The Walking Dead - The Tragic Origin Story of BETA - Not told in the Show!
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- The Walking Dead - The Tragic Origin Story of BETA - Not told in the Show!
Check out what Ryan Hurst had to say about Beta's origin story he helped develop for the show.
#TheWalkingDead #TWD #RyanHurst 
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Lucille wore a half moon t-shirt in the one of her scenes which is why when Beta dies, Negan knows who Beta is and is shocked by it OMG!!!
Negan: omg do you know who that guy was
Darryl: yeah nobody
I did not pick up on that !!!! That is a pointer, the " do you know who that was " makes sense now thanks 👌🏼
Also when one of the whispers says hey your....
Before he finishes beta kills him
Where do you see it, in the here's negan episode?
@@Cobalt_Colonel It was in scene where Lucille was in bed and she and Negan were talking about going out and getting medical supplies. I think she had an over shirt on covering the t-shirt underneath so only if you were eagle eyed you would see it.
I like how he used his music to draw his new horde.
Took so much courage of all those records to play his own..love how the camera pans back as he remembers...
Shit is poetic, it leaves something in your chest, they did something with this death... it was bitter for most fans
Damn that’s deep
@@ericwashingtonjr4440 chu papi
I love how adding Alpha’s face to his mask makes it look like a half moon too.
Damn, good catch.
Damn good call I never saw it that way. 👍🏻
I just noticed that when I saw it,before reading these
"Beta will be around for a while" gets stabbed in eyes
I didn't SEE that coming
@@icecoldwolfz lol and then he was eaten by walkers.
Came to make sure someone ruined it for them 😂
The REAL origin of BETA: He was part of A motercycle club called SAMCRO and his best friend was called Jax Teller.
Ewwwwwww jk
That's not true
I get that reference
i wouldn't mind seeing a jax teller zombie wearing the sons cut walk by and beta just stare at him as he goes by, like he recognizes him...lmao
#RIPOpieWinston
anybody notice how he never took off his friends shirt
Yes! Of course!
Uh....I’m 6 5” .... the shittiest fucking thing being tall, is u can’t find clothes that fit! XXL Tall. Try and find anything NOT online in that size. So Halfmoon didn’t want to wear a size large around for years n years.
Also...I did some time in jail, n their shirts r crap already , and they didn’t fit me at all...wearing them for 10 months was hell!
@@necron99.aka-sammyboy92 You're just fat.
Necron99. AKA- Sammy boy sure, and everybody clapped
@@necron99.aka-sammyboy92 You should of looked a lil harder for the perfect bragging opportunity to appear more humble. You'll know next time.
Ryan Hurst is a good pick to be Beta,
Beta scares the hell out of me, he's a twisted mess
Yes, great pick for the actor. Thanks Jocelyn, stay safe!
@@TWDExplained He's perfect, he's scary, tough, knows how to fight, and is a whopping 6'4.
Jocelyn Stuff if u see the flashback scene of how beta met alpha he don’t look too scary but with the mask he looks sketchy af it’s the mask
Beta scares the living shit out of anyone. But Ryan is just a big teddy bear irl.
@@isaiahmatedne7966 Agreed, Ryan is awesome. In the comics Beta was around 7ft, so really towering over everyone. He was a basketball player and celebrity before the apocalypse.
I like how Negan finally recognized him after Daryl killed him and his mask was ripped off.. Negan was like "Wait, dont we know that guy? Who is he?" Daryl was like "a nobody"
Daryl knew too!
Daryl knew the fame before the outbreak wasn’t going to help him
Wait but who was he !?!!!! I don’t get it
@@kariAnn58a country singer.
He's going full on crazy mode in episode 15.
The episodes on RUclips already, we'll have to wait until the season finale for everything to play out...but since "production stopped", it may be a while until we see what happens
I want to know how he's not getting eaten. Bull crap he can just talk directly to them and they just growl.
True whisperer
@@kristingallo2158 he wasnt talking directly to him, and if you noticed the walkers were talking to him as well meaning it was all in his head
This explains the whisperer he killed that noticed beta by his voice, surprised you ain’t touch on that
I did in another video
@@TWDExplained wouldve thought he was a serial killer
@@billyscott2216 ......why don't he like breakfast cereal ?
We need a small mini series like the Red Machete where it shows how Beta ended up where he meet Alpha and how his best friend died and a little bit of his early life with the pre whisperers
They did didn't they?
Or even a Here's Negan or Rise of the Governor miniseries
@@clinteastwood8230 yup,
Lol ppl who still watch this show are losers
@@rj6288 people like you who look up TWD content to comment like this are the real losers gtfo no one wants your opinion
He was like the Johnny Cash of that world. But damn, he was freakin SCARY in his last episode. A man truly at home walking amongst the dead
He looks like Michael Myers from Rob Zombie's Halloween 2!
I think I read something about him being inspired by Michael Myers
Very cool backstory, I like his motivations for the mask. The show is fleshing out Beta better than the comics without losing the mystery.
True statement
I love Beta, he's the most evil villain we've had he's more ruthless than the Governor, and Negan. I hope he's not killed, that maybe he just retreats and disappears after the Whisperer war.
James Steevens nah negan should go old school on his ass with lucuile
James Steevens true, the governor and negan still had a bit of humanity in them but beta is a true animal
I agree :D
I’d be happy for him to leave after loosing the battle and maybe we get a few episodes with him on a journey to find himself again and he’ll remove his mask and turn up at ocean side as half moon
I think they should capture him,leave him in a cell until he sees the error of his ways
Well..if he was a famous singer, he'd be used to all the fans huddled around just like the zombies
ken hood good point.
yess it's very symbolic, even after the apocalypse he's still controlling crowds
What I love so much about The Walking Dead is the fact that they never really left it's southern-ish setting.
It was also said that he sewed the to skins together with guitar strings.
interesting
Kurt Cobain dude....you’re alive! Man, I love your music. Srly tho ...I went to hs with Chad Cobain
@Kurt Cobain wonderwall
He doesn’t want to be Alpha. He got really upset when the one whisperer said “ follow the alpha”
They're going to catch and imprison Beta in a jail cell, then they'll begin a redemption arc with him helping little kids do their math homework.
Amaranthine hanging out with Negan
Carol will free him on the condition that he bring back her back the head of that CRM lady we always see on the previews for the new show.
Beta gets killed
@@cgraciano214 I was being facetious, however WHEN do you think he gets killed?
@@amaranthine4476 forgot but I'll let u know
Betas death was so anticlimactic. I thought it was gonna be a huge fight that they barely win. But nope, Daryl finds him in the herd and just stabs him. Very ho-hum.
Despite their twisted ways and resentful actions I can't help but feel tremendous sympathy for both Alpha and Beta. They seemed like they were misfits that were damaged goods way before and the end of the world sent them completely over the edge. They've seen themselves in each other, despite reciting doctrine that the whisperers don't have any emotions, they feel deep affection for each other.
Beta yes I can understand a bit, but I feel Alpha has sort of almost brain washed Beta and almost radicalises him. I feel Beta hasnt been evil but just slowly became evil bc of Alphas manipulation and brain washing. you can see glimpses of concern over Alphas evil ideas. I feel like Alpha is pretty much evil and slightly psychotic. where as Beta still retains some morality even if he doesnt show it he hides his feelings away bc hes becoming too distant to what he once was and his humanity has become twisted.
Alpha was literally an abuser tho and possibly a psychopath, she talks with joy about how she watched lydia choke as a child on a plastic bag
Alpha let the others r@pe her kid cuz she was 'weak' in the comics ... She is horrific
Thanks for your videos! All of my friends quit watching years ago and your videos make me feel like I can actually have a conversation with someone about the show. Shows me things I missed when I watched. Keep it up and stay safe!
Thank you Nick - the very reason I started the channel - to talk with fans because my friends stopped watching. You stay safe as well!
Here in Metro Atlanta things are as to be expected. Just keep on keeping on. Thanks for a great video!
Thanks Rhonda!
Him: maybe beta will grow more as a character
Everyone who saw beta die super quickly within the episode
I don’t know why, but beta reminds me of Rob Zombie, I guess because of the long beard and hair and the album cover with him in a cowboy hat
It's the skin wearing, the image rob zombie emulates a lot in his films being a masculine bearded killer
Really powerful that even a guy like that can be changed so radically by trauma. My favorite part of the show is the way the setting changes the characters.
Not gonna lie when Daryl said “a nobody” it reminded me of The Postman and that whole Tom Petty thing.
Ahhh - The Postman!
It seems that singers and guitar players would come into high fashion when TV and cell phones go away. But in the case of the ZA I guess late night jams could attract Walkers.
Ryan Hurst was the perfect choice to play beta he played beta really well
yeah he did the part great
@@TWDExplained he's definitely one of my favorite actors for sure,
And the fact he's gonna be playing as Thor in God of war Ragnarok is amazing 👏
And that s why he whisperet from the begining on. That no one regocnize his voice
Yep
I kinda want to see a Beta backstory in the show , where you can see and learn a lot about him , and i loved that scene with him at the house with Alpha her head 😂😂
galaxygamer1515 potential origin spin off mini series? AMC might bite at that for some extra cash
I’m happy it didn’t show that much because it’ll make me more sad that he turned like this
Maybe we’ll get that on Tales of the Walking Dead. They did one about Alpha already.
@@thirsty4dirt726 maybe
James, thankyou for the kind words. Im up in the Northeast pretty close to the NH line, and we are just trying to play it smart. We will persevere! As for yourself, stay smart, stay safe, and I look forward to some more cool vids. God Bless you Brother!
Thank you! Playing it smart is the best thing we can do - and really virus or no virus! But especially now!
That note sounds like it could have been a country music lyric
Thanks for king up with these. Hope you are well. 💐🤗🇦🇺
Thank you michelle! I am well, thanks! You stay safe as well!
The part that doesn't make sense though about the backstory of him losing his mind when he killed somebody who had his band t-shirt on who broke into his house. The problem is that he was in mental hospital and just holed up in there until Alpha game and took him with him, he was just there chilling with his zombified councellor.
This back story is so much better on the show.
Yeah, Ryan did ok helping out with it. I like it.
I think him being a professional basket ball player explains his extreme strength and height more logically
Comic book Beta was a professional basketball player
Hey, James, thx for the great video and filling in the blanks. I’m from SW Missouri and our governor issued stay indoors till April 24 or 26. But they’ll extend it I’m sure.
Interesting idea Hurst had about Beta's reason for always wearing the mask, but I would have been equally fine with it never having an "explanation." Until the 'reveal' I simply thought it was an example of a character for whom their Walker mask became almost literally a part of them.
I really appreciate your videos I wish you a safe journey through this quarantine
Thank you Garrett - and the same to you and yours!
FRom up north Michigan way. great lay out! first time listener to your program- really enjoyed it! Stay safe my friend! Thank you great presentation!
Thanks for listening Blackwater Na! Stay safe as well!
Damn, didn't expect his story to be that tragic. At the begining of the video I didn't expect too much but now...
Nice video anyhow.
Yeah, me neither
Great video as always. Nice message at the end too, people really need to begin listening!
Thank you Oliver! Who would have thought of a Global Lockdown?? Wow.
I can’t wait for everything ahead
"These two eyes..." etc. WAS it a suicide note? He was a famous singer/songwriter, and this is how songs are written-little scraps of lyrics, here and there. Maybe it's a scrap of a song lyric. He wasn't much for talking, songs were probably his one means of deep communication. Also, I was under the impression that the building where Alpha and "Half Moon" met was a rehab clinic. It would have made sense he might have been in rehab during "The Fall", which explains why he was so dark and eccentric in the first place!
Hey James, we've just had our third week of lockdown here in the Czech Republic. You can go out to the supermarket or pharmacy or for exercise but you must be alone, wear a mask, and wear gloves. It's too early to say if it's working but people are sticking to the rules. Everything else is closed and it's likely to stay that way for a few more weeks.
Some people complained about this episode but I really liked it and I really hope they do more with Beta as he's one of the most interesting villains on the show (I haven't read the comics). Making a new mask, half of Alpha's head and the original half from his friend was BAD ASS and the Half Moon album title was so fitting for this.
Thanks for keeping the videos coming and keep safe. This is definitely not just "the flu".
Øxygэи stay safe. sounds freaky
@@98kid123 Thanks :)
Hey - thank you for the update! What you describe is the ONLY way we can get around this Pandemic.....if we can get through it - here in US the "checks" the Gov wants to send out will be very late getting to the people....I fear for things like looting, theft, etc around here. Stay safe my friend...I want to be able to be here talking TWD AFTER this crisis passes with ALL OF YOU! Stay safe!
@@TWDExplained I really hope that this does not happen. This is a new time where people must not be selfish. Trying to buy everything in the supermarket is not fair - really people should ONLY buy products that will last and only what they NEED.
Social distancing is so important and I think that has really worked here. We know that we must do this and we do it. It's very hard psychologically but if this is the only way then we must do it.
It's sad to hear about the looting. I know that this is happening in some countries for different reasons and the lack of appreciation for essential workers makes me sad.
The medical workers, the people delivering food, the volunteers, the people who are cleaning and disinfecting the streets - all of these people deserve so much RESPECT!
Keep safe and healthy my friend.
Correct THESATURNSSC1 - the looting has not started yet, and will probably be more like straight up theft from peoples homes
Beta is such an interesting scary character i think it would be cool to see him just surviving on his own and how he interacts to random survivors and there reaction to him
Beta will brain people,he's cold as ice
Loved your video man that really made my day im in Southern California and every one is wearing masks and bandanas when they go out I'm just getting worried we need to catch a break soon!!!
Thanks David! And yes, we need a break - hope this Stay Home effort pays off soon!
All he needs is a hockey mask and we got ourselves a new Jason vorhees
We need a whisperer spin off on how it all started
i think there is tales of the walking dead does just that i’m pretty sure
Over the years, I think Beta concluded that the world before the apocalypse was dead. I believe that he still keeps the mask on to forsake his former life as a world famous country singer. He doesn't want to be reminded of it. I remember the comic book Beta's death and wonder if it will be similar to Beta from the show where he'd rather be known as nothing or nobody than as the inspirational country singer. The moment when Beta is playing his song to gather the horde of walkers, he couldn't help remembering his former life. You don't hear the walkers in scenes of only him on that balcony looking at the walkers. That moment was the only time when he missed his old life.
I think that he'll most likely be killed off in the season finale, unless the Walking Dead crew needed Beta to remain for a longer duration. Danai Gurira (Michonne) is no longer on the show, but Lauren Cohan will be back as Maggie. They are coming to the Commonwealth storyline that will bring in more antagonists. May be the season finale was meant to be longer than an hour (I don't know), but I'd see Beta sticking around only if he was given a redemption arc. May be also if a character who is an antagonist in Commonwealth is not on the show.
gotta give it to angela kang for drawing out beta in the show much better than in the comics. him being a famous singer is super symbolic because of the way he controlled crowds before and after the end of the world
One thing about the Walking Dead... There are no pop culture references concerning the pre apocalypse world. No mention of politicians, celebrities, popular music, landmarks, etc... Kinda wierd.
Snowing here in NE Indiana. Love the content you provide and so glad to see your safe. I kinda giggle everytime I hear Halfmoon because Beta isn't half anything lol. Maybe half beast half man.
Thanks and thanks for watching!
Beta is one of the most interesting characters in the whole show for me. I wish we could've seen a bit more of him before he got killed off. I wouldn't have been opposed to see a whole Beta backstory episode like how Negan got!
We’re on a state stay at home in FL but I’m an essential worker so I still go to work, though I’m on vacation right now.
Great video! Thx for the back story!
You bet! Thank you for watching!
Okay but that storyline for beta is smart bc if I was in a zombie apocalypse first thing ima do is go to Beyoncé house then kms
I kinda wish they had stuck with the professional athlete backstory, but a professional wrestler or an nfl linebacker instead. It would have explained why he was such a great fighter and why his reflexes and pain tolerance was through the roof. I can just imagine someone like Triple H or Kevin Nash becoming someone like Beta if the apocalypse happened.
The new part of beta mask looks like a half moon it seems that could giv his identity away
Ta
“Beta will be around for awhile” dies literally the next episode
😂
I'm in Arkansas ✌️ the body count is rising. I'm hoping we'll hit the peak of the curve soon and start going down 📉
Stay safe HC!! Thanks for check in!
I just watched episode 15 on amc premiere. It was awesome! Just like this video 😎 keep up the good work, man!
Thank you!
Did Daryl die
Kaydan Beard uhm, no.
Think it's time I rewatch all the sessions leading up to the finale 😬
I usually start binge watching all the seasons of TWD around July up until till Oct that usually leads up to the current season premiere..
@@Vanessa-sp8ri I can't wait that long! mans held up in quarantine right now we mite not make it to July ☠
The one Eye sees who he was and what hes done. the other sees who he had to become and what he has to do. Survival is the truth.
that's deep - and true
Favorite part of my day when I see an upload from TWDE!
Thanks Carr!
I love what they've done with Beta on the show. So much better than his comic counterpart. If he does stay on longer, I hope they kill him off in a big epic climax compared to the comic.
agree
Yeah...but sometimes a cheap death is so unexpected, it’s just as good as crazy over the top death too.
Judith shooting the big ugly fuck throwing him against the wall, was awesome! Most realized he wasn’t dead , but still was fun n we didn’t for sure either...until 12 Seconds later
I think there are still Whisperers out there. Other tribes, other camps. I hope there are. Season 11 Trailer has a couple scenes involving a Whisperer mask or a couple of em. Could just be leftover Whisperers-turned-Walkers or just a lone mask or 2. Or just from a Whisperer corpse that was shot or stabbed in the head, and never turned because of the head injury.
He started out as a Jazz sensation who called himself "Duke Silver"
I though the mask was from his son
Ryan Hurst said on Talking Dead that it was his best friend.
Nahhhg amigo
killerbeargaming son would’ve had a big ass head then
People really need to listen and stay home before they do martial law on us
People.....as fans of TWD we know people are a big part of the problem. Maybe they will - Thanks for watching!
They won’t be able to I’ll be going down fighting. Freedom or death
Nice Job! and, Sound Pandemic Advise. Keep 'em coming!
I'm in Seattle, and it's crazy how empty the streets are downtown. People are taking it seriously, but cabin fever is setting in HARD. My grandson was born on the 25th, and I still haven't seen him in person, which is killing me. I hope you and your loved ones stay healthy, James. And thank you for entertaining us in this weird, ugly time. You're appreciated.
Ok, onto the video; Beta's back story just makes me feel so horrible for him. But I mean, he's actively choosing to be evil. He could've walked away from Alpha, but he never did.
Negan is still my favorite villain, but I'm waiting to see how far Beta goes... he might just be the most evil of ALL the villains. That would be pretty cool.
Thank you and CONGRATS on the grandson - I am so sorry you have not seen him yet - I cannot even imagine that feeling. As long as people stay home - I think it shall pass.
@@TWDExplained I'm trying to stay as positive as you are...
@@cyanide_lollipop3264 lol cute username
@@mycelia_ow Why, thank you very much. It's been with me a long time. lol
Well 2 years later and it’s finally gone 💀 hope everything is well for you guys.
I always thought that he had done something like killed his family or something really traumatic and he can't bring himself to look at himself. Then the fact that he was super famous and everyone would recognise him made it unbearable to keep his face exposed
Man i wish we got a back story episode for him. I was so interested in who he was once they showed him angry about the poster and album
Daryl ends up stabbing knives into Beta's eyes... He could no longer see with those two eyes.
Beta is my favorite villain the show has ever had to be honest he is one of my favorite character from a show or a movie of course Snake Plissken from Escape from New York is my favorite character of all time.
Snake!
The Alpha head thing reminds me of Jason Voorhees keeping the head of his mother Pamela.
I'm near Pittsburgh and I'm staying in and avoiding socializing. Very easy to do!
He never shows the left side of his face , even on his album covers.
Illuminati Beta
I love real Easter Eggs when they connect the universes together. It was awesome and then when Negan. Of all people noticed who he was. Classic that why I still love the show and the spin-offs.
Yep!
"ofcourse spoiler alert", shows negan free and with the whisperers, it's fine i guess, negan wouldn't be in his cell all the time for no reason.
Why do you watch about stuff that you havent seen yet
I feel like an idiot clicking on this as it is still possible they explain him in the season finale but just in case I want to know.
Thanks for the video James, I listened to them often, stay safe, hopefully the real pandemic shuffles off and leaves us with just the TWD virus to concern ourselves with 👍🏻
Also it would be good if they really supercharged Beta into a real killing machine. When he got ambushed by Aaron and Co when Beta had the auntie of the baby (can't remember her name) captured and was tlaing her back to Alpha, Beta sprinted off into the woods at a heck of a speed, also when he fought Daryl Beta was fast and deadly. Of they could really ramp him up that way in complete contrast to his slow and steady Walker-leading way and really make him a front and centre threat and not just a sly one that lies in wait behind his pack of zeds, then that would be fantastic I think. It would make the final take down of the man even more compelling and possibly a bit like when Thanos got jumped by all the avengers, could be an awesome finish.... cheers man
It'll be interesting to see who finally takes him out for sure!! Thanks for watching and the comment!
Ah yes, it’s all fun and games until you remember that the whispers have a army of walkers that they can lead into any of their enemies territory
Negan killed Alpha in order to prove his loyalty to the group and Carol got her revenge by giving the orders and putting her head on a spike. It felt right for the characters to do that. Negan got redeemed and Carol got her revenge.
Now that Negan's proved himself to be a good guy, we need the main group to accept him. And what better way to do it then have the most important member of the group save his life? That guy is Daryl. We need to see Daryl having his moment, but also have him finally accept Negan. Negan already got his moment when he killed Alpha. Daryl has had a great fight with Beta before. It feels right for Daryl to kill Beta, and by doing so save Negan who needs to fight Beta and lose before that.
exactly what happened
8:43 idk about that he didnt seem too happy when that random whisperer accidentally called him alpha
true
Its feels more like to me that his 'Half Moon' self died in the apocalypse so he doesnt want anyone to see him. He is a whisperer a walker
As a fictional symbol...a REAL embodiment of the walking dead and a metaphir of all their lives they left behind, and those they lost. Half Moon is no more the is only Beta now
Beta are for sure the coolest character in the walking dead in a long time. I love him so fucking cool and his voice makes it all like wow. Only sad we don´t get to see his origin more in the show. He are for sure tho my second favorite villain in the entirely show where Negan are number one :)
I’m in nyc. Everyone just stay home please
The only weapon we have right now....I concur.
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2 Random questions I'm hoping someone can answer. Why does eugene not make ammo so they don't have to use sticks as spears? And How does wearing a Walker skin mask cover their scent and keep them from being dinner when in earlier episodes of TWD and FTWD they had to completely coat themselves in Walker guts to blend in?
What is on the album in the background Is that an astronaut and does it have anything to do with anything, should we be looking up?
I assumed he was a country music star based on the cowboy hat he wears on the album.
Thanks for the warning about spoilers
I think These Two Eyes was song lyrics. Hendrix had a bunch of unfinished songs when he died. Little 3 line notes just like that.
And now... 4 years later. The only thing those 2 eyes saw. Was daryls knives 🤣🤣🤣
I honestly thought that beta was an asylum patient when i first saw alpha go into the asylum
@Deep Inside Yeah i was not expecting that at all lmao
Imagine if they were able to get enemies to be on their side without killing them. Slow.
Great commentary !!!!
Thanks Almon-Joi Nye!
Betta don’t seem like the type to want to keep “something positive” alive or keep a positive image alive, seems he just didn’t want ppl knowing who he was for lots of reasons
Quick question: how come the Whisperers didn’t get eaten straight away because they weren’t wearing zombie guts??
supposedly the mask and just bad smell of them never bathing I guess.....did the job same as guts