The "Fun" fact which isnt really fun at all: 4:38 His W damage applies 1 frame before I press Q, but the slow applies slightly after the damage so my Q doesnt remove the slow and I almost die from it. Also, like the video :D
Just a question; couldn't you just have auto-e-q him there and proc phase? I get the slow after you Q part but you could still hit him with Q no? @Erislash
@@fabianlindberg7051 yea that might have worked. For some reason I thought he had R and in that case, his E into WQR might kill me. But just connecting the Q and running to the tower with phase rush would most likely be fine.
Really refreshing seeing someone wholesome even when things go terribly for a bit you keep smiling and having fun. I hate fighting your champ but you manage to make Garen look good. Earned my subscription.
from your VODs the problem with these rank 1 players is that they get so extremely confident in their own gameplay that when they're losing they simply refuse to recognize their own errors and just default to "broken champion". it's hilarious that a darius player can cry about not being able to beat garen early game when he just ran it down on like 2 all-ins under tower
@@draculemihawk10 Bro who cares about the match up. Garen is better in general into a lot of match up currently compare to Darius. He is even picked at worlds and dominated. Also Garen is way easier to play and has close to literally no counterplay. There is nothing to dodge on this champ, you only win if you are stronger that him. You can still dodge Darius Q's and beat him, against Garen you just need to stat check him or you lose. Also all this ADC items benefit him and you can't even kite him too. At least he was slower previous seasons.
@@FrenzyGamingTV "has no counterplay" buddy play a champ with high sustained damage like darius, sett, or fiora, how is garen supposed to outdamage them once he presses all his abilities? garen literally doesn't do anything without q and e whereas certain champs have lower cds on their abilities/a lot of their damage comes from autos (unlike garen)
@@gen.tucker6024not any true. Lvl 16 Darius if not being focused will oneshot entire team with 1.5k true damage R recets. So many times I got camped to 0/7, 0/10 and then made almost penta in tfs
@@gen.tucker6024 Bruh he did become strong even afetr 2 solo kills he could solo kill garen. And before you say thats only cuz he overstayed, yes thats indeed how every champ works from behind unless your a tank. You get back in the game from behind with wave manipulation, ganks or enemy mistakes. Or do you want Darius to be able to duel another dueling champ from behind?
Exactly. Every darius I play against just waits in the bush level 1 its literally like a ritual they have to perform😂 trying to get that juicy 5 auto attack kill
"best darius in the world" crying about garen kekw what is this, how high elo players can be so delusional it's insane. He wants to pick vayne it's disgusting
@@FrenzyGamingTV Haven't seen Garen players waiting lvl 1 in a bush and ghost to rundown their opponent in the middle of the wave as soon as they see him, either get first blood or hard win the trade, then deny farm for the rest of the laning phase. But right now Garen is rly strong so yeh they can't complain much
@@FrenzyGamingTV I don't, for the simple reason that I am not a toplaner, but even I get disgusted when I see what Darius can do. And this is not a low elo cheese, if you watch Adam in soloQ he finds ways to force lvl 1 extended trades even in GM - Challenger (btw his OPGG says that his Darius stomped Erislash Garen yesterday and I'd love to see the VoD of this game)
The darius dude is quite pathethic to be honest. He says it himself : the W makes garen meta, and then he goes on to say they should fix it? oh? so Garen is supposed to be unplayable? alright buddy. Go touch grass
He is not OP, only high elo garen players are OLD Garen mains or OTPs, otherwise he is just picked as counterpick and like any champ can be picked like that besides he has negative WR in high elo anyways
@@stefanandrejcik571 huh? You must be very out of touch with the meta. He's been highly contested in competitive and one of the strongest blind pickable top laners for a while now.
I remember seeing one of your first videos where you flamed quite a bit and I thought "He is good, but also kinda toxic". But since then you have been one of if not the most positive and likeable League RUclipsr :D Hope you will get more views soon, you deserve it! Also I am learning a lot by watching you. Had to play against a master Gwen OTP yesterday (I am low Emerald). Usually I hard lose this matchup but after watching you for the last year, I was able to destroy her in lane and carry the game. Probably also helped that Garen is OP right now, but I still felt I played it well
virgin darius yapper / chad garen enjoyer but it's kinda understandable, playing darius does some things to you man, you get cucked so many times in general because no mobility + short range when i'm playing morde/garen it's mostly chill but when i'm on darius i just wanna punch my monitor when anything goes wrong even once
No mobility? i mean i get that q speed isnt that much or easy to prock but in top where you 1v1 into meele a lot i would count w slow and e towards mobility. Mobility is all about how much more do you have than the enemy not actually how much do you have compared to a standard. And also he is able to take 2 mobility summs so i feel like he has some at least. comparable to garen imo. Range is similar to garen too no?
@@abelboronkai448 I'm talking about playing darius in general, you can't go over walls (honestly it's absolutely criminal how many champs can go over walls in this game), can't force plays on enemies without sums etc. And he is not "able" to take 2 mobility sums, he HAS to take 2 mobility sums as a crutch to fix his kit because there's so much shit in this game to kite/outrange/cc him. All this stuff combined is kinda hard on your mental
@@WattaPork first part, your absolutely right. But about the summs i would still argue. He heals and out dmgs most others so no need for exhaust. Bleed acts like an ignite in some reagrds so no need for that one either. Maybe he is forced but he is still strong even after being forced to do it
@@abelboronkai448no. He can’t take teleport for macro plays, and his passive isn’t like ignite. At that point you could say liandry’s is ignite too. It isn’t. It’s in his kit, and not true damage, and doesnt have healing reduction
Erislash. You are awesome dude. It's so cool to me that you take the time to answer questions about the game. I have one myself. Do you think Eclips (bamis) Q max phase rush has a place in some high elo games?
Yoo thank you :) As for the build, I dont really think its that good because if you build thoes items its gonna take you a really long time to get some actual speed items which Garen really needs for macro and teamfighting. I understand that eclipse is good for short trades but Id rather go the meta build :D
Great vid. Both gameplay and mental. I love this new "meta" of positive streamers. So much more fun to watch. I was so distgusted by the darius toxic yapping i could barely watch it. And im not saying i never do that (altough i hope not this much). But streamers should hold a standard. lets not forget this is a game. games are supposed to be enjoyed.
Great game. I have a question: there were multiple times, in teamfights, where you could've flashed, or even walked, onto MF, but you didn't, may I ask you why? I'm genuinely curious.
I hate it when people don't own up to their mistakes and just say the other champion is broken and has no counterplay. First death he got FUNDAMENTALS'd and on the second he missed his E and didn't respect that he was in kill range. Like both deaths are your own fault, buddy, just take the L and learn from the experience...
Darius player: how can garen be that strong, is unbeatable 😭😭 *proceeds to dive him 1 min later while being 2 kills and 1 lvl behind and still keeps like 20% of his HP
I mean I agree that Garen is not balanced rn, but you really can’t yap about Garen being broken every 10 seconds while literally playing a fucking Darius lol.
Raider could have just sat there and denied farm, but chose to lobotomize himself and dive a Garen. Complains the whole lane when he fed the guy a kill because he let his ego get the better of him.
23 seconds for a dr, passive and active defense stat boost, tenacity and shield with ZERO drawbacks. It's not long enough to be fair. Should be MUCH longer for a stacked ability like that. All other drs have some downplay to it either slowed, forced to be stationary, directional, or a long cd ultimate.
Its depends on the matchup. Speed vs darius is one of the most important stats so I like to get boots early. Its harder for him to 100-0 you if you just run away :)
Its crazy what a crybaby that darius is, he is acting like it is the first time he has to play against garen without the necessary info beforehand as challenger, like wtf.
Good game, though why were you focusing Leona in many of those last teamfights? 15:26 just one example, karthus and MF are right there but you go for leona
Why do you auto E when trading against darius and use your Q to run away/go on the inner part of his Q? Why don't you just AA Q E everytime and proc phase rush?
Its a slightly safer way to trade into darius. With aa Q E to proc phase rush, he will run with you and hook you back in after the silence ends and then you are stuck close to him without Q or phase rush. If you instead aa E and then Q his W slow and into his Q before quickly running away, you still have speed from Q to run away and if he hooks you back in, you just connect the Q to proc phase rush and then you can escape with a good trade.
I dont get how you can be rank 1 anything and not get that CS doesn't mean XP. Like yeah you let CS go but you didn't leak any XP and you shoved a wave and he didn't .Why didn't he expect to be behind in XP? AND OF COURSE THE SECOND HE HOLDS HIS CDs AND WAITS FOR YOU TO USE YOUR STUFF HE GET THE KILL. Absolute crybaby lol. I love darius but if this is the Rank 1 Darius player this does not bode well for champ rep.
The "Fun" fact which isnt really fun at all: 4:38 His W damage applies 1 frame before I press Q, but the slow applies slightly after the damage so my Q doesnt remove the slow and I almost die from it. Also, like the video :D
It's a tragic fact
Ok Mr. Garen Erislash I will like the video 🫡
Just a question; couldn't you just have auto-e-q him there and proc phase? I get the slow after you Q part but you could still hit him with Q no? @Erislash
@@fabianlindberg7051 yea that might have worked. For some reason I thought he had R and in that case, his E into WQR might kill me.
But just connecting the Q and running to the tower with phase rush would most likely be fine.
@@Erislash I have a question 🙋♂️. What can do you do against Tryndamere if he starts proxy farming? Even if we try to get him he escapes with his E.
lane bullies when they can't bully
womp womp
stat checkers getting stat checked 💀💀
Yeah, that's the best part about this video. Seeing Darius suffer.
Really refreshing seeing someone wholesome even when things go terribly for a bit you keep smiling and having fun. I hate fighting your champ but you manage to make Garen look good. Earned my subscription.
from your VODs the problem with these rank 1 players is that they get so extremely confident in their own gameplay that when they're losing they simply refuse to recognize their own errors and just default to "broken champion". it's hilarious that a darius player can cry about not being able to beat garen early game when he just ran it down on like 2 all-ins under tower
i think you know better than the rank1 darius
@@ItsKillaa i think so too!! thanks!
@@ItsKillaa powerful argument tottaly lmao
Very good point on the “broken champion” especially when Darius is often S Tier and Garen is sometimes a bit below
Bad rank 1 player , simple enough
Darius complaining about Garen is like Elon Musk complaining about the wealth of Neymar
Hahaha true
Garen is way stronger currently.
@@FrenzyGamingTV No,not at all.Darius still only loses the matchup if he does a mistake
@@draculemihawk10 Bro who cares about the match up. Garen is better in general into a lot of match up currently compare to Darius. He is even picked at worlds and dominated. Also Garen is way easier to play and has close to literally no counterplay. There is nothing to dodge on this champ, you only win if you are stronger that him. You can still dodge Darius Q's and beat him, against Garen you just need to stat check him or you lose. Also all this ADC items benefit him and you can't even kite him too. At least he was slower previous seasons.
@@FrenzyGamingTV "has no counterplay" buddy play a champ with high sustained damage like darius, sett, or fiora, how is garen supposed to outdamage them once he presses all his abilities? garen literally doesn't do anything without q and e whereas certain champs have lower cds on their abilities/a lot of their damage comes from autos (unlike garen)
i cant get over the fact that both your faces match your characters
FRRR LMAOOOOOOO
Nahhh Rank 1 darius looks like a beyda emo ( no front)
This guy looks like a handsome hashinshin
@@metafull you mean pedoshinshin ?
@@purestestos2789my man still can’t get over the allegations
Average chad garen vs average crybaby darius
FR
Nahhh i’m not a crybaby
@@fulado5755you are
I swear every Darius main says "gg i dont know what to do" after ONE death 😂
Guess it's because if you fall behind with Darius you are beyong useless
@@gen.tucker6024not any true. Lvl 16 Darius if not being focused will oneshot entire team with 1.5k true damage R recets. So many times I got camped to 0/7, 0/10 and then made almost penta in tfs
yeah, same with Warwick mains. You ignore them, farm and not fight. Suddenly, they do the dumbest sht you can do as top laner.
@@hahapewpewbecause games get to late game so often. Idgits.
@@gen.tucker6024 Bruh he did become strong even afetr 2 solo kills he could solo kill garen. And before you say thats only cuz he overstayed, yes thats indeed how every champ works from behind unless your a tank. You get back in the game from behind with wave manipulation, ganks or enemy mistakes. Or do you want Darius to be able to duel another dueling champ from behind?
says Garen W isn't balanced, while maining Darius who's W + passive wins any 1v1 in toplane without any skill needed, ok bro, ok...
Exactly. Every darius I play against just waits in the bush level 1 its literally like a ritual they have to perform😂 trying to get that juicy 5 auto attack kill
It is true but garen is beyond that right now. He really needs a nerv.
@@Gehweggg…. That’s what you do when you know your lvl 1 is stronger…. If you don’t do that that’s a skill issue
@@nimrodszocs2795 I'm not saying else
bro complained he couldnt towerdive a full health bruiser with damage reduct w with more items wow
"best darius in the world" crying about garen kekw what is this, how high elo players can be so delusional it's insane. He wants to pick vayne it's disgusting
The classic cerebral palsy "come on them" made me smile 😀
17:16 if kesha and the bauffs had a baby
This is funny
bro cried about dying to garen when he legit dove (high risk high reward play)🥶🥶🥶🥶
crazy how he plays from level 1 like he is 10 levels ahead because Darius allows it and he complains about Garen
@@thomasb5307 So Garen players should never complain about anything too.
@@FrenzyGamingTV Haven't seen Garen players waiting lvl 1 in a bush and ghost to rundown their opponent in the middle of the wave as soon as they see him, either get first blood or hard win the trade, then deny farm for the rest of the laning phase.
But right now Garen is rly strong so yeh they can't complain much
@@thomasb5307 If you are getting cheesed like that, maybe you should consider playing better next time.
@@FrenzyGamingTV I don't, for the simple reason that I am not a toplaner, but even I get disgusted when I see what Darius can do.
And this is not a low elo cheese, if you watch Adam in soloQ he finds ways to force lvl 1 extended trades even in GM - Challenger (btw his OPGG says that his Darius stomped Erislash Garen yesterday and I'd love to see the VoD of this game)
6:26 bro legit described his champion, darius
The darius dude is quite pathethic to be honest. He says it himself : the W makes garen meta, and then he goes on to say they should fix it? oh? so Garen is supposed to be unplayable? alright buddy. Go touch grass
In high elo yes,
@@monkey3101 Why
Garen is over powered right now though.
He is not OP, only high elo garen players are OLD Garen mains or OTPs, otherwise he is just picked as counterpick and like any champ can be picked like that besides he has negative WR in high elo anyways
@@stefanandrejcik571 huh? You must be very out of touch with the meta. He's been highly contested in competitive and one of the strongest blind pickable top laners for a while now.
Its funny when the Top 1 is constantly ranting and complaining, meanwhile you just chilling
most sane darius player - rages when hes not completely stomping
So sad that riot deleted Garen's voice lines after killing Darius(
What was it
@@alexkovas557 they are still in the game but moved to "after killing a champion"
@@SKORPIO_228 what's the voice line
@@alexkovas557 bro, just check "Garen's interactions" or something, I don't remember them all
You are a perfect example of garen good slash
I remember seeing one of your first videos where you flamed quite a bit and I thought "He is good, but also kinda toxic". But since then you have been one of if not the most positive and likeable League RUclipsr :D
Hope you will get more views soon, you deserve it!
Also I am learning a lot by watching you. Had to play against a master Gwen OTP yesterday (I am low Emerald). Usually I hard lose this matchup but after watching you for the last year, I was able to destroy her in lane and carry the game. Probably also helped that Garen is OP right now, but I still felt I played it well
that darius sure whines and moans a lot for someone who made basic mistakes
The best darius in the world vs the best garen of all history
Gabungking is not here man
3:22 that level up is a plot twist man
Every time😂
Great game, a memorable game, especially the Darius reactions
17:42 baus is looking a bit different, did he got a new haircut?
Why is it so satisfying to see that toxic Darius rage
virgin darius yapper / chad garen enjoyer
but it's kinda understandable, playing darius does some things to you man, you get cucked so many times in general because no mobility + short range
when i'm playing morde/garen it's mostly chill but when i'm on darius i just wanna punch my monitor when anything goes wrong even once
No mobility? i mean i get that q speed isnt that much or easy to prock but in top where you 1v1 into meele a lot i would count w slow and e towards mobility. Mobility is all about how much more do you have than the enemy not actually how much do you have compared to a standard. And also he is able to take 2 mobility summs so i feel like he has some at least. comparable to garen imo. Range is similar to garen too no?
@@abelboronkai448 I'm talking about playing darius in general, you can't go over walls (honestly it's absolutely criminal how many champs can go over walls in this game), can't force plays on enemies without sums etc. And he is not "able" to take 2 mobility sums, he HAS to take 2 mobility sums as a crutch to fix his kit because there's so much shit in this game to kite/outrange/cc him. All this stuff combined is kinda hard on your mental
@@WattaPork first part, your absolutely right. But about the summs i would still argue. He heals and out dmgs most others so no need for exhaust. Bleed acts like an ignite in some reagrds so no need for that one either. Maybe he is forced but he is still strong even after being forced to do it
@@abelboronkai448no. He can’t take teleport for macro plays, and his passive isn’t like ignite. At that point you could say liandry’s is ignite too. It isn’t. It’s in his kit, and not true damage, and doesnt have healing reduction
Darius players when they don't get to kill you pre lvl 4: broken champion, has no counter play :d
no counterplay? xd!
The two look exactly like a garen player and a darius player 😂😂 wp
I love how these streamers get so frustrated and whining every time. And then comes this “Naisuuuuuu naisuuuu!”
5:00 where is the fun fact?
mb I kinda trolled, forgor to add it. well its there now :)
I saw that live, fantastic game! Making Rank 1 Darius say he'll go Vayne next time is priceless 😂
It’s good to see two really good players go at it 😂😂😂😂
Bruh, his crying and whinig was so funny! :D GG DEMACIA!!! LETS GO!
I love to see the match up of Darius vs Garen it just feels right to see top laners actually play top laners also gl for challenger!
When I tell my friends that Darius players don't know how to play against Garen they don't believe me
I'm gonna show them this video lol
Yo King thanks for motivating me to play garen, i play garen been along time but now i feel really motivated to get rank 1 with him in my region
This was so satisfying to watch
Bro, this Darius otp is such a baby. Inted 2 times in lane and then, after getting ahead, ints again and just cries about it
Actually the God King match up
Best Garen vs Best Darius
What a game
darius player saying "it's not balanced" will never not be funny
If you tell me a few years ago that Darius player will be complaining about the Garen matchup I would think you're crazy. But here we are.
Awesome game, always have to remember that Darius is scary even if you're up like a thousand gold.
God king garen vs God king darius it could not get more iconic than that man. Demacia is victorious!!!!!!!!!!!! NICESU
Erislash. You are awesome dude.
It's so cool to me that you take the time to answer questions about the game.
I have one myself. Do you think Eclips (bamis) Q max phase rush has a place in some high elo games?
Yoo thank you :)
As for the build, I dont really think its that good because if you build thoes items its gonna take you a really long time to get some actual speed items which Garen really needs for macro and teamfighting. I understand that eclipse is good for short trades but Id rather go the meta build :D
this is great to see. i always feed my ass off into this match up xD
That guy actually kinda looks like irl noxus villain
Really makes you think about why the best Darius in the entire world only plays Darius in 36% of his games.
Great vid. Both gameplay and mental. I love this new "meta" of positive streamers. So much more fun to watch.
I was so distgusted by the darius toxic yapping i could barely watch it. And im not saying i never do that (altough i hope not this much). But streamers should hold a standard. lets not forget this is a game. games are supposed to be enjoyed.
bro looks like kesha but mentally stable
Garen is definitely getting some nerfs soon, he has bounced in popularity and people finally catch up to how broken this shit is
Hashinshin quit league, so we got his brother right here
nice game, I like this kind of game, tense one where 1 pick on the map switch the whole game around. good job
Great game. I have a question: there were multiple times, in teamfights, where you could've flashed, or even walked, onto MF, but you didn't, may I ask you why? I'm genuinely curious.
been waiting for this since the stream
Chad garen Vs incel darius
bro is complaining and losing vs garen.
satisfying
super talented playing garen
Lore accurate matchup also with matching skins
did he say im up 10 cs, like getting gold from minion gives u extra xp what
Darius player complains about Garen 😭🙏
That was a sick game!
Darius complaining is really funny
I hate it when people don't own up to their mistakes and just say the other champion is broken and has no counterplay. First death he got FUNDAMENTALS'd and on the second he missed his E and didn't respect that he was in kill range. Like both deaths are your own fault, buddy, just take the L and learn from the experience...
No way this is rank1 Darius,he plays like Emerald😂😂😂
I think Flash is for offense, not for escaping
If he didn't flash the early darius flash he dies there bro
Imagine if garens ult reset 5 times
The weird arm 😂😂😂😂
Darius player: how can garen be that strong, is unbeatable 😭😭
*proceeds to dive him 1 min later while being 2 kills and 1 lvl behind and still keeps like 20% of his HP
strongest Darius player mental lol
Darius x Garen nowadays is a skill matchup
nope, still heavily favors Darius. If he doesn't play like a dumbass he outscales Garen anyways
I mean I agree that Garen is not balanced rn, but you really can’t yap about Garen being broken every 10 seconds while literally playing a fucking Darius lol.
He is right tho, there is very little counter play to Garen right now
My man is crying while losing on a Darius saying he should have played vayne top. Speaks volumes. Dude is everything wrong with top lane right now.
Nice video! Heaphone name?
Thank you :)
The headphones I’m using are called: Razer blackshark v2 pro (2023)
lmao average darius reaction when they can't do 100% of your hp in one 3 second combo at level 3
Raider could have just sat there and denied farm, but chose to lobotomize himself and dive a Garen. Complains the whole lane when he fed the guy a kill because he let his ego get the better of him.
W strong put it’s got a 23 second cooldown 😂
23 seconds for a dr, passive and active defense stat boost, tenacity and shield with ZERO drawbacks. It's not long enough to be fair. Should be MUCH longer for a stacked ability like that. All other drs have some downplay to it either slowed, forced to be stationary, directional, or a long cd ultimate.
You can tell he's a Darius main just by the way he talks, he's so whiny lmfao
is the berserker start back or just in this match up?
Its depends on the matchup. Speed vs darius is one of the most important stats so I like to get boots early. Its harder for him to 100-0 you if you just run away :)
garen is really balanced SAYS A DARIUS MAIN :DDDDDD
That darius player needs to get gud. Lol
Average Darius player when they can't one shot someone by facerolling 4 buttons:)
hhahaha our Garen fks anyone up!!!
Its crazy what a crybaby that darius is, he is acting like it is the first time he has to play against garen without the necessary info beforehand as challenger, like wtf.
wtf i thought this was kesha
thats insane that the rank 1 darius abuser is that much of a cry baby
Good game, though why were you focusing Leona in many of those last teamfights? 15:26 just one example, karthus and MF are right there but you go for leona
And thats why garen is one of the easiest champion to use and newbie friendly
Why do you auto E when trading against darius and use your Q to run away/go on the inner part of his Q? Why don't you just AA Q E everytime and proc phase rush?
Its a slightly safer way to trade into darius. With aa Q E to proc phase rush, he will run with you and hook you back in after the silence ends and then you are stuck close to him without Q or phase rush. If you instead aa E and then Q his W slow and into his Q before quickly running away, you still have speed from Q to run away and if he hooks you back in, you just connect the Q to proc phase rush and then you can escape with a good trade.
@@ErislashIm actually using all of your advices for every garen matchup bro , thx for the good content and keep up 🙏🏻
Where's the fan fact?
I forgor to add it, but its there now :)
Fan fact: if you let your fan powered on for 500 days, it'll overheat and die
It is actually playable to play vs fed darius, than fed garen. 0 counterplay against hardest combo
Raider says he goes vayne top vs garen next time.
Holy this guy is THE scum of top lane.
If we need to nerf garden W then We would need to nerf Darius passive lol
what a cool garen player (cnr)
I dont get how you can be rank 1 anything and not get that CS doesn't mean XP. Like yeah you let CS go but you didn't leak any XP and you shoved a wave and he didn't .Why didn't he expect to be behind in XP? AND OF COURSE THE SECOND HE HOLDS HIS CDs AND WAITS FOR YOU TO USE YOUR STUFF HE GET THE KILL. Absolute crybaby lol. I love darius but if this is the Rank 1 Darius player this does not bode well for champ rep.
Darius walks under tower and then complains that garen kills him?
You look like the uncracked version of Keshia.
gay dude crying about garen while playing one of the biggest garen counters
using gay as an insult in 2024 is wild
@@bolognious2263 u sound gay bro
@@bolognious2263 always was, always will be
@@bolognious2263 it's our responsibility to remind LGBT people where their place is (spoiler, there is no place in our society for them)
@@bolognious2263 Yes it is an insult i would prefer to be called bitch than Gay