Iain Lee and Justin Dealey experience homophobic abuse
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Iain Lee tries a simple experiment to see if the public have a problem with people being openly gay.
You might have heard 23 year-old Nick telling Iain how humiliated he felt when he was subjected to a torrent of homophobic abuse by a woman who followed him off the train.
What really shocked Iain was when Nick went on to say he's used to being insulted by strangers offended by him holding hands with his boyfriend in public...not kissing, smooching or cuddling...just holding hands.
So we decided to conduct a little experiment...
I find it very strange how people don't like Homosexuality "being shoved in their faces" yet you can't leave the house without seeing hetrosexuality, be that in the form of real life couples or advertisements etc. How is two people of the same sex holding hands any more "in your face" than a straight couple kissing, or a billboard of a guy and a girl draped all over each other. Bigot's have a really odd mindset.
yes!
They have a knack for obfuscation don't they? Like you say, their problem is really not the "in your face part", but the "gay" part. They're just too weak to admit it to someone else up front.
TBird4490
know what? my best friend is str8 and he is so sure of his str8ness that he never minds me kissing my boyfriend in front of him...
It's caused by arrogance of people, people who think they are better than those who just happen to have turned out being slightly different to themselves
Homophobia is just another way of displaying one's arrogance
'He doesn't obviously agree with homosexuality. It's got a stigma. He's a teenage boy.'
This is bullshit. I'm a teenager, and I fully support everyone belonging to the LGBT community.
It's nothing to do with age. It's to do with someone's ideologies and morals. There's no excuse for Homophobia.
I regularly hang out with my best friend and his boyfriend, and if I see anyone looking at them in disgust, I stare right back at them until they start feeling uncomfortable and stop staring. If they were a heterosexual couple, no one would glance twice.
support mental people isn't the way! just useful idiots doing their media job.
Realist Eye learn spelling and grammar isn't the way! just ignorant idiots doing their dumbfuck job trying to enforce selective arbitrary pseudo-morality on other adults they can't understand.
***** Fuck you and your made up religion.
***** Don't give a shit about your religion. That's the problem - you think we all do,
***** Because it's just so easy, isn't it?? Believe in something because someone (or some religion) tells you. Heaven forbid you may have to think for yourself one day. And, just to put you straight on something else (no pun intended) a person is born gay - it's not something they choose. Therefore, it IS natural.
And 'this earth' you talk about you are a guest on. As am I and every gay or straight person too. Please try to remember that at all times.
Two men holding hands isn't shoving it in peoples faces.
You wouldn't say it if it was a straight couple holding hands
@@Dan-sx4xe or two straight people kissing in public?
The women was the worst of all, completely ignorant of her own homophobia. At least her son fully admitted his bigotry.
I never saw my mother & father holding hands like that. They got divorced when i was a child. I wish i had parents who were truly loving each other, and i wouldn't have cared if they were two men or two women.
to be fair if you walked through Luton town centre holding a book you'd get funny looks and 'ughhh' comments, so this isn't really a surprise
😅🤣😂
With all due respect I'm not going to listen to a opinion of what's "disgusting" from a young lad who is basically playing with himself in public.
Must be one of those things other people do wrong. No insecurities about himself. Why live and let live eh? Get them before they get you me sparrahs.
I grew up in an era and area where it was considered disgusting by pretty much everyone. This was Leeds in the 70's and 80's. It is still a very narrow minded place although I rarely return now. Then there was one gay bar and it had boarded up windows and so forth. so I was raised and taught by everyone around me it was the worst possible thing. I learned this was not true over the years having moved to London and worked with people who are gay and used my own judgement. So I can understand people who have been brainwashed about it. It is just like people are brainwashed about religion and hate others because of that. If you tell kids something and everyone tells them it they grow up believing it.
Yes Leeds still has homophobes but most homophobes turn out to be from white chav working class people and people of colour but other than that its not that bad not how you described as in the 70s and 80s and I should know that because I live in Leeds but you still get those homophobic idiots
I get this all the time even when I'm on my own because I look quite feminine. It's just kinda sad that I wouldn't be able to hold hands in the most innocent and affectionate sense without ridicule on the streets.
We're only on this planet for a while, ignore them and keep walking with your head held high. They are not worth even a thought.
*****
That's why Thailand is a big brothel for every European or American sex tourist (sad but true)
And the "conservative" Singapore is practically a first world country. I guess you know that ;-)
***** I haven't spent much time on Mars too, that doesn't mean that i don't have the basic knowledge about it.
"Human rights" ?! Lol, spare me with this leftish bullshit. I know what you people understand under the term "human rights". , lawlessness.
You can call me an idiot as much as you want too, that doesn't chance the fact that Thailand is a corrupted shithole country and Singapore a well respected country in Europe and in the USA. I have money on Singapore's Natinal Bank, do you think that i would do the same with a Thai Bank you clown ? Cheers.
rich carter
Dear Sir thank you very much. Now Michelle Topham will ask you if you ever been in Thailand before he/she calls you an idiot too ;-D
King Without A Crown I have been to korea, japan, china, singapore, thailand, malaysia, and hong kong. among all those countries the only places I would rank as first world countries are korea, japan, singapore, and HK. china, thailand, and malaysia are extremely corrupt and dirty (not in the cities where foreigners come for tourism but in many parts of the country).
I wonder what people say if straight people were banned from showing affection in public.
I hope that guy's lesbian porn gets censored. No, blocked.
Sad. I pray for the day when a gay couple holding hands will be considered just as normal as a straight couple holding hands.
Simona Omina, until there exist closed-minded people it would never happen, unless same-sex couples do it anyways and those closed-minded people have enough moaning and whining about another human being's freedom to love as well.
Simona Omina Although I don't believe in prayer, as a Biromantic, I have to say thanks for that.
Atheist Ian Hulett Well, I don't belive in that either actually, but I just hope that one day, it will change.
Simona Omina Try being in a mixed relationship & see the abuse you can get. Even that still happens. I'm white she was Indian, wandering around London you got the stares & sometimes abuse. Not as bad as I suspect any gay couple might experience.
MrLien2U Women have the same rights as men almost everywhere now, yet you can find sexist people. Black people have rights but there are racist people still. Unfortunatelly, ignorant people are real and they always will be there.
I think if they did one of those "10 hours of walking around" videos, but with two men holding hands, you would get a lot more abuse than people would think.
*Actually Satan* , those 10 hour videos are all staged
you are far from being enlightened , just saying, maybe change your profile pic to a teletubby
@@goku21youtub obviously they pretend to be gay, it is staged in that sense, but *the bystanders* are random and think they really are gay. *That's the point* . It should be clear from the microohone and commentary thst they're not trying to make the viewers believe they're gay.
@@darksparkle6087 no even the encounters are faked , maybe there is a real background reaction , but the crazy people are actors
why are people shocked that this still exists? Im 19 and I grew up in an area where homophobia still exists. If you were gay in my school you be crucified so the notion that Homophobia comes from the older generation where it wasn't acceptable in that era is a bit naiive, a LOT of young people still cant come to terms of men liking men or women liking women
I grew up in an area where homophobia was still prevalent - when I started secondary school it was the talk of the year group when so and so came out as gay - lots of frowning and looking down upon said individual. By the end of secondary school, there were numerous people identifying as gay, and few people had any issue with it - most were LGBT supportive.
Now, is that a sociological change within that community, or an age-related change? I wonder if Year 7s and year 8s are still as homophobic in the community where I grew up?
No doubt, when I started secondary school there wasn't no initiatives or people coming in from the LGBT or any other Gay organisations to talk in Assemblies, there lies the problem. However i'm sure there are now people going into schools to talk about it with it being more acceptable now and the fact that it has grown from the last 5-6 years
The 18-30 year old generation overwhelmingly support the gay community. That's just a fact, but in certain areas young people are still dumb.
***** Yes you're dumb, starting by the fact that you THINK your definition of right and wrong are absolute, which is untrue! You know that all the living creatures are supposed to evolve and you're definitely not doing it if you prefer to remain attached to old beliefs and morale sense.
***** No, you're dumb, but society is luckily moving towards a day LGBT citizens will be treated equally.
Videos like this are just another reminder that the biggest obstacle the LGBT+ community faces today is getting widespread acceptance from society for expressing themselves honestly and openly.
Going 'eww, that's disgusting' or 'I don't like that' is not an excuse. It never will be.
All these people who are against homosexuality never seem to get much further in their arguments than just saying 'it's wrong. it's wrong.'
WHY is it wrong, and WHY do you think you feel that way? It doesn't take much capacity to really ask yourself these questions and realise how stupid it all sounds as you try to fish around for reasons. Beyond religion, there is no excuse for homophobia, and I can absolutely guarantee that very few of these people who use 'God' as an excuse for homophobia wouldn't think twice about subjects like sex before marriage and so on.
its not wrong, a straight guy just feels a disgusting tingling inside his stomach when he sees gays ... its a primeval warning instinct or even a subconscious reflex if you wanna call it that way
Im bisexual and have straight friends who accept me for who i am . I mean i have lost friends because of it. Yeah some straight people might find it disgusting but it goes to show how very narrow minded they are.
He was a teenager, his opinion will likely change. Do you still hold every belief you had when you were a child. This is pathetic, fair enough if an adult said it, they didn't though
I find heterosexuality really digustin but i have to accept it.
King Without A Crown you're also "nobody" so don't give a fuck!
*****
Well i don't really give one, but i like it to provolke you guys a bit , sice you're so egocentric and selfish that you demand everyday even more. I mean what exactly do you want ? A gay for president ? That the church announces that Jesus was gay ?
What else ? That the straight once kill themselves because they can't beat the shining of the gay people ?
I tell you one thing dude: There is no vid on RUclips which attacks gay people (as far as i know). But again and again there are vids like this one, like gazoline in the fire, making opinions and feed the hate.
This leads to nothing, believe me. On the other hand , if you like a crusade against the sexistic rasict society , you can waste your time for it, you're not the first one you know
;-) Cheerio.
King Without A Crown speaking about wasting time. I see you've been commenting on this video for 3 hours. holy shit are you this fucking sad? Why can't you just accept the fact that gay people have always existed and they are finally getting the courage to ask to be treated like regular people
King Without A Crown I'm not even gay. Lol You think I'm gay for defending gay people? Do you really generalize to this extent? Why does people's sexuality matter to you? Does it affect your life?
I don't understand where you got the idea that ALL gay people behave the same, it's like you don't understand that sexuality does not necessarily define you as a person unless you choose it to do so. And believe me not all gay people make it their whole personality and go on and make out with all the guys in your parking lot. Some people have self respect and some don't and sexuality has nothing to do with that.
Speaking of self respect you just admitted to fingering your gf infront of your grandma. That's bad wouldn't you agree? Now shouldn't we agree that straight people can also be disgusting?
Geesle Well dear Sir i fully agree. I wrote it in another comment, i have no problem at all with homosexuals who behave like normal creatures. My dislike is for the "show-off-gays" who love to provoke the average daddy and mummy with their attitude and then pretend to be devastated when they earn disapproval.
And for that reason i brought the example with my girlfriend. I was 16 then, an age which a boy thinks that it's cool and special to do such things. I wouldn't do that nowadays, not because i'm old and conservative now, but out of respect for the rest around me.
Bottom line: It's a matter of the right or wrong behaviour , not a straight or gay thing.
But since gay people are not the norm (no matter if you like it or not they are a minority which doesn't get approval everywhere and from everyone) they have some reasons more to be a bit discrete and low profile.
Or if they don't wanna be like that and behave like everybody likes to watch scenes from their life, then they shouldn't be surprised if they earn looks.
Last but not least: Most of the reactions from gay people here show me e thing ---> Gays would love to be the new straight, they think with absolutism and no understanding for the "other side". Another proof that it's in the human nature to want to supress the others ;-)
Holding hands is a sign of friendship in my country. But when I came to Europe and walked holding hands with a friend of mine from my home country. I was asked later if I was a gay. From that moment, I don't hold hand with other people.
I am not a gay, Michelle. It is a big deal that will influence my life, since gayness is not acceptable, and stigma. I don't people to have a wrong impression, believing wrongly that I am gay. Fearing from being excluded socially, I don't hold hands.
***** : It is said that Europe is gay friendly. It is not true. There is law in many European countries that allow gayness, but majority of society does not like it. And you will be prone to discrimination. I am foreigner in Europe, and that is why I try to make friends ...etc, so that I can get to know the society better, but if they are going to think of me gay, which i am not, then I will have problem having friends, moreover I will be discriminated.
***** : You are right in many ways. However, I have legal permit to stay in the country. ***** : You encouraged me to think less about what others perceive right or wrong. Nonetheless, we have to be thoughtful about our own image in society, that is why much investment is done to preserve or influence public image of society toward governments. I am not gay,and ceasing hand holding, which is easy for me, can help me preventing a consequence. Thank you Lushikute for being source of encouragement. :)
I'd like to see this tried with two women..... Sadly I bet it is more accepted.
Shannon G The truth is it is more accepted when two women do it. Nowadays, a lot of homophobic people (women especially) are mostly homophobic towards gay men and often turn a blind eye to lesbian women. Because of their despicable double standards, they believe that two women holding hands in public is perfectly OK and acceptable but when two men do it it's so terrible and disgusting. It just makes me so mad.
Today a homophobic shared his views with me....
"Gay men have no self control"
"Gay men are like the worst parts of a man and the worst parts of a woman put together"
....and so on.
I had to fight back the tears as I explained to him just how pathetic his warped generalisations are. Online I've read comments but I'd never heard someone "in real life" speaking like this, it shocked me and I felt deeply hurt by it.
Of course I know some people are homophobic but to actually experience listening to someones views like this first hand really shook me up and made me realise what a lot of gay people probably have to go through EVERY SINGLE DAY!
It's 2015 - can we not live and let live?
I am surprised that you were surprised. This is a daily occurrence for my husband and me.
sorry to hear that, dw society is evolving, just look at how western society used to percieve blacks. Give it 30 more years and homophobia wont be an issue in society
I live in Bristol and have literally never experienced anything likes this.
Ur going to hell hahahahaha
My BF won’t hold hands in public. It saddens me, cause I want to. And it’s not the fact that I want PDA... I want to walk with him holding hands... regardless if it’s in public or not, but how much walking around the house can we do before we get bored? It’s not that I want PDA per se... I want to think I’m used to this life, but the truth is still hurts 😓
As a British person, I feel so embarrassed by this. All I can say to others watching - please don't judge all of us by these small, narrow minded people. I wouldn't have a problem with it. Peace to all x
Rach Jones As an American, I know how you feel. lol
Amanda Tessmer lol x
Hm. Here's my opinion.
Homosexuality is not shoved in your face. If they walked up to you and made out in your face, then that's when you can say that.
Also, nobody is making you be gay. You have every right to be straight. Just like other people have every right to be homosexual. That's what I don't understand about homophobes. Like, how is me being homosexual affecting your life? If you can have a heterosexual relationship, I can have a homosexual relationship. Get over it.
(Btw I'm not gay. I was bi-curious freshman year of high school but I've never really let that define who I am. I fall in love with whoever I fall in love with. No matter who you are or what genitals you have)
I think it's sad how many people can relate to this (myself included)
Somebody I told about this video joked that the other guy's behavior could be due to missing "object permanence" (Knowing that things exist if you don't see/feel them). Infants usually develop that skill within their first 12 months.
Well done boys im proud of you for doing this and it makes a valid point even on the 21st century still there are attitudes that will probably never change
Problem is you internalise things, so when I've held hands with another guy in the past you're of course aware of how other people can view you. You have to actively try not to care, which is of course difficult when you've been jeered at and harassed publicly by idiots like I have.
Well done guys. Thanks for shedding light on this.
One kind of thinks with time this sort of thing is diminishing, and I guess it is, but far too slowly. People hold so many values which are contrary to the displayed xenophobia that shows that they don't really understands whence those values came. Philosophers / academics / intellectuals have long since paved the way for our human rights - and yet an extreme majority remain ignorant of there groundings.
I'm saying - TEACH PHILOSOPHY from primary / kindergarten. Teach WHY right is not wrong through thought experiment and actual experiment.
There was a lady who once subjected her children, by splitting the class, to superficial mild discrimination to make them understand the arbitrariness of racism / general bigoted positions. I think this is illustrative of the possibilities.
I don't find it abuse. It's just plain homophobia.
Homophobia IS abuse.
There are a few idiots in my generation, especially in the early stages of puberty when people don't really know what they're talking about or what their opinions are yet, but that's the thing.
Everyone thinks they're idiots.
It's just a complete non issue for young people now.
Why did that boy have his hands down his pants? Was he trying to hide an erection?
Im wondering what the reaction would be if two hot girls were holding hands what would that fella say then
This just in: homophobia is real.
In other news: water is wet.
If the young man did have his hands down his trousers he's one, trying to assert his heterosexuality along with masculinity but most importantly it shows he's feeling threatened by the prospect of a same-sex couple. So in reality, if you think about it he's the one who was feeling incredibly insecure about social change. But as for the presenters shock reactions, you have to be gay to get it, well I think so anyway. This is nothing new for the LGBT community.
Can you do this experiment with two girls? it would be interesting to see if the reaction is the same.
Omg, it's 2015 people ~
Never been to Luton. It wouldn't cross my mind not to hold my boyfriends hand in Glasgow. Straight male friends take my hand when we're in a rush and the streets are busy.
Didn't do it often in my teens in the 90's though. Remember people tossing empty cans at us for kissing outside the GOMA once.
I'm not the one who believes in a fictional character and land from a poorly written fairy tale.
You told me I'm going to hell for holding hands with straight people, think about that. Perhaps when you're praying to Thor.
good on you guys for doing it, respect you. Even though we think we live in a progressive society, there are still acts of discrimination against people who love each other - will never understand that!
Don't blur out his face he has no right to express hatred
He's entitled to find something disgusting. He wasn't being hateful. He spoke to them, didn't threaten them. You need to calm down. It's OK that people don't like you. Trying to guilt people or force people to agree with everything you do is divisive.
@@stonehengemaca He is entitled to his homophobia, but that does not make his homophobia "okay". I have no idea why you are defending him. Would you walk up to a gay couple and say "Errrr" to their faces? That's not just an opinion. That's stupidity.
@@ravenseye9179 a) He didn't say "Errr" in their faces. He said it under his breath to his friends group. But he could have been more discreet.
b) It IS okay to find something disgusting and you can't force your opinion onto anybody.
c) They had to chase and harass him down the street. Why couldn't they just leave him alone?
d) Who cares if somebody finds homosexuality disgusting? I don't care if he does, and I don't care if you are gay.
e) It only becomes a problem when a person is attacked physically or verbally based on their race, sexuality, etc.
@Midnighter You're forcing him to have a positive opinion about homosexuality?! What if YOU were forced to have a positive opinion of his views as a scummy chav?
He's not in their faces or intimidating or physically beating them. They butted into his private conversation and chased HIM down the street. Whether you agree with his views or not people are allowed to form their own opinions. You're a bit of a fascist if you think you can oppose your opinion on others or prevent other opinions from being allowed to exist. You're not going to agree with EVERYONE, you're going to have to find a way to deal with that fact.
WOW! sad that people are still thinking that two guys walking down the street holding hands is not a right thing to do.
enemies of love will perish
The woman saying she don’t want it shoved in her face I bet she don’t have no problem kissing her boyfriend in public or even kissing a boyfriend in public.
some is one protesting far far far too much
Iain Lee and Justin Dealey thank you so much
I've heard plenty of gay people say they find the idea of straight sex disgusting, straight couples kissing disgusting and so on. It's not necessarily homophobia (or heterophobia in reverse) but if you are not attracted to a member of the same sex, it can be disconcerting to see members of the same sex engaged in sexual or affectionate acts, just as it can be disconcerting to see hetero couples engaging in sexual or affectionate acts if you are not attracted to members of the opposite sex.
As the woman said, people might look because it's not something you often see, it doesn't necessarily have a negative connotation. I recall one of my teachers at school saying that the first time he saw a black person he couldn't help but stare simply because it was different and he was curious. He didn't harbour any negative feelings toward the person. Seeing things that are contrary to the norm are, in a word, fascinating.
Additionally, homophobia is a long, long held feeling in many, many cultures. It's not going to disappear within one generation. These things take time, and they are getting better. You have more support for homosexual rights today than you ever would have seen even 40 years ago.
Huh well things need to change much quicker, FUCKING annoying that is moving slow to change
Remind me to never go to Luton if that's the attitude of the people that live there. Hardly the brightest of people if those two are the average.
astonishingly important experiment. Thank you for demonstrating the double-standard.
There needs to be better education regarding the LGBT community in schools. As a 23 year-old LGBT person, I was never taught anything about LGBT issues at school, or by my family. Not one thing. It was just ignored. I daresay a student wouldn't even be properly punished for calling someone "gay" as an insult. It's not good enough. There are too many parents who think that it is wrong to tell their children about the LGBT community, which is why quite a few people grow up thinking it is wrong.
my safesearch thing blocked the video and I couldn't watch it until I found out how to unblock it... tell me about homophobia, uh?
The cencsors propably picked out the word "gay" from the description
Like the boy in this video. I am 16 years old. Though I am not gay myself, many people when I was at school suspected me to be gay due to the way I was ( I wore skinny jeans/hairspray, did theatre and also hung out with girls instead of lads) Being the political kid I was at school (and still am) I always had an opinion which was commonly left-wing so I was very much in favour of same-sex marriage. But a lot of the lads at school were giving derogatory names to me such as 'faggot' telling me that it was wrong and weird because they all commit sodomy and it got worse when I stood up for the one kid in our year who had the balls to come out to such a homophobic year. What baffles me is that we're suppose to be the generation that is meant to open to every race/religion/gender/sexuality etc. We're taught at school to be tolerant of those who are different and to embrace any differences we have, despite all of this, kids still continue to degrade others for their sexuality. Truth be told this really use to get under my skin, watching those kids with a narrow mindset degrading anyone who has it in them to tell the kids that will belittle them they are gay. However I still remember on results day opening my results with a grin on my face and seeing the same on the kid and watching the kids who degraded everybodys faced as they read they'd failed. so where are we all now a year later? well I'm at college in the hope of one day being a graphic designer or an MP, I also have a part time job and do some acting on the side, that boy who I stood up for is hoping to become a doctor one day. Due to our college and another college being so close, I still talk to some kids who I went to school with and found out what some of the kids who were ass's to us at school are, well they're failing their level-one btec PE, have been kicked out, doing heavy drugs and one is going to be a dad. and tbh when kids leave school, there's a huge leap of growing up for most kids our age, those who remain the same level of braindead as they did at school will be the ones who will be at the bottom of society, truth be told that kid who said homosexuality is wrong is probably as much of a dingbat as the kids who picked on me at school.
how come people are more keen to listen to straight men making "social experiments" than to actual gay people who have to deal with this every day?
I'm 47 yrs old (born in 1967), grew up in the rural Deep South, and a has a very strong multigenerational heritage tied to the the region besides. Even "I" managed to largely* outgrow my homophobia in the mid to late 90s..twenty years ago! For a 23 year old guy to still be homophobic in the present-day urban UK (presumably much more liberal than La., Miss., Ala., etc) is flabbergasting for me.
*I say "largely" as a bet hedge - Maybe I'm still somewhat homophobic but don't know it. Certainly I have no conscioius and deliberate disgust toward homosexuality.
The only criticism would be that they didnt do it thoroughly enough with maybe front facing cameras and for a good hour long like what that woman who got the harrassment in the usa got.
This makes me so dad. Mad respect to Justin and Iain.
I live in Canada, homophobes are way less common here than in America, it's shocking that people can act like that in public, still cannot believe that America is one of the better countries for gay people to live in.
America, this is the UK.
Out of interest, can you try this without the handholding, but with the minor celebrities being followed by a camera crew and see if they still get looks. Because being followed by a camera crew tends to mark you out as different much more than holding hands with another bloke.
***** Ok,thanks for clearing that up. It was just an experimental design question. It's a shame behavior like this is still common.
I didn't know Iain Lee was gay. I didn't know he was straight either.
I saw surprise more than homophobia in the reactions. Surprise perhaps that two men looking so obviously self-conscious about it should want to hold hands in public!
ppl can say its disgusting since we fight for a democratic world where everyone can say their opinion ( freedom of speech) and if ppl are against those reaction, they are against freedom of speech.
You see, comments like this make me angry. Yes, we have freedom of speech, and yes it is very essential. However, using that as an excuse to say something ignorant is just abusing your rights. For example, all of the time in my high school, there are people skipping class. When asked by a teacher why they aren't in class, they respond with, "I know my rights," and ignore the teacher. So many people would kill to go to school, yet there are people abusing their rights for a better education. This is just like the freedom of speech example. Some people don't have freedom of speech, and some people in the world are wasting it on saying ignorant and abusive words.
Ramagamma I'll give you that. Very good point. But still, common sense
He's all like: "I don't like it in my face"
They're just holding hands bro, like if it was a straight couple holding hands then you'd have been completely fine with it
He's got those views from her, she felt embarrassed when questioned but you'd could tell in private she'd be laughing along with the son, the apple didn't fall too far from the tree there.
Guys, you don't have to go through all this trouble just so you can hold hands. Just tell each other how you feel
Lauri Hirn Hahaha that was such a funny comment and nobody , straight or gay, has really understood it ;-D
They were just pretending to see the reactions. They said that.
Public opinion doesnt affect these two guys since respect is not part of their charactors. Behind closed doors, they can please themselves.
Thank you :) you've seen through our eyes :)
People who find it disgusting are just uneducated about equality issues. Not sure why they would seek this video out.
There's always a group of people who don't like someone for some reason because they're a girly girl, black, Asian, Jewish , ginger, overweight, old, dress alternative, young, academic, upper class the list is endless.
Some people are desperate to be accepted so they discriminate others. Sad but true.
nice to see a lot of love and peace on this issue
The thing is with the teenager is that teens will change their minds on things like homosexuality once they become older and an adult.
Trust me i'm gay I know this. The teenage boys who are homophobic will most likely change their views once they become an adult.
Thank you so much for this experiment. It will open the eyes of people to see how silly they really are to same sex couples.
WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS FIRSTLY WE HAVE DIFFERENT BODIES WHAT HARM
IS IT DOING TO ANYONE IF TWO HUMANS HAPPEN TO LIKE THE SAME BODY, GET OVER IT, LOVE IS LOVE IS GOOD. LINDA
1:36 But she is okay with men and women kissing in her face?
They should have started to kiss each other when she opened her mouth
The kid did publicly express disgust, which is something that a heterosexual couple wouldn't have experienced. They did berate him a bit though, and I'm gay, but I still thought they should have just left him alone. The point of the video was to demonstrate that holding hands as a gay couple was likely to elicit scorn, and it did, but arguing with a kid that sneers at them didn't aid their video any.
I've been called a fag for holding a guy's hand in public (In a relatively liberal college town), and I definitely think that people shouldn't have to hide who they are. But I've never chased someone down to push a political opinion on them.
The problem is that people think it's different when it's their political opinion they're pushing; we make exceptions of ourselves. I get really annoying when pro-lifers decide to run down everyone who passes them on campus and shove their opinions at them, but they probably think they're saints for doing it.
Just because it's a liberal opinion being pushed doesn't mean it's ok to confront someone who's not looking for a debate. If you want to argue a political opinion, do so with someone who wants to argue with you. I don't agree with the kid's aggression, but neither do I condone theirs.
i have to agree with her, i dont like heterosexuality being shoved in my face..
I don't get it. The people hlding hands asked people for their opinion, and they told them their opinion. Where's the abuse?
The kid decided to act disgusted at seeing them, they didn't walk up to strangers and make them give an opinion. You call disagreeing with homosexuality an opinion, but it's no different than disagreeing with dogs. They're there and it makes 0 sense, making you seem like an idiot, but still.
No, the boy said 'URGH' really loudly as they walked past. That's why they asked him about it. If he'd said nothing then they would've said nothing.
***** Ok but seriously now what exactly did they expect ?! I mean this seriously even i left some ...nasty comments here ;-). You know how the world is. Why trying to force things ? If i were gay i would live my life and trying not to provoke the average people. Homosexuality existed even in the archaic years, but especially in the last decade you people are behaving like salafists for fuck sake. Why you're not happy with the fact that almost nobody wants to harm you (like in past decades) and demand even ...now really what the fuck you demand exactly ? To be loved from everybody ? To be admired like you are special people ? You are not special , you just have a different sexual preference. You can't force anybody to like you with a diagnosis like "homophobia", I would like to shag Scarlett Johansson, i not so sure that she has this intention, so should i call her phobic about my person ? I tell you something (and i mean it with no irony), at the end of the day you will lose your ...gayish essence and became like polemic politicians. Does it worth it ? Pardonne-moi about eventual spelling mistakes , it's not a matter of IQ, it's just that English is just my third language (so this destroys the picture of an illiterate homophobic hater hahaha ;-))
***** Jesus Christ how old are you ? Where are you living in cloud cuckoo land ? Scarlett wouldn't spit in my face ? (maybe not literally but for sure metaphorically and that is worse ). What the fuck do you think that only you feel racism (or social racism) ?! That's the way world is amigo, stop being a crybaby and behave like a man (sorry baout that but you now how it's meant ;-D) If you're looking for racism hidden behind every word you can bet that you'll find some. Don't you understand that you just fuck your mind up ?! (Dude i mean that straight from my heart, like i'm talking to a friend !) It's the way people are, no matter if you gay or straight. If they found out that you're sensitive they will use any chance to hurt you. It's cruel but that's how it goes. So if you want to survive you got to build up a personality (consider it like an ...inner body building). You think that life as a straight guy is oh so easy ? I consider myself as a lucky guy cause a have my good moments with women, but they were some big defeats (like everybody has) and yes they live scares and all the rest but YOU HAVE TO MOVE ON ! Stop looking around you for positive reactions, be yourself and don't be provocative, you cant go to Leeds in a fucking ManU-kit and crying like "they're Mancunian-phobic" and stuff like that ;-)
Think about it. Ofcourse you have the right to believe that i'm a bloody racist. I meant "you people" not in the way of "you rejects" (i told you before that i'm writing seriously now, no more trashtalk ;-)) but because you habe another preference, that's all.
Bottom line: If you're a normal person and not an oversensitive princess everything's gonna be allright, i guarantee you. Stop lookin for enemies and don't try to find an 100%-acceptance, NOBODY can achive that, cheers.
***** Yes i know exactly how life in ancient Greece was. And also that Greece then was the cradle of democracy and philosophy. But in 2015 they are a pretty problematic country, times chanced. And i can tell you for sure that gay people are not necessarilly have an easier life in Athens than in London.
Anyway i have the impression that you don't want to understand and you choose the hard way. Or maybe you are 18, at this age everybody feels like a warrior. Point is that you sound extremely polemic and angry. I don't can imagine what exactly is your picture of an ideal society, probably something unreal. It's also clear that you overuse terms like sexism, racism etc. It's the way feminists did it in past decades and history told us that they didn't have the happiest lifes. So as far as i can see you have to choose between a normal life (and yes you know what i mean, you're not stupid when i say "don't be provocative". Provocative like the German politician who went to Russia and played tough gay against the Russian police amd lost his teeth. Statistics say that provocative people (gay or not are ending bad, sooner or later). Like i said either you chosse a normal life or you can try to be a Jeanne D'arc or William Wallace or whatever of the gays. For which price ?
That's all i have to say. after all i'm not you brother ;-) My prognosis is that if you really are a tough guy (or tough gay if you like better) and not only an Internet-big mouth you will land sooner or later in a hospital (that's the good version). Actually it's probably necessary for you in order to grow up and stop believing that you'll chance the society.
Cause at this point you're so blind that you're like a Don Quichotte in a fight against windmills(represending sexists and racists).
Gotta admit they are brave guys I wouldn't wanna do that even if I was a gay wouldn't want people staring.
I know a solution (if you were same sex attracted) that will slightly ease fears considering I am in the community (q and closeted) is to be armed with a firearm/s and/or other weapons.
We need to fight back much more often.
We need to be more aggressive than the people that physically target and hurt lgbtqs. Come on rise up.
@@DJFreeway-DJExit-DJClaritin I'm a Christian soooooooo..... yeah.
the sun is hot, the earth is round
if he doesn't like gay people don't make him! it's his opinion that being gay is wrong like they think that is right to be one!
New challenge for lain lee and his chum justin to walk through the bury park area in luton holding hands THey should both make sure their life insurance is covered as they might never be seen again..
What do you expect from Luton?
Maybe the people were looking coz they think ian looks familiar...
Er, didn't really notice any "homophobic abuse" in this video, unless people looking at them strangely counts?!
What about the guy with his hands in his pants??? Didn't you listen?? Did you even watch he whole thing??
you shouldve done that in rural-small town greece!
Do the same experiment again with a female couple.
+vabstudio oh , believe me , they wouldn;t get so much hatred , in fact imagine that heteros jerk off watching lesbian porn and they find it sexy .. ok ...
I was thinking the other night, if there had been no reference in the bible against homosexuality, if there would be more tolerance today, perhaps even complete acceptance. Mother Nature has always had homosexuality probably since the first sexual life forms, we know it’s part of nature just as having black hair, or some other variance/biological expression. Science and research has come a long way over the years, yet it is interesting regarding this particular phobia. I am not scared of gay men but I am uncomfortable with overtly feminine men whether they are straight or gay.
Very true. Well stated. That's all there is to say, about the reference in the Bible and other religious books. However, to go further than that, it's also the factor that if only the translations of the Bible were more clear or precise, things would be completely different. And now we'll never know.
Nobody obviously hit you, nobody obviously talked to you. Wow, a guy said "ughhh" to his girlfriend, so what! Unlike me, he doesn't like to be near gay people. Hey, I don't like being near chavs down my street either, so what? Am I not entitled to be free to like or not like something or someone? Now if the guy were to hit you or be in your face about you being gay, that's another question, but making a disapproval face to his girl about it!? He's totally entitled to do that. Come on... I guess everyone was Charlie...yesterday!
This is hardly about homosexuality or homophobia
Whst do you thini it was about, then?
I'm gay and I find this disgusting. And no, I don't mean this one lad who said, what did he say?, ahh, he said "ughrr" (such a homophobic hateful expression!) I do mean this two ageing dudes who are expected to be journalists having their dumb experiment in the city. Is that supposed to be educational, exploratory or didactic? What they faced is this only "ughrr", and this is how this imbecillic chase ("oh, I heard him saying , let's catch him") and intellectually offensive rant has been launched. I hope you don't mind the question, how is this "ughhrrr" offensive? If I had to care about such imbedorabilia, I would never leave my home. And this lofty speech at the end, esecially "if it had been somebody older who is trying to change their opinion over the years". Excuse me?! First of all, you do not impose conditions. If somebody does not want to tolerate gays (including me) it's their problem. And it's neiter mine nor your fucking bussiness to change their pointvewi. And secondly, yeah, it was "a young lad". So? I don't recollect young generation is obliged now to sign a commitment not to offend gays. And freedom of speech includes also right ot offending others. I actually cannot believe I had to say something so obvious. Dear "journalists", if this is your way to teach people tolerance, the sincerely fuck you, because it was disservice.
My reaction would be "Iain Lee is gay?"
'it's disgustin. it's in muh face.' well shit son too bad for you, go cry me a river. xD
The guy was a he? He sounded like a woman XD
People sound kinda silly and creepy when they imply someone's sexuality needs some sort of "agreement." xD
I don't agree with people who have grey eyes, but you won't see me putting my hands in my underwear when I see them.
BEST JOURNALIST EVER
Maybe it should be said that the environment really influences on people's opinions. I don't live in the UK, but from what I know, Luton is not the most progressive town in England and it has its own ultra-right wing group. Still not an excuse for people to be cunts, but at least this type of attitude can be corrected over time as a community becomes more civilized.
I ship it! But in all seriousness this is sad and depressing in the year 2015 :/
Yes I find this disgusting, am I homophobic?
Yes?
its adam and eve - not adam and steve. why can't people let other people think that its not right without labelling them ? Its their belief and it counts as much as anyone elses. Just coz it doesn't agree with yours. I personally find the sexual act between two men revolting but if they want to do that in the privacy of their own home thats up to them. Its when i see it rammed down our throats so to speak that it oversteps.
How sad. A person is disgusted by 2 men holding hands. The question is, is it disrupting the way you live your life? Is homosexuality interfering with the way you live? It´s true, 2 women holding hands and the men drool over it, 2 women kissing and nothing wrong with it but when men do it, it´s totally abnormal. How toataly pathetic!
CJ That's the problem with homophobic morons. Their homophobia is almost always directed at gay men. In their incredibly narrow minds, they believe that a woman should be allowed to be with another woman if she wants to but that man should never be allowed to be in a relationship with another man.
More of the increasingly common lets try our hardest to find an extreme situation and paint the british public as awful so our self righteous readers/viewers that aren't actually special at all and hold the same views as 99.9% of the public can think they're unique and confirm in their little narcissist minds that they're smarter than everyone else, maybe before jumping on a trendy twitter hashtag that states the obvious on an issue regarding muslims. Fouseytube level of journalism.
I couldn't imagine what would happen in the US if this is England. :( I'm american fyi.
halifaxx55 I'm European but i guess that they would get cheers in places liek San Francisco. I'm not so sure if they had the same acceptance in Texas though ;-P
halifaxx55 Well in the year 2015 people have seen pretty much anything. But if somebody acts extremely provocative it's normal that people will stare at him , no matter if he's straight, gay or an alien ;-)
There are homophobic bigots everywhere... sadly :(