Fantastic piece. I had never heard it before, but I'm so excited to start learning it. I would love to see more "fake virtuoso" pieces on your channel. Makes an intermediate pianist like me sound amazing!!! Thank you again!
Intermediate pianist?! It's going to make a bare bone basic piano black key masher like me sound like I know what I'm doing. That in it's self is worth it's weight in gold with the amount of confusion I can bedazzle my friends with.
I was a kid when my piano teacher assigned it to me. It’s gorgeous but quite easy to play, especially because it fits the hand like a glove. There are really no any big jumps or stretches.
This brings back memories. I learned this and the Rachmaninov c# prelude during high school and used them to impress people. I had an anthology from the 1930s called “Everyone’s Favorite Piano Music” with these and other now obscure salon favorites. Also a slow piece, “May Night” by Selim Palmgren was in there, I think.
This is an absolutely fabulous piece of piano writing by Sinding. It’s s been in my collection for years but I’ve not had time to study it. I will now! Thank you for sharing this analysis - it’s excellent Work!
This was apparently my great-grandmother's party piece on the piano. She would have been about 10yo when this was published so it was probably a popular piece when she was learning piano.
Yet again a great analysis for our enjoyment and education. Very true, the piece sounds a lot harder than it really is which is a happy surprise when one tries to learn it.
You weren’t kidding. I’m a third year adult piano student. After watching this video a week ago, I decided to take up the challenge of learning this. Obviously I need lots more practice, but I already have the whole piece committed to memory and am playing most parts up to speed. I don’t think I’ve ever learned another piece this quickly or as smoothly. Talk about a confidence booster. I haven’t played it for my teacher yet. I can’t wait for my next lesson.
amazing analysis and amazing piano skills! the rendering (I feel that I can call it that) in which you talked was almost more beautiful somehow beautiful piece!
At first I was surprised there are a lot of compositional similarities between this piece and my process for producing electronic music (minus all the chord movement). Then I considered it could just be that there are universal composition practices LOL
I enjoyed seeing this and hearing it. I would love to have a go at this on harp. It may well be beyond my ability; but it is so lovely, I would love to try. Thankyou for explaining it.
Oh heavens! Not heard this for years. Suddenly transported back to having to listen to _Your Hundred Best Tunes_ and Adam Keith's avuncular tones on BBC radio.
There's a lot of music that sounds "virtuosic," but is easy to play since the fingers/hands don't need to move around much. My teacher described Granados's Allegro de concierto being like this as well (a piece which also contains similar figures to this piece by Sinding)
Beautiful piece and even more beautiful playing. I really like pieces with a bold adventurous sort of vibe. Any tips for the 4 on 3 polyrhythms in Chopin Op48 n1 Cm Nocturne? The major section was hard enough with its massive chords and octaves, but the polyrhythms afterwards stump me because I can't practice fast since the notes are hard, but also can't practice slow because of the polyrythms! Thanks as always for your wonderful presentations and your great choices of pieces (not to mention the playing)
Thank you! If you haven't seen already on the C minor Nocturne: ruclips.net/video/dbYhEIBWK4Q/видео.html That recap place is notoriously difficult. Start with one harmony, one hand at a time and really learn the position shifts, find the right movements and angles for the hands separately (hard even for the 3:3). Then add the 4:3 element, one group at a time and stop at hands together. Then slowly add more and more chunks together.
Pass the stinking butter. If you phrase that a specific way(you can find that on RUclips), and alternate hands with each syllable(both hands on the first), you are playing a 4:3 polyrhythm. You can also do a little bit of math and work out that the LCM of 4 and 3 is 12, so you can make a polyrhythm chart (details are on the internet) and practice and learn it that way. The latter method can actually be used for any polyrhythms, though you’ll need to practice more and more as they increase in LCM. You may want to start small with simple notes.
This wonderful piece was Sinding's "Op32 number 3" (apparently). It is the only Sinding piece that anybody has ever heard of. So I wonder if he spent his life building up to this climax ... ... ... or if there are more gems to be discovered.
It's only "fake" if it's trying to be something it isn't. Perhaps the composer wanted to write it the way we see it. Not all fast moving pieces are virtuosic
Well explained, thank you! I wonder if people would indeed hear the F in the left hand (at 12:00), it is not necessarily much easer to play without the F in question and creates quite a nice momentary dissonance, as it were. Is it advisable to remove notes unless absolutely unplayable, such as the stretch of the hand? The whole point is the slight difference between playing sextuplets and septuplets in this case!
It may may be a bagatelle to the accomplished musician but it’s a thing of beauty to me. Hats off to Sinding. I’ve downloaded it from iTunes but they don’t play this as pleasingly as you do.
I wouldn't think it sounds very hard at least to other pianists. I can see that it might sound harder for a non musician, but to other pianists I would think they would definitely know that it's not too bad of a piece.
There are too pieces that scream virtuosity while being very easy, but it's so fun to show off with them I can't help myself. Any piece with leaps has the same effect.
It's relatively common for piano music arpeggiate chords in all kinds of whacky ways in order to create a good sense of movement and rhythm in the piece. I would even put Chopin Op 25 no 11 and 25/12 into this category. I think my ability to read and play piano music took a huge leap when I realized that both of these pieces are composed of a series of the same arpeggiated chord printed up and down the octaves of the keyboard, and so I didn't really have to read each individual note or learn very many different patterns.
This is very interesting and you sound quite learned. However, is it really important that something is less difficult than it sounds? I take issue with phrases such as "Ultimate FAKE-Virtuosic."
Thank you! "Fake-Virtuosic" is of course an exaggeration. It's a balancing act of coming up with titles and thunbmails that is both representative and interesting enough for the algorithm to recommend them.
The middle part is not that easy. I agree the rest of it is. The middle part might be easy if you are a rather advanced player, but the left hand chromatics and arpeggios, and the timing, is pretty tricky.
"Fake-virtuosic" is really excessive. I didn't notice anything murderously hard, but the left-hand part would certainly take me some work. You could apply the same epithet to Schubert's Impromptu in G-flat. (OMG! Six flats!? But the key signature makes it lie more easily under the fingers than the G major version, I think.)
I have heard his other 23 pieces (in Op.31, Op. 32, Op. 33, and Op. 34, all written in the salonesque style). However, they are all boring; I guess that Sinding simply tried to earn money with them. His piano concerto and piano sonata are more inspirational (though a bit pompous), but in my view, Sinding's best work should be the last symphony "Vinter og vår" (or "Frost and Spring", in English) rather than "Frühlingsrauschen" (i.e., "Rustle of Spring").
How you can make a video lasting 19 minutes to explain the bleeding obvious!!! Composers are constantly trying to make newer sounds and differences in the accompaniments of very good 'tunes'. Sinding has simply put the chord progressions into the right hand but, since he has not the great genius of the great composers, he simply repeats the lot again, because it is a great 'tune'. Leave it at that!!!!!
I cannot see what is gained by listing the chordal progressions as here. Those with the musical knowledge will 'know' while the rest wont have a clue. The RH arpeggios are not easy to balance with the LH melody. Lets just enjoy the music and leave it at that. I write as a failed pianist who struggled through this piece many many years ago. I taught my self the 'chords' but still never became a halfway decent pianist. Bach's contra punctuality is impossible for me but I imagine would be more pleasurable to play than to hear
You are obviously looking in the wrong place. This is a channel about music analysis, and it's done wonderfully here. If you just want to listen to the piece without all the explanations there are many places on RUclips to do that. This channel is for the rest of us who are interested in the "guts" so to speak of the music.
@@lykeioschoolprojects9806 You possibly believe you make a fair point but I say the real beauty of music IS in the harmonic progressions (along with beautiful melodies ) which cannot be taught and ,on which, there is NO agreement IMO is an intrinsic skill The effect ,for example , of Bflat minor going to D flat will depend on the context in which it is written.
@@Richard.Atkinson First of all it depends on what you mean by 'it' You are seriously misguided if you believe you can learn to compose the music present in say Swan Lake by Tchaikovsky. The total effect is achieved by the harmonies , the arrangement of the harmonies and the range instruments used as the music progresses. This is genius and cannot be learned.
It seems that you have a very narrow view of musical knowledge. Of course there is an aspect of "genius" or talent but the actual building blocks of music are there for everyone to learn. As mentioned above that's what we do on this channel, and in this video it's mostly one harmonic change at a time, and my ambition is to connect how that mechanism sounds and feels when you hear it with a simple terminology to talk and think about it (like dominant - tonic, or major-minor). You have a point that there's a risk when doing an analysis to only list chord progressions, and I agree that there's no inherent value in doing that. But it is a useful tool to use to understand and communicate the ideas behind them.
To be honest, it is not fake virtuosic, because it doesn't sound virtuosic at all. It may sound virtuosic to musically untrained people, to which pretty much everything sounds virtuosic
99.99% of people think fur elise is 'virtuosic', while a Scarlatti sonata (that even Horowitz was afraid of playing) is 'easy'. Most people even consider yiruma's pieces extremely difficult. During my 26 teaching years i have heard so much BS from parents and relatives regarding 'virtuosity' that could flood the entire planet... 🤣
It fits nicely under the fingers and is well written for the piano. "Ultimate FAKE-virtuosic" seems a bit harsh, poor Sinding 😅
I know, but it's worth all the views :)
@@SonataSecrets At least you're honest, haha. Many youtubers would act clueless.
@@SonataSecrets Love the honesty. New to your channel, love it so far!
It has kinda a vibe of Schubert 3 Impromtu for me, weird😅
I mean, there's nothing in the title to imply that the piece isn't good, just that it sounds harder than it is (which is completely true btw).
"7 against 8. You never count this." Pearls of wisdom.
Fantastic piece. I had never heard it before, but I'm so excited to start learning it.
I would love to see more "fake virtuoso" pieces on your channel. Makes an intermediate pianist like me sound amazing!!!
Thank you again!
hehe yeah that's the dream! :)
Intermediate pianist?! It's going to make a bare bone basic piano black key masher like me sound like I know what I'm doing. That in it's self is worth it's weight in gold with the amount of confusion I can bedazzle my friends with.
I was a kid when my piano teacher assigned it to me. It’s gorgeous but quite easy to play, especially because it fits the hand like a glove. There are really no any big jumps or stretches.
never stop henrik! what a cool piece, I've somehow never heard it before. beautiful analysis as always!
Lizst's Waldesrauschen?
This brings back memories. I learned this and the Rachmaninov c# prelude during high school and used them to impress people. I had an anthology from the 1930s called “Everyone’s Favorite Piano Music” with these and other now obscure salon favorites. Also a slow piece, “May Night” by Selim Palmgren was in there, I think.
Welcome Bach.
Also, this piece ties well with Mendelssohn's Duetto, and also Liszt's Liebesträume.
Those are quite amazing pieces too! Great idea!
honestly liebesträum is pretty hard
Merikanto impromptu
@@nautilus7506 There are simplified versions of the original on the internet :)
Mendelssohn's Duetto is a favorite of mine. I think most performers take it too fast, making it sound more like an argument than a love duet.
This is an absolutely fabulous piece of piano writing by Sinding. It’s s been in my collection for years but I’ve not had time to study it. I will now! Thank you for sharing this analysis - it’s excellent Work!
Love this piece. Played this in my senior piano recital for undergrad! Sinding has some great gems!
This impressed a lot of people when I was in middle and highschool. Very easy to play, yet sounds impressive.
This was apparently my great-grandmother's party piece on the piano. She would have been about 10yo when this was published so it was probably a popular piece when she was learning piano.
Yet again a great analysis for our enjoyment and education. Very true, the piece sounds a lot harder than it really is which is a happy surprise when one tries to learn it.
You weren’t kidding. I’m a third year adult piano student. After watching this video a week ago, I decided to take up the challenge of learning this. Obviously I need lots more practice, but I already have the whole piece committed to memory and am playing most parts up to speed.
I don’t think I’ve ever learned another piece this quickly or as smoothly. Talk about a confidence booster.
I haven’t played it for my teacher yet. I can’t wait for my next lesson.
amazing analysis and amazing piano skills!
the rendering (I feel that I can call it that) in which you talked was almost more beautiful somehow
beautiful piece!
Wonderful video! Beautiful analysis.
Honestly: It sounds so great when a pianist phrases it more soft, more sensitive, expressive.
Thank you!
Good to see you BACH, I would like you to make another analysis of Schumann's music. He is one of my, if not, my favourite composer.
Thanks for introducing me to such a beautiful piece! Definitely going to give it a go.
This piece is used as hold music for the government here in Canada. That's how I first heard it, haha.
OHHHH thats why it sounded to familiar 😅
haha love this!
it's a GREAT piece as a bridge to bigger things... I teach it a LOT!!!!
I looove how you talk about music, how excited you are, that's so awesome, I want to keep studying music after that video
At first I was surprised there are a lot of compositional similarities between this piece and my process for producing electronic music (minus all the chord movement).
Then I considered it could just be that there are universal composition practices LOL
To me, the ultimate version of this is Khatchaturian's Toccata. That piece somehow is even easier than this one and sounds harder!
The melody in the left hand always fascinated me.
I love this piece!! Didnt know it before! Thanks for this awesome suggestion!
3:12 Ngl it's super impressive that you can effortlessly count and play that 7 against 8 rhythm hands together at a slower tempo.
Years of practice.
I enjoyed seeing this and hearing it. I would love to have a go at this on harp. It may well be beyond my ability; but it is so lovely, I would love to try. Thankyou for explaining it.
Oh heavens! Not heard this for years. Suddenly transported back to having to listen to _Your Hundred Best Tunes_ and Adam Keith's avuncular tones on BBC radio.
I felt so proud when I learned this when I was young 😂😭
Really love that music but believed it’s another compositor. Thanks for that instructive vídeo👍👏👏👏
Never heard that. So beautiful. I'll try jeje
There's a lot of music that sounds "virtuosic," but is easy to play since the fingers/hands don't need to move around much. My teacher described Granados's Allegro de concierto being like this as well (a piece which also contains similar figures to this piece by Sinding)
Another good video. I didnt hear this piece before
,Complimenti per approfondita spiegazione!
Grazie!
Beautiful piece and even more beautiful playing. I really like pieces with a bold adventurous sort of vibe.
Any tips for the 4 on 3 polyrhythms in Chopin Op48 n1 Cm Nocturne? The major section was hard enough with its massive chords and octaves, but the polyrhythms afterwards stump me because I can't practice fast since the notes are hard, but also can't practice slow because of the polyrythms!
Thanks as always for your wonderful presentations and your great choices of pieces (not to mention the playing)
Thank you!
If you haven't seen already on the C minor Nocturne: ruclips.net/video/dbYhEIBWK4Q/видео.html
That recap place is notoriously difficult. Start with one harmony, one hand at a time and really learn the position shifts, find the right movements and angles for the hands separately (hard even for the 3:3). Then add the 4:3 element, one group at a time and stop at hands together. Then slowly add more and more chunks together.
Pass the stinking butter.
If you phrase that a specific way(you can find that on RUclips), and alternate hands with each syllable(both hands on the first), you are playing a 4:3 polyrhythm. You can also do a little bit of math and work out that the LCM of 4 and 3 is 12, so you can make a polyrhythm chart (details are on the internet) and practice and learn it that way. The latter method can actually be used for any polyrhythms, though you’ll need to practice more and more as they increase in LCM. You may want to start small with simple notes.
WONDERFUL analysis!!! :-)))))
Great piece of music
Subbed
Great tutorial, glad I found your channel
Welcome :)
Tak sa mycket for this cute romantic video. U made my day.
Lizst's much more difficult Waldesrauschen is rausching very loud through the piece though.
This wonderful piece was Sinding's "Op32 number 3" (apparently).
It is the only Sinding piece that anybody has ever heard of.
So I wonder if he spent his life building up to this climax ... ... ... or if there are more gems to be discovered.
I love your channel!!!!!
It's only "fake" if it's trying to be something it isn't. Perhaps the composer wanted to write it the way we see it. Not all fast moving pieces are virtuosic
Yeah, "fake" is a bit of an exaggeration.
Well explained, thank you! I wonder if people would indeed hear the F in the left hand (at 12:00), it is not necessarily much easer to play without the F in question and creates quite a nice momentary dissonance, as it were. Is it advisable to remove notes unless absolutely unplayable, such as the stretch of the hand? The whole point is the slight difference between playing sextuplets and septuplets in this case!
It has the effect of a piece where both hands are doing arpeggios and the melody is in the thumbs.
I get what you're saying. I studied this before the Liszt Un Sospiro, but this one got more attention.
Cdom 7 is the secondary dominant of F minor which is the vi chord of Ab major. All the keys are related in some way.
My aunt told me this is easy and i thought she was crazy!
Well done!!))
Congratulations Henrik for the channel, what microphones and interface do you use for piano recordings?
It may may be a bagatelle to the accomplished musician but it’s a thing of beauty to me. Hats off to Sinding. I’ve downloaded it from iTunes but they don’t play this as pleasingly as you do.
Very thoughtful.
bravo !
I wouldn't think it sounds very hard at least to other pianists. I can see that it might sound harder for a non musician, but to other pianists I would think they would definitely know that it's not too bad of a piece.
I think it works for a piece for when your family comes around and asks you to play for their friends
Is there an analysis of Serenade (Ständchen) from Schubert arranged by Liszt for the piano. It sounds so simple yet harmonically complex
It reminds me of Granados Allegro de Concierto XD
I didn't know about that piece, but it is similar. Thanks for the tip!
Please make a analysis of Nocturne 27 no 2!
brilliant ! Do you do Analysis on Satie’s Gnossienne’s? Would love to learn that from you! Thank you!,
ruclips.net/video/em4DWxZORI8/видео.html
There are too pieces that scream virtuosity while being very easy, but it's so fun to show off with them I can't help myself. Any piece with leaps has the same effect.
It's relatively common for piano music arpeggiate chords in all kinds of whacky ways in order to create a good sense of movement and rhythm in the piece. I would even put Chopin Op 25 no 11 and 25/12 into this category. I think my ability to read and play piano music took a huge leap when I realized that both of these pieces are composed of a series of the same arpeggiated chord printed up and down the octaves of the keyboard, and so I didn't really have to read each individual note or learn very many different patterns.
Indeed, extremely useful to recognize patterns like that. The difference with the Chopin etudes is that they are actually very hard!
This is very interesting and you sound quite learned. However, is it really important that something is less difficult than it sounds? I take issue with phrases such as "Ultimate FAKE-Virtuosic."
It's useful for people who want to impress
Thank you! "Fake-Virtuosic" is of course an exaggeration. It's a balancing act of coming up with titles and thunbmails that is both representative and interesting enough for the algorithm to recommend them.
You should analyze Chopin’s Heroic Polonaise (Op.53)
When you say “with a plus” do you mean an augmented internal added in?
Yeah, I meant to say "with a plus five" actually, as an augmented (+5) chord instead of a normal.
nice
The middle part is not that easy. I agree the rest of it is.
The middle part might be easy if you are a rather advanced player, but the left hand chromatics and arpeggios, and the timing, is pretty tricky.
I say that in the video too.
Some of the repeated notes shared by both hands are tricky.
You have to play the Chopin Ballade 1 in g minor.
Done: ruclips.net/video/7kfJvpODcXM/видео.html
2:52 also known as CAug5
It’s like praeludium and allegro but for the piano, they sound hard but they’re not.
Doesnt the 3rd AB a coda?
I would not call it a coda when it's a clear repetition like that, only the very last part which is a new continuation/closure of it.
Super analysis - however. Sinding is just a footnote to Chopin. Arnt/Oslo
chopin etude at home
lmao I should learn this xddd
It might be a little bit of a fake, but I like it anyway. 😀
"Fake-virtuosic" is really excessive. I didn't notice anything murderously hard, but the left-hand part would certainly take me some work. You could apply the same epithet to Schubert's Impromptu in G-flat. (OMG! Six flats!? But the key signature makes it lie more easily under the fingers than the G major version, I think.)
Not that easy, very interesting video and analysis
But the click-bite title is not fake 😉
Exactly!
My circle of pianist friends have a term for this kind of music. We used to call this "flash-n-trash". XD
good one 😅
Except its not all that bad in content... It could be much worse..
🙋 𝓟Ř𝔬𝓂𝔬𝐒ϻ
I have heard his other 23 pieces (in Op.31, Op. 32, Op. 33, and Op. 34, all written in the salonesque style). However, they are all boring; I guess that Sinding simply tried to earn money with them. His piano concerto and piano sonata are more inspirational (though a bit pompous), but in my view, Sinding's best work should be the last symphony "Vinter og vår" (or "Frost and Spring", in English) rather than "Frühlingsrauschen" (i.e., "Rustle of Spring").
Uhmmm but looks far from hard though
How you can make a video lasting 19 minutes to explain the bleeding obvious!!!
Composers are constantly trying to make newer sounds and differences in the accompaniments of very good 'tunes'. Sinding has simply put the chord progressions into the right hand but, since he has not the great genius of the great composers, he simply repeats the lot again, because it is a great 'tune'. Leave it at that!!!!!
I cannot see what is gained by listing the chordal progressions
as here.
Those with the musical knowledge will 'know' while the rest wont have a clue.
The RH arpeggios are not easy to balance with the LH melody. Lets just enjoy the music and leave it at that.
I write as a failed pianist who struggled through this piece many many years ago. I taught my self the 'chords' but still never became a halfway decent pianist.
Bach's contra punctuality is impossible for me but I imagine would be more pleasurable to play than to hear
You are obviously looking in the wrong place. This is a channel about music analysis, and it's done wonderfully here. If you just want to listen to the piece without all the explanations there are many places on RUclips to do that. This channel is for the rest of us who are interested in the "guts" so to speak of the music.
@@lykeioschoolprojects9806
You possibly believe you make a fair point but I say the real beauty of music IS in the harmonic progressions (along with beautiful melodies ) which cannot be taught and ,on which, there is NO agreement
IMO is an intrinsic skill
The effect ,for example , of Bflat minor going to D flat will depend on the context in which it is written.
Nonsense! Of course it can be taught!
@@Richard.Atkinson
First of all it depends on what you mean by 'it'
You are seriously misguided if you believe you can learn to compose the music present in say Swan Lake by Tchaikovsky.
The total effect is achieved by the harmonies , the arrangement of the harmonies and the range instruments used as the music progresses.
This is genius and cannot be learned.
It seems that you have a very narrow view of musical knowledge. Of course there is an aspect of "genius" or talent but the actual building blocks of music are there for everyone to learn. As mentioned above that's what we do on this channel, and in this video it's mostly one harmonic change at a time, and my ambition is to connect how that mechanism sounds and feels when you hear it with a simple terminology to talk and think about it (like dominant - tonic, or major-minor).
You have a point that there's a risk when doing an analysis to only list chord progressions, and I agree that there's no inherent value in doing that. But it is a useful tool to use to understand and communicate the ideas behind them.
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To be honest, it is not fake virtuosic, because it doesn't sound virtuosic at all. It may sound virtuosic to musically untrained people, to which pretty much everything sounds virtuosic
99.99% of people think fur elise is 'virtuosic', while a Scarlatti sonata (that even Horowitz was afraid of playing) is 'easy'. Most people even consider yiruma's pieces extremely difficult. During my 26 teaching years i have heard so much BS from parents and relatives regarding 'virtuosity' that could flood the entire planet... 🤣
well, there are degrees of sounding virtuosic to musically untrained people ;)
@@KosmasLapatas Yiruma, Yann Tiersen and Einaudi are the most non virtuosic crap on the planet
Played way too slow and doesn't capture the piece sorry
If this is a fake virtuoso show picece then so are the Turkish March by Mozart and Für Elise by Beethoven.