see things in Jimmy's perspective you grow to like the character and think he is in the right but if you take his actions with their reason in a objective judgement, things he did is on his own and there is no one that could have stopped hım.
Howard slowly but surely became one of my favorites. Outside of Nacho’s Dad, he is one of the most inherently well meaning and good characters of the story.
Howard was the literall reverse mirror to Jimmy/Saul.
Both Howard and Jimmy went through some shit but unlike Jimmy, Howard didnt let those bad experiences change him and who he was. He endured everything they threw at him and kept his head high.
jimmy and kim let their inner demons consume them.
This show does their supporting characters so well. Better than breaking bad imo.
You may be right. Skyler banging Ted to "get back at Walt" just didn't get in people's heads the right way to be empathetic to her. I don't think it's misogyny, because imagine if in the show Weeds, and the main woman's husband was SO ANGRY she's dealing drugs, he bangs his younger, more legitimately successful secretary. Pretty sure women watchers would be just as much "that husband is fucking trash/bullshit" as the other way around, possibly more so. Except there would be a huge cringy scene where the drug dealing wife teaches her husband and the tramp a lesson using her hired thugs. Wheras Walt never punishes Ted, and only controls his wife himself using psychological traps (much more terrifying and dramatically engaging). Howard's feelings and actions seem logical every step of the way.
100 percent true. Look at how well made Kim Wexler's character is, and then look at Skylar's. Not even a competition
@@krypticunlimited6925 skylar is a better written and acted character than kim
@@merpleberg hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
@@merpleberg Such a terrible opinion
Top 3 Morally Just characters in the show:
3. Howard Hamlin
2. Papa Vargas
1. Lyle
Gotta love Kimmy’s dedication to her former boss though.
She sent Howard on a trip to Belize.
Howard was so happy that he lost his footing. Thankfully the coffee cable broke his fall
Bro...
whos billy
@@crimismimisteehee lol
@@crimismimisteehee not billys. its belize
As a high school teacher, I have a soundboard on my computer that I use to play soundbites to my students when applicable. It's fun. Anyway, I usually use Howard's fantastic delivery of "You are welcome to keep it to yourself. Because I don't care." when one of my students attempts to show me something about JoJo's Bizarre Adventure or some other anime thing. They love it.
that's amazing
That's hilarious!
You might want to start caring about JoJo or your students might set out on an over the top, intricately complex campaign to utterly ruin your life.
(ngl, really being honest, whatever the format, JoJo has a pretty interesting story and art style and could be interesting even to you.)
You have to fail all the weebs until they learn.
@@canonsprite teach the weebs the meaning of good television by introducing them to BCS
Jimmy: Is scared of his emotions, can’t open up, solves all his problems with scummy tactics
Howard: Not afraid to admit how he feels, is open and honest, and goes to therapy like a real man.
Yep and i hate what they did to him. Yes he was kind of a new age richie rich hipster, but he deserved none of these shit they put him through.
Howard got what he deserved for treating people the way he did.
howard does not feel howard was a liar for a couple of seasons and going to therapy and doing nothing about your wrongs is lame
@@buyucuserefsiz2199 the only things he did wrong, were unfairly punishing Kim and rejecting Jimmy from HHM. Even then, he only did so for Chuck’s sake, because you know, Chuck is his best friend AND mentor, who is the a huge reason for his success.
Try to really think, who’s side would you take:
Your best friend who raised you up to the top, or a stranger you know nothing about?
Besides all that, Howard rarely even felt comfortable by taking Chuck’s side, and after everything happened, he STILL made amends. How can you not see that?
Howard was an absolute Chad. He was even self aware of the fact that he got ahead because of his dad so he took extra care to lift up the associates and support staff of HHM. He even helped set up outside scholarships.
An absolute gigachad of the highest caliber.
Their last interaction hits way too hard. After all of this, Howard still showed genuine concern for her and Jimmy, even before Lalo pulled his gun
yeah he was trying to diffuse the Lalo situation and didn't run when Kim told him to. Tried to help them even after all the shit the put him through
underrated dynamic, I feel like there's a lot to their past that's left untold and we just can see by their tense and bitter relationship and little moments together. I'm gonna miss this show so much
I think we all feel there is or was something else between them because otherwise we can't justify what Kim did to Howard, because she definitely didn't have any reason to do what she did
@@zandergamer5429 i highly doubt someone as professional as howard would do something like that
@@smileyent.3055 I know, I was saying we might feel that because what Kim and Jimmy did is unjustifiable, but we all know Howard didn't do anything wrong
I actually thought they used to be lovers or something, until slippin Jimmy came along
@@jaybryan8140 He was slippin his Jimmy into her
I always thought the 2nd confrontation was totally uncalled for. Howard clearly had the right intentions and he was willing to make it up. I think at that moment Kim was unpacking her baggage by projecting onto Jimmy's grief. It's one of the few times Kim was so irate she lost her handling.
I agree. It also sets up a great contrast when Kim speaks to Howard’s wife, where she is doing the same thing (convincing her that Howard was on cocaine/committed suicide), yet she is lying, tainting Howard’s name, and doing it from an ingenuine place.
I don’t know about that. I think Kim makes an excellent point that Howard didn’t feel like he owed that theory to chucks ex wife but did owe it to Jimmy. Obviously Howard’s intentions weren’t malicious but they were definitely naive and a little selfish. It’s not that he was trying to hurt jimmy but he felt so much guilt towards chucks death that he had to unload onto somebody without really thinking about the consequences that would have on jimmy. I agree that Kim does go a little over the top but that’s mostly just the traumatic emotions surrounding chucks death and how horribly jimmy had been handling it up to this point. I wouldn’t say it’s uncalled for though.
@@ajgilcrest7887 what do you think about Kim’s words to Cheryl at Howard’s memorial?
@@ajgilcrest7887 I agree. Kim’s tone was uncalled for but telling someone that their brother might’ve actually killed themselves while they’ve just been blindsided by their death is a pretty shitty thing to do. I don’t think Howard meant ill by it, as he too was in shock, but it really wasn’t the right thing to do
She IS unpacking her baggage.
And adding Jimmy's reaction (or lack of) to his brothers death, Kim is using poor Haward as a punching bag and someone to blame instead of facing reality.
I love that the way he closes his eyes in guilt in the first scene makes a whole lot more sense when at the end you realize it wasn't his choice.
"You know who really know Jimmy? Chuck."
Reminder of what Chuck once said to Jimmy about someone is always gonna be hurt, and here we are
Said by the guy who by his own admission was going to tear down his firm and who then set his house on fire. Chuck was never in any way a reliable judge of Jimmy's character.
Put it like this: when Jimmy was clean for nearly ten years he accuses him of still being Slippin Jimmy and sabotages his career. Through Howard,no less. Didn't even have the balls to ssy it to.his brother's face until backed into a corner.
Saul Goodman is nothing less than what Chuck made of him.
Jimmy just came back from a cartel money pick-up where he was stranded in the desert and shot at, and Howard comes to her saying "omg he threw a bowling ball at my car" like that means anything to her now lmaoo
To be fair, Howard has no idea any of that happened. I actually kind of wonder what Jimmy told people on why he looked so beat up.
This comparison I never recognised before made me laugh my head off. Well said, lmao.
How was he supposed to know?
She even lmaoed in front of him hahaha
Well... that didn't age well
All this because of Chuck’s ill feelings towards his little brother
You're welcome to keep it to yourself. Because I don't care.
And Jimmy's ill feelings towards those he perceives to be in the establishment. Chuck paved the road and Jimmy drove on it.
@@Raptorman0205 kinda hard not to when you're being cockblocked at every turn
He was right about Jimmy the entire time
Chuck was right though. Even if it was largely personal. If anyone stopped him all the bad stuff outside the game wouldn't have happened.
Saying how well Chuck knew Jimmy in a room with the lights out is perfect writing.
2:22 he's in pain inside... But he has to roll the character chuck wanted
Oh well played I did never understood that here
"I've always liked you Jimmy."
And I will give him credit for putting a good word for him at Davis & Main and trying to reconcile with Jimmy after Chuck's death. He had his part in making Saul Goodman, true, even if unlike Chuck it was not out of malice but loyalty to Chuck. But really did work to be better. I wish that even if Jimmy didn't take the job they would have buried the hatchet and when the two crossed patbs they could have done some great things. Or in the worse scenario, that him and Jimmy had parted ways amicably. He was imperfect and was at fault several times. But he did not deserve to die the way he did.
@@Nai-qk4vp
Howard didn't deserve to die at all.
Rhea Seehorn is just incredible in the second confrontation, such an amazing performance
I agree, it was honestly my favorite interaction between the two in the show
1:55 is my favorite line in the whole show
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I just realized that Cheryl also used this "Duly noted" in season 6. Can't be accidental. ruclips.net/video/Y5RCgZaw9Ok/видео.html
@@trailerparkboys3390 1 person cares, and that one person is probably you
@@trailerparkboys3390now it's 157 including me, if you still care
Alright, Leveye, duly noted.
Howard Hamlin is the all-time worst case of someone killing the messenger.
He didn't deserve this... :(
He deserve more.
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@@shubhampatel7598 I know but what chuck and howard did to jimmy is not fair.
I can imagine these two as siblings, they look kinda similar! I’m interested to see what Kim’s plan for Howard is in season six
He's dead...
lets just say it was mind-blowing...
It was silent but deadly
@@Woodesies it’s so weird to read this, I just saw a comment where someone suggested they might be. That Howard’s father was Kim’s absent dad, and that’s why she had it in for Howard - he got the life she feels she should have had. I don’t know how plausible it is, but it’s so intriguing.
Kim eats Howard
1:44 This line is so genius because on first viewing it comes off like Howard passing judgement towards Jimmy when really he's frustrated with himself for saying what his friend (Chuck) really means (not hiring Jimmy)
Damn, I never thought about it that way, good catch.
I can't believe Howard just fell on his head in my temple.
That's mind blowing.
Will you lose your girl as well??
Honestly, Howard might be the most decent person in the main cast. He tried his best to help Jimmy, clearly wanted to make it right when he realized he'd hurt them both, and even after Kim reamed the hell out of him, he still tried to help her see how bad Jimmy could be. He didn't deserve one bit of what they did to him
True, many people mistook his kindness for weakness
Papa varga is the most decent, Howard is second
@@user-ty2fd5nu6u Papa Varga is not part of the main cast. But anyway Howard is someone who grew through the story, which is noteworthy in a franchise where people either stay the same or break bad
I think Howard is an asshole for the same reasons Kim did. He failed to consider her ability to make her own decisions at every turn and he paid for every single one of those slights
“Might be”? He’s the best person of the bunch by about 30 miles.
The "I don't care" line was the first time Howard hit me as a substantive character, no he doesn't actually mean that, but the delivery was so strong
The least problematic character in the show imo, sure he has a tendency to sound like a absolute dick but this show flips the script and always makes us root for the problematic people. He didn't deserve what was coming to him. He couldn't even be upset at Jimmy for a whole season because all the guilt of Chuck's death was poured onto him.
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Hello my fellow beefcake
The 'you're welcome to keep it to yourself' was the nicest way of saying FU I've ever heard lmao
She’s portraying him as the bad guy and the physical embodiment of the issue when he has no control over it
6:30 Literally so true, Chuck is the only person who truly knew and understood Jimmy.
Kim snapping and yelling at Howard...
Fucking incredible scene, perfectly played on all sides.
The acting dynamic between these two is off the charts. Even Howard speaking over Kim saying “that’s not what I was trying to do” and she then speaks over him to repeat the point and drive it home. I’ve only ever seen arguments portrayed with people speaking over each other in Friday Night Lights and it’s much more real than waiting for the other person to finish. Rhea was incredible in this particular scene but Patrick was so brilliantly subtle too. His body language, head down, shocked at the realisation he screwed up. Even though he told her he doesn’t care what she thinks, the “alright Kim, what can I do to make it better” shows he does care about what she thinks of him and his choices.
"I KNOW Jimmy, and you're wrong." Welp, my dear, Howard was NOT. WRONG.
3:40 That's bullshit. Howard was the one who saw Chuck's body. He made the funeral arraignment, Jimmy didn't have to lift a finger. Chuck pushed his wife out of his life, howard and Jimmy are the only people in his life.
Agreed. Kim is railing at Howard, but her fury is mostly directed at Chuck (who obviously is no longer available for her to confront).
In a way, I feel like she's taking advantage of Howard's essential decency, since she knows that he feels some guilt, justifiably or not.
And this is a moment Kim became a karen
"do you have any idea how insulting that is?"
"you wouldn't be okay with it..."
"wouldn't i?"
i think kim is just sick of people telling her what she is and isn't, and that's fair enough.
No one sees her they jus see what they want to see of her, that’s apart of what makes her arc great
"I make my own decision for my owns reasons" is my favourite quote of Kim
Which is why I think Kim will be very proactive after what happened in episode 6x07
She is controlled by Jimmy, that’s what’s happening, get ready for the tragedy fellas 😂😂😂😂
@@LSR_30 tragedy forsure but I think more so because she saw Jimmy’s side as the truth and will want out not because she was brainwashed by him per say
It must sting even more when they're right.
It’s amazing how I went from hating Howard to even still feeling bad for him and him being one of my favorite characters. I really wish he would have just been honest and said “Chuck is making me do it.”
"Hey lets let jimmy dig around the fire-damaged wreck where his brother died SCREAMING"
HITS EVERY TIME
"Here's to hoping she yells at him some more in season 6!" in the description
That did not aged well. Poor Howard... 😢
"You know who really knew Jimmy? Chuck." Perfect comeback for Howard there at the end. And he was right.
Howard is one of the only genuinely respectable characters in the entire show. An honorable man that just gets kicked in the nuts over and over again in every aspect of his life.
Chuck already knew Jimmy was Saul, he’d known his whole life. In fact he was so sure he turned Jimmy into Saul himself
jimmy was always saul.
only charles lindbergh mcgill gave him leverage by letting him be a lawyer.
"Here's to hoping she yells at him some more in season 6!"
*howard, i think you need to leave*
This show doesn't pass the Bechdel Test. Every time these girls talk it's about Jimmy!
Howard has been my favorite bcs character for a long time ;( ...
Kim: "Jimmy you should see a therapist"
Also Kim: "No Howard, you're wrong. Jimmy doesn't need help."
Reminder that Howard paid off her law school debt when she left HHM
Reminder that Howard crapped all over her before she left HHM after taking Mesa Verde away from her and sticking her in the basement. As soon as he used her to get Mesa Verde s account, he dismissed her. Just because he's dead doesn't mean he was a good guy.
@K. Kelly He was a dick boss yeah but he was trying to better himself, he also wasn’t in the game associated with thieves and killers
He was far better person than that scumbag Kim
And also she wrote a check for the balance of the loan and Howard ripped up the check. I guess you forgot about that.
In the end it doesn’t matter, Howard is dead and Jimmy and Kim is left to clean up the scene
Deaths in Season 6:
1. Nacho Varga
2. Howard Hamlin
3. Lalo Salamanca
4. Jimmy McGill
Now that the finale has passed, 4 is actually Saul Goodman. He might be in person now, but Jimmy is now free
Howard was such a standup solid guy who you’d want in your corner. I hope gene gets what’s coming
Howard and Kim scenes always stuck with me.
I like the expression on Howard's face at the end of the first scene. Not only does he regret being rude to Kim, he hates not telling her the truth about Chuck voting against Jimmy, not him.
Howard is such a great character. He was the too-obvious villain, when in fact he's one of the only virtuous people on the whole show.
See, what I love about this, especially now with the context of season 6, what I love about this scene where Kim confronts Howard for telling Jimmy that he thinks Chuck killed himself - it's that Howard was (obviously) completely correct, yet Kim's outwardly justifiable and fair outrage is in context actually not at all fair. Howard was the one who took much more responsibility than he was due for what happened, while Jimmy took none. And Kim, in her righteous anger, ends up as the enabler (at this point arguably unknowingly) for Jimmy's very worst instincts and behaviours. She's almost talking herself into creating a narrative around Howard and how much he deserves her disdain - and in the end, look where that got her.
It’s sad because as far as we know, Kim never found out that Jimmy is the one who screwed up Chuck’s insurance, OR about what Chuck’s final words to Jimmy were. There were layers of miscommunication and suppressed emotions, and Kim, while still guilty of enabling Jimmy’s worst moments, never realized the full scope of the story.
I just… I just had to know, what were you thinking? What were you thinking when you came to Cheryl on the day of her husband’s (Howard’s) memorial and laid that shit on her? That Howard was doing cocaine in the middle of the night? and ultimately killed himself. What’s wrong with you?
I thought… I thought I owed it to her to tell her.
Owed it to her? You did it to get away with it. So you could get away with killing Howard Hamlin. Who cares what it does to Cheryl right? As long as Kim Wexler is ok.
What can I do to make it right?
Nothing. There’s nothing you can do.
"I don't know a Joe dog, or a tugboat.."
Really loved how he handled Kim in the first scene, like a boss…professional and to the point
I love how BrBa and BCS always make you see things better in retrospect.... You have to watch the series more than once to understand it in Hein sight ✌️😍🇦🇺😎
It's clips like these that help remind me why Kim had so much 'fun' with Howard..
Hence, 'Fun and games'
Howard is the most abused character in the entire show. It actually hurts to watch it a second time around.
5:38 the way she bursts into laughter...
I was looking for the scene where Howard puts her on doc review and it is not in here.
i was mainly just aiming to show clips where the two are yelling at each other, what episode was that in?
@@donaminta You should definitely put the scene from 'Slip' where Howard is insulted by Kim repaying him and they have a fight in the parking entrance
Also the scene where she quits HHM in 'Fifi' and they scramble for mesa verde
Kim should have won THE DAMN EMMY! FOR THE SECOND ACT
1:22 “becus hes my fren”
SPOILERS FOR SEASON 6 -
It’s wild to me how Howard’s death made me see things so clearly from his side. In his death scene, before he was shot, I was chucking at how bewildered he was the whole time. I was just dumbfounded at Jimmy and Kim’s plan and how well it worked. And then the true consequences unfold, and there’s nothing you can do except explore how things really got to that point. It’s very rare when one episode of a show makes you view everything that came before it entirely different.
He do be kinda chucking tho
The intended consequences were to mess with Howard’s career.
@@Mikehowarth1988 and those subsequent consequences brought forth Saul Goodman
chucking haha
Man Howard is just everyone's fuck boy. He has EVERYONES back and EVERYONE fails to see it. They bullied him and leveraged him into doing stuff for everyone and those same people turn around and use him as a door mat. He definitely didn't deserve ANYTHING that befell him in the series. He literally dead for no reason
You missed the one where Kim writes him a check for almost 15K to pay Howard back for putting her through law school through HHM and he refuses it and tears it up in her face.
Tbh yeah that scene with the check is one of the biggest moments between the two of them in the entire show
It's crazy how different Kim is when putting clips for season 1 next to 5, she really was Slippin Kimmy underneath
Howard does not deserve what Kim did to him
Howard: alright Kim what can I do make it better?
Kim: nothing! there is nothing you can do just stay away or you will be one sorry individual.
“Yo”
My name is kim wexler yo
Cartel shot my boy…yo…🙂🥲😥😰🥹😭
howard the real goat in the show
Her pony tail is up every time, it’s subtle but it clearly brings out another side of her when it’s up.
The cartel side of this show is pretty good but to me the essence of Better Call Saul is in these characters (and ofc Jimmy, Chuck etc). Their feelings and motivations and who is in the right/wrong are so ambiguous at times
the more I rewatch BCS the more I realize Howard was just a tough boss. Tough but ultimately reasonable
i wished the vid kept the part where howard told kim to close the door after saying he didnt care.
Howard is the best man. One of my favorites of this universe. His journey and character development is amazing.
Looking back at them. Theres obvious gaslighting by Kim, even when Howard mentions that Jimmy is out of control, and it makes no sense to drop Mesa Verde. Kim was having a kick out of all the fun she was having, it only took what happened in Season 6 to learn she and Jimmy were poison for others
4:20 - if only Howard would've listened...
I’m with Howard. It’s not the point that he’s avoiding telling Kim about Chuck being so cruel, it’s nothing to do with Kim why Jimmy isn’t allowed in on the sandpiper case. It’s not her place to be asking and Howard tries really hard to be polite but she just keeps pushing. He wasn’t being selfish about his theory on chuck either, she’s just a very unlovable stuck up character. SPOILERS : could the show end in a worse way too? She does all that and gets no punishment at all? WHAT A SICK JOKE!!
What's great about this show (and Breaking Bad) is the way it shows the context of the behavior of the characters. The way that Jimmy and Kim tried to ruin Howard's life (and ultimately, unintentionally, caused him to be killed) is truly despicable. But the cold, pompous way that he had treated them before that provides context for their behavior.
No, they treated him the way they did because they are toxic, broken children who project all of their resentment of the world onto the man who was most good to them. Howard literally helped put Kim through law school. He also didn’t press charges against Jimmy for property damage despite the “prank” being in response to a generous job offer. Normal, well-adjusted people do not treat a man like Howard the way they did. It’s their own personal issues that clouded their judgment. That’s the context people should have been holding onto when seeing all the harassment, bullying, and character-assassination those two sorry individuals put the poor guy through.
She deserved so much more credit for her performance
Now do all Howard vs. Lalo scenes
This comment should be pinned
Who, watching Season 1, could've ever guessed that this man's death would arguably be the saddest in the entire Breaking Bad-Better Call Saul universe? Sadder than Chuck's, Gale's, Andrea's, Jane's, or Nacho's, in my opinion.
You forgot about the argument outside of the valet
Oh, that first scene - without the "Wait, close the door" - is severely undermined.
As much as I love Kim, I can't help but see her as the villain in the last scenes. Howard was genuine and tried to do what he could to tell the truth but in the end, he gets spurned and shafted.
Hahaha oh man, good times, good times. You know it looks bad now, but years from now we'll all look back on these days and laugh.
Except Howard.
1:56 “duly noted”. Same thing that Howard’s wife said to him in S6. He knows how to shut down a conversation because it happens to him on a daily basis, only in Howard’s case it’s because of circumstances out of his control, Chuck already decided Jimmy was out. Howard gets wrongly put into antagonistic positions because that’s all he can do when caught in the middle of Chuck and Jimmy. All he ever does is try to do his job, and he’s continually forced to play the bad guy against his own character. He knows how much those words can hurt. What an incredibly tragic character
I just realised Howard’s name rhymes with coward
YOOO I WAS LITERALLY ABOUT TO LOOK UP A HOWARD COMP AND BOOM THERE IT WAS FIRST THING ON MY PAGE LETS GOOOO
Patrick Fabian is awesome in this show
It may look like Kim is getting Ws from these but it’s really the opposite. Howard was the man they really did dirty to him and their lives were ruined for doing that.
In the first argue (Even tho it's not shown) I like how Howard tries so hard to be the a-hole in order to protect his friend's secret, yet at the last moment the words of kim "because he's my friend" clearly resonate with his relationship with chuck.. because he knows Jimmy doesn't deserve it at this point in the story.
I absolutely love the small details that clearly show Howard as the most honorable character in the lawyer side of the story,
My two favorite characters on the show and it made me so sad whenever they got mad at each other 😭
Howard was the finest man in the show.
About the bowling bowls and prostitutes... Howard told it to Jimmy, Jimmy told him he was unhinged. Then he told it to Kim, and Kim laughed her (cute) arse off. No surprise Howard was a little baffled. Fact is, Jimmy "revenge pranks" on Howard were so... childish, immature, anybody would laugh at Howard. I wonder if that was a deliberate move by Jimmy ? making pranks on Howard, so immature, nobody would ever belive a grown man could make them ? And thus would tell Howard "this cannot be, no adult would ever do that ! "
“….but YOOOUUU!!! One of the most promising human beings I’ve ever met…”
Me when my wife tells me I've been drinking too much: 1:54
>Here's to hoping she yells at him some more in season 6!
AAUUUUGGGHHH
Lalo: I'm gonna stop you right there!
What’s wild is that there is more than this.
"One last screw you little brother from beyond the grave?" Did anyone else crack up from that? I was so into her amazing performance and the drama of it all but that really was dark comic relief for me in the midst of a chilling monologue.
Poor Howard. He was so nice to everyone, yet everybody upset him. Gentleman didn't even recieve a respectful funeral.