Let's ignore what is printed on the batteries and evaluate them on how they perform and how much they cost. In this review, an EBL AA rechargeable battery delivered about 2200 mAh and cost $1.59. An Amazon Basics AA rechargeable battery delivered about 2400 mAh and cost $2.70. So, compared to EBL, an Amazon Basics AA rechargeable battery had 9% more capacity and cost 71% more. That makes the EBL battery sound like the better deal. Another important factor is how much power the batteries deliver when they are no longer new. In a separate review, the EBL battery produced about 2400 mAh both when new (ruclips.net/video/0A1GvQ40j0Q/видео.html ) and after a nearly a year of daily use (ruclips.net/video/-jXQNY6rve8/видео.html ). The Amazon Basics battery also performed well after nearly a year of daily use. An Amazon Basics battery does better than an EBL if you charge the battery and let it sit on a shelf for a year before using it, but I regularly use and recharge my rechargeable batteries, so that test does not matter to me. In short, the EBL battery is not a 2800 mAh battery, but it is a pretty good value as a 2200 or 2400 mAh battery.
There are also other factors, like self-discharge, to consider. There were some people who did some tests on RUclips a few years back and found that the EBLs didn't perform too great in this regard.
@@photoniccannon2117 Assume anything not the standard 2000-2300mAh to not be LSD cells. The more mAh the worse the ability to cells are to last long not cycled. The EBLs are just not LSD from the start. I did have a 2300mAh model I got from work that seemed OK. The largest Factor I think is a combo of Low-Self-Discharge/Pre-Charge and how fast that Internal Resistance builds when cells are in storage. Like LiIon fully charged cells get damaged faster then half full ones for storage. But it makes less sense to not have AA charged ready to go.
Prior to 2020, Amazon Basics were good batteries because they were made in Japan. Starting in 2020, production has moved to China, and the quality has deteriorated accordingly.
If you want proper Japan-made batteries you're free to purchase eneloops since the 2020 Amazon batteries were really rebadged eneloops I think it's proper to compare batteries based on what they are rather than what country they came from. I still think the Amazon batteries have a good price to performance ratio compared to the other brands, and they're still the brand I go with.
For what it's worth, I bought a new set of 2000mah Amazon Basics rechargeables and they slightly exceeded their rated capacity on the very first cycle on my charger/tester. They actually performed better than the ones I bought a couple years ago. Of course, there are other factors too like self-discharge and so forth, I haven't done any kind of test to see how they perform there.
Amazon Basics also has 2000mah batteries that are a great deal IMO. I bought some recently and put them on my tester, and found that they got about 2020mah or so on the very first cycle. I was a little bit surprised that they met their rated capacity without breaking them in, most NiMH batteries need a few cycles before they reach their full capacity.
Amazon Basics prices have come down since. I just saw 8-pack AZ Basics AA NiMH for under $13. I may get those versus a new order for Ikea LADDA 2450 which are basically Panasonic Eneloops. Ikeas are $9.99 for four. Basics beats that - as long as they perform with same level cycle count.
So from your charger test, Amazon was only about 10% higher capacity, but it cost about 40% more. To me, the EBL are better. Save 40% money and sacrifice only 10% energy.
Sure as long as it's designed for NiMH batteries. The 1.2V is low but that sounds like a nominal voltage. Check to see what chemistry it was designed for
I bought an 8 pack of EBL batteries and half of them failed within a year and only 1 is still working at nowhere near it’s rated capacity 5 years later. EBL batteries are currently $15 for an 8 pack and Amazon basics are $16 for an 8 pack. I find the choice of Amazon basics to be evident. Also I highly suspect the Amazon basics are rebranded Eneloop batteries based on my charger/ analyzer findings and daily use case.
From the reviews it sounds like they are now made in China. If you want Genuine Eneloops, besides Panasonic themselves. You can get Ikea LADDA cells, or Fujitsu(They actually manufacture Eneloops in Japan for Panasonic still). The cost difference is not that much but you still save a few bucks for the Pro/2450mAh model.
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I got 8 pack Amazon basic high capacity 2400mAh AA for $6 last week, it was on a deal. So I guess I got a real deal.
OMG EBL sucks - they lasted less then a year in almost all of my applications. Also they update and change generation without updating any markings making it hard to tell which ones are old vs new
They've been known to exaggerate their capacity claims pretty consistently. I don't really buy any of their stuff because of that, it's hard to tell what you're actually getting.
Let's ignore what is printed on the batteries and evaluate them on how they perform and how much they cost. In this review, an EBL AA rechargeable battery delivered about 2200 mAh and cost $1.59. An Amazon Basics AA rechargeable battery delivered about 2400 mAh and cost $2.70. So, compared to EBL, an Amazon Basics AA rechargeable battery had 9% more capacity and cost 71% more. That makes the EBL battery sound like the better deal. Another important factor is how much power the batteries deliver when they are no longer new. In a separate review, the EBL battery produced about 2400 mAh both when new (ruclips.net/video/0A1GvQ40j0Q/видео.html ) and after a nearly a year of daily use (ruclips.net/video/-jXQNY6rve8/видео.html ). The Amazon Basics battery also performed well after nearly a year of daily use. An Amazon Basics battery does better than an EBL if you charge the battery and let it sit on a shelf for a year before using it, but I regularly use and recharge my rechargeable batteries, so that test does not matter to me. In short, the EBL battery is not a 2800 mAh battery, but it is a pretty good value as a 2200 or 2400 mAh battery.
I think it's important that a battery should meet its rated capacity.
This is what I was expecting the reviewer to do, but you did it! 🎉 Thanks.
There are also other factors, like self-discharge, to consider. There were some people who did some tests on RUclips a few years back and found that the EBLs didn't perform too great in this regard.
@@photoniccannon2117 Assume anything not the standard 2000-2300mAh to not be LSD cells. The more mAh the worse the ability to cells are to last long not cycled. The EBLs are just not LSD from the start. I did have a 2300mAh model I got from work that seemed OK. The largest Factor I think is a combo of Low-Self-Discharge/Pre-Charge and how fast that Internal Resistance builds when cells are in storage. Like LiIon fully charged cells get damaged faster then half full ones for storage. But it makes less sense to not have AA charged ready to go.
@@SmartPennyPincher These are all value cells. To me this is about cost/Energy Ratio. But there's better options I think.
Prior to 2020, Amazon Basics were good batteries because they were made in Japan. Starting in 2020, production has moved to China, and the quality has deteriorated accordingly.
Not sure this is a good assessment. Japan is just not competitive when it come to making batteries.
If you want proper Japan-made batteries you're free to purchase eneloops since the 2020 Amazon batteries were really rebadged eneloops
I think it's proper to compare batteries based on what they are rather than what country they came from.
I still think the Amazon batteries have a good price to performance ratio compared to the other brands, and they're still the brand I go with.
@@JessicaFEREM I settled on IKEA Ladda (made in Japan). $10 for 4 pieces
For what it's worth, I bought a new set of 2000mah Amazon Basics rechargeables and they slightly exceeded their rated capacity on the very first cycle on my charger/tester. They actually performed better than the ones I bought a couple years ago. Of course, there are other factors too like self-discharge and so forth, I haven't done any kind of test to see how they perform there.
@@User-pq2yn Same here.
Amazon Basics also has 2000mah batteries that are a great deal IMO. I bought some recently and put them on my tester, and found that they got about 2020mah or so on the very first cycle. I was a little bit surprised that they met their rated capacity without breaking them in, most NiMH batteries need a few cycles before they reach their full capacity.
Thanks for sharing
Nice review. I was wondering about the same thing and you did a very in depth and profession review. Nice.
Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it. I'm glad the video helped.
The unknown/untested factors are the voltage fall-off curve during discharge, and charge retention over time when not being discharged.
The tester I used does not have graphing capabilities but you could do this yourself with the right equipment.
Amazon Basics prices have come down since. I just saw 8-pack AZ Basics AA NiMH for under $13. I may get those versus a new order for Ikea LADDA 2450 which are basically Panasonic Eneloops. Ikeas are $9.99 for four. Basics beats that - as long as they perform with same level cycle count.
If you want to be sure you get quality then, make sure it's made in Japan. Chinese cells are OK New, but down the line they go bad faster.
Good to know thanks.
So from your charger test, Amazon was only about 10% higher capacity, but it cost about 40% more. To me, the EBL are better. Save 40% money and sacrifice only 10% energy.
I alredy own a sony charger, that outputs 1.2V 360mA. Can I use that one to rechargre any of these?
Sure as long as it's designed for NiMH batteries. The 1.2V is low but that sounds like a nominal voltage. Check to see what chemistry it was designed for
Thank you
You're welcome, I hope it helped
Thanks you 👍🏼
You are welcome. I hope it helped.
Good video/ information.
Thanks, I'm glad it helped
Thanks. Compared to loops would be nice too tho
You're welcome. I have some older Eneloops but have not purchased new ones in a while.
very good informative video😊
So nice of you to say. I'm glad it helped.
I bought an 8 pack of EBL batteries and half of them failed within a year and only 1 is still working at nowhere near it’s rated capacity 5 years later. EBL batteries are currently $15 for an 8 pack and Amazon basics are $16 for an 8 pack. I find the choice of Amazon basics to be evident. Also I highly suspect the Amazon basics are rebranded Eneloop batteries based on my charger/ analyzer findings and daily use case.
Wow @twhite19782012 that's interesting. I've always wondered who really make the Amazon Basic's batteries. They perform well in all of my tests.
From the reviews it sounds like they are now made in China. If you want Genuine Eneloops, besides Panasonic themselves. You can get Ikea LADDA cells, or Fujitsu(They actually manufacture Eneloops in Japan for Panasonic still). The cost difference is not that much but you still save a few bucks for the Pro/2450mAh model.
I got 8 pack Amazon basic high capacity 2400mAh AA for $6 last week, it was on a deal. So I guess I got a real deal.
That's great news.
Amazon rechargeable batteries meet and sometimes overexceed expectation.
@@Onotosho yes but Panasonic eneloop are definitely better, I text them and Panasonic last longer
Eneloop is always going to be better, didn't bring it up, but they the best batteries around. Amazon rechargeables are decent quality
OMG EBL sucks - they lasted less then a year in almost all of my applications. Also they update and change generation without updating any markings making it hard to tell which ones are old vs new
Yeah I'm not a huge fan of EBL either.
They've been known to exaggerate their capacity claims pretty consistently. I don't really buy any of their stuff because of that, it's hard to tell what you're actually getting.