Wow why is everybody disliking the video? It's a free matchup review. In basically every video there's a bunch of people asking about match ups that's why he is doing this! P.S: It was a bug with the dislike counter viewer
As a Trynda main at a decent elo the matchup is already decided in champ select and is heavily rune AND item dependant. It usually feels like a mind game in champ select what rune they will go, feel free to respond if you think there is some mistake in my paragraphs down below. I also like play garen sometimes when trynda and my secondary pick gets banned so thanks for the tierlist Erislash! On top of the list i will put Garen conq and LT Trynda with my giga-dps build as equal because i've never actually lost vs a garen with it. Garen Conq = Trynda LT (my build) Garen Conq (outscales hard) > Trynda Grasp/LT (normal hydra build) Garen phase rush (does not outscale but can just run from Trynda) < Trynda LT Garen phase rush (outscales) > Trynda Grasp As you can see in the majority of the rune setups Garen wins but there is a possiblity for Trynda not to get outscaled, i will include build in this next one_ Garen Conq (counter build) > Trynda LT (my build) Garen Conq (basic build) = Trynda LT (my build) Garen Conq (ms/team build) < Trynda LT (my build) Garen Conq >> Trynda LT (team build/hydra build) Garen phase rush (counter build) > Trynda Grasp/LT (team build/hydrabuild) Garen phase rush (basic build) < Trynda LT (basic build) Garen phase rush (basic build) = Trynda Grasp (basic build) Garen phase rush (ms/team build) < and > Trynda Grasp/LT (basic build) because Garen can leave whenever he pleases with ms build. Garen phase rush (basic build >>>> Trynda (ms build/team build) = Means equal, < means right side wins, > means left side wins, >> means wins hard, >>>> means stomps This is basically what i have in mind when i am vs a Garen that is equal my skill. I dont expect a lot or even any to read all this but it was fun to make so thanks for reading if you got this far. 😊😊
yea as you are saying alot of the time, the matchup will be decided before the game even starts. When it comes to the build, most of the time you cant afford to spend 100% of you gold buying items just to win a 1v1 vs your lane opponent, but you instead have to build items that work well against the entire enemy team. Exaples of this would be randuins omen and plated steelcaps which are both insanly good vs tryndamere. but if the enemies have multiple ap champions. building full armor to counter tryndamere makes little to no sense. When it comes to the runes, I think that Grasp Garen has a really good posibility of bullying Tryndamere out of the lane and zone him off xp after the first back. Though its very hard to do vs good players. If you go Q max with Grasp, you short trades should be way stronger than his and he cant really sustain up the damage taken unless you let him hit the minions for free to stack extra fury. If you fall behind with Grasp, its as I say in the video and you will get 1000% cooked for the rest of the game.
@@Erislash Dam giga aggressive grasp Garen? I've never seen that in my games, they either go conquerer and go neutral mode/slightly aggressive or phase rush and super passive. But would it even work? Since Trynda got his QoL increased range its way easier to space so unless garen is incredibly good trynda could end up getting xp AND winning the trade anyway. Not to mention if trynda sits in bush, waits for the minions to drop low and just spin in getting tons of fury and wrecking the unexpected garen lvl 1. Hmmm, very interesting indeed.
Tryndamere is a very complicated match-up, especially in early game, but I think the game will be decided depending on Tryndamere's team, if he has a balanced composition between AP, AD and CC in the team, it is very likely that he will win the 1v1 against Garen, but if Tryndamere's team has very little AP damage, I would say that Garen wins 100% of the time the 1v1, since Garen will have the total freedom to build armor items, like Randuin, Steelcaps and Thornmail, which completely nullifies Tryndamere.
Thanks for this! Gonna use this for awhile unless new season changes up the matchups. ALSO one thing I learned about the Quinn matchup is she actually uses a lot of mana if you try to run up with q. Eventually you’ll whittle down her mama pool and she can’t bounce off you anymore.
You forgot the Shyvana matchup. I played against a Shyvana recently, and while I think Garen is favored in the Garen/Shyvana matchup, I wasn't really playing the Garen/Shyvana matchup I was playing the Garen vs Shyvana and Xin Xhao matchup. I also went conq with resolve (bone plating) secondary since I wasn't sure if I was laning against Xin Zhao, Jraven IV or Shyvana since the enemy comp was kinda cooked (Hewi and MF, so knew mid and bot). Luckly my Lucian mid got super fed, and while he mostly stayed mid the whole game we did eventually win (our Ashe was stuck getting killed over and over in the side lane, poor Ashe).
As a former EUW Chall player for many seasons (mid/top main), I think you could get a lot more free LP by cheesing level 1 agaist many of the champs that have prio level 1. Try to get in between the T1 and T2 towers, put ward on enemy buff and you can pull the wave level 1 so they can't zone you (could also kill the casters if starting E). You can also mess with the enemy jungler and fuck up their clear if they start there and you have ignite. I didn't play for about 3 years, but I don't think they are covering entrances perfectly nowdays anyway. I only started playing for the first time this season in december again and got master in sub 100 games, inspired after binge watching your content. Lycka till! Hoppas jag kan få se dig på riften någon gång :)
The inventor of this strat once came in my stream and send me lots of clips how to execute it. Ive done it a few times. When it works its great. But im not too sure when it is a good idea, like in which matchups. Also when they just collaps on me with 2 people what do i do? And what if the enemy jgl is not there?
I'm a little confused about Vlad's placement. Garen is one of the few champions that can easily deal with his poke thanks to passive, doran's shield and second wind. After Garen finishes stride he can chase Vlad really hard and force his pool every time you Q and use stride active. You also block his burst damage with your W and Vlad really relies on in his burst in mid-late game.
if Vlad goes the Aery runepage. he will hardcore bully you earlygame where you cant get any cs and he will put you far enough behind so that when you finally get yyour items. he is already too far ahead that you cant all in him even with Stridebreaker.
bro i got humiliated by some Kayle players recently. i used to play well against them and mostly win my lane, but these last 2 games were just sad for me. also I got some good W streak, hope you're doing fine as well
yea Kayle can be tricky and they usually get prio lvl 1-3 because of their strong lvl 1 . but then its pretty easy to builly them lvl 4-5 and hopefully you can also dive them atleast once before lvl 6. If you dont bully them early its gonna be a bit rough all the way until stridebreaker + boots, and then again after she gets 16.
1:37:30 For yoricks W you can actually Q an enemy outside of the wall and jump over the wall completely. It's not reliable because they have to be close enough for you to Q them from inside the wall but it definitely possible.
If you don’t mind answering, does garden scale well with ad or is it mostly attack speed and crit that your damage comes from? I’ve been playing a jack of all trades build and I think it feels good but I am only plat so it’s impossible for me to actually know if it’s good or if I’m trolling.
I honestly believe this guy plays Garen perfectly. I know everyone says Garen so easy lol noob champ, but i havent seen anyone know his limits so well, not even challengers.
Hmm pretty much agree with every placement with the exception of Vayne/Varus. Would love your input. I was down 40-50 cs vs Vayne top at one point but once I got swifties + stridebreaker, I won every single all-in and took over top lane. I’m in NA mid Diamond so maybe apex tier Vayne/Varus players are better and wouldn’t let me win that easily? But even diamond Vaynes know how to zone me off XP early and poke me under tower.
I feel like low elo range top you can destroy, you just gotta play safe until stride and then you absolutely destroy them. its less reliable in high elo as most range tops wont let you scale for free. but yes once you get stride + swifits it becomes a super easy matchup.
Havent really seen more than one rengar top this last year so I didnt feel comfortable placing it on the list. I went 7/1/3 that game (uploaded to my VODS channel) so id probably place him kinda low, but one game is waaay too small sample size to rank him on the list.
@@Erislash I was obviously playing at lower elos (high plat/low emerald) and Rengo is one of those champs with very high skill ceiling - basically abusing jumps and short trades without taking any dmg. In my experience the laning phase was easy. Mid game if things are equal Garen starts to dominate. Late game Rengar outscales. But difference between plat and master is bigger than iron and plat so who am I even talking to XD. All things considered I lost enjoyment for the game long ago. Playing off meta champs like Rengar top is met with a lot of criticism XD and probably for a good reason. However, the reason I quit was the kernel based anticheat. Highly recommend quitting this game.
Interesting choice, still won't play Garen as Cho'gath main. Definitely can see your placement of my main. Like if I can manage to avoid losing the first few trades, you can bully Garen super hard. Just don't like facing Garen myself, since some proxy or when he starts shredding you with a weird crit build while Garens W makes him tankier than he should be. (The damage reduction lasts way too long.) But interesting placements overall.
Nah not really, but if the Jayce is good. He will hardcore bully you early so by the time lategame hits and he has 6 items. Your stuck at around 4 items (if he didnt already manage to win the game). But yea 6 items Garen vs 6 items Jayce, Garen easily wins, the only problem is getting to 6 items vs Jayce.
@ Ok I understand that lol. If jayce doesn’t snowball it is over for him because he will do negative damage if you build armor. I guess I suck at jayce because I can never exploit him to the fullest
It works fine but I dont like it as much, the enemies will always bully you (unless you pick it into a melee matchup which Garen wins alsmost all of midlane) and you will have way less prio. So your jungler will hate you if your stuck under tower the first 15 min of the game.
It's disgusting that K'sante beats garen now. Just shows how disgusting tank items are and how needlessly nerfed SB is. RIP Phage passive. Made it so much easier to play mid.
Only got 1 game against rengar and 1 against shaco. Both where stomps but I didn’t feel like including champions with that little sample size (i could have gotten lucky with bad enemies or something) so instead of potentially missplacing them and missleading the community, I choose to not rank them.
Darius is not a bad Garen matchup overall. His early lane in a solo long side lane is unbearable. Put garen vs darius in any other role and it's way more playable, and Garen outscales and destroys him by decimating him with his ultimate in fights.
@PaladineAvenger1 You gotta play half as good as the Riven player does and you'll do the same amount of damage as her being twice as tanky. Can't miss any skillshot. If missplay just stand back 10 sec and try again.
If you can't win the lane cos you're playing against viper or something just stand under tower and farm, you'll probably be able to flash +combo the backlane and sill be useful. Thats it. All the way to diamond.
@@MrJDozzo bruh, you cant compare riven to garen nowadays. Since riven is ridiculously overbuffed currently and sits comfortable at S+ tier, while garen struggles with being C tier lol. And the thing about flash + combo enemy backline works much better for riven than for garen. I experienced things where riven lost lane, yet somehow was oneshotting my adc while being 0\4. That thing is broken.
Dude get out from low elo first and then talk, this guy is talking in high elo experience (grand master-challenger) if you are low elo the matchups changes drastically
@@tepabow5909 looks like you didn't even see that game, licorice got gank 2 times in laning phase the two times ending up in his death and a tower which it ended up in lincorice falling extremely behind, Adam did not defeat jax because of the matchup
makkro would be charging 5$ for this
Bible is quite litterally EVERYTHING about Ornn in all languages. Any possible scenario is mentioned in Bible.
*20$
There's a protestant spreadsheet on the ornn mains subreddit
@@18skeltor ayyy thanks man, i used to have his spreadsheet always open until that happened
You broke?
LETS FUCKING GO IM SO GLAD TO BE REVIEWING THIS
keep the crazy content im sending this to my best buddy RIGHT NOW
Wow why is everybody disliking the video? It's a free matchup review.
In basically every video there's a bunch of people asking about match ups that's why he is doing this!
P.S: It was a bug with the dislike counter viewer
People hate philanthropy smh
I think it was just a bug with the extension that shows dislikes. Now it's showing 332 likes, 2 dislikes.
nobody is disliking the video.
2 hours Erislash video, we eatin good
It's only a 1 hour video at 2 times speed.
As a Trynda main at a decent elo the matchup is already decided in champ select and is heavily rune AND item dependant. It usually feels like a mind game in champ select what rune they will go, feel free to respond if you think there is some mistake in my paragraphs down below. I also like play garen sometimes when trynda and my secondary pick gets banned so thanks for the tierlist Erislash!
On top of the list i will put Garen conq and LT Trynda with my giga-dps build as equal because i've never actually lost vs a garen with it.
Garen Conq = Trynda LT (my build)
Garen Conq (outscales hard) > Trynda Grasp/LT (normal hydra build)
Garen phase rush (does not outscale but can just run from Trynda) < Trynda LT
Garen phase rush (outscales) > Trynda Grasp
As you can see in the majority of the rune setups Garen wins but there is a possiblity for Trynda not to get outscaled, i will include build in this next one_
Garen Conq (counter build) > Trynda LT (my build)
Garen Conq (basic build) = Trynda LT (my build)
Garen Conq (ms/team build) < Trynda LT (my build)
Garen Conq >> Trynda LT (team build/hydra build)
Garen phase rush (counter build) > Trynda Grasp/LT (team build/hydrabuild)
Garen phase rush (basic build) < Trynda LT (basic build)
Garen phase rush (basic build) = Trynda Grasp (basic build)
Garen phase rush (ms/team build) < and > Trynda Grasp/LT (basic build) because Garen can leave whenever he pleases with ms build.
Garen phase rush (basic build >>>> Trynda (ms build/team build)
= Means equal, < means right side wins, > means left side wins, >> means wins hard, >>>> means stomps
This is basically what i have in mind when i am vs a Garen that is equal my skill. I dont expect a lot or even any to read all this but it was fun to make so thanks for reading if you got this far. 😊😊
yea as you are saying alot of the time, the matchup will be decided before the game even starts. When it comes to the build, most of the time you cant afford to spend 100% of you gold buying items just to win a 1v1 vs your lane opponent, but you instead have to build items that work well against the entire enemy team. Exaples of this would be randuins omen and plated steelcaps which are both insanly good vs tryndamere. but if the enemies have multiple ap champions. building full armor to counter tryndamere makes little to no sense.
When it comes to the runes, I think that Grasp Garen has a really good posibility of bullying Tryndamere out of the lane and zone him off xp after the first back. Though its very hard to do vs good players. If you go Q max with Grasp, you short trades should be way stronger than his and he cant really sustain up the damage taken unless you let him hit the minions for free to stack extra fury.
If you fall behind with Grasp, its as I say in the video and you will get 1000% cooked for the rest of the game.
@@Erislash Dam giga aggressive grasp Garen? I've never seen that in my games, they either go conquerer and go neutral mode/slightly aggressive or phase rush and super passive. But would it even work? Since Trynda got his QoL increased range its way easier to space so unless garen is incredibly good trynda could end up getting xp AND winning the trade anyway. Not to mention if trynda sits in bush, waits for the minions to drop low and just spin in getting tons of fury and wrecking the unexpected garen lvl 1. Hmmm, very interesting indeed.
Tryndamere is a very complicated match-up, especially in early game, but I think the game will be decided depending on Tryndamere's team, if he has a balanced composition between AP, AD and CC in the team, it is very likely that he will win the 1v1 against Garen, but if Tryndamere's team has very little AP damage, I would say that Garen wins 100% of the time the 1v1, since Garen will have the total freedom to build armor items, like Randuin, Steelcaps and Thornmail, which completely nullifies Tryndamere.
@itachi4761grasp Garen is the go to vs trynda.
@itachi4761i was surprised you didnt mention it.
Thanks for this! Gonna use this for awhile unless new season changes up the matchups. ALSO one thing I learned about the Quinn matchup is she actually uses a lot of mana if you try to run up with q. Eventually you’ll whittle down her mama pool and she can’t bounce off you anymore.
I feel more confident about reaching Challenger after watching this video.
You should make a Garen vs Ranged top matchup guide, like your other matchup guides, but on how to go even and outscale.
As a guy who doesnt play league i can say this is wrong
you would fit right into the league community
@@lordofhell_666 FOR REAL HAHAHA
13:29 ”Most likely gonna… 🇸🇪amen🇸🇪” the Swedish slipping out😅
12:35 zac's blobs doesn't have a missing health healing but i get your point
Yea mb I was a bit drunk or something :D
@@Erislash its actually missing HP if you account for Zac's current HP costs
4% missing HP + (0-4)% max HP heal
@erknaite heloge what are u doin here
You forgot the Shyvana matchup. I played against a Shyvana recently, and while I think Garen is favored in the Garen/Shyvana matchup, I wasn't really playing the Garen/Shyvana matchup I was playing the Garen vs Shyvana and Xin Xhao matchup.
I also went conq with resolve (bone plating) secondary since I wasn't sure if I was laning against Xin Zhao, Jraven IV or Shyvana since the enemy comp was kinda cooked (Hewi and MF, so knew mid and bot). Luckly my Lucian mid got super fed, and while he mostly stayed mid the whole game we did eventually win (our Ashe was stuck getting killed over and over in the side lane, poor Ashe).
My goat posting a 2 hour banger to start 2025
Naaah a 2 hours matchup video is insane, thank you for your content 🙏
Bro really deserve more views and subscribers. Thanks for the 2 hours of content
As a former EUW Chall player for many seasons (mid/top main), I think you could get a lot more free LP by cheesing level 1 agaist many of the champs that have prio level 1.
Try to get in between the T1 and T2 towers, put ward on enemy buff and you can pull the wave level 1 so they can't zone you (could also kill the casters if starting E). You can also mess with the enemy jungler and fuck up their clear if they start there and you have ignite.
I didn't play for about 3 years, but I don't think they are covering entrances perfectly nowdays anyway.
I only started playing for the first time this season in december again and got master in sub 100 games, inspired after binge watching your content.
Lycka till! Hoppas jag kan få se dig på riften någon gång :)
The inventor of this strat once came in my stream and send me lots of clips how to execute it. Ive done it a few times. When it works its great. But im not too sure when it is a good idea, like in which matchups. Also when they just collaps on me with 2 people what do i do?
And what if the enemy jgl is not there?
You know it's a great day when Erislash uploads!
all the matchups are ezpz when you're Erislash
That’s why he is the GOAT
End of season explains a lot of the stuff I've seen recently T_T
I'm a little confused about Vlad's placement. Garen is one of the few champions that can easily deal with his poke thanks to passive, doran's shield and second wind. After Garen finishes stride he can chase Vlad really hard and force his pool every time you Q and use stride active. You also block his burst damage with your W and Vlad really relies on in his burst in mid-late game.
if Vlad goes the Aery runepage. he will hardcore bully you earlygame where you cant get any cs and he will put you far enough behind so that when you finally get yyour items. he is already too far ahead that you cant all in him even with Stridebreaker.
Garen losing to ksante tells a lot about the item balance situation
It's like when i have trouble against a Maokai as OLAF
bro i got humiliated by some Kayle players recently. i used to play well against them and mostly win my lane, but these last 2 games were just sad for me. also I got some good W streak, hope you're doing fine as well
yea Kayle can be tricky and they usually get prio lvl 1-3 because of their strong lvl 1 . but then its pretty easy to builly them lvl 4-5 and hopefully you can also dive them atleast once before lvl 6. If you dont bully them early its gonna be a bit rough all the way until stridebreaker + boots, and then again after she gets 16.
pretty based tier list
Spelar inte lol och kommer förmodligen aldrig göra det, men att höra din ljuva röst i 2 h tackar jag inte nej till 😘
Hahaha weeeeyyy om det inte är mister maaaaxx!!
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1:37:30 For yoricks W you can actually Q an enemy outside of the wall and jump over the wall completely.
It's not reliable because they have to be close enough for you to Q them from inside the wall but it definitely possible.
Finally some good content on youtube
If you don’t mind answering, does garden scale well with ad or is it mostly attack speed and crit that your damage comes from? I’ve been playing a jack of all trades build and I think it feels good but I am only plat so it’s impossible for me to actually know if it’s good or if I’m trolling.
Garden
He scales well with AD as well as crit and attack speed, so the best damage build is usually a mixture of the all.
I honestly believe this guy plays Garen perfectly. I know everyone says Garen so easy lol noob champ, but i havent seen anyone know his limits so well, not even challengers.
Then you havn't seen GABUNGKING's Garen
Lol i just checked him out, he is average at best @HyeonsikLi
Hmm pretty much agree with every placement with the exception of Vayne/Varus. Would love your input.
I was down 40-50 cs vs Vayne top at one point but once I got swifties + stridebreaker, I won every single all-in and took over top lane. I’m in NA mid Diamond so maybe apex tier Vayne/Varus players are better and wouldn’t let me win that easily? But even diamond Vaynes know how to zone me off XP early and poke me under tower.
I feel like low elo range top you can destroy, you just gotta play safe until stride and then you absolutely destroy them. its less reliable in high elo as most range tops wont let you scale for free.
but yes once you get stride + swifits it becomes a super easy matchup.
Is there a link to the tier list somewhere? Would be helpful
how did u make it so the champs are already lined up before u put then into to tiers? how lol
I quit league about 6 months ago but I was an OTP Rengar. One of the easiest match ups was Garen. It's almost a free lane.
Havent really seen more than one rengar top this last year so I didnt feel comfortable placing it on the list. I went 7/1/3 that game (uploaded to my VODS channel) so id probably place him kinda low, but one game is waaay too small sample size to rank him on the list.
@@Erislash I was obviously playing at lower elos (high plat/low emerald) and Rengo is one of those champs with very high skill ceiling - basically abusing jumps and short trades without taking any dmg.
In my experience the laning phase was easy. Mid game if things are equal Garen starts to dominate. Late game Rengar outscales.
But difference between plat and master is bigger than iron and plat so who am I even talking to XD.
All things considered I lost enjoyment for the game long ago. Playing off meta champs like Rengar top is met with a lot of criticism XD and probably for a good reason. However, the reason I quit was the kernel based anticheat. Highly recommend quitting this game.
Is it better to proc Phase rush with AA, Q, E to run away or just use Q movement speed?
That combi is pretty good but it mostly depends on the matchup.
Nice, now I don't have to just rely on Riste's tier list.
Interesting choice, still won't play Garen as Cho'gath main. Definitely can see your placement of my main. Like if I can manage to avoid losing the first few trades, you can bully Garen super hard. Just don't like facing Garen myself, since some proxy or when he starts shredding you with a weird crit build while Garens W makes him tankier than he should be. (The damage reduction lasts way too long.)
But interesting placements overall.
amazing video!
Goated
Skipped to the end. Gotchu with the 4 second watch time.
grat vid but why did u put only toplaners into a matchup tierlist of a jungle champion
Aren't Darius and Mordekaisers Jungers? I thought I was making a crystal clear jungle tierlist here :D
@Erislash nah offmeta junglers dont count :D
Jayce late beats garen?? Did they buff his late game
Nah not really, but if the Jayce is good. He will hardcore bully you early so by the time lategame hits and he has 6 items. Your stuck at around 4 items (if he didnt already manage to win the game). But yea 6 items Garen vs 6 items Jayce, Garen easily wins, the only problem is getting to 6 items vs Jayce.
@ Ok I understand that lol. If jayce doesn’t snowball it is over for him because he will do negative damage if you build armor. I guess I suck at jayce because I can never exploit him to the fullest
Lol Garen is pure counter for K'sante. Garen ignoring all resistances while he tank and kill him for 3/4 buttons when he in ultimate.
Galio has a shield, it's a magic damage shield, but he has it, too bad Garen Ult is no longer magic damage.
In silver you can get prio against any champion you want.
yes
as a yorick main I like the part 01:36:43
Garen feels a lot weaker in this patch. He too squishy if you build crit
wait till u play some other champ with crit build then
I think Zac heals with his max health right?
Yea he does, i kinda trolled a bit
outscale smolder, gwen,sure :D
does he work mid though ?
It works fine but I dont like it as much, the enemies will always bully you (unless you pick it into a melee matchup which Garen wins alsmost all of midlane) and you will have way less prio. So your jungler will hate you if your stuck under tower the first 15 min of the game.
I dont agree with poppy pre 6. Bit after with paše its easy
It's disgusting that K'sante beats garen now. Just shows how disgusting tank items are and how needlessly nerfed SB is. RIP Phage passive. Made it so much easier to play mid.
Kesha's nicer older cousin
Prio early vs trundle lmaoo yeh okay I'll cook any garen as trundle at all points
Thats kinda exactly what i said in the video :)
all champions in free lane garen is the most op champion in the game TRUUUEEE
where is rengar or shaco?
he's rating most toplaners, not off meta picks
Only got 1 game against rengar and 1 against shaco. Both where stomps but I didn’t feel like including champions with that little sample size (i could have gotten lucky with bad enemies or something) so instead of potentially missplacing them and missleading the community, I choose to not rank them.
Darius is not a bad Garen matchup overall. His early lane in a solo long side lane is unbearable. Put garen vs darius in any other role and it's way more playable, and Garen outscales and destroys him by decimating him with his ultimate in fights.
Karma? Shaco? Kayn? Nocturne? Rengar?
Outscale shen and gween, i dont think so
gOAT!
go watch garen for win if you are not capable of Darius match up
My man is saying the riven matchup is hard lmao
decent rivens are dangerous. its not your average plat joes. ofc you can still smack them down, but you gotta play perfectly
@PaladineAvenger1 You gotta play half as good as the Riven player does and you'll do the same amount of damage as her being twice as tanky. Can't miss any skillshot. If missplay just stand back 10 sec and try again.
If you can't win the lane cos you're playing against viper or something just stand under tower and farm, you'll probably be able to flash +combo the backlane and sill be useful. Thats it. All the way to diamond.
Not that any decent Riven player is bellow diamond anyway lmao
@@MrJDozzo bruh, you cant compare riven to garen nowadays. Since riven is ridiculously overbuffed currently and sits comfortable at S+ tier, while garen struggles with being C tier lol. And the thing about flash + combo enemy backline works much better for riven than for garen. I experienced things where riven lost lane, yet somehow was oneshotting my adc while being 0\4. That thing is broken.
I watch this to know what to pick into garen
Eeeyyy yoo ive been bamboozled!
i wish garen hit powerspike a bit faster than this patch
i don't change garen matchup play but it will make garen feel better
If I ever find you as nasus in some game you will ban him every single game after that you will wish that nasus never existed
Yo chill faker
players willingly otp'ing garen, are either 40 year olds or handless boomers
good thing then erislash is a handsome young man
and i guess kata otps are the 16yo crackheads with heavy ADHD syndrome, huh
you will never understand the dopamine of DEMACIA!
cant blame you, probably crying in basement after losing league games.
@@hyun0333 quite lucky, wonder if all others are as handsome as him tho
"skill matchup" plays garen
lmao when you reach challenger maybe start trash talking him
Every garen otp is braindead or what ? How is jax a skill/even matchup 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dude get out from low elo first and then talk, this guy is talking in high elo experience (grand master-challenger) if you are low elo the matchups changes drastically
@SoyHeavy surely the matchup changes when you get to grandmaster bro ^^
Have you seen what Adam did to Licorice at worlds one year ago or what ?
@SoyHeavy btw send me opgg pls
@@tepabow5909 looks like you didn't even see that game, licorice got gank 2 times in laning phase the two times ending up in his death and a tower which it ended up in lincorice falling extremely behind, Adam did not defeat jax because of the matchup
@@tepabow5909 and my opgg it's DarksBarrita ( the LAN server)
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