Crazy Legs Discusses The Rise Of Rock Steady, The Haters, The Olympics And What's Next!
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Video Summary: Crazy Legs of the Rock Steady Crew is a straight-up Hip-Hop legend, a pioneer and the world's most popular break dancer. His life is the stuff dreams are made of, as he has toured the world as an ambassador of the culture. His journey has not been without controversy. Legs talks about the guns, the gangs and those sexual allegations from a few years ago. Unbroken and unbowed, he discusses his next moves and more in this expansive interview with @ChuckCreekmur and DJ Thoro at Won World Studios.
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Great interview. I like how he talks about the origins of hip hop. And it’s refreshing to get a dancers perspective. I believe the dance influences the music creator just as the music creator influences the dance. It makes sense that just as you can’t point to one person as the creator of hip hop dance and music, you also can’t point to a specific year…A period (circa) makes more sense. That’s just how the evolution of any human creation works. I think our understanding of the history & origins has to be just as fluid & open as the music and all its aspects itself. Appreciate that brotha’s insight. It has solved a lot of my own questions regarding the origins and history. 🙏🏾✌🏾✊🏾
Crazy Legs will always be obe of my favorite break dancers/b-boys... I really appreciate his contributions to hip hop culture
After I recorded beat street onto VHS I watched it with my friend every day in 1984 and 85
Kids back in the day were not thinking about all these things that we are talking about now because at that time it was about being social where people would see someone doing something or dancing a certain way, or rapping or wearing certain clothes and would emulate it. And that was how things became a "culture". So now 50 years later, people want to put a date and time stamp on it and it becomes absurd. Case in point, all the break beats used in early hip hop came from disco (funk and r&b) records and soul records. So of course there was a disco element to it. Rock Steady Crew was one of the early break dance crews who were there at the beginning of hip hop, but that doesn't mean they "invented" break dancing or all moves associated with it. And that isn't the point. They were there and part of "hip hop" as it emerged as a formal "culture". A lot of this effort to connect these things and trace the roots of the individual elements to a larger historical context came later and that is really a different discussion. 12 - 14 year old kids weren't thinking about older jazz and ballroom dancing when they imitated what they saw on the streets or in the clubs and playgrounds. It was a social thing and just happened naturally. Philadelphia made graffiti "crews" a "culture" that was associated with gangs and marking territory along with marking yourself and your own identity by having your name all over the place. But they didn't have the bubble letters and full car bombers which is something that came from NYC as an evolution. All of this is based on personal social interaction and influence long before social media and social media influencers and so forth. And that is what real "culture" is and has always been throughout history, not mass media and manufactured products from studios and companies. And that is what "representation" is supposed to be, tied to real history and culture.
Yo from 2007 to 2012 I personally had a storage under my name for Bam. I was a UZN member from one of the Jersey chapters.
He made up the windmilll 😂
FBA never said PR was not part of hip hop they said PR didn’t create it and it’s black American culture, “which it is”. You people comprehension level is at an all time low and you hear what you wanna hear.
💯
@tinahudson9146 here's the difference between black so called culture and African culture black so called culture is Europeans negative stereotypes of african people meanwhile African culture is creativity period and creativity is life hip-hop is now black so called culture it was African culture.
Can we get off this FBA sh*t, like legs said, no one had a pin and pan documenting what was going on and technically, you can say people from west Africa invented break dancing, if you want to go that route. That "argument" is corny.
@tinahudson9146 EXACTLY!! just look at these crazy responses to your op, these people are mentioning African culture, its just silly.
@@takeaxsh00 lie
Great interview and shout out to Legs for acknowledging the Peppermint Lounge in N.J.
In the midwest around the same time, breakdancing battles were popular and tracked many of the east coast moves. I remember hearing about some new moves only a few blokes could perform; they won battles because no one knew what it was or how to do it. Power floor moves evolved into full blown gymnastics with Thomas Flairs and then air flairs. Did the same evolution into gymnastics floor moves happen in the East toward the end of the original breakdance era in the 1980s? Ironically, breakdancing is going into the Olympics.
NYC Breakers don’t get the honor and respect they deserve.
I grew up across the street from Lil Lep,
he was more like an uncle than anything,our families were always together,always at each others house and my family is black.
We all were together,my closest brothers are Jamaican,Puerto Rican,Dominican l, Italian,Cuban,Irish,Asian,African we all grew up on Kingsbridge BX and it wasn’t about ethnicity at all,everyone was welcome in everyone’s home and hiphop was shared by all of us.
Who cares about who was/was’nt
the creators the culture is Universal.
I heard some creepy stories about crazy legs though. I met a Puerto Rican girl that told me she was dating him and we were just cool at first but after a while she heard something about him and stopped talking to him and me and her did our thing.
There definitely were stories floating around The Bronx about him but his contribution to the culture can’t be denied.
I actually like watching the NYC Breakers better than Rock Steady. NYC Breakers seem like they had more moves, and let's not forget Mr. Wave.
He was hanging around Bam, what you expect..lol
@@ehmrahq1548
That’s a fact
Ozone and Shabba-Doo is the same dude Adolfo Quinones (RIP)
That beef was A Tribe Called Quest/Zulu Nation vs Wreckx N Effect & Teddy Riley's crew Posse Deep.
This Crazy Legs interview was great. I listened carefully and I think Crazy :Legs expressed himself well. I have closure on Frosty Freeze being let go by Rock Steady although it is still painful being that Frosty was a friend and someone that I admired. We need to love and forgive one another and not be so quick to judge and condemn aven though I felt anger and disappointment when I heard the allegations against Crazy Legs. SPHINX=SALSOUL BROTHERS ©✝
SALUTE, Crazy Legs. Great interview. What up, Thoro? Bboy Poise1, CSB/WREK TECZ (PARRIS). 904....
What I personally observed was a lack of defense on behalf of the CHI/ SKY whenever it came to these
Uncontested layups and at one point in the game I watched ANGEL REESE grab her own rebound back to back to back Under the rim and she could not make that shot after 3 attempts, Now, maybe it was fatigue but the way I see it you can't miss such an easy shot after 3 tries and be respected as one of the best players in the WNBA. She has to become a better player around the basket when it comes to footwork and shot placement bc I watched her on a fast break and there's no way with her height and speed that anyone should be able to get a hand on that ball but thing is that she has this habit of underhanding the ball towards the backboard instead of taking advantage of her size by going at the rim and using an over hand Layup that way the ball will be more protected and She will more than likely finish the play with an and one...
Ken swift
The way they Dressed in Breakin is the way they Really Dressed when the to Have Battles at the Malls !
Damn i was all agreeing with everything Crazy Legs was saying as i was there in the early scenes those days growung up as a kid & experiencing Oldskool Hip Hop as we know it with my own eyes and ears but when he said he "INVENTED THE WINDMILL" all my hope of him spitting more truth went down the drain!
One of Rock Steady's fearfull B-Boy crews they battle in the early days which where 100 times & better than Rock Steady as many others were (Zulu Nation, Magnificent Force, Floor Masters, etc.) perforning amazing powerful B-Boy moves and synchronized chordiograshed street dancing was no other than the amazing "Dynamic Rockers aka Dynamic Breakers that became later on.
Dynamic stated clearly that when they "surprised" RSC in their battles , some Dynamic b-boys would drop the "Helicopter" aka Windmill on Rock Steady before any of the them RSC memers knew how to even execute the move and lose the battles cause of it!
Watch the early movies "Style Wars 1982" & "Wild Style 1983" and see no one from Rock Steady Crew doing any "windmills"! 😂
In 1983 there was a huge televised Breakdancing constest & the winner would be featured in the 1984 movie "Beat Street" and to no surprised the Dynamic Rockers won it all.
But later do to their ego's and disagreement and the fearing that if they did the movie other crews around other areas would see it and "steal their moves"! So they declined being in the movie (huge regret) and so Rock Steady Crew was asked to replace them and be showed cased in the movie against another better and more powerful breakdancing crew the "Floor Masters" which later became the New York City Breakers!
You Lying Crazy Legs!
RAP = Rhythm And Poeting
First Rapper = MC Coke La Rock
First DJ since 1970 = DJ Grand Master Flowers from Queens Bridge
p.s. While DJ G.M. Flowers was DJaying, Nobody knew who was Kool Herc & Grand Master Flash was a young B-Boy not a DJ yet. It is Flowers that inspired Flash to become a dj & that's how Flash got his "Grand Master" name after Grand Master Flowers!!!
Sure, Flowers was the 1st real “DJ” in there amongst blacks but like Legs mentioned, he was a Disco DJ.
Dudes like him played uptown and in the clubs; they weren’t putting it down for the streets. That’s probably why those non-Bronx DJs don’t get credit for creating/sparking the culture.
Grandmaster Flowers is from Brooklyn. Not Queens..
Great interview. Crazy Legs is a legend. Salute ✊🏽
One person is not big enough to destroy the breaking movement but the scene is big enough to get rid of him. Notice he has not been heavily involved since his dirt got exposed. He clings on to rappers, actors and comedians to stay relevant. He has not hosted, judged or really been involved in breaking. If he was innocent Red Bull would still be working with him. This dude made a confession online then gets on here saying it was for his girlfriend. He then said he was getting help. Sorry but getting help doesn't fix you overnight. Master manipulator wanting sympathy saying he thought about offing himself. The guy told on himself then turns it around that he is innocent. He left a social media trail that he made. Nobody else. You can easily see the bullshit here
And P.Diddy is innocent right?! 😂 Crazyleg the one & only who spoke the “TRUTH” & the History of HipHop THE BRONX where it all started & now The Newbie’s 😂wanna think they know their 💩. I am from that School “House Dancer” lived it, witnessed it, & can talk about it, and back it up! The Hip Hop Genre is not what is being projected on TV today, but too many bitters & Now The Whites wanna take credit for a Culture created by Blacks & PUERTO RICANS🇵🇷, but We 💪🏼💪🏽💪🏾💪🏿know what time it is! Popping Locking UpRicking You Got Served✔️✌🏼🫶🏻❤️
@jayver5269
Correction.. The whites and Puerto Ricans want to take credit for what black people/FBA created.
@BTman58 Son change your Diaper you don’t know 💩 about HipHop everything it ain’t Black as your generation profess to think everything is Black🤣Today Blacks don’t dominate in BBB competitions their in last place, and never were Superior than Puerto Ricans🇵🇷💪🏻💪🏽💪🏿👑Now Continue Hating the Truth Hurts✔️
@@BTman58 My son change your diaper you don’t know 💩about The History. TheBronxHipHopNation4Life🇵🇷👑🇺🇸💪🏻💪🏼💪🏽💪🏾💪🏿✔️
@jayver5269 I’ve been a b-boy since ‘78-‘79, hung out with the Rock Steady Crew by way of my boy Wayne “Frosty Freeze” Frost (may he rest in paradise), and been all over the five boros battling and writin’, and I absolutely HATE when people try to bring race into this. That shit is not only ignorant, it’s baseless and just fuckin’ STUPID! Blacks and hispanics created this shit through our shared love of the hip hop culture. Love, peace and unity being the main three tenets of the culture. I guarantee if you were to ask the simplest of questions (being what the four pillars of hip hop are), we would hear nothing but silence from those same people. Fuck the ignorant and enjoy life!! Love, peace and happiness my good brother! 🤘🏼😎
I was on Fox longwood use to play scalsies With MR Wiggles we were all kids.
No one ever brings up Prince Ken Swift. How come?
Cuz we all know he was kicked out of RSC over legs ego
He was t kicked out. He peaced out cause legs is a pos and he was done…
@salski70 he said he was kicked out over using rsc anniversary footage in his video
Let get the History right
Wow I was around both cru rock steady and dynamic rockers
25:44 - 25:50… With all absolute due respect Crazy Legs, Mr. wave in that Roxy battle was the absolute SH-T! 🔥
That move he did was the main reason I went to see the movie in theaters. That whole scene was brilliant but Mr. wave was freakishly good there (tick/spin move) and THAT cannot be denied.
As a bboy it didn't fit at all maybe Normski if he was in it because he still had that bboy style and not attempting to copy the west coast incorrectly like how breakdancers west coast looked lame NYC doing moves wrong no style. I've meet this people and got their approval not just talking out my ass.
I have to disagree with some of the things crazy legs said for one rock steady wasn't the the best break dancing crew they were the most commercial he was their best dancer the rest were average at best ya'll hardly mention Ken swift and doze and legs never gives his rivals their props what he said about Mr wave was bullshit whether he followed a pop locking blue print or not he was a fucking beast then and now no one in rock steady or any other crew could fuck with him
Nyc breakers were largely betters
NYC Breakers were a whole lot better, even in the movie Beat Street they crushed it. They just had more moves and let's not forget Mr. Wave.
The other best Rock Steady breakers were Khuriaki, Baby Love, Buck 4, Ken Swift, Mr. Freeze and Frosty Freeze. I won't get started about the later members of the Rock Steady Crew during the resurgence in the 2000's until 40th Anniversary Rock Steady Jam. Unfortunately, it was the last.
Listen I'm from Philly a PhillyRikan graffiti writer and CB ( Corn Bread ) from the late 50s half black white was one of the original graffiti writers from Philly, but there was also kings of walls like JS aka- Johnski black and MB ( Mark Brooks real name Aka" MB Master Blaster)- white boi and credit (Asian kid from Chinatown)Part One-Rikan, KISKI - Rikan, Razam rikan, P3 ( Phamtom 3) Rikan, Donk Rikan, Soap Rikan, Amor -Rikan and lucky Rikan, LOS rikan, Raka, rikan, spel rikan, Ronko-rikan KADISM-rikan FAR-rikan BAF ( bad ass fred)-Rikan and the list goes on and on. Here in Philly we called it " tagging or Bombing Rally or Rallying the walls. Philly didn't do piecing or do throw ups until Newyorker brought it over or those Philly writers has family in Newyork and learned it in newyork and brought throw ups and piecing to Philly that came in Philly like 78 into the early 80s but Corn bread is one of the original and johnski and MB and Amor and Lucky and credit were there with CB cornbread. Facts! MB everyone thought it was a black or PuertoRican guy doin all the graffiti he was all over Philly from one side of the city to the other end under the tunnels of the El train and inside the trains, trollies at the time they ran in Philly in the cabs bathrooms and buses. Here to come to find out he was a white boy name Mark Brooks coming into the ghetto hood of the Rikans and blacks. So breaking came into Philly in the late 70s and early 80s cause I was one of those Breakers and graffiti writers bombing the walls
thank you all, including Crazy Legs for giving us in L.A. our propers...I wished that the Chicanos in L.A. would listen tot his...they claim that Mexicans were pop and locking in L.A. before Black people and they claim Hip-Hop because they know they know that Puerto Ricans were there (in hip-hop) from the beginning.....but that's Puerto Ricans....not Mexicans....anyway thank you for sharing the knowledge!
Crazy legs came later much later...
My friend, to even entertain that conversation is absurd, but trying to convince those people who pop lockin came from. 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ my mind is boggled.
@@historymarm835 I Never Heard Mexicans say They were Popin and Locking Before Blacks ? Chicanos and Samoans Grew Watching Soul Train To ! That's why the First Non Black on Soul Train was the Chinese Woman with the Long Hair Brenda Song ! And the Group the Lockers Black Dudes , one Puerto Rican and One White Girl Name Tony Basil ! The same Girl That Sings Oh Mickey your so Fine ! Chicanos Did the Low Rider Scene and Blacks got in on that !
I was in the Graf sector killing it at the Ghost Yard, C's and D's layups.....Hip Hop was a Puerto Rican/Black creation !!
Shout out to TNB, WS crews....TATS Crew still holding it down too
👉T N B👈
I remember flooding my Pilot markers and Minis with that old school printers ink.Using eraser tips. Even the white Pentale markers for windows. My crew G.O.D and D.O.G Graffiti On Down AND Devils Of Grafitti. Hitting up the CC line On liberty Ave Layup and hitting up the yard in Coney Island. Doing top to Bottoms and full cars. We used to rack up on cans Rust O and Krylons.
FX CREW 4EVERRRRR!
Did anyone have took noticed of the person that created airborne windmills ? in which i was the only one in the early 80s when i couldn't do the windmills rolling off the head....come Holla at I'm that person
aitracks???
@@gasparruiz5086 maybe halos? which aka tracks, but im not sure what he was trying to say the way he was describing it
@@jaAYnuMbeR5 Halos sounds more like it you-re right haha
Why is it so hard for everyone to agree the creation of Hip Hop was a collective effort ? It's hard to nail down an exact time and day when it was created because at the time it was everyday life .
History has a way of looking like everyday life. Hip Hop is the culture with may elements . Rap Music DJing Breakdancing Grafffiti Art Fashion Jewelry Shoes.
50:50 I thought I was the only one questioning that back then ? 51:04 the old man he's referring to was in the Original " Night of the living Dead " George Romero .
These guys asked some poignant questions. Things I’ve always wondered about RSC and Beat Street as well. Good job. 👏
For correction the argument is not where they around it’s the hat element did they create ! DXT for correction claims he found out he was half rican at 60 years old he knows nothing about being rican
OUT WEST WE CALLED THEM "STRUTTERS" -- FROM RAWKING
I remember that term definitely in San Francisco.
What's bad about the Olympic situation is that they're no B-boy crews from the Bronx, NYC, sad!
The Olympics is 1 on 1 battles, not crew battles.
How do you explain breaking and rapping over beats to FBA ancestors music? Why don’t you break and rap to Latino music since you created it? Asking for some friends
@@Shahada1970 FBA'S say they Don't claim Africa ! So Why use the Term Ancestors?
One of the first fave songs used that he mentioned was Shadows Apache.. white guys with guitars doing a song named after native American. A lot of the move step and also on the ground is twisting so that came from salsa. The question is really like asking why Jimi Hendrix or Chuck Berry didn't play bongo drums. He mentioned Soul Train being a major input and half that disco music was by bee gees
I dont know if i wana see breakers in the Olympics. Its bad enough the red bull judges dont judge well. Just fix the judging in red bull bc and keep it internation as it is.
so true....been bboyin from 1993 till 2013 and i went to a lot of events and jams, and i can tell you a lot of it is so biased.
Crazy Legs let me down in this interview. It’s not 💯
Fba all the way
Upper west side , YCB
did you ask him about the unsolicited photos?
Yeah they bring that up. Are you a female?
I would recommend a good Brother to you by the name
Of Ralph Casanova aka King UPRock he has and knows so much history it just never ends
From pictures to flyers.
Interview him.
BRONX Born
BKLYN Raised
See? This what I'm talking about. You've got all of these gamers (Tariq Nasheed) from the West Coast fronting on the Boricuas about this Hip Hop movement. Saying we weren't a part of the foundation of Hip Hop. And we Puerto Ricans were right there way back in the 1970s up in Harlem, and the Bronx, NYC. I don't like that!
He can't speak when it's fiction and how would he know he was born in 1969 and raised in Alabama.
Tariq s not From the West Coast ! He moved out Here But He is From Detroit and Raised in Alabama !
*How old are you and where are you from?*
You weren't.
@@Art--Deco We were! You weren't! You're not even from NYC!
Mad Child is Canadian Rock Steady!
Checkout the graffiti in The Westside Story movie that was filmed in 1960 and then debut in theaters in 1961. Cornbread would be 7 years old in 1961. The play was created in 1957, which would make cornbread 4 years old. Now ask yourself how many people were inspired to write on walls after watching that movie.
As an OG Latino Bboy including graffiti into our thing back in the day never sat well with me. I always felt we can recognize it and give it much love and respect as part of the hip hop culture since graffiti had already existed in NYC going back as the 60s way before hip hop was even a thing. Also, there were many graffiti cats from other races back then who had nothing to do with hip hop. Thus, I am still on the fence as far as including graffiti as an element of hip hop 50 years later. I guess it can be seen as a step brother to the other core elements of hip hop.
Now Puerto Rican’s where watching soul train the lies continues
Stop hating. Give it up.
@@SantosSaysMediahe from Westbubblefuk he don't know what was going on in da Bx back in the days😆
Everyone watched soul train. Ricans included. You acting like people lived in a bubble. Like only black people could access soul train. Cut it out.
@@Fashionhustler soul train was an all black American 🇺🇸 television show . Whats the appeal of that show to Rican’s ? To sit there and watch a culture you have no connection too and that don’t recognize your culture what’s the appeal ? There has never been a Puerto Rican soul , rb or funk group !
@@marcusgarvey5876 what’s the history or involvement of Puerto Rican in black theater , music or television ?
King vulture
West africans and Spaniards made the Latin american by also mixing with the red american indian thay were already here. Just say it like that. Thats how you dedunk the centricts & not leave anyone out in the hip hop culture. Much luv mr. Crazy legs you inspired us. #radiotronbboys #tongvatribe
We are talking about the early
7Os to 79
Not before or even after.
What place in the world
Had all
Five elements on deck.
Graffiti
Djs
Mcs
Breaking
Selfknowedge
They keep saying that we saying that they had nothing to do with hip hop We saying that we created it that they came later on CRAZY LIE
Crazy legs and KRS 1 be romanticizing shit and telling stories and as far as him boxing we all did we went to PAL . Talk to abby and batch about history that’s why Kenswift don’t mess with legs
But what happened with the problem he was in a sex scandal pictures that you sent to someone by internet but you know what because he's who he is so let's forget it right???😮
Puerto Rican’s didn’t create any part of hip hop
They surely made Breakdancing a huge phenomenon though. I didn’t see FBA’s putting it down like the Ricans when it came to the ground game. 😅
@gaffle7646 grafitti neither.
@@SantosSaysMedia Basquiat was one greatest artist in history & he was Puerto Rican
Poor hater, it still hurts?? I know.. keep on cryin!
@user-jc2fg9wv3u
Jean-Michel Basquiat father was Haitian, and his mother was Puerto Rican.
Basquiat was a contributer and the person who influenced graffiti into Hip Hop.
i never liked MR waves style …..
I can't believe you said that there is no such thing as Poplocking? I'm sorry Crazy Legs but your wrong. I'm an OG Poplocker from LA, and I was in the movie Breaking 2. You should not say shit about our history if you didn't know the facts brother. The fact is that Poplocking is just gangster/ robotic flavor of popping that can't outta Compton & LA. Long Beach CA definitely started popping and boogalooing first but always had there Fresno flavor. So please homie learn the truth.
Btw, they called me OG Ace Rock back in the day.
Are you sure pop locking/boogalooing came out of LA? I thought it came out of the bay/Oakland.
He's saying that because Puerto Ricans don't know how to pop lock as well as black folks. Thats the difference between the Puerto Ricans and African Americans. I noticed most Puerto Ricans preferred breaking and black people preferred pop locking with a little breaking in between. In my opinion black people did it all, they could pop lock, robot, moonwalk and break dance. If you look at all the 80's break video of the puerto ricans, the only thing they mainly do is back flips, spin, break and the b-boy stance. They don't actually dance and pop lock like black people do.
With all sue respect acerock im 55 and from so cal and we all called it popping in the early 80s.locking was from the 70s and it preceded popping.it was definitely 2 different dances
Factz !
He aint lieing it aint called pop locking its was and still is locking poping was different popping went with strutting and ticking
💪🥷👑CRAWFORD!👑🥷🤙
He’s contradicting himself all the first rap songs on sugarhill recirds including the first rapper delight we’re on disco beats. Good times. Plus he can’t hold a candle to chino float tiny Duce if u know u know
hes full of shit... he didnt invent the windmill. he invented the windup to the backspin and thats it. dont believe the hype.
Thats why everyone in beat street had better windmills than him
For a guy that invented windmills,.his windmills were trash..😂😂😂
Prince Ken swift did
look up something called the evolution of the windmill....from the the original back spin to spinning on your shoulders and eventually spinning on your neck aka neck moves....chino lopez aka action from NYC breakers had like the best windmills at that time....
Sorry lost all respect for kevin your not innocent
Second your take on the history has always been disingenuous
Third your not a pioneer of anything you just rode the wave to fame to make it popular for others there’s a difference!
Go sort yourself out and deal with your demons and find yourself again
Everything he saying cap the word hip hop didn’t even exist then
@@Camposthemaster What Do Mean it Didn't Exist ?
Dipped laces . 🏙️