the pirates trick is particularly good in your first visit to port royal, since you can get the 3 drive you need and there's a save point nearby, which refunds your drive meter if you access the world map just set Jack to Sora Attack and load him up with potions for safety
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 Wisdom: Timeless River Master: Okay, I don't know who else knows about this. Go to Halloween Town, and lure the jack-in-the-box heartless to near the Merry-go-round. Make sure they go idle near it, as they probably won't flinch in that state. Go to the side of the Merry-go-round opposite of that heartless, and spin it. Since they won't flinch, they'll rapidly take hits, spawning a whole bunch of Drive Orbs to maintain your form and to level it up. It's really tedious and inconsistent to do though. (Works on Vanilla PS2) Or you could equip Drive Converter and do the Card Nobody method (2FM though).
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 for master, you can do the card minigame with the gambler's two loading screens down from the top Yen Sids's tower with drive converter, or you can go to land of dragons and destroy the breakable objects on the snowy mountain from the save point before the cave. Hopefully that makes sense, I haven't played in awhile.
...I'd wish we could take Valor form for final xemnas, imagine the level curve, every single shot blocked from sora counts as a combo, based on the reaction commands
Actually you can use it on any boss, ( besides pride lands) just make sure you have,"drive boost, damage drive some combo plus type keyblades while you are leveling up valor.
Actually you can use it on any boss, ( besides pride lands) just make sure you have,"drive boost, damage drive some combo plus type keyblades while you are leveling up valor.
The old pirates online game also didn't allow you to use guns on living humanoids (undead humanoids and animals were okay), even though bombing them, and voodoo hexing them was perfectly fine.
@@DrakeLightheart So i guess that means heartless bosses too? then what does that mean for the disney villains you fight? can someone see if they count towards heartless count?
@@kenopisentoro8613 probably because its not intended to be used that way. If they saw it on a version of the game that wasn't meant to be there, makes sense they would remove that since its not in any other version beforehand or after
To get to that point in the game you have to finish every single other 2nd world visit. You should've gotten the Agrabah Mushroom way before then. It's an interesting bit none the less, but I can only see it being useful in fringe cases for a randomizer run.
I just killed those infinite bird heartless in mulan world did wisdom form in the monochrome world in that HUGE big square room. unlocked that last one spamming the yellow form in the arena. Have people forgotten the ps2 days?
That's a good trick using the pirates' invulnerability, to get the hits needed to level up valor form. The MCP trick was a genuine surprise, because it's counting those individual beam hits.
It's a bit later in the game but a place you can max out all of your current drive forms to their limit based on your level is the Christmas Town Lock Shock and Barrel fight. They don't deal a lot of damage, don't have much health, each drop a resource of either hp, mp, or drive orbs upon being knocked out, and the battle continues until you trap all three in presents instead of depleting their health so you can continually farm them for drive orbs, go into a drive form and take them out for experience, and do it again. When I went into the fight I fought them for probably about an hour just grinding my drive forms.
For any form, you can just leave the world while transformed and it resets you back to normal while reverting your drive gauge back to full. You can just do that while moving from the first save in “the world that never was” to the second one right after the fight with Roxas and you’ll max out every one after a while.
This is just like when I found out for wisdom form that beating the experiment contributes one point, because at the time I didn't get the memo it technically counts as a heartless.
Innnnnnnteresting. I knew about the pirates but I didn't think the MCP would count. I always have Valor form at max by that time so I never thought to try it
I'd just now beat the game, forge all ultima weapons for "Sora, Donald and Goofy", found all the treasure chests (except the one you get after beating all data organization members) and puzzle pieces, maxed out all drive forms and summons, and beaten all 5 absent silhouettes!
if you DO need to level up your valor form go to the area outside the palace in Land of Dragons. the heartless there are great for it. what helped me when i was 8:)
The way the first one works for those who don't know is this. Valor levels through any hits meaning these fast hits through attacking the mcp count for one exp. It's super fast so that's why it levels so fast.
These are genius. Although to be fair I never had MUCH trouble leveling Valor while progressing the story. Especially at the beginning when it's the only thing you can spend Drive on. I just randomly use it on maps and boss fights and it maxes pretty easily, especially if combined with cutscenes that break up the party and therefore refill your Drive gauge. If anything, I'd love for a good place to level up the last stretch, after getting Final Form (aka, endgame). Best I found was the centaurs in the corridor that goes to the palace in Land of Dragons. Equip weak Keyblades so they can take as many hits as possible and just smack them around until they die, exit to world, repeat. And it's not exactly efficient, fast or fun...
You know, I never considered leveling Valor on the MCP because it's usually maxed out by the time I get to that fight in a casual playthrough. That's a good place to do it though!
Or you just go to Agrabah cave of wonders lol. But the mcp one still shocks me. I just found out yesterday because one of bloodybizkits randomizer streams lol
I mean, the Agrabah mushroom is still better. These are just tricks for early in the game. After you finish Agrabah's second visit, that's still the best place. You're not going to have level 7 Valor just off of pirates and MCP
I did that in hallow bastion outside merlins just kill everyone the head back in merlins before the gauge was out and leave the world it would reset the quage and was pretty quick infinite form technically
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the pirates trick is particularly good in your first visit to port royal, since you can get the 3 drive you need and there's a save point nearby, which refunds your drive meter if you access the world map
just set Jack to Sora Attack and load him up with potions for safety
I think you just accidentally discovered the best way grind valor form in the original kh2. Got any other tricks for wisdom or master?
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
Wisdom: Timeless River
Master: Okay, I don't know who else knows about this. Go to Halloween Town, and lure the jack-in-the-box heartless to near the Merry-go-round. Make sure they go idle near it, as they probably won't flinch in that state. Go to the side of the Merry-go-round opposite of that heartless, and spin it. Since they won't flinch, they'll rapidly take hits, spawning a whole bunch of Drive Orbs to maintain your form and to level it up. It's really tedious and inconsistent to do though. (Works on Vanilla PS2)
Or you could equip Drive Converter and do the Card Nobody method (2FM though).
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 for master, you can do the card minigame with the gambler's two loading screens down from the top Yen Sids's tower with drive converter, or you can go to land of dragons and destroy the breakable objects on the snowy mountain from the save point before the cave. Hopefully that makes sense, I haven't played in awhile.
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 I found The World That Never Was to be good for wisdom with the swarm of basic shadow heartless
Wait.... you can level up Valor Form from with the "Delete" reaction command????
The pirates were a pretty ok trick, but the Boss from Space Paranoids was a genuine shock to me. I never thought you could use the fight for that. Lol
It's even weirder when you realize it's just a reaction command with multiple hits rather than a standard attack
...I'd wish we could take Valor form for final xemnas, imagine the level curve, every single shot blocked from sora counts as a combo, based on the reaction commands
Muffin Mythos same here
Most agreed. My mouth drop when I saw that.
Actually you can use it on any boss, ( besides pride lands) just make sure you have,"drive boost, damage drive some combo plus type keyblades while you are leveling up valor.
Anybody remember the old days when going into a drive form halted battle for like 4 seconds
Yes you had to pause the game and then unpause for it to finish loading.
@@Super_Suchi It was DEFINITELY a PS3 issue. PS2 had a fast load and PS4 was almost instantaneous.
NarakunoHana100 I dunno if it could even get any quicker on ps5 😳
Ps2: fast, but not too fast
Ps3: Takes ages
Ps4: quick as a flash
PS5: haha, sora go *bbbrrrrrr*
Ps5: quotes interrupted by the attack after transform lol
I just finished maxing out valor form on the mushroom, ffs.
@ピーチティー Yeah it's just
The MPC thing was a shocker.
This is more for randomizer runs where mushroom is unavailable
Actually you can use it on any boss, ( besides pride lands) just make sure you have,"drive boost, damage drive some combo plus type keyblades while you are leveling up valor.
I actually did it ON mushrooms
Lmao I love how the energy of this is as if you couldn't do it again in the future. Something about that feeling is just funny to me idk
Wow.
I had no idea about this. But since leveling up Valor is based on hits, it kinda makes sense.
Sora: *starts to wail on the invincible pirate
Pirate: **Pulls out the kid-friendly equivalent of a gun*
Kinda ironic they "censored" that when we have games like Fortnite the kids play on everything
@@VentusFury Barbossa uses a gun in his fight and Clayton too in KH1 so its kinda odd.
@@Quickword15 true, it's kinda stupid to censor the musket but not the flintlocks or Clayton's double barrel shotgun
I am several years late to this party but I *just* noticed on rewatching this video that the crossbows still make a gun noise
The old pirates online game also didn't allow you to use guns on living humanoids (undead humanoids and animals were okay), even though bombing them, and voodoo hexing them was perfectly fine.
Are you joking with me that the MCP reaction command counts as hit for Valor? GENIUS!
OOOORRAAAAA!!
it's actually interesting how some of the form requirements work, for example, Org 13 members count towards Final Form's exp.
@@DrakeLightheart I mean, that makes sense.
@@DrakeLightheart So i guess that means heartless bosses too? then what does that mean for the disney villains you fight? can someone see if they count towards heartless count?
@@sonictj3 yep heartless bosses count towards wisdom's, no clue about Disney's, they might count as well
I wish valor form counted hits while riding a skateboard
It does in base jp kh2
@@imp963 why did they changed it
@@kenopisentoro8613 probably because its not intended to be used that way. If they saw it on a version of the game that wasn't meant to be there, makes sense they would remove that since its not in any other version beforehand or after
Sora: -gets shot-
The game: *good job, son, keep it up*
legend has it that stickman sham is still discovering new gameplay mechanics in kh till this day
and the legends were true
Did anyone else find the pirates extremely annoying to fight?
they suck regardless but yeah thunder/blizzard spam makes them instantly melt
@@perkypears Even under shade?
@@judahosborne8868 sadly no. but blizzard freezes them so you can stop them from walking into shade if you catch them fast enough
Literally finished pt.2 of That world, would of took me a shorter if it weren’t for those damn pirates shooting at me every chance they got.
tbh they aren't that difficult, and i surprisingly found them less annoying on critical mode than i did on proud mode
I always did the Port Royale thing.
The MCP thing, though. Not only is that practical, that’s hilarious.
Except when you try it and all you get is anti form
MCP: Is that the best a user can do?
Stickman Sham: *YES*
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Players: "And yet, you're losing, MCP. Your point being?"
Who would've thought that abusing your triangle button helps you level up your Drive Form.
The Space Paranoids trick is actually really cool can get you a pretty early lead until you farm the mushroom in Agrabah later
To get to that point in the game you have to finish every single other 2nd world visit. You should've gotten the Agrabah Mushroom way before then.
It's an interesting bit none the less, but I can only see it being useful in fringe cases for a randomizer run.
I’m sorry, you’re telling me those counted as hits this whole time?
you can level up final by killing org members
you can level up wisdom with bosses
Wisdom form is based off kills.... so why would you do it on bosses.
LucLeader Gaming Same with final form
because its possible and a good flex
@@lucleadergaming3487 why not
@@lucleadergaming3487 wisdom levels up killing heartless, as long a boss is a heartless, it counts
I just killed those infinite bird heartless in mulan world
did wisdom form in the monochrome world in that HUGE big square room.
unlocked that last one spamming the yellow form in the arena. Have people forgotten the ps2 days?
I actually farmed Limit Form for a huge chunk during the 1000 heartless fight by using MP rage and then healing immedialty after with limits
The 1,000 Heartless battle is perfect for farming Limit Form.
I've played this game so many times and I never knew this
I appreciate the Valor Form combos almost syncing to the music
Every other day, new things are being discovered for this game...I like that.
Never realized how satisfying hearing the block sound effect and the zombie pirate ‘oh’ are together
Kairi: Hey Sora, how are you so strong?
Sora: Oh, I just let myself get shot a bunch of times.
You know what they say "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"
Why do I found this methods now?
Like, more than 10 years later.
And here I thought I knew everything there was to know about this game. I never would have thought to do that against the MCP.
That's a good trick using the pirates' invulnerability, to get the hits needed to level up valor form. The MCP trick was a genuine surprise, because it's counting those individual beam hits.
Absolute mad lad, didn't even think to do this.
I'll be damned.
The Space Paranoids thing never occured to me but seeing it now is like " *head smack* duh "
Sheesh this game and it's hidden secrets
That first one with the Tron canon was big brain moment
Oddly interesting information for something so arbitrary.
Very nice
It's a bit later in the game but a place you can max out all of your current drive forms to their limit based on your level is the Christmas Town Lock Shock and Barrel fight. They don't deal a lot of damage, don't have much health, each drop a resource of either hp, mp, or drive orbs upon being knocked out, and the battle continues until you trap all three in presents instead of depleting their health so you can continually farm them for drive orbs, go into a drive form and take them out for experience, and do it again. When I went into the fight I fought them for probably about an hour just grinding my drive forms.
This is something I wish I had when I started my Keyless Hearts 2 challenge run.
For any form, you can just leave the world while transformed and it resets you back to normal while reverting your drive gauge back to full.
You can just do that while moving from the first save in “the world that never was” to the second one right after the fight with Roxas and you’ll max out every one after a while.
Talk about going that unknown mile just for this information.
I legit look at all of your vids to get gud at KH. 👍🏽 You rock.
The valor of the drive form is a pathway to many abilities some may consider unnatural.
This is just like when I found out for wisdom form that beating the experiment contributes one point, because at the time I didn't get the memo it technically counts as a heartless.
>drive form gauge stops dropping during RUNNING EXECUTE
damn son
I NEVER THOUGHT THE HITS COUNTED UNLESS THEY ACTUALLY HIT
Fucking genius on the MCP fight
Using the NPC to level up valor from is fucking genius.
From my second favorite kingdom hearts game I forgot how to level up the forms
I already had Valor leveled fully but I did not know these existed
I've played this game religiously since it came out (at least twice a year) and I never knew these xD
I used to run up and down the long tunnel in the underworld to level valor form
I'm so pissed that I didn't think of these
Oh this is worth subscribing for
I always saw the MPC trick on the KHwiki and I being meaning to do it but I keep forgetting, good to see that it's actually true
Knew about the Pirates one, but the MCP one is kind of an ingenious little Easter egg. Amazing how we keep finding things in this game 15 years later.
That’s actually really useful
Innnnnnnteresting. I knew about the pirates but I didn't think the MCP would count. I always have Valor form at max by that time so I never thought to try it
Nice to know I didn't have to lock 3 children in Santa's workshop and smack them silly to level up
I used to beat up the org fungi at the end of the cave of wonders: it was risk free and it always gave some loot
I'd just now beat the game, forge all ultima weapons for "Sora, Donald and Goofy", found all the treasure chests (except the one you get after beating all data organization members) and puzzle pieces, maxed out all drive forms and summons, and beaten all 5 absent silhouettes!
thank you mr stickman
i didnt even think the mcp boss could help with valor
Pirates seem unsafe, but the tron one is pretty good.
the pirates one is alright if you give jack potions and set him to sora attack; he'll parry a bunch of the hits and potion you as needed
if you DO need to level up your valor form go to the area outside the palace in Land of Dragons. the heartless there are great for it. what helped me when i was 8:)
The way the first one works for those who don't know is this. Valor levels through any hits meaning these fast hits through attacking the mcp count for one exp. It's super fast so that's why it levels so fast.
I never knew that for the MPC! I just hit the Mushroom in Agrabah until it's maxed out.
These are genius.
Although to be fair I never had MUCH trouble leveling Valor while progressing the story. Especially at the beginning when it's the only thing you can spend Drive on. I just randomly use it on maps and boss fights and it maxes pretty easily, especially if combined with cutscenes that break up the party and therefore refill your Drive gauge.
If anything, I'd love for a good place to level up the last stretch, after getting Final Form (aka, endgame). Best I found was the centaurs in the corridor that goes to the palace in Land of Dragons. Equip weak Keyblades so they can take as many hits as possible and just smack them around until they die, exit to world, repeat.
And it's not exactly efficient, fast or fun...
I might try these out
Stickman, you're gonna give me a heart attack
I guess I can take a break from bullying the mushrooms for a day.
I had read that experience increases with each hit dealt so for the game this is considered a hit
Seeing this video I realized I never used any drive forms in Space Paranoid. Sora does look cool glowing in other colors
"Party members suck they never heal me".
Forget these weird ways to level up Valor form, I didn't know you could go to Port Royal without first going to Disney Castle.
Donald wasn't in the party so Wisdom wouldn't show up as an option
He is even using the timeless river keyblade
You open my mind
Very interesting stuff.
Meanwhile my lazy ass will just stick to getting to the mass amount of heartless at the Skyscraper before maxing Valor.
It pretty cool but I think I'll just stick to the radiant garden trick for level up most of my forms and summons
I did the Tron one on my third playthrough. I think I leveled Valor three times during that fight and was laughing my ass off by the end of it.
2020 still finding out new stuff you can do in kh2 God I love this game
Oh wow. That Tron cheat is genius
This video made me want to play kh2 again
Well, I learned something new today haha
I always beat the bosses in the Tron world with Valor when I was a kid because I like red.
You know, I never considered leveling Valor on the MCP because it's usually maxed out by the time I get to that fight in a casual playthrough. That's a good place to do it though!
Who literally ever needs tricks to level Valor form? I always level that one without even trying.
I didn't even know those counted as hits
Definitely never thought that whiffing through immunity would count, and apparently neither did the devs.
Its almost up there with the "Leave World for Full Drive Bar" exploit.
@@Mike_Dubo to be fair I didn't know about this exploit until I read up on it for playing 2fm on ps4 and going through mushrooms for the first time.
I knew as soon as I saw them mention this in Bl00dy's stream and you in the chat I'd see this somewhere here
That led me to think, what's the attack with most hits you can do while in valor?
Or you just go to Agrabah cave of wonders lol. But the mcp one still shocks me. I just found out yesterday because one of bloodybizkits randomizer streams lol
Man this game aged well
Now all the Agrabah Mushroom is good for is Limit Form unless you can find a new way to do so that's more efficient
I mean, the Agrabah mushroom is still better. These are just tricks for early in the game. After you finish Agrabah's second visit, that's still the best place. You're not going to have level 7 Valor just off of pirates and MCP
Does the HD Remix still have that exploit where if you enter a "rest area" while in Drive Form it removes it but gives you a full bar?
You are a genius
Technically hits are connecting
I wish my goofy healed me that often
Wow got new subscriber this will come in handy
Still the most satisfying game play in all kingdom hearts
I swear this community always ends up making me say "wait that works?"
The pirates and the MCP are heartless?!
Valor form only requires hits, doesn't matter on who.
simplemente épico, tengo que empezar a jugar el 2, yo ahora estoy haciendo una pasada al kingdom hearts 1 y lo estoy subiendo
un gran like
It's amazing that well over a decade later we are still learning new stuff about this game lol
Maybe in the strat of pirates you can use wisdom form
Wisdom Form gains exp off Heartless kills specifically.
I did that in hallow bastion outside merlins just kill everyone the head back in merlins before the gauge was out and leave the world it would reset the quage and was pretty quick infinite form technically