Perhaps the next theorem video could be why move sets (like mix attacking, fast physical, bulky special, etc) are close to everything or the Dragonite theorem
@@zdelrod829 the Flareon therom describes Pokemon in regards to moves they’re missing or have too many, the Dragonite therom would describe how the Pokemon found success with changing the moves they had
@@e94youtubeTwo things can be true at once. This says that it's perfectly valid to like a pokémon simply because it hits hard. It's not my favorite, but I like Amoonguss because it becomes absolutely terrifying when you use Skill Swap to give it Prankster.
I’m fortunate that my favourite Pokémon is Gardevoir, and her plethora of coverage moves, access to Choice Scarf for 120 base speed and decent 125 special attack makes her a reliable revenge killer. Especially when paired with Ground and Dark allies to cover her Poison and Ghost weaknesses. She loves Excadrill and Hisuian Zoroark, who can safely switch into her checks and threaten them in turn. Choice Scarf is also optional, since she can also use either Choice Specs for wallbreaking potential, Focus Sash to set up a Calm Mind safely, or Assault Vest to make her unkillable to any unboosted special attacker. She is so damn versatile.
The mark of a skilled player is one that recognises the advantages and disadvantages of bad Pokemon to find a niche they can fill. But to get to that level of playing can require a lot of time, studying, and practice, something a lot of unskilled players fail to understand.
A great example of this is the "Probopass OU team" that also reached the second place in the ladder. Why use a passive wall with many heavy weaknesses? Because it has Magnet Pull, Body Press and a massive 140 base defense, meaning that if played carefully it can turn into the best thing to put your opponent's Kingambit out of commission.
And also to keep the "bad" part of the team limited. The video touches on it a bit, but most people who hear "really strong trainers win with their favorites" won't take it as "I'll take this one and build a top tier team around it to try and make it work", but as "I'll use _nothing_ but my faves". Unfortunately, that doesn't work all that well, as the power of friendship is not really a reliable stat.
I actually did try this back in gen 8 OU with jellicent. I mainly did it because funny pringles squid. And then I found out that it was actually pretty good. Turns out when Urshifu rapid is punching thing into oblivion like akuma from street fighter. Having an auxiliary check to it is great……..even though toxapex was by all accounts and purposes better
Personal favourite is Mudsdale in Gen 8. Ground max for special defence and Stamina for physical defense, plus body press could make it a nuisance to get rid of.
Well I used Primeape in my Gen 6 OU team consisting Primeape, Empoleon, Mega Aerodactyl, Darmanitan, Diggersby and Cofagrigus and reached the ladder starting from 1000 on Showdown. Choice Scarf Primeape with defiant and ice punch used to get so many surprise KOs on Landorus-Ts that were everywhere. And its u-turns and close combats came in handy too. Sometimes it would get 3-4 KOs ending the match.😊
This is what makes draft leagues fun. They make you actually use those weaker Pokémon and make you bring out their strength and synergy with your draft.
@@happymoomoocow Oh don't begin with that excuse when the competitive community hates Landorus and Incineroar Even if theres people use them or the people who ragequit cuz they suck on use those mons
In the 2014 I messed around with mega heracross + support talonflame. Tons of fun got me some premier events and that was all I wanted from the teams that included that duo
Funny thing about Moltres is that, not only did it have a legitimate niche in gens 1-3 OU, but much later in gen 9, Moltres is actually one of the top picks in the SV OU metagame because a defensive flame body set is frustratingly hard for Zamazenta and Great Tusk to deal with if they lack rock-type coverage, as they hate getting burned, and flame body can also seriously punish U-Turn users like Rillaboom as well as Dragonite, Kingambit, and Ogerpon-W, the latter of which it can deal with if it runs tera grass, which can also help it against electrics like Raging Bolt. Not to mention it can learn Roar to phase setup sweepers.
I been seeing weirdly success with abamasnow in the current scarlet and violet as my aurora veil setter. It works surprisingly well, and especially so as the weather disrupter I purposely made it to be. I'm genuinely happy I can bring it to the ladder and have fun with it, especially pairing with glimmora so each can help resist the other's weakness
I always used Typhlosion in doubles on sun teams. I almost never see anyone use it but now in the current vgc season people are finally using it. Makes me so happy to see it.
I would now like an explanation on how to find out what something is good or bad against lol. That was sort of the cornerstone of the video, but wasn't explained very much.
my absolute favorite "bad" pokemon to bring into competitive scenes are trap/stall levitate weezing, and speedy pivot kantonian raichu with fake out and volt switch. But tbh, I'm always experimenting outside of the tier I'm working with. I particularly like the philosophy behind monotype teams, because they tend to bring me out of my comfort zone of known powerful pokemon. Not that it's low tier by any means, but I've been taking empoleon into ubers on showdown as part of a pseudo-f/w/g trio on a steel type team, and I've found that the man can check scarf kyogre with a good predict or free switch after baiting water spout.
I did fool around a little bit with "worse" pokemon like 1 time I just built a team in Gen 7 (specifically 7) where every pokemon brought two unique immunities to the team in some way which made me just love harvest/sub/leech seed/Trevenant and Recyle/Sub Klefki with (don't know which berry I used but) one of the berries that healed 50% in Gen 7. That thing (kind of) had a prankster Recover but most of the time I tried some stupidly gimicky sets on common pokemon. Like my Mega Latias in a Hazard stacking team which used Rest/Sleep Talk/Psycho Shift/Roar Rest up any damage = you sleep You Sleep = You go sleep Talk You Go sleep Talk = Rest and you cry/Psycho Shift and your opponent is sleeping with 100% accuracy/Roar you get hazard damage on your opponent with 110 base speed because you used Sleep Talk and not Roar. And I also had Sticky web in there for that exact reason. I'm a very nice human being :>
A few years ago I tried to make a bdsp Bibarel team work in OU. I wound up using Cradily because it plugged some of the holes I had on my team (I think being a stealth rocker who could handle Manaphy and Suicune), and in the end it turned into a wonky offensive Cradily team where I got a 10 match win streak
I'm glad the "the other 5 need to be good" section brought up Pachi -- this is basically the application of the Pachirisu theorem without using quite such a noted example of "why bad/off-meta mons can be made to work"
I love perish trap altaria its sadly VERY metagame dependant though It needs walls like ferrothorn and toxapex in the meta Ones who don't have much damage and can't pivot. It's a stall breaker stall mon
My fav pokemon is Slowbro and I love seeing him grow in popularity AT LEAST once every 2 years with something either broken, or completely stupid. Remember block/heal pulse/slack off/recycle slowbro?
The whole logic of good mons carrying "bad" ones is exactly why a mon's subjective healthiness should be considered before how objectively overpowered it is. Lando-t in gens 5-7 OU is the best example. New or purposefully ignorant players hated it because they saw it everywhere and thought it was broken. Experienced and skilled players loved it because the role compression made those gens, especially gen 7 in my opinion, famous for being able to slap whatever meme mon you wanted on your team and still consistently win because of how well the best mons, like lando, compressed necessary roles. Its why a non-overpowered mon like Gholdengo is unhealthy because it messes with that balance. Mons that enabled fantastic and consistent role compression (most notably Corviknight) now become a matchup fish. We enter the cycle of the problem mon falling off because the only mons to fill the role anyone wants to use are the few that beat it somewhat consistently and people think its no longer a problem anymore. National Dex, even with its substantially higher power level which Gholdengo didnt benefit all that much from, made the correct decision in banning it.
I loved Mightyena since Gen3. I've defeated several strong fighting types using my Mightyena. Terastilize made this easier for Mightyena to achieve. Back then during Gen 6, i had to run a defensive set with Counter + Chopple Berry to surprise my opponents. In Gen 7, Mightyena finally got a more offensive option with Z-Play Rough or Z-Dig for Fire/Fighting types. Sadly, Counter was a Gen3 move tutor and no longer obtainable.
Funny how this video came out right when i put together a new team for Violet and have been destroying teams online with a specs Raichu and Screens/Leech Seed tanky meganium. I've had A LOT of rage quits.
That reminds me of the guy who showed up this year to worlds with a Scraggy >Intimidate >Slower than Caly Ice in Trick room (it's good as being both a partner and a counter) >Coaching >Foul Play >Depetively very tanky with Eviolite
Guess I'm somewhat lucky Archeops is my favourite 'Mon. Sure, its ability holds it back, but it can definitely take someone by surprise by obliterating something before it falls into Defeatist range.
"Truly skilled trainers should try to win with the Pokemon they love best. And by being way overleveled." ~ Karen if you didn't walk away before she finished talking.
I think one thing thats always important to look at is how many pokemon that used to be menaces drop 2 or 3 tiers over time. The pokemon itself didn't get worse, but the meta became more hostile to it. You find tons of pokemon that are objectively amazing in lower tiers because they just don't fit into the overall "meta" of the higher tiers. Tierlist brain can be terminal. If a pokemon looks great to you, there's no harm in trying it out. Unless its weak to stealth rock, in which case you should just give up and save yourself the pain. Whoever decided stealth rock would apply weakness/resistance is my number one enemy, like genuinely why did you feel the need to beat down MORE on bug and ice types?
I was actually one of the first people to try out defensive Houndstone in PU because I wanted to make Zangoose work so badly again in PU. It was before the Indigo Disk DLC came out, and I was looking for a spinblocker for my Hazard Stacking Zangoose team that had a good matchup against Morpeko, the most common spinner in PU, doing that was quite the challenge due to Morpeko's dark typing and after days of testing I found out Houndstone not only could take on Morpeko but also that almost NOTHING in the tier could do much against it, he was even good against setup sweepers because of Roar and Will-o-Wisp. The Houndstone name was Grave Mistake and he pretty much glued the strategy together, after some optimizations it ended up being a surprisingly strong team and best of all, it made Zangoose actually work again in PU.
Imagine hypothetically gamefreak gave Luxray a Mega that's Electric/Ice and buffed it's speed and offense, with maube a minor defensive buff for the snow defense boost All as a reference to that Luxray that made everyone cry in the anime
Very cool idea. To be honest, even in the era of the internet, let us be real on this fact of an average low to middle income gamer. It is a case of time management to learn and master the strengths and weaknesses of a pokemon. Then add it to the team that compensates it. But there is another type of challenge to this concept. It is one thing to have one favorite to go alongside a high tier team as shown in this video. But what if you want a team that has All six of your favorites AND They all have to be together? Moreso than ever, what if ALL 6 pokemon are non qualified for the higher tiers as a team because only one or two are qualified but the rest sucks?
I actually used guts Luxray for a short period of time because It is the only guts Pokémon that knows psychic fangs. I later dropped Luxray because of the low base power of its physical move however.
I'm new to the competitive gave and I would like to make a team using: Cloyster Starmie Omastar Kingler Raichu Vileplume Context: I'm playing with my friends and we're all using random Kanto pokemon, we can't repeat pokemon in our teams (for example, I'm the only one who can use a cloyster), and we're playing in the 5th generation. How can I make it viable?
This video is the epitome of Blunder having a featured mon in a vid and sacking it every damn game but still having a title like “ARBOLIVA TAKES THE AGENCY TO THE TOP (1850+)”
In VGC I currently like using Umbreon because there's too much psyspam. The over-reliance on that strategy has lead to a few humorous situation where opponents were left unable to win thanks to Umbreon being able to tank long enough to get them down to just Indeedee lol, plus I use it more as an enabler who's annoying for one of the 2 most used strategies (Other being Arch rain, which I have counters for on other mon)
Entei is probably my favorite unconventional pokemon to use, it's really interesting cuz u would think it's really easy to wall but it feels like it is very consistently able to force progress thanks to sacred fire being very hard to switch into, Entei also has great bulk and it can stick around for a while to make use of it thanks to boots, and of course u can't forget the amazing utility of extreme speed. From being the worst it feels like today it's keeping up the best compared to it's counterparts, I strongly recommend u try it if you're reading this comment
is it bad i used drifblim and later physically defensive mismagius to specifically punish a dude who used extreme killer arc that ran recover over shadow claw, managed to make it to an endgame where it was drifblim against arceus, he gave up and forfeited after an hour of pp usage and a LOT of rage (timer didnt exist in that niche competitive group), funnily enough he never replaced recover or any other move with shadow claw.
Any pokemon can work if you use it as sack in first three turns before switching to your Lando-T/Kingambit/Gliscor/Kyurem/Whatever: The Blunder Theorem
I lost to a trick room team who used Sentret(base evolution of Furret), who endeavor’ed my Archaludon, and outsped my Clefairy’s after you under trick room and KO’ed it 😅
Did this with Charjabug of all things in Reg G, thing was annoying as to anyone fighting it and took at least 2-3 hits from every restricted that wasn’t either super effective or Kyogre water spout, and it still had a pretty good roll to live the big fish
i unironically thought of using shell armor grotle during reg G as an urshi counter and wide guard user, but put it down because why tf was i gonna do with grotle now thanks to this video i will be using grotle when reg I rolls around, Thanks FSG!
I genuinely believe that in Gen 1's singular Special stat, Ledian could have been something. It can tank Special hits and deliver coverage with punches and Psybeam, not to mention screens. Alas it was not meant to be.
And that's how I made an insane team of 6 Dunsparce all with different moves for the sole purpose of defeating a 6-Falinks team in Gen8 (and it worked... somehow)
one thing i realy enjoy on showdown is making a bad team (Not even good for PU ETC) and bringing it to ou, uber or ag. sure i lose a lot but i do win some to, and it was always fun when i was bringing my lipeard set and run into one of those players that gets so salty and refuses so switch out and lose their boosts to your encore copycat shananigens hahaha. even worked aigenst players that dynamaxed in gen 8 since another staple was imposter ditto so was able to get all the boosts later on (oh and ditto was using sash instead of scar so i managed to catch several people of guard with that to since they was expecting scarf ditto and then sudenly ditto uses another move instead of switching out)
Perhaps the next theorem video could be why move sets (like mix attacking, fast physical, bulky special, etc) are close to everything or the Dragonite theorem
I like to use espeon in my OU team because its my favorite pokemon and he can be real good sometimes because of magic bounce and his speed, but its so frail that would die to almost any physical hit
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Perhaps the next theorem video could be why move sets (like mix attacking, fast physical, bulky special, etc) are close to everything or the Dragonite theorem
@@playersnake see The Flareon Theorem
Call this video what it is. It's the Karen Theroem.
@@zdelrod829 the Flareon therom describes Pokemon in regards to moves they’re missing or have too many, the Dragonite therom would describe how the Pokemon found success with changing the moves they had
Someone tell me how to make Dusknoir viable
eviolite dusclops
Hes the only ghost who can simple beam and trap
You need to use lore accurate dusknoir so you can steal your opponent's soul and win.
Ice punch, no one will expect it
Ice Punch an unsuspecting Lando-T
So true landorus can never beat ice punch dusknoir
Lets hope on a crit with that one.
The king of OU ain't living through this strat
It's funny seeing Floatzel classified as bad like it wasn't a menace in pre dlc gen 9.
I remember it fondly
"Truly skilled Trainers should try to win with the Pokemon they love best. A Flutter Mane doesn't hurt though." ~Karen
Just forget Karen's words, she herself said "I like Dark mons bcoz they are strong". Also use whatever mons u want & whatever strategies u want
@@e94youtubeTwo things can be true at once. This says that it's perfectly valid to like a pokémon simply because it hits hard.
It's not my favorite, but I like Amoonguss because it becomes absolutely terrifying when you use Skill Swap to give it Prankster.
@@TwiliPaladin Yeah they can, my point is that U shouldn't take her words seriously
Me with my favorites incineroar , great tusks and ogerpon: 🗿
@@tomasturbando9836Me when one of my favorites is the PokeGod 🗿
Kinda wish luxray could learn aleast hone claws
There are so many moves and abilities that would make luxury amazing. Sadly, Nintendo doesn't want it to be.
Trailblaze was a start! Nice move on Luxray in competitive
@@vla1ne you mean gamefreak/pokemom company
Just give physical electric types zing zap its right there
@@bathilra5364 yeah but aleast supercell slam works as a good physical electric move for her from now
I’m fortunate that my favourite Pokémon is Gardevoir, and her plethora of coverage moves, access to Choice Scarf for 120 base speed and decent 125 special attack makes her a reliable revenge killer. Especially when paired with Ground and Dark allies to cover her Poison and Ghost weaknesses. She loves Excadrill and Hisuian Zoroark, who can safely switch into her checks and threaten them in turn. Choice Scarf is also optional, since she can also use either Choice Specs for wallbreaking potential, Focus Sash to set up a Calm Mind safely, or Assault Vest to make her unkillable to any unboosted special attacker. She is so damn versatile.
Most reasonable Gardevoir fan on the internet 😅
Lets see you guys make Gumshoo's work!
Gumshoos fills the niche of Former President of the United States of America
If it knows one phase move, pair with a follow me or rage powder user. Hammer pokemon with damage from stake out and entry hazards
The mark of a skilled player is one that recognises the advantages and disadvantages of bad Pokemon to find a niche they can fill. But to get to that level of playing can require a lot of time, studying, and practice, something a lot of unskilled players fail to understand.
A great example of this is the "Probopass OU team" that also reached the second place in the ladder.
Why use a passive wall with many heavy weaknesses? Because it has Magnet Pull, Body Press and a massive 140 base defense, meaning that if played carefully it can turn into the best thing to put your opponent's Kingambit out of commission.
And also to keep the "bad" part of the team limited. The video touches on it a bit, but most people who hear "really strong trainers win with their favorites" won't take it as "I'll take this one and build a top tier team around it to try and make it work", but as "I'll use _nothing_ but my faves". Unfortunately, that doesn't work all that well, as the power of friendship is not really a reliable stat.
I knew it! I can finally use my Choice Scarf Slowbro competitively!
That is actually usable in defensive team , choice scarf + trick
I actually did try this back in gen 8 OU with jellicent. I mainly did it because funny pringles squid. And then I found out that it was actually pretty good.
Turns out when Urshifu rapid is punching thing into oblivion like akuma from street fighter. Having an auxiliary check to it is great……..even though toxapex was by all accounts and purposes better
Anything with an immunity can never be fully irrelevant.
3 resistances if youre water absorb@@maxspecs
its… its a jellyfish
@@tomgorey9294 "your surging strikes only make me stronger, foolish bear"
@@worm7064well now I feel like an idiot
Moltres also got pretty good apperently in gen 9 xD
Some guy managed to make it to the number 2 elo in gen 9 OU with probopass since it has the ability to trap and remove kingambit.
Absolute 🗿
imagine a kingambit bringing low kick just for that matchup
another 5 years of competitive pokemon discourse 🔥
Personal favourite is Mudsdale in Gen 8.
Ground max for special defence and Stamina for physical defense, plus body press could make it a nuisance to get rid of.
Karen: Based dark type user and quote maker.
I like seeing Pinkacross in these types of videos, you can really tell he knows his stuff!
Caterpie works very well by the way
See yall in a month for "why every pokemon cant work (the meganium theorem)
I will never stop trying to make Flygon viable.
Well I used Primeape in my Gen 6 OU team consisting Primeape, Empoleon, Mega Aerodactyl, Darmanitan, Diggersby and Cofagrigus and reached the ladder starting from 1000 on Showdown. Choice Scarf Primeape with defiant and ice punch used to get so many surprise KOs on Landorus-Ts that were everywhere. And its u-turns and close combats came in handy too. Sometimes it would get 3-4 KOs ending the match.😊
This is what makes draft leagues fun. They make you actually use those weaker Pokémon and make you bring out their strength and synergy with your draft.
You could also use the example of someone winning a VGC tournament 1st place with Farfetch’d.
In generation 8 any pokemon can really work. You just go to a pokemon center and sign them up for the Poke Jobs thing.
WHERES THE CHARIZARD THEOREM?!
Aka WHY POPULAR ISNT EVERYTHING
That doesn't really play out though since dynamax zard was really good as was zard y in both singles and vgc and zard x was good in singles
charizard is actually a very good pokemon in Gen 3 OU
@@miniiore NAH IT DIES WITH A ROCK FUCKIN SUCK ASS
People hate charizard because popular thing bad but charizard has been exceptional before, just look at gigantamax
@@happymoomoocow Oh don't begin with that excuse when the competitive community hates Landorus and Incineroar Even if theres people use them or the people who ragequit cuz they suck on use those mons
understood, i will use regigigas (my favourite mon) in ubers and get laughed at by 1200 elo players
Goddamn Slow Start...
if regigas have better recovery move than rest, imagine stall regigas. spreading thunder wave and toxic everywhere while being bulky
Galarian Weezing says "join us in Doubles, Slaking is throwing a wicked party"
@@harebrainedhijinx Try Body slam, fire punch, protext substitute, tera fire, so they cant willo wisp
@@harebrainedhijinx its cool that gigas is a good choice there but also i have enough self respect to not play a meta where there's no evasion clause
Video idea: Weird and unusual battle mechanics for each of the generations.
So that means life orb solar power charizard is back in ou 😀
The Truly Skilled Theorum
Why Tiers Aren't Everything - The Electivire Theorem
They did that already. It's the Quagsire theorem
@@ChampionMarx That's "Why High Stats Aren't Everything"
In the 2014 I messed around with mega heracross + support talonflame.
Tons of fun got me some premier events and that was all I wanted from the teams that included that duo
This sounds such a dope duo 🙌
I’m gonna assume your Talonflame had Quick Guard.
Funny thing about Moltres is that, not only did it have a legitimate niche in gens 1-3 OU, but much later in gen 9, Moltres is actually one of the top picks in the SV OU metagame because a defensive flame body set is frustratingly hard for Zamazenta and Great Tusk to deal with if they lack rock-type coverage, as they hate getting burned, and flame body can also seriously punish U-Turn users like Rillaboom as well as Dragonite, Kingambit, and Ogerpon-W, the latter of which it can deal with if it runs tera grass, which can also help it against electrics like Raging Bolt. Not to mention it can learn Roar to phase setup sweepers.
My chlorophyll tera fire sunflora boutta make goldengo quiver in his boots
I been seeing weirdly success with abamasnow in the current scarlet and violet as my aurora veil setter. It works surprisingly well, and especially so as the weather disrupter I purposely made it to be. I'm genuinely happy I can bring it to the ladder and have fun with it, especially pairing with glimmora so each can help resist the other's weakness
Shoutouts to Moltres being a decent OU mon in Gen 9 thanks to Flame Body and its Fire/Flying typing
This is what I try to do. I give other mons a chance.
0:01 STILL waiting for “How Good Was Amoonguss Actually…”
Screw those ancient monsters! My team full of robots will crush them!
Time to prove that with my ideal team
(I will never play competitive)
idk man my fav is volcarona and im doing just fine
Luxray not being Dark tyoe is stupid.
In before the comments spam that one Karen quote
Now I got to try to make Gardevoir work in the higher tiers as it is one of my favorite psychic Pokémon back in gen 3
Gardevoirite is the way 💯
temp6t won with every pokemon
Too bad most of them are staged
Against alts like 99% of the time
@@I-like-beans He redeemed himself by winning with lechonk in a serious game.
I made Squakabily viable, my favorite team I ever made
Ah yes the Shitmon Theory
Why a free switch to valiant after sacking is everything
@@pmahcgop6693My favorite blunder moment of all time is watching him sack Breloom turn one of game one and immediately hover over IVal
MAKE YANMEGA GREAT AGAIN!!
(nvm it's already the best)
I always used Typhlosion in doubles on sun teams. I almost never see anyone use it but now in the current vgc season people are finally using it. Makes me so happy to see it.
aka the pacharisu theorem
Can Eviolite Braixen work? Just uh wondering...
The thumbnail is slightly cursed
it was trick ring target
This is like the Energy Ball theorum where you have to sometimes anticipate wacky coverage moves that no sane person would ever run.
I will always try to incorporate my Eviolite Wartortle (Brime) into my team. Extremely versatile and actually tanky. 💙👉🐢
I would now like an explanation on how to find out what something is good or bad against lol. That was sort of the cornerstone of the video, but wasn't explained very much.
No matter what Karin said, it is better to use Pokémon that have the proper moves and stats.
electivire video... please.... they gave him bulk up, cell slam and tera fly....
my absolute favorite "bad" pokemon to bring into competitive scenes are trap/stall levitate weezing, and speedy pivot kantonian raichu with fake out and volt switch. But tbh, I'm always experimenting outside of the tier I'm working with. I particularly like the philosophy behind monotype teams, because they tend to bring me out of my comfort zone of known powerful pokemon. Not that it's low tier by any means, but I've been taking empoleon into ubers on showdown as part of a pseudo-f/w/g trio on a steel type team, and I've found that the man can check scarf kyogre with a good predict or free switch after baiting water spout.
now tell me how to make unown work
I did fool around a little bit with "worse" pokemon like 1 time I just built a team in Gen 7 (specifically 7) where every pokemon brought two unique immunities to the team in some way which made me just love harvest/sub/leech seed/Trevenant and Recyle/Sub Klefki with (don't know which berry I used but) one of the berries that healed 50% in Gen 7. That thing (kind of) had a prankster Recover
but most of the time I tried some stupidly gimicky sets on common pokemon. Like my Mega Latias in a Hazard stacking team which used Rest/Sleep Talk/Psycho Shift/Roar
Rest up any damage = you sleep
You Sleep = You go sleep Talk
You Go sleep Talk = Rest and you cry/Psycho Shift and your opponent is sleeping with 100% accuracy/Roar you get hazard damage on your opponent with 110 base speed because you used Sleep Talk and not Roar. And I also had Sticky web in there for that exact reason.
I'm a very nice human being :>
A few years ago I tried to make a bdsp Bibarel team work in OU. I wound up using Cradily because it plugged some of the holes I had on my team (I think being a stealth rocker who could handle Manaphy and Suicune), and in the end it turned into a wonky offensive Cradily team where I got a 10 match win streak
I'm glad the "the other 5 need to be good" section brought up Pachi -- this is basically the application of the Pachirisu theorem without using quite such a noted example of "why bad/off-meta mons can be made to work"
I love perish trap altaria its sadly VERY metagame dependant though
It needs walls like ferrothorn and toxapex in the meta
Ones who don't have much damage and can't pivot.
It's a stall breaker stall mon
TL;DR run 5 actually good Pokémon and then whatever else you want for spice.
The hidden Specs Tyranitar is the most dangerous.
My fav pokemon is Slowbro and I love seeing him grow in popularity AT LEAST once every 2 years with something either broken, or completely stupid. Remember block/heal pulse/slack off/recycle slowbro?
The whole logic of good mons carrying "bad" ones is exactly why a mon's subjective healthiness should be considered before how objectively overpowered it is.
Lando-t in gens 5-7 OU is the best example. New or purposefully ignorant players hated it because they saw it everywhere and thought it was broken. Experienced and skilled players loved it because the role compression made those gens, especially gen 7 in my opinion, famous for being able to slap whatever meme mon you wanted on your team and still consistently win because of how well the best mons, like lando, compressed necessary roles.
Its why a non-overpowered mon like Gholdengo is unhealthy because it messes with that balance. Mons that enabled fantastic and consistent role compression (most notably Corviknight) now become a matchup fish. We enter the cycle of the problem mon falling off because the only mons to fill the role anyone wants to use are the few that beat it somewhat consistently and people think its no longer a problem anymore. National Dex, even with its substantially higher power level which Gholdengo didnt benefit all that much from, made the correct decision in banning it.
I loved Mightyena since Gen3.
I've defeated several strong fighting types using my Mightyena. Terastilize made this easier for Mightyena to achieve.
Back then during Gen 6, i had to run a defensive set with Counter + Chopple Berry to surprise my opponents. In Gen 7, Mightyena finally got a more offensive option with Z-Play Rough or Z-Dig for Fire/Fighting types.
Sadly, Counter was a Gen3 move tutor and no longer obtainable.
Funny how this video came out right when i put together a new team for Violet and have been destroying teams online with a specs Raichu and Screens/Leech Seed tanky meganium. I've had A LOT of rage quits.
The goat Pinkacross is here let’s go 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That reminds me of the guy who showed up this year to worlds with a Scraggy
>Intimidate
>Slower than Caly Ice in Trick room (it's good as being both a partner and a counter)
>Coaching
>Foul Play
>Depetively very tanky with Eviolite
Guess I'm somewhat lucky Archeops is my favourite 'Mon. Sure, its ability holds it back, but it can definitely take someone by surprise by obliterating something before it falls into Defeatist range.
"Truly skilled trainers should try to win with the Pokemon they love best. And by being way overleveled." ~ Karen if you didn't walk away before she finished talking.
I think one thing thats always important to look at is how many pokemon that used to be menaces drop 2 or 3 tiers over time. The pokemon itself didn't get worse, but the meta became more hostile to it. You find tons of pokemon that are objectively amazing in lower tiers because they just don't fit into the overall "meta" of the higher tiers.
Tierlist brain can be terminal. If a pokemon looks great to you, there's no harm in trying it out.
Unless its weak to stealth rock, in which case you should just give up and save yourself the pain. Whoever decided stealth rock would apply weakness/resistance is my number one enemy, like genuinely why did you feel the need to beat down MORE on bug and ice types?
I was actually one of the first people to try out defensive Houndstone in PU because I wanted to make Zangoose work so badly again in PU. It was before the Indigo Disk DLC came out, and I was looking for a spinblocker for my Hazard Stacking Zangoose team that had a good matchup against Morpeko, the most common spinner in PU, doing that was quite the challenge due to Morpeko's dark typing and after days of testing I found out Houndstone not only could take on Morpeko but also that almost NOTHING in the tier could do much against it, he was even good against setup sweepers because of Roar and Will-o-Wisp.
The Houndstone name was Grave Mistake and he pretty much glued the strategy together, after some optimizations it ended up being a surprisingly strong team and best of all, it made Zangoose actually work again in PU.
Imagine hypothetically gamefreak gave Luxray a Mega that's Electric/Ice and buffed it's speed and offense, with maube a minor defensive buff for the snow defense boost
All as a reference to that Luxray that made everyone cry in the anime
Very cool idea. To be honest, even in the era of the internet, let us be real on this fact of an average low to middle income gamer.
It is a case of time management to learn and master the strengths and weaknesses of a pokemon. Then add it to the team that compensates it.
But there is another type of challenge to this concept. It is one thing to have one favorite to go alongside a high tier team as shown in this video.
But what if you want a team that has All six of your favorites AND They all have to be together? Moreso than ever, what if ALL 6 pokemon are non qualified for the higher tiers as a team because only one or two are qualified but the rest sucks?
I actually used guts Luxray for a short period of time because It is the only guts Pokémon that knows psychic fangs. I later dropped Luxray because of the low base power of its physical move however.
I'm new to the competitive gave and I would like to make a team using:
Cloyster
Starmie
Omastar
Kingler
Raichu
Vileplume
Context: I'm playing with my friends and we're all using random Kanto pokemon, we can't repeat pokemon in our teams (for example, I'm the only one who can use a cloyster), and we're playing in the 5th generation. How can I make it viable?
This video is the epitome of Blunder having a featured mon in a vid and sacking it every damn game but still having a title like “ARBOLIVA TAKES THE AGENCY TO THE TOP (1850+)”
In VGC I currently like using Umbreon because there's too much psyspam. The over-reliance on that strategy has lead to a few humorous situation where opponents were left unable to win thanks to Umbreon being able to tank long enough to get them down to just Indeedee lol, plus I use it more as an enabler who's annoying for one of the 2 most used strategies (Other being Arch rain, which I have counters for on other mon)
Entei is probably my favorite unconventional pokemon to use, it's really interesting cuz u would think it's really easy to wall but it feels like it is very consistently able to force progress thanks to sacred fire being very hard to switch into, Entei also has great bulk and it can stick around for a while to make use of it thanks to boots, and of course u can't forget the amazing utility of extreme speed. From being the worst it feels like today it's keeping up the best compared to it's counterparts, I strongly recommend u try it if you're reading this comment
is it bad i used drifblim and later physically defensive mismagius to specifically punish a dude who used extreme killer arc that ran recover over shadow claw, managed to make it to an endgame where it was drifblim against arceus, he gave up and forfeited after an hour of pp usage and a LOT of rage (timer didnt exist in that niche competitive group), funnily enough he never replaced recover or any other move with shadow claw.
What is the competitive potential of my team? They are Vaporeon, Clefairy, Mismagius, Altaria, Butterfree, and Toxtricity.
Any pokemon can work if you use it as sack in first three turns before switching to your Lando-T/Kingambit/Gliscor/Kyurem/Whatever: The Blunder Theorem
I lost to a trick room team who used Sentret(base evolution of Furret), who endeavor’ed my Archaludon, and outsped my Clefairy’s after you under trick room and KO’ed it 😅
Did this with Charjabug of all things in Reg G, thing was annoying as to anyone fighting it and took at least 2-3 hits from every restricted that wasn’t either super effective or Kyogre water spout, and it still had a pretty good roll to live the big fish
I do appreciate thumbnails of Landorus-Therian getting bodied by lower tiered Pokémon.
Well done on another video, False Swipe Gaming!
i unironically thought of using shell armor grotle during reg G as an urshi counter and wide guard user, but put it down because why tf was i gonna do with grotle
now thanks to this video i will be using grotle when reg I rolls around, Thanks FSG!
I genuinely believe that in Gen 1's singular Special stat, Ledian could have been something. It can tank Special hits and deliver coverage with punches and Psybeam, not to mention screens. Alas it was not meant to be.
And that's how I made an insane team of 6 Dunsparce all with different moves for the sole purpose of defeating a 6-Falinks team in Gen8 (and it worked... somehow)
one thing i realy enjoy on showdown is making a bad team (Not even good for PU ETC) and bringing it to ou, uber or ag. sure i lose a lot but i do win some to, and it was always fun when i was bringing my lipeard set and run into one of those players that gets so salty and refuses so switch out and lose their boosts to your encore copycat shananigens hahaha. even worked aigenst players that dynamaxed in gen 8 since another staple was imposter ditto so was able to get all the boosts later on (oh and ditto was using sash instead of scar so i managed to catch several people of guard with that to since they was expecting scarf ditto and then sudenly ditto uses another move instead of switching out)
ironically, the pokemon I try to mess around with is ttar in gen 9 ou. I know its very much viable, but not a staple anymore.
Perhaps the next theorem video could be why move sets (like mix attacking, fast physical, bulky special, etc) are close to everything or the Dragonite theorem
Alright! If you want to use your favorite Pokémon, support him with 5 all stars and you might be able to do something.
shoulda named it the "Karen Theorem"
I like to use espeon in my OU team because its my favorite pokemon and he can be real good sometimes because of magic bounce and his speed, but its so frail that would die to almost any physical hit
Bouta beat the 2025 world championships with a wooper after this. Thanks FSG!
I think a good idea is a video about the importance of support Pokémon. Probably called the clafairy or Whimsicott thereoum
Except for Wugtrio. Was actively deadweight against things it was good against during a casual playthrough.
I've never tried competitive Pokémon but would like to use Krookodile
Anyone know the track that starts around 7min it? Sounds like a non-battle version of the frontier trainer brain theme.