A brief example of historical art-plagiarism.

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  • Опубликовано: 7 апр 2024
  • A Yank in 1772 draws a Wampanoag from 1672 after the style of a Mohawk in England who has been dressed by a Dutchman in 1710.
    It was uncanny looking at this engraving as I have previously spent considerable time analyzing the source material.
    Another bit of weirdness I just noticed is the sleeves, one is buttoned and the other not, because he has taken the arms from two different people.

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  • @spaguettoltd.7933
    @spaguettoltd.7933 3 месяца назад +7

    Paul Revere was a notorious huckster (in his own time). He was also a lousy silversmith and a cowardly general. He now enjoys folk hero status cause Henry Wadsworth Longfellow liked the rhythm structure of his name better than that of the other, more-successful alarm riders who warned the hinterland of the British movements on the night of April 18th, 1775.

    • @JessmanChicken86
      @JessmanChicken86 3 месяца назад +2

      I've often had this feeling, that I could never prove, that historical figures with great names get more recognition than those with awkward names. Just one example of many: "Adam Smith" offered nothing new to economics, despite being heralded today as a great contributor. Meanwhile, "Richard Cantillon" and "Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk" get almost no fame.

  • @lusolad
    @lusolad 3 месяца назад +9

    They weren't all Haudenosaunee. One was Mahican ( Etowaukoam)

    • @MalcolmPL
      @MalcolmPL  3 месяца назад +9

      Yes, the name of the event is wrong on every level, they weren't all Mohawk, they weren't kings and there were five not four. It is nevertheless the name of the event.

  • @trikepilot101
    @trikepilot101 3 месяца назад +7

    I like all your videos.

  • @michaelmanning5379
    @michaelmanning5379 3 месяца назад +8

    A history graduate student once "schooled" me when I pointed out that the period B&W image accompanying a newspaper story about James Wolfe was clearly not Wolfe. I cited the double chin and problems with details in his uniform. Even if Wolfe had not been dying of tuberculosis, he famously had a noticeably weak chin. "This is a famous image", I was told, "Known by all history scholars."
    While clearly NOT Wolfe, the image DOES resemble Montcalm. I suspect that some canny 18th C. printer simply changed the name on the print to save paying for a new and accurate engraving.
    Along similar lines, an Elizabethan printer used the same wood cut to illustrate both Robin Hood and real-life Yorkshire outlaw Adam Bell.

  • @Water_is_Sacred777
    @Water_is_Sacred777 2 месяца назад

    The de-construction of Native imagery (for financial gain and to re-vise history) is a subject that has always fascinated me. The example you use here is perfect to make that point. I saw staged "Wild West Indian" photos when I worked as a tech at the photo archive at my university. The genuine historians who recorded Native images in the past, which were few, must have found this type of thing appalling. One would hope...
    I took university courses on the stereotyping of American Indians in film as part of a Native American studies series. The take away for me as a Latina/Native woman was the archetype of the "Native Princess". I learned early how Native women have always been fetishized- and sadly, sometime they do it to themselves for clout. To see images of tribal Kings being manipulated is disturbing as well.

  • @anonymousthesneaky220
    @anonymousthesneaky220 3 месяца назад +1

    This is not really relevant, but I haven't been able to find a good solution, so I figured I'd ask you. I have been wanting to try deer bow hunting for a while, as it is very sustainable (at least in my area), and since I make a lot of knapped arrows and whatnot, it would be a good way to source materials. I also love spending time in the woods, backpacking, hiking, etc. The problem is, I don't know where to start, and I don't really get along with any hunters in my area, for a couple of reasons, which can most likely be guessed, but I will not mention them. I was wondering if you'd be willing to offer any advice? Thanks!

    • @MalcolmPL
      @MalcolmPL  3 месяца назад +3

      I don't have anything helpful to say. I'm not a hunter.

    • @anonymousthesneaky220
      @anonymousthesneaky220 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MalcolmPL Ok. I had made the assumption off of something from the historical vegetarianism video. Thanks anyways!

  • @MossyMozart
    @MossyMozart 3 месяца назад

    Mr Malcolm P.L - I'm wondering if you have any opinion of the various portraits of Joseph Brant. They make him look so different, one from the other.

    • @MalcolmPL
      @MalcolmPL  3 месяца назад +1

      I think the best are the famous one by George Romney, and the one by Ezra Ames where he is in his sixties. Both contain recognizable Six Nations facial features, and I can see the same person between them.
      The Romney one in particular is a masterful piece of art in it's own right, if you're ever at the national gallery it is well worth checking out. Like a lot of art, the photos on the internet don't do it justice, the real painting is electric.

  • @IVangridI
    @IVangridI 3 месяца назад +1

    Maybe he just looked like that. Big head included.

  • @tryllon4774
    @tryllon4774 3 месяца назад

    Dali once said “Bad artists copy, good artists steal.” :D He was a brute. Differentiating between taking inspiration and outright stealing is muddy. What may matter is what the creator feels in his heart. I don't know, I find myself in this dilemma sometimes. I study master's works but I don't show them to other people. In the end, human learns from nature and learning from a human, when careful, is acceptable in my book.

    • @tryllon4774
      @tryllon4774 3 месяца назад +1

      This guy you showed is different though, funny even :D

    • @EPWillard
      @EPWillard День назад

      copying master-works is a fairly standard practice in art schools if that makes you feel better

  • @blaf55
    @blaf55 3 месяца назад

    wack