TOP BOY Season 3: Who Killed Sully?
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- I review, breakdown and explain Top Boy Season 3 (season 5). I discuss the ending of the Netflix show and answer who killed Sully. I give my theories and predictions on why it happened and what every characters motive would be. I react to it being Jaq, Si, The Irish, Stefan, Aaron and even Ra'Nell.
00:00 Intro
00:28 Jaq
02:18 The Irish
03:20 Si
04:45 Stefan
05:20 Aaron
05:48 Ra'Nell
06:14 Conclusion
07:22 Outro
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Who do you think was behind that fatal final scene? I'm very much leaning towards Jaq! Comment your thoughts below!
Jaq. Was the only way she could get out. Sully would have killed her and her family. Also Jaq knew the only real way to end the drugs was to kill Sully. Prob will be a spin of about Jaq becoming a Women Hero for summerhouse.
It was the Irish, it has to be soon as Jaq sat down that was her out of it. that was her entire character development.
If sully was going to kill her he would have killed her during the riot. he understood the pain she was going through. he literally said this too her and she never lied about stealing it at any point. He was going to let her go. Theres no chance the Irish would let him get away with that, the woman in the nursing home looked so guilty that it would have took 1 visit from the irish to realise sully did it.
Also the irish clearly knew where sully would park when visiting his daughter as it was highlighted they knew sullys daughter by name.
also the irish being only in 3 episodes evidences it more. we were all waiting for the retaliation of the Irish but it never came. Untill the end where they literally execute him. Gangsters like that, literally kill people in that way
it was jaq.. look at how the person walks off there is only 1 person who moves that way.. i think she had her partners scarf thing on her head she was wearing it when jaq got home the night before
Tbh I think leaving it ambiguous leaves it up to the viewer to interpret I don't think the writers had a key character in thier mind who could of killed sully its more to show how the path sully went down lead to more than enough people having ample reason to kill him and that that road always leads to death something shown in every season from kamale, Lee and rakes in season 1 all the way to sully the Moroccans, Dushane, the Irish in the last season
I believe it was someone connected to the Irish
That si scene with the gun in his mouth was one of the most traumatic pieces of film ive ever witnessed.
That was such a dark scene for sure!
@@BrainPilot
That's why I didn't feel sorry for Kieron.
Kieron lied on SI and then showed his true colors begging Sully.
'You see, in their last moments people show you who they really are.' - The Joker Heath Ledger
The curb stomp from American history X takes the cake but this was the most humiliating scene.
@@lebza22 forgot about that one that was brutal too but not as brutal as this in my eyes
That scene almost made me throw up it was so disturbing and disgusting
Can we take a moment to appreciate how much of a fantastic actor Kano has become? For me he had the standout performance out of everyone, particularly in the last 2 seasons. Everytime Sully is on screen he steals the scene.
Preach he's a genuine acting talent he portrayed Sully's inner turmoil throughout so well the passion anger and fear all in his eyes in different scenes was a masterclass from let's face it not a master
When he plays a different role opposite of street life/roadman I will be impressed. Kano has experienced Sully's character directly or indirectly in real life. His acting is decent. If Snoop Dogg plays a character that loves weed are we going to go oh Snoop can act. Let Kano play a completely different role from his life experiences and I will be impressed.
@@targetegratso al Pacino isn’t good cause all he did was be a gangster
When he stood behind that gate talking to Dushane (as he was dying). Even myself, I said he has really come through as an actor and delivered that character so well. The expression on his face as he shed some tears...really exceeded my expectations in him as an actor.
Agreed...from the first season I've been impressed but the last season his performance was off the charts. Would love to see that translate into other roles
I enjoyed the ending. I think Stef got the moral victory by saying you ain’t even worth it, walking off and breaking the cycle of violence and revenge killings, doesn’t become a murderer and ruin his life and Sully died anyway, Stef was probably one of the few objectively good people in the show and he got a relatively decent end. For me, it wasn’t the Irish, or any other gangs who were the antagonists this show, it was Sully and Dushane’s wake of destruction and pain they’d caused on their communities over the years. Caught up with them both.
Stef look like he started selling drugs right after lol
Sully was a true monster. Who ever did it had 100% a very good reason, he had to go. One of my favorite characters ever.
Hundred 💯
@@doves9204 Yeah but in the first two seasons (Summerhouse) he was also extremely cold. Then in Season 3 to 4 (Can't remember which episodes) he kind of battled with himself to get on a redemption ark but lost it. From then on he basically just down spiraled. It's like character developement, only that its character deterioration in his case 😅 By the time of his death I had a feeling that he knew something could happen at any moment
@@doves9204yeah you really saw him dying and the greed taking over really good writing and acting.
@cheatingscoobydoofor me that's even Sully finally left the building. Such callousness.
@@doves9204 I liked both of their deaths. They died for what they were, low life goons. Still love both of those characters, but something over cinematic would have killed the vibe. They were shady and grim deaths. I love the lines "Why didn't you come to me?" and Dushane yells"Come to YOU?!" over the gate, like bruh you're even way worse than me. Also it was clear to me for a long time that those two are not friends. That just confirmed it. The dialogues from them also feel so real, like those videos of ex gangsters talking about how stuff went down in real life.
This season should of been atleast 8 or 10 episodes felt like it was over too quick but still was pretty good just feel like for a finale it disappointed
Yeah 8 episodes would have definitely been better!
COULD NOT AGREE MORE
@BrainPilot 1 extra ep for the Irish and 1 with the perspective of the people that took the money (I forgot there names)
@@aquaonyt9035lizzy and lith
Really? I think shit hit the fan quick, and I loved it haha.
Season 1 was Jamie’s season
Season 2 was Dushanes season
Season 3 was sullys season
True!
Season 1 and 2 Was Dris, Sully and Dushane Season 3 is Jamie Season 4 Is Dushane Season 5 Is Sully
Huh you must be young Jamie wasn't in season 1 fam
Real ones know it was dris dushane n sully in summerhouse the first season
@@lindseychartier511 exactly
Its so crazy how I can feel no remorse for either of the two main characters of a show
Crazy isn’t it!
thats how they want you to feel, felt sad for jamie tho he was def the best character
@@tingyeelai8man I could've cried real tears for how Jamie was taken out. I was hoping he was gonna survive but he didn't 😢
@@tingyeelai8 same I felt sad for Jamie, Jamie stef and Aaron were my favourites.
Sully and Dushane got exactly what they deserved icl
The thing that interests me the most is why Sully told Tash that he had to go away for some time. I think he knew a lot of different people were going to attempt to kill him. The only thing that ever stopped Sully from getting killed was Dushane, and vice versa. I don’t think it was Jaq, I think it is absolutely whoever the viewer wants it to be. That’s the point. It’s like All Quiet on the Western Front, the point being there is no dramatic climax finish, no happy endings, nothing, just inevitable death.
Spot on just finished watching and I agree with this. (Every dog has his day) and we all knew it was coming for sully.
*The saddest thing this season for me* was the care home shootout and that old guy’s reaction when his son got clapped by Sully.. he had dementia and he’d seen his son for the first time in years on his birthday - - then Sully shoots his son in the neck and he’s just looks so confused as to what’s happening.. the Irish storyline was *WASTED* man
how is dushanes death not the saddest for u smh
@regukarwhiteguy691611
1) bro sold crack to his own community
2) threatened innocent people
3) ruined lives
4) cared only about himself
I did feel sad but that’s cos the show came to an end. Dushane, wasn’t worth much sympathy.
@@firstlast9846lol didn’t the Irish want to be partners and died due to this reason 🤣 so what if the old man seen them die they were apart of it. Come off it mate.
Yh the Irish story was under developed but also not needed every season we get a sub plot about the suppliers getting capped or stolen for they really could of left that part out and developed stefan story sully story with stefan and sully and dushanes full story we've never really seen these guys at odds with each other to a fuller extent something I though we'd see in a top boy season 3 before they brought it back and renamed the other 2 seasons to summerhouse
So Lauryn dying due to a heroin od and leaving her kid motherless ( not really because the kid has jaq and becks ) isn’t the saddest thing?
I think an important detail is that whoever shoots Sully carries on walking and no one else follows - if it was anyone who was part of an organisation that stood to gain money from Sully's death (e.g. Irish or any other gang) they would have picked up the two bags that were in his car (just like Sully and Dushane picked them up after the care home shootout). This kind of suggests that whoever it was did it for personal reasons rather than eliminating a business rival. Judging by the body language of the killer and the context of the last few episodes I would guess it was Jaq but I think the point is that it doesn't really matter who it was, all that matters in the end is that if you lead this kind of life, your actions will catch up to you. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Bro took it personal
exactly it doesnt actually matter who it was, it reminded me of the sopranos ending but we actually get to see his death. being top boy involved having all those enemies and it was never going to be a happy ending
Good point about not taking the bags it was purely to get rid of a dangerous person. I firmly believe it was Jaq
I say it was Simon as he says to stef on the balcony sully has to go
Why wouldn’t the irish do it purely for revenge?
There is an endless list of potential suspects who took the shot. It was never meant to be known. This was a brilliant series. Incredible acting. i will miss this show for sure.
If you actually watch the show you know that the shooter ran like jaq does it was easy to see I knew right away when they started hustling away from sully that they moved exactly like jaq I don't think they were hiding it
@@justinf401? The person clearly walked away not ran and the frame/body type of the person was masculine, and yes the original comment is right it's very likely that we arnt ever meant to know who did it, I'm not saying it wasn't jaq it could have been her but I'm Just saying that was not the actor that played jaqs in that scean it was obviously a stand in (some random actor who didn't pay any of the chambers) who did it this way it would be impossible for the viwers to link it to any of the actual characters in the show based on things like the way they walk, their hight, their body shape or even the outfit they had on
Jaq did it. Sully let her know that she wasn’t going to get a pass. And Sully does what he says he’s going to do. Sully always delivers on his promises
For me it’s Si, he knew sully killed Jamie, he probably knew stef was going after sully and followed him. And went to get him done out . I don’t think it’s jaq just for the fact that she couldn’t have known where he was , while Si could of been following stef
exactly, Si shadowing Stef makes the most sense
Jaq probably knew as much about Sully’s life as Dushane she was there from day one plus Stef knew where he was I wouldn’t doubt that Jaq would also know
100% Si that guy loved Jamie and showed love to Stef if Stef didn’t do it and it was Si
What after sucking sullys gun like a dick and throwing up blood. I think si was a broken man after that
I'd like to think it was Si. Especially after the gun in his mouth scene. That was horrific and humiliating.
Why didn’t they link the Irish family to Lizzie? Makes way more sense. I like the show but this season felt really rushed. Jaq taking the food was dumb too, made no sense after her sister betraying them
Bro I was thinking the same. They could have connected lizzie to the Irish. Make them more relevant
Yea that would have been perfect.. I don't know what happened with these writers this season
I was thinking the exact same thing. What a wasted opportunity. Lizzie being associated with them would make sense rather than them appearing out of nowhere to be friends with Sully.
Literally! I thought I was smart and figured out that Lizzy disappeared the same time the Irish family started making moves
it makes total sense what jaqs did, she was going through a mental break and had a manic episode in response to seeing her sister die to the same drugs she was putting out and then seeing the effect it was having on people first hand. it fked with her and the show actually portrays her feelings really well like this.
Leaving the show's ending ambiguous like that, about who killed Sully, was a genius move! Awesome show overall!
Yeah I agree - i'm a big fan of that ending!
its definitly Jaq 10000 % look at her bombers jacket with the pocker on the left arm watch the scene with her girlfriend when she just come back ( at 44 min 09 second ) and close the door look closely to her left arm jacket and look a the left arm of the jacket's killer its the same jacket look at 55 min 04 when sully get killed you can see the same big pocket on her left arm in both scene , its no ambiguous at all bro
Not a big fan,I hate when Shows do those them a Decade later they might reveal who it was but by then I lost interest
I think it being Jaq makes the most sense, but I love the idea of it being Stefan after changing his mind - especially after Jaqs partner said ‘in the real world people make promises then change their mind’
Slow it down it’s her walk and it’s different jacket than Stef more shiny texture
@@Wideout4it's not her walk you can't even tell
it being Stefan who changed his mind would destroy Stefans entire character arc. So for that reason I dont think it was him. The character also seemed to be a male so I dont think it was Jac either. To be fair, I dont think there is a clear answer. It was just one of Sully's many enemies that he created over the years, like the Irish for starters.
@@jpmorganandco-k1y it is lol, she even has the same bomber jacket plus she has a signature bop/walk. its her
@@Ustaleone nahh its Jaq. what would the irish gain from killing sully, or at least in that manner. i think the irish would have rather made sully suffer and make him work like a dog for their money and then kill him to avenge the deaths of the bosses or just tortured him like mad. If you watch closely its Jaq- same build, same jacket, same bop.
It was more likely Jaq. She didn’t get “the pass” and she knew it was either she kills Sully or he kills her eventually.
Sully let her in… tried to get her loyalty & she betrayed him.. twice. We realize that at some point he was being a bit affectionate towards her. He even stepped out of character by letting the whole Lauryn spilling to Leyton thing go. Even after she robbed him, he was considering giving her a pass but she fxcked up the 2nd time by calling Dushane about her meet up with Sully. Which showed she still ultimately owed loyalty to Dushane. That’s why when she got robbed by Dushane, Sully said “you called Dushane and that’s why you don’t get a pass”.
She was desperate to live for Lauryn’s baby & Becky but didn’t have any cash to sustain a new life elsewhere because she returned the drugs she stole. I think she realized she either had to kill sully or be killed. My bet is on Jaq.
It shows its her. You can see her bop when she walks off
how?
ya this is the best analysis but tbh I felt it was obviously jaq based off the way she shot him and her natural body movements after. The part I never understood is why Sully let her live… because he took out Kearin instantly… yet he let jaq go? I dont feel that Sully had a soft spot for Jaq… I wager the writers messed up here in order to just finish the story… another scene where they messed up is Dushanes crime clean up scene… why would dushane think wiping a couple things down is enough to clean a crime scene… this is the guy who got rid of bodies and other evidence by burning them in vehicles. Do you expect me to believe he’d just lose 100 IQ points in an instant?
Why would Dushane hurry out of this mans house? we know his wife isnt coming back… why didt he bag him up and move the body? why just leave the body their to be found??? If this guy goes missing there is no one to report him missing! The problem with this series is the lack of depth in writing and consistency all the way through. Theres clearly some great qualities and good writing but they drop the ball at key moments…
Clearly a man walking away
Without a doubt, it was Jaq. She had the motivation, she expressed that there was nothing to worry about, the person walked just like her, and the person also had a small build like her. It was Jaq.
please find my comment.
it was stef
Yes it was her indeed, and she shot him because he killed kieron
@@GooBer6GaMerit really wasn't
Bruhhhh without a doubt, the hair color is not the same at all... Even the description says it's a ghost from his past meaning it's no one we've this season
It was definitely Jaq. The scene when she comes home to Becks, she tells Becks that everything will be alright. Now we all know Sully isn’t gonna give her a pass so the only way her family will be safe is if she ends Sully
Jaq or Si are the strongest theories I think. Jaq for obvious reasons and Si because Stef would’ve told him he didn’t shoot him and Si knew he had to go
think its Jaq- the same jacket, the same build and height and the iconic bop. Si is a good shout though but he doesnt match the build of the killer
Even prob being the most hated. Sully was the best character by far
Agreed. Kano absolutely killed this role, the level of acting was incredible
If Kano doesn’t get an Emmy I swear..
@manteiv - you do realise saying “I Swear” isn’t always an indication of someone’s gonna do something?
And guys, Im sorry but i didnt see the first two seasons. But in the begging of the third he had this carisma and was My fav
Always preferred sully to dushane although they both will kill anyone who gets in thier way friend or not sully seemed to have the more compassion about it like when he killed dris but he did kill jamie which I think is what made him hated as much as Jamie was a lot of people's favourite character and the easiest guy to root for
There's nothing to debate. He crossed too many people for there to be any one clear shooter. It was just a matter of WHEN, not WHO
And he knew this and he was ready
I think so too. And even tho I dont know who shot him, I dont think its Jac like so many people here are saying. Apart from if the person was wearing a wig or not, 'he' was obviously a male.
@@Ustaleone they very likely used a stand in (just a random person) to film the final scean thy wya there would be no way for us to just pause the video and pick up on the small details like the hight and body shape or even the way they walk doing this keeps the mystery alive and makes it impossible for us to actually say who did it as there are so many possibilities yet we have nothing to actually link any one to the crime leaving it up to the viwer to create their own ideas of who did it and why
So yeah the fact that the person looks more masculine, the clothes they had on, the way they walk /the movement and speed are all irrelevant as it was very likely just a random stand in not the actual actor who played the character that did it I bet even if someone was to get hold of the scripts for that episode it wouldn't actually say who did it and have something like "the stand in walks past and shoots" simply because no one not even the actors are ever actually meant to know who it actually was
Sally told Jacq that he was going to kill her yet Jacq said that there was nothing to worry about , she knew what she was going to do
the most true comment ever
Yuuuuupppppppppppppp
The iron gate seen was incredible, so close yet so far away.
It wasn’t Jaq, that’s way too easy. Think the point is, that’s how it works in real life. There’s that many enemies sully made with how he lived, he was bound to go out like that and it could have been anyone. The ending was perfect. It was REAL.
Yea they did the Sopranos ending
Totally agree
@@willbongz1065 omg yes thank god someone else can see this
Yeah, I too think this was the perfect ending. Loved the whole season. And at the end I just thought like does it even matter who killed him? Just another hooded figure, it's just so fitting.
It was the IRISH they had every reason to kill him
I hold the belief that Jaq did it. Even though she lost loved ones by the hands of Sully like many others, she’s the only one who had a target on their back and so it makes sense she having more of a motive to kill him then anyone else, as well as the calm demeanour she had in her last scene with everything that happened prior.
Si did it
@@Mrsurvivor7777
Bro SI was shook as fuck crying when sully had him gunpoint, even Stef said Si wasn’t on same smoke as Sully
@@Mrsurvivor7777you'd like that wouldn't you
@@harrylad2570fr that man si got a 9-5 after that and left the roads for good lmao he knew he wasn’t built for it
exactly what i think defo Jaq plus if u look at the how the person who shot Sully walks away then look at how jaq walks around summerhouse clearly the same walk
"Stop begging. Its disgusting." one of my fav quotes .. really enjoyed s3 surely watching it again and again
Showed how cold and ruthless Sully was. No matter what history you had, it didn't matter to him
@@BrainPilot near the ending where stef points the gun at him and asks "how does it feel" he replied that feeling has left him a long time ago
Very good character and a very good ending
I thought the point was made that with Dushane dead, Sully was vulnerable and could be got at. Dushane and Sully needed one another, despite their differences. Their power and near invincibility lay in there being both of them together, and it was why they were feared. Once one was gone, the other had no chance, with so many enemies out there
Ima be honest I wouldn't mind a spin-off show starring Jaq and them confirming she did this. Lowkey best character in the show, she had some deep realizations this season 🔥🔥
Think that's what's going to happen. You can tell by the walk at the end that it's her
but jaq left the life behind no?
Loool are you for real!? Jaq's is a ridiculous character. No one would take that clown serious in the real world.
@@NoName-oh6pcexactly shawdie to flat talking about best character just a crybaby
@@ianardo127The Irish never saw a face nor do they know how to find Sully given the Uncle (Dead) was the one leading all of this
Final season low-key disappointed me icl
Coz ur obsessed with mass shootings every single episode.
Felt very rushed
What people fail to realise is that Top Boy is a somewhat realistic show. In real life, you don’t get long intricate storylines it’s literally chaos and tryna get to the top
Yeah it was really rushed
Bruh , I ain’t even get to see Aron tell Steph he can’t help him 😂
Sully had principle, he valued TRUST, he was calculated for the most part. People kept failing at that factor. Dushane only valued power, was impulsive and messy. That's why Sully ended up "cleaning the mess" for every inconvenience; also why they were a good pair together. Sully was numb to it all, the game took so much from him. He understands the code of conduct, he knew eventually the end was coming. He LOVED his daughter, but he used TRUST to work alongside others. He probs did have love for Dushane that's why he lived longer. Dushane broke his trust.
Dushane was a piece of shit for sure but sully too if he truly loved his daughter he wouldn't have kept on being a psycho
Really pleased this came up in my feed randomly before I’d watched the last episode.
*If they wanted to put a villain in the series* I don’t think they needed the Irish.. I think it would’ve felt more authentic if the villain or “gang” this season were simply just the victims of Sully and Dushane over the 5 seasons.. just the entirety of Summerhouse actively rejecting what they’d done to their community would’ve felt way more earned imho.. 🤷🏾♂️
In real life its the irish that run the upper level drug trade for a lot of Europe as of the last few years. They're the equivalent to the Albanians in the old series.
@thedon_0 - okay? But that doesn’t change the fact they offed them in 2 episodes.. the main “villain” should’ve just been the enemies of Dushane and Sully teaming up to take their operation down.. everyone from Stef to Curtis’s Sister forming a gang like “Los Pepes” in Narcos would’ve been more fitting.
@@firstlast9846 nah, the way they killed off the irish way too early only for them only to come back the very last few seconds to kill sully was not the best way to write good villians They pulled a GoT last season with this imo.
the irish were a good addition imo, felt like it was rushed a long with everything else in the series
@@firstlast9846They offed the Irish too quick, but that idea stinks. Stef and Curtis’s sister linking up in a gang? Nah man
I wish we had 10 episodes in this season. Why not show the killer of sully. Kierons dead body. Dushane should’ve made it out to Turkey, thinking about all the hard times and losses he had to endure to get there. I honestly think they could’ve done better. So I give this season a 6.5
agreed, Dushane doing a runner to Turkey where he can't stick his head out too far unless he wants to end up in prison would be poetic justice. It would be more like Marlo Stanfields fate in The Wire where he's forced out the game
How is retiring in turkey with millions pounds worth of drugs poetic justice 😂 thats a happy ending for him and his best possible outcome. Dying in an alley in summerhouse clutching a bag of drugs far more poetic.
@@marlonz6085isn't poetic justice. Him dying in a random dirty alley in summerhouse is more poetic
@@james505ism he didnt have millions, he lost all of his p's to Lizze and the Turkish man who was smuggling him out wanted 20 out of his 21 keys leaving him with just enough to scrape by on the run
@@huzino7716 its more impactful and cerebral yeah, but him going back to a bottom/lower tier runner in Turkey after losing his empire, his friends and family would be his own personal hell.
Thanks for giving away the ending before i have seen the final season. Have no idea why this has come up on my feed but no point now.
I love that the scene is left unanswered bc the only answer we need is this: Doesn’t matter who done it in the end: Sully met his end the same way he ended so many life’s (with or without reason) The series comes to a full circle with his death bc I was like: „Everybody dies and Sully is the one left to survive? As soon as the scene ended with stef and we saw him in the car: „Yeah he dead 💀.“
I think Jaq dug herself in to a situation she had no business digging herself out from, all of this could've been avoided if she didn’t steal the peas in the first place.....
The stealing the drugs thing came out of left field.. if she had killed Rowmando it would’ve had more of a believable reason as to why Sully and Dushane would be after her.
@@firstlast9846 they wouldnt go after a leader for killing a soldier, theyd probably punish her but they wouldnt kill her
Why Steal The Drugs When You Have No Intention Of Selling Or Destroying Them? They Made Jaq Look Real Stupid And Amateurish This Season.
@vincenzofranchelli2201 - doesn’t matter - it would’ve still been a better replacement for the stupid, stealing the drugs plot line.
Man sad steal the peas 🫛🫛🫛😂😂😂 🤡
My opinion - it should have ended with the police force that had
Dushane as no 1 on there wall capturing him and then a trial with him Dushane in open court. That's what this series needed not just a death squad. Also where was Aaron? Why was Ruabon not in it, why would si and his crew not be the ones to get sully for what he did. His death should have been shown with the killer. It was a good series but I felt like the writers just couldn't be arsed. We didn't need the Irish supplier or Lauren's side story without revenge for Curtis from the sister and other guy which never happened. Where were the two cops featured in summer house for 2 whole seasons that wanted to prosecute dushane. It just lacked on so many levels. Dissipating end to an amazing program. What do we watch now? The wire lol.
Snowfall, black mafia family & all the power series & spin offs
well im gonna be watching narcos last few seasons which I haven't seen yet, might watch the wire after and maybe sopranos at some point or animal kingdom
@doves9204 30 years sentence is only 15 years. He would have been out at about his dad windles age from summerhouse. A sequel wasn't needed anyway it was an ending without such an unnecessary Hollywood bloodbath. Look on the last season when sully got kidnapped by the Peckham crew dushane came straight to his rescue. It makes no sense that sully would shoot him regardless especially not leave him. Was poor story writing for the final series period.
@doves9204 yea but there not gonna bag him for multiple murders, they had no evidence or he'd already be in jail. What they did have at the end of that was the death of the investor . They didn't have anything on him for anything he did in the past. Just new he was the top boy.
30 years is 30 years now no half sentence
By the walk you can tell it was Jaq . She knew Sully wasn't letting that slide . The only way she could get out the game and protect her family would be for him to be dead . He didn't kill her during the riot because he knew Dushane still had to be near by and would've dealt with her after. Sully's main concern at that moment was to get those Kilos back .
It was Jaq. When Sully yokes her up she’s wearing the same big puffy jacket that the shooter who killed silly is wearing… not to mention she had more than enough motive.
Spot on with the suspects. I believe it was jaq even by the way the person walked by. Just small details I observed
That’s fair on the walk! Definitely had that stride
Jaq had everything to gain and everything to lose. Definitely a strong candidate.
Definitely Jaq stride.
Also. This video mentioned the sun hitting the jacket. Hoodie is up. I paused that scene. Its a wool hat, or a touque. Jaq has worn a few last season. You can see her braids under said 'hat'.
It was quick and the person had her hop step so no doubt it was her 😊
Bro everyone walked like that
It was Jaq - the Jacket gives it away look at the puffed zip from the black bomber on the arm
Great analysis BP. This season was solid but i did feel like it was cut short. It was ashame Dushane went out that way, it would have been better to close his chapter with him leaving the island, and being on the run indefinitely, maybe some how being able to catch up with Lizze and Lithe. As for Sully even though he was the villain/good guy, a cat only has so much luck before its lights out. Overall it was a pleasure to watch and see such great talent coming from our shores.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the vid! I agree, I would’ve much preferred it to have had 8-10 episodes. It would have allowed more time for the Irish storyline and probably witness more of Lauren’s demise. But totally agree about the talent. Kano is phenomenal, along with the rest of the cast. They deserve to be in so much more!
After dushane died potential any of sullys ops could have seen that as a weakness and took advantage of the situation knowing no one was left to retaliate
I wish they did more episodes if they didn’t rush it would had been better for the story but my guess was jaq that killed sully at the end
Yeah 8 would have been perfect
it was rafe from summerhouse. rafe and dushane made a deal that rafe wouldnt kill sully but with dushane gone then rafe couldve easily killed him. sully also states that rafe likes to wait until the beef is dead and sneak up.
It’s Si, the thought of it could be another never crossed my mind
It’s sad Jaq….the walk….and she asked sully next time I see you you’re going to kill me & he said yea!
Also, people arent mentioning the whole scene with Stef just before. Sully says he understands that Steff has to do that like he had to kill Jamie. And that is exactly what Jaq had to do. She HAD to kill Sully, when has Sully ever let anything go and he even told her she doesnt get a pass. You think hes talking about Steff, but Steff spares him. But is a forewarning for Jaq. For me the last 3 scenes really make up for the whole season
Is everyone blind, it shows jaq bopping off when she pulls the trigger
It was all of them.
That’s the beauty of it, that figure represented everyone who Sully ever wronged.
There is no one culprit, it is the final season after all.
Such a good ending
Worst take on this I’ve read
Reason why I think it was Jaq is because whoever it was didn’t take the food. If it had been Si, the Irish or anyone else, they wouldn’t have just kept walking like nothing happened. Jaq was the only one that wanted out and didn’t care about the food. Unless Stefan came back because he couldn’t let it slide after letting him go the first time
Cant have been stef because he had different clothes on when he confronted Sully. A lot of comments i see are saying it was stef but miss out that crucial detail. Jaq has the same jacket on throughout the last couple of scenes. So thats what i believe it was her too. Plus she had to get Sully back for killing Kieron. Despite her knowing the consequences of betrayal, his death mattered to her for obvious reasons
It could of been si as the way sully accused Simon of him stealing the food and the way he did it by putting the gun down his mouth could be a big motivation for Simon to kill sully
@@meloccino no facts your right, as soon as I saw it i said jaq- same iconic bomber jacket, same build and same iconic bop
Top Boy did a great job of humanizing Dushane and Sully because these guys were true blue sociopaths in Summer House. Sully kidnapped and almost killed his own cousin for $20K, and Dushane buried folks alive lol. Their deaths in this season were appropriate. Say what you want about the pacing but that dialogue between the 2 in the last episode makes up for everything, that's more than a decade in the making.
The Irish Mafia plot was okay to me. We've seen plugs get turned into mince meat before, plus Tadgh and Barry Keoghan's character were way too brash thinking Dushane and Sully were just some punks in the ghetto and not seasoned street war veterans who would exploit any and all weaknesses they find. And these goofballs exposed that weakness immediately and were paid headshots for their troubles.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
The irish were a good add as in real life, over the last few years they now control majority of the upper level drug trade in most of Europe, their the equivalent to the Albanians in the old series. But the irish were poorly written, built up, and stated that their a big crime family that's works for an even bigger group, then just to be killed off quickly. It would make sense storytelling wise for them to be sullys killer.
So they killed them and the Irish family didn’t take any revenge? Come on bro that’s hideous. Even if they killed the father, and the 2 brothers, the Irish family still had other family members or had ties, so a get back should’ve definitely been shown
@@redlunamod6090 did the Turks get revenge on Jamie? Did Bobby Raises’ people get revenge on Dushane? Hell, Did Sugar’s people get revenge on Dushane? Did Curtis people get revenge on Jaq and Sully? I get your point but it’s moot here because fleshing out the Irish revenge plot is not necessary to move this last season plot forward nor does it create any holes if it’s not explored. Dushane and Sully were always going to be each other’s downfall.
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@tobiabegunde1925 the turks weren't as big.
It was Aaron he come back after he finished his exams
hahahahaha
Unfortunately I feel as though the season had been rushed and should have had more episodes. I definitely think it was Jaq because Sully said she wasn't having a pass just like keiran didn't. She had to kill Sully, not just for revenge for kieran but also because she'd probably be next but had Lauren's baby to bring up. It absolutely looked like her, same bouncy walk and we've seen her in a bomber jacket before.
She ain’t white/light skinned has to be si
She was definitely next and her Girl didn’t want to be on the Run
You also forgot another prime suspect Sully's cousin who he kidnapped and tortured in season 1 played by Bashy. He even tried to get revenge again during the funeral scene in an earlier season.
💯 Jaq! When you look at the slow motion of who killed sully they exactly walk like Jaq and on top of that she would have the most motivation to do it at that time
Best season of the relaunch and a perfect ending. We domt need know who did it, the ending gets people to think about how many enemies you make on your way to the top. Could have been Jaq, stef, si, the irish, rafe, someone who was linked with kadeem n Cyprus, anyone from fields.. literally could have been anyone, which this ending displays perfectly. Irish storyline was kinda whack tho, no buildup just to kill them off 2 episodes in.
Worst season
Writer just wanted to end it fast
Deff not the best season but i still liked it
Rushed and forced. Either budget or difficulty meeting the artists demands for being recasted possibly. There were so many more things that could’ve been done to make this the impactful finale we all expected it to b. The word lackluster comes to mind for me. I’d say 6.5/10 at best.
@@HMZZZ7i agree it is the worst season, but that's because all of the other seasons set the bar so high rather than this one being bad
It’s jaq, look at the bomber jacket as the person is walking away, she wore it in the same episode, has the same bop walk as her as well
i think it was keiron's mum dianna, she had just found out that keiron had been done and look at the headwear she wears
The ending was not surprising at all! Dushane was either going to ride off into the sunset, get locked up or be murdered by Sully. Sully had to die at the hands of a random, faceless assailant as he had committed numerous atrocities over the years and amassed a vast catalogue of vengeful people that would want him dead.
dushane was never gonna ride into the sunset😂
It was Jaq. Can tell by the manner of the walk.
Just because of how the person walked off, i assumed it was Jaq. Walking like they got springs 💀 😂
Jaq. She knew she had Sully looking over her and would be a danger to her living her life with her nephew and gf. She knows Sully is cold and temperamental. Jaq was the one person who showed signs of reform throughout the season and most likely to walk away from the drug scene. Her bop bouncy walk was really focused on throughout the series and in the end the walk is very similar. It was Jaq 💯 it is ironic the show is called "top boy" and in the end, in some ways, she became the "top boy". Not because she became the head of the streets and drug scene but because she took out the remaining top boy and went on to live a legitimate lifestyle (her tomboy nature also contributes to this impression that she became "top boy". She had to get revenge for her friend dying. She started hating drugs because of her sister dying and knew that the remaining person that was around her supplying drugs was Sully - kill him and she could finally move on and make a clean start.
facts
Yes. It was jac 💯
The story only really followed 4 branches this season; Sully, Dushane, Jaq, and Stef. It has to be Jaq. She's the only one who knew the two titans would clash. Only one can come out alive in a fight like that. All she has to do is hit the other when the dust clears. She really meant it when she tells her girl everything is gonna be ok. With the two titans dead, and Stef bowing out voluntarily, that leaves Jaq as top boy.
I think it depends on the sound of the hand gun. Because Si specifically mentioned to Stefan the type of hand gun he gave him. So we have to go back and look at what type of gun each person carried and match that with the sound and damage to the Sully’s head. Noticed that the bullet never went straight through. So we have to analyze the ballistics of this case.
Si "wasn't on the same smoke as Sully" as per Stefan".
It's hard to tell if Jaq got home in the night or morning. Perhaps that scene was after Sully's demise. Which would validate why she was so certain there was nothing to worry about.
Your missing the whole point. It’s not a question of who killed Sully. I doubt that the writers even decided who it was. The point is that sooner or later someone was going to kill Sully. He knew this himself and had accepted it a long time ago. The point is that someone living the life that Sully lived is sooner later going to end up getting killed. It could have been anyone that he had crossed from season’s 1-5. Or someone we never even met in te show. We’re not supposed to know who did it just that it’s an inevitable consequence for living the way that Sully did. He wasn’t even in the game to make money, he lived the game because that was all that he knew and couldn’t be anything else. He was 100% in it and knew the consequences and how he would end up one day. It’s almost a mercy that it was quick and he knew nothing about it.
They actually did film an ending that shows who it was.
Jaqs And Laurens Story Should Of Been Focused On Them Dealing With Vee Since It Was Being Hyped As No Loose Ends.
What a masterpiece of ending- did it short and frantic
Irish storyline could have lasted a little longer but they ended in style and on a high 🎉
We need a feature length top boy movie. Dushane could survive being shot, wake up in the prison hospital, and form a new crew to take back summerhouse from the gang that killed sully
How could they make Jaq rob off Sully
WHO SHOT SULLY
Why did they make stef such a ‘badman’
Aaron really left for leeds and left his little brother in a home after they just lost Jamie?
Soo many things annoying about the last season 😣
aaron is a wasteman
Yh Aaron leaving Stef didn't make sense to me. That's fucked up
I hoped Aaron would have been around to really guide and ground Stef. For true Aaron is a waste man. He should of all married Abby and be that family for Stef and TiA. With Mandy and his gf. Could have built up these relationships more.
It could be Kieran’s mom, look at the build of her body and the head scarf she has and the person who kills Sully. She wasn’t told directly by Jax, but judging by Jax’s reaction and the fact that she (Kieran’s mom,) knew he left to meet up with Sully after not returning, she probably put 2 and 2 together. I’m also positive that Kieran more than likely left the strap at the crib cause he wasn’t thinking that Sully was aware of the full situation or would think he’d do him like that. Kieran’s mom also has cancer which I took it as terminal so she has the most to gain from offing him cause she more than likely won’t live long enough to see the repercussions of her actions. Also peep how cautious Sully was throughout the end of the season, he was never caught lacking, even with Stefan cause at the end, you see that he was strapped the whole time when he gets in his car (could have been that he was allowing only Stefan to kill him because he had to witness his brother’s murder as mentioned when he said “I had to what needed to be done like what you need to do”). So what I’m trying to say is he got caught lacking by someone that’s not affiliated with that life. To Sully, everyone around him looked ,and was civilian.
100000%
Agreed she Def knew from Jax reaction when his mum said " I thought he was with you" and jaxs face changed when she realised and just said "nah" his mum knew at that moment Keiran was gone and let's face it she's got cancer too so once her boy is gone there's nothing to live for and nothing holding her back from revenge I am 💯 convinced it's her
First off, I wanna say I wish there were a few more episodes to tie up everything, such a great show, very unique show that won’t ever be recreated in any way.. I can’t see there being another UK gang show like this one. Absolutely loved it. Now I think it was Jaq who done Sully, she was the only one who got out of the riots safe.. kieran got nabbed by Sully and Jermaine, sully admits he didn’t get a pass. Jermaine gets popped, Dushane gets popped, but Jaq gets out, and when she returns to her GF she assures her everything is fine, she seemed calm. Jaq had the motive, she went to kierans house and saw he wasn’t home, and that his mom was in a panic, Sully told her he didn’t get a pass, sully also said she wasn’t getting a pass, and did not guarantee the safety of her GF and Nephew. The shooter fits the physical description of Jaq, has Jaqs unique bouncey walk, and is also wearing the exact same black jacket she has worn throughout different episodes of the show. Plus, the car wasn’t ransacked for the bags so it was obviously someone who didn’t care about a half million UK pounds of gear.
If it was Si I think he would’ve taken the bags, Stef didn’t match the clothing description, the Irish were already clipped, and I don’t think tadgh told anyone above himself about Sully so who knew it was him? The most reasonable answer has to be Jaq doing it to guarantee the security for her, her nephew and girlfriend.
This was an absolutely great show, I will definitely miss it for its unique topics and setting, As a Canadian thank you to drake (one good thing he’s done apart from charity) for bringing this show back to life. Im happy with the ending that nobody survives, although I would like closure on who the shooter is.. also, Dris can rot for killing the mandems dog. Ill never be over that
Jaq makes the most sense, she had the most to gain by Sully being gone. What an outstanding series, very bummed its over!
It was 100% Si. The motive was obviously there, and notice how the gun sounded. It was the same type of gun he gave Stef, and we know Stef ain't do it. Also, Jaq didn't have a gun like that if you noticed through the episodes and in my opinion she's the clear second suspect.
Dumbest take 😅 si was scared of sully and to say jaq didnt have a gun is crazy 😅
kieron got killed as an apology for the bando scene
@@Straight-Outta-Nottingham I never said that I said jaq didn’t have that specific gun. I don’t think it’s a bad take if you know the difference between guns
Si would steal the drugs tho. He had a crew and could sell it. Business rivals would have also stole the drugs they always do that in the show. This makes Jaq the primary suspect
Definitely jaq you could see the sun shining on her durag and see a few dreads poking out the bottom. Also look at the way the killer walks with jaqs strut .
I just finished the show and yeah I think I'm also leaning with Jaq on this, because yes Si would have been hurt by Sully's humiliating gun in the mouth incident, but it still wouldn't have been as incentivising for him to do it than it would be for Jaq who like you said Sully didn't forgive. On top of that Lauryn's death and the drugs Sully & Dushane put her up to sell, she would have wanted to shift the blame over to those who got her into drug dealing in the first place. Not to mention both her and her family was in danger so she had every right to get rid of the last bit of threat to secure the future for herself and her family along with avenging Kieran.
The killer did look a bit tall making it look like Si, but nah I think Jaq would feel way more motivated. It's Jaq.
Biggest twist would be if Erin did it for Dris and for Stefan 😮
It's crazy I know, but I'm just saying the twist would be perfect
It was jaqs..the clothing, the motive and for me the shooter walked away with her swag after....
100% mandy
@@MrSadisticCodmnah Erin 😂
I strongly believe it was Dushane! They never showed him completely dead!😂
That's just silly mate
A man with heart problems bleeding out in an alley way, passed out whilst all the emergency services were preoccupied? Dushane definitely died mate
Amazing season. I watched every episode as soon as I got home. Now I will sleep.
I thought it was Si. Given Stef knew Sully's whereabouts, it is likely his crew did as well. The entire crew was probably monitoring Sully's movements. I imagine Stef returns, Si asks "is it done?" "Nah, fam." Then Si or another Fields goon catches up quickly to finish the job himself.
Bro , overall the season was alright not the best but alright. The problem I have is 2 things. Sully killing dushane I think that's the worse scenario. They messed it all up cuz regardless of anything they were good friends to each other the whole show. If they wanted to kill off dushane that's fine but have someone else do it. And not showing who killed sully was just stupid. They really messed up the legacy of the show
Nah everyone was becoming for themselves. Friendship went out the door when their backs are against the wall.
I think they way the show has been since topboy season 1 or summerhouse as the renamed it the show was always gonna end with both dead one killing the other I think leaving it open to who killed sully is decent shows how many enemies he made and how it was always gonna lead to someone killing him with the amount of people sully has murdered and gotten away with his luck was gonna run out eventually but I feel like they didn't flesh out the story's enough such as Dushane and sullys beef escalating to the point where they were ready to kill each other and stefans hatred for sully and his conflict of whether he wants to kill him or not maybe I don't remember because I watched it all in 1 go but there never seemed to be any one who told stefan not to kill sully maybe they should of kept kit around have kit wanting to kill sully and si telling him not to and maybe if the same seen with si and sully happened it messes with stefan head and make him conflict med and what to do
Dushane robbing the food and running round summerhouse despite his “heart problems” was pure Hollywood shite, when you look at how well made season 1 and 2 were compared to this it’s embarrassingly poor
@@TC8787-yq7og dushane saved his life 3 times, from reif, from raikes, and from Cyprus
@@TC8787-yq7ogyeah 100% agree! It felt so rushed and they really should’ve ended this amazing show on a better note aye
I think it was Stefan. He either couldn’t look sully in the eye or wanted to give him a false sense of security.
It would mean he changed clothes in seconds. From an attention to detail perspective he was wearing all black, the shooter was not
@@___Saint I think the shooter was wearing all black. As pointed out, the sunlight was just shining off of the jacket making it look a different shade. Even so though, I personally don't think it was Stefan.
Stef never shot even once in his life. Let alone he couldn't even handle a gun😂😂
Impossible different hoodies 😂
Stef never shoot anything before , this clearly was done by someone who is clearly know how to shoot , so I don’t believe it was him.
Kieron's mother. She wears the SAME headdress shown previously when Jaq goes looking for Kieron at his mother's home.
In the description it says that a ghost from sullys past meets him so the person who killed him probably had beef eith him in the earlier seasons but wasn't in the final season
In my opinion, this season was better than last season. Very dark with a lot of the deaths and lots of suspension. This for me is the perfect ending. People might disagree, but the ending is realistic than some hollywood dramatic ending. It doesn't matter if you are a demon like sully, it doesn't matter who the "Top Boy" is, because there will always be someone in the shadows to take you out and it can all be over in a split second.
It could of been curtis sister from Liverpool back to get revenge
That’s a shout
Vee is a tall chick. This person is average height. No taller than 5'6
@@JimmiDimiwould’ve just paid someone to do it same as the Irish
It believe it was Jaq too. Sully wasn't killed by an amateur and the killer didn't even look to see whether Sully was really dead.
I loved seeing Dushane’s fall from grace. His last words were more or less bickering with sully about money almost like it was any other time between the two.
Incredible, isn't it!
it’s jaq no question !!!!
You can see the person who did it was white.
@@firstlast9846no you can't even see them there Is a reason why they weren't shown is because that shows you shouldn't try and make enemies or the streets get u
@@ZenoEditsXthey show jaqs stages of grief for a reason. Sully pushed her to that point.
@@desiarnes4731who said I was talking about grief
@Solariumedits - yea I know it’s to show he made so many enemies that it didn’t matter in the end.. I don’t think it was anyone in particular
It was clearly Jaq, show was getting woke from season 2, the show couldn't even let Stef get revenge or dushane from the girls that stole his money and left..
It’s literally her walk when you slow it down slim with baggy clothing
Stef is not about that life and it makes sense
It's Jaq. You can tell by the coat's left arm pocket. It what she wore the entire episode, same left arm pocket.
When he was in the car I look away for one second and I thought he shoot himself but I replayed it and saw that figure, I was so shocked but I knew it was going to happen to him eventually it was just so quick!
Jaq has the most compelling motive to target Sully. She's in a dire "kill or be killed" scenario, with a baby, partner, and life at stake. Knowing Sully's relentless nature, Jaq faced three choices: wait to be victimized, flee, or take preemptive action. Given her skills and circumstances, Jaq taking the initiative just seems logical. While this is my perspective, the reasoning seems clear.
It was the Irish, it has to be soon as Jaq sat down that was her out of it. that was her entire character development.
If sully was going to kill her he would have killed her during the riot. he understood the pain she was going through. he literally said this too her and she never lied about stealing it at any point. He was going to let her go. Theres no chance the Irish would let him get away with that, the woman in the nursing home looked so guilty that it would have took 1 visit from the irish to realise sully did it.
Also the irish clearly knew where sully would park when visiting his daughter as it was highlighted they knew sullys daughter by name.
also the irish being only in 3 episodes evidences it more. we were all waiting for the retaliation of the Irish but it never came. Untill the end where they literally execute him. Gangsters like that, literally kill people in that way
Jaq is my main suspect, she saw what was happening to the community and knew it had to stop, she probably knew Dushane was out and because sully never gave his word that she’s safe she had to take her and her family’s safety first and take out the one that could end her just as quick as she was bought into the show
Disagree with the jaqs point. Sully at this point was completely devoid of emotion for anyone. The game is the game and he valued the streets code over any relationship. If he lived he definitely would’ve finished of jaqs
@@deejaydj6013FACTS, i’d even argue that that’s exactly what he was on his way to do which is why they specifically show him put a gun in his bag
A cliffhanger that you’ll never find out is taking it too far man.
Jaq seems most logical, that set a hit on him. When her girlfriend asks is she safe? she replies, yes we are. At the time I thought she was comforting her, and didn't want to alarm her, but she genuinely felt at ease, and she had so many motives behind killing him, from killing Keiron, and threatening her life, along with the life of her family
its definitly Jaq 10000 % look at her bombers jacket with the pocker on the left arm watch the scene with her girlfriend when she just come back ( at 44 min 09 second ) and close the door look closely to her left arm jacket and look a the left arm of the jacket's killer its the same jacket look at 55 min 04 when sully get killed you can see the same big pocket on her left arm in both scene
it was definitely Jaq. she knew she was done when sully killed kerian and wanted revenge for him so badly
You can clearly see that it was Si. The killer was a light skinned male. Remember. Stefan told him that Sully killed Jamie.
How did you come to the conclusion they was a light skinned male? 😅 we saw the back of them and no skin was shown 😅😅
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