The MC3000 would analyze the magic smoke battery just fine man. Check it out. Also, you should cycle the batteries multiple times, because the capacity most likely will increase after a few cycles in most cases.
Yeah well let's wait to see if he is actually going to release the follow-up video... Only about 3 months left. I am kind of bummed he did not include the Eneloop
Holy shit, that's quite a commitment. I'll be looking forward to the future test in a year. Keep in mind if you want to get through 1000 cycles in a year, you'd have to charge and discharge them 2-3 times a day.
I've got 20 year old every ready dual nicad, nimh battery charges and AA battery's 15 years old, that are charged daily for use in a portable dab radio, and right now they last about 45 minutes after a 4hr charge, they use to last approx 3 hours, same batteries.. So if regularly used can last a long time, I've also got nicads over 20 years old in an outdoor solar light, that comes on at dusk and charges during the day, these now last about 30 minutes when they use to last through the night..
did the 1000 chargingcycles with the EBL AA Batteries over the past 5 Years, Bought 8 of em, 5 are still doing great. I use them in my Camping lamp which I actually use as my Bedroomlamp 😅 It eats a set of Batteries every 3-4 days so yeah I get close to the 1000 cycles. The AA's do last but the AAA's from EBL died away like fruitflies within 2 years. Replaced them with Powerowl and "Tedi" branded rechargables and I have to say I am absolutely blown away from the Tedi branded ones, they still have their claimed capacity after 3-4 years
I bought 16 Tenergy 2800 mAh AA batteries (and eight AAA Tenergys) and the Tenergy eight bay battery charger from Amazon. And as a ham radio operator that has insane experience with Nickel-Metal Hydrides for 30 years, they are the best ones I've ever had by far. You can leave them in a radio or whatever or leave them on a shelf and they hold their charge so much better than any I have ever owned.
You should definitely re-run the capacity test and record the results every month or so throughout the year if you didn't already plan to. also, could be interesting to see which batteries get the warmest when fast charging and in use
I can't believe you didn't include Eneloop batteries. Best rechargable battery hands down. Eneloop has 2000 mAh. My oldest Eneloop batteries have lasted over 10 years so far. They still have over 60% life, which is leagues better than most rechargeables. So for longevity Eneloop might be the best, but I haven't read reviews of other batteries.
Tyler, that "AA Battery" is a lithium-ion battery. It has a regulator to drop the Li-on 3.7 volts to 1.5 volts. When you tried to charge it with a nickel metal charger, you probably damaged that circuit, and possibly the battery itself. That type of battery runs at 1.5 until it can no longer provide 1.5 volts, then it shuts off. That's why it acted the way it did when you tried to use it to run the fan.
Panasonic Eneloops are my go-to rechargeable batteries. The standard white ones and “pro” black ones have served me well for years. I wonder how they’d fare in this test.
The whites are rated a 2000 and pros at 2600. Even if they met those marks, the value isn't really there. The pros are $4.61 per cell right now in an 8 pack. They would have to really make up for it in longevity or low self discharge or something.
This, I feel like noone brings this up the Eneloops are so damn expensive for 4 Eneloops you get 12 of those Amazon's ones that are 2400 they are clearly a much better value even if 1 or 2 of them died, they have a close enough capacity and they're cheap
that is a crazy commitment to charge and drain those batteries every day! thank you for having the dedication to make all these projects into interesting fun videos :) I’ll be looking forward to the follow up video!
I noticed you didn't use Eneloop a Panasonic brand. I've used the same set of 8 batteries for about 10 years or maybe more and they're still decent batteries for wireless gaming controllers.
When I clicked on this video I was expecting a topic on which rechargeable battery is the best, however I walked away with vast knowledge on the finite universe in which we reside. Truly peak performance, what others see as a grain of sand in a desert on this RUclips platform, I see all the atoms and molecules which reside in said grain. Thank you for blessing us with this. Also tiddy.
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Draining and recharging the batteries once a day is a hell of a commitment to make! Glad to see you're so dedicated to this!
Excellent test. I just bought a 24 pack of Amazon rechargeable aa’s and a 24 pack of rechargeable aaa’s. Came here to justify my purchase and now I feel even better about it, thanks
I can tell you what was happening to him at 1:50, he was trying to sneeze. He was trying to use looking at light to force a sneeze cause his nose was tingling. He may have photic sneeze reflex like I do, which means heavy eye stimulation triggers sneezing. It's actually quite useful when you feel the need to sneeze.
@@Xrayfk05 except eneloop do a normal version and a high capacity version (pro) for that very reason. The normal ones rated for 2000 cycles, the pros at 500 cycles.
@@EspadaMK I have both of those batteries, I use eneloop's for my VR controllers. They are at 1.4v when they come off my charger and maintain the voltage for longer, they don't suffer droop like other batteries. It's the same with 18650's as well, I have high and low capacity and the largest, and most expensive, show significant degradation after 500-800 cycles as well.
To promote battery lifespan and reduce the risk of handheld napalm fans, rechargeable batteries have battery management systems (BMS). These are what control the charge/discharge rates and levels of the units. That is why the fans just shut off at a certain level instead of fading out. It is also why the operational maths aren't necessarily a direct reflection of mAh. Great job! I appreciate you informing me that I bought crap batteries. :)
Couldn't help but chuckle when I saw the cooked pasta stuck to the wall. I think Tyler is the only real tuber on here. Everyone seems fake or overactive. Tyler is one of us that made it.
It's also a Lithium battery.. Not Nimh battery.. That's why the first one fried in the charger! I take it Tyler doesn't read the description on Amazon..
@@Tig3rj Thinking of "the average person", if it looks like a battery it probably charges like a battery. Unknowingly those people create an incendiary device...Who reads chinglese descriptions?
I didn't read all of the comments but the regular Duracell battery is 1.5V and most rechargeable batteries are only 1.2V. Something to think about there. Thanks for doing this test!
Yes, I noticed that, too. I'm very happy with the Eneloop batteries I've used for the last 10 years. They are 1,900 mAh, and they only take 3 hours to recharge. I was surprised when Tyler mentioned that he was going to recharge his batteries for 12 hours! That seemed rather excessive to me.
I'm so happy that he's gonna do a year of charge/discharges, I figured he was just gonna ignore the longevity aspect. I would've been happy if he'd just ran the first test like 20 times in a row but dayum.
I really needed some TylerTube. I was just watching Muta's cat video and was feeling way sad. But who could be sad watching Tyler test random Amazon stuff?
While you continue testing, could you do a shelf life test on the rechargeable batteries too? We would like to know after you’ve charged them to full capacity and they’ve set on the shelf for say a month, which one loses the most power?
5:40 the usb recharge battery is a lithium battery with a buck converter to drop it to constant 1.5v. when the internal lithium 3.7v battery "dies" gets below it's minimum voltage cutoff the buck converter just shuts off the output.
Results also depend on fans motor quality, batteries' voltage (discharge curve - more voltage=more speed) and chemistry (this time there were only NiMH and a single li-ion): * NiMH usually start at 1.4V then stay at 1.3-1.2V most of the time (fans with them will rotate slower and flashlights will be dimmer). And also since they're working at 1.2-1.3V most of the time - some smart electronics will think that betteries are almost discharged even on full batteries. * Li-ion batteries (with built in 1.5V regulators and usb chargers) are running at locked 1.5V until they're completely discharged. I find them dangerous to use and even store - electronics inside them is very dumb and li-ion is dangerous when something goes wrong. But when they work they're VERY convenient - as they dont require special chargers and 100% compatible due to 1.5V output. Capacity is kinda meh because of all of the additional electronics in them. * NiCd - terrible old technology, 1.2V, worse in all possible ways than NiMH. * NiZn - spicy boys. Fully charged they start from 1.85V, then quickly drop to 1.6-1.7V and only right before full discharge it starts dropping to 1.4-1.5V. That means that fans will spin faster and flashlights shine brighter (but more stress on such dumb components, in rare cases can fry electronics). Smart-ish electronics will believe that battery is almost fully charged even when its almost dead. Some electonics that doesnt like lower NiMH volatges works better with NiZn than on Alkalines (normal batteries). Compared to NiMH their capacity varies depending on use case (can be worse or better).
Hey Tyler, awesome test! In addition to the life cycle test that you intend to do, could you do a long term test where you charge them, leave them for several months or a year inside a flashlight without turning it on and then testing what capacity they have left after such time and how long they last? Maybe you could leave one unit of each battery inside a flashlight and another unit of each battery in their plastic case without making contact with anything to see if there’s a difference. I feel like with every rechargeable battery I’ve used, even though I always leave them fully charged, they usually die fairly early/not even hold any charge when I try to use them a few months after charging them.
Here is one thing to think about. A different fan was used for each battery, which each could draw different amps. Nothing to noticeable, but maybe enough to effect the results. I wonder what would happen if Duracell and Amazon batteries switched fans, if you would get the same result.
The quality control on the fans is important, a slight difference in friction would change the results. Comparing two batteries at a time would mean the fans could also be tested. The two fans with the closest characteristics could be identified. Maybe take two makes of batteries at a time and have quarter finals etc I like the idea of testing several at a time, but there are a number of parameters. Holding a charge over time, say a week, a month, three months .. Lots of videos possible !
I've been off grid for many, many years and used a lot of different types of rechargeable batteries and I used to use rayovac and Energizer batteries but when I started using the thunderbolt rechargeable batteries they seam to last longer than the more expensive ones and also lasted longer in years of charging them.
Eneloop batts are great. They may not have the best capacity, but they always have great self discharge specs and maximum charge cycles. Amazon basics that I used in 2017 had a limited service life. I used AA Eneloops extensively in my job. Eneloops sold in N. America are made in Japan.
Amazon Basics tend to be rebranded Eneloop. The higher capacity NiMh batteries are usually a little thicker than standard capacity and don't fit in all devices that alkaline will fit into.
Air draft on both sides of fans that are standing in the middle of the row helps them to preserve energy. Fans that are on edgeds have that kind of helpful stream of airflow present only on one side. Maybe that contributed to the struggles of fan #1 and to the success of the Amazon battery.
EBL barely holds a charge over time either. A note here, you can just about tell the capacity of a cell by weight in grams. The heavier the more output. The USB chargeable ones are actually 3.7 lithium Ion cells, regulated down to 1.5 volts.
I've been using various rechargeable AA batteries for a 8 or 10 years now and while I bought some Duracell and Energizer here and there I've gone mainly with Power Owl after finding the Amazon ones occasionally slightly out of spec (short) in size causing the odd one here and there to not fit in all my AA needing devices which I put down to quality control at the source. I've seen reports of similar quality control issues with Power Owl in size but haven't had any trouble with the several orders I've placed in the last couple years.
This test is probably one of your absolute best this year. Seems completely serious and a test you can actually benefit from, even in Sweden, where I am. Thanks!
I have been waiting for this video since the non rechargeable battery video. I went out and bought Thunderbolt Edge batteries after that and they work like a dream. It was the first time I'd ever gone into a Harbor Freight store too.
Tyler I want to say I really appreciate your channel You put in a lot of work that a lot of us aren't willing to do and nobody's paying you to do this at least amazon's not paying you or duracell is not paying you... It's like a consumer report.... If we had videos like this in the eighties and nihe's that we're easily accessible there would be a lot of products that just never made it as far as they did because people would be able to give their honest opinions... I'm glad that crap products get called out... If you're gonna make something crappy be honest about it a lot of people are still probably going to buy it... Or make something not crappy.... But yes a lot of people are gonna run out and buy the drill driver that's only thirty bucks because they have three projects they need to get done and they don't need to spend two hundred and fifty dollars on a drill....
For NiMH, the rechargeables that get a lot of press are the ENELOOP brand. I have more recently been getting good value from some LiION rechargeable AAs.
The USB C prot battery is a lithium battery dressed up as a AA battery, they sound good but because of the added voltage stuff in it the capacity sucks pretty hard and they waste a LOT of power in the conversion from 3.7V to 1.5V. they also only tend to last a handful of recharge discharge cycles before they clap out.
YOU CAN BUY 14500 BATTERIES WHICH ARE BASICALLY AA BATTERIES , but run at 3.2 to 3.7 volts like an 18650. that way you dont lose battery capacity on extra electronics to downgrade the voltage to 1.5. Then they sell dummy batteries , so if your flashlight usually uses 2 aa's, use 1 x 14500 and a dummy and you'll get a slightly brighter beam and long lasting. just charge them in a li-ion charger
I would buy Amazon basics. However there is one more test, which is consistency. Will another battery from the same pack perform the same or are there inconsistencies?
I would love to see a test with remote control cars or flying toys because all the stuff I buy for my grandkids seems to run out of battery life in 15 minutes or even less. I think it's really kind of creepy but I was just about to shop for a new battery charger because my Energizer 15-minute charger seems to have quit working on me and the algorithm talk to your video up. At any rate you have a new subscriber!
I would recommend going off percentages instead of the milamps. For the charge and discharge. I'd also suggest getting those solar puck lights and throw them outside. It'll drain and recharge and show how the weather treats the batteries.
not trying to defend trash where the label applies, but the usb charge one was 1.5v, while the others were 1.2v batteries. in some devices it matters, in the vast majority of devices it doesn't though. just pointing that out as a downfall of rechargeable batteries are typically 1.2v. great video as always tyler :D
Brilliant Test Results. I love the Fan speed. I could almost feel the breeze from my Laptop.... Lol. But I am glad I have bought PowerCell ones as they seem to be quite good in your test. Nice work Tyler. We look forward to seeing you in 2025 with the ultimate discharge/recharge cycle.
Hey thanks for the video! Good stuff here. I just have a couple notes on your test method. In terms of the fans you used, they are all the same which is good but there could be different motor resistance inside each, causing different batteries to have different loading. Also, the pitch of the foam blades may not be the same on each because of the flexible foam. That would also cause different loading on each battery. Lastly, the two fans at the ends, experience different aerodynamic loading due to the Coanda effect. Essentially the two fans at the ends experience a higher load, which may be why the Duracel didnt last as long, despite having a larger capacity. One last note, each battery chemistry has a certain discharge capability. That might be why some of them have lower capacity while being the same size. I think I read somewhere that capacity is inversely related to discharge rating.
Yo! T! What up? I did the per second cost equation for you on the top three batteries. Rounding off to the first four digits, here are the results. Duracell costs .0098 cents per second. Amazon basics costs .0067 cents per second. And the winner : Power owl costs .0048 cents per second. Although those results do stand on their own, I do have a follow up question. What are the individual chemical metal make ups of each individual battery?
I actually use the ebl, and they are incredibly durable. Been charging and recharging then for over a year. Well worth the money. And they have decent capacity, but it's not a big deal anyways, since you can just get a bunch of batteries, and charge them all up, and your good to go. The reason why i mental durability, is because they won't last forever, eventually they will stop working. So you have to check how many charges they are good for. So i know the ebl will work great
Each individual battery's capacity could vary a bit. In a test like you did with the fans, 50mAh-s or so counts quite a bit. If you didn't use the exact same batteries wich you tested previously for capacity, maybe that's why the Duracell died before the amazon basics. It could be from a slighty worse batch, or the Amazon basics could be from a slightly better.
You need to do each test multiple times. There will be variances. Then figure the statistics of the tests. The endurance test with the fans is neglecting the variances in the fans themselves. I'd switch the batteries in the last two fans and run the test again (multiple times). Yeah, I know, it would be very time consuming.
I love your videos for many reasons but one of the main reasons is you are doing these tests because you genuinely have no idea what the results will be and want to find out yourself. Me (and all the viewers) love seeing your reactions. This channel is so great simply because it is your average Joe(Tyler in this case) testing things. Keep doing what you're and please never change. Hands down favourite channel
I’ve had my same reachable energizer batteries for over 6 yrs and I’ve never had to replace them. They are the best 🛑 also I game most days with the Xbox. So yes they are very good
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The Amazon basic link are for triple aaa
The MC3000 would analyze the magic smoke battery just fine man. Check it out. Also, you should cycle the batteries multiple times, because the capacity most likely will increase after a few cycles in most cases.
was a bit surprised you didn't have any Eneloop batteries, those have been said to be the king of rechargeables and i have to agree.
@@kfin45 triple aaa? AAA AAA AAA??? I’ve never heard of that battery
Try the habor freight batteries I wanna see how they are never tried them
Draining and recharging the batteries once a day is a hell of a commitment to make! Glad to see you're so dedicated to this!
Yeah not worth it in my opinion.
worth it
Every bit worth it if you have a favorite flashlight that uses double a or similar batteries or other high drain devices
People drain and recharge their phones everyday.
Yeah well let's wait to see if he is actually going to release the follow-up video... Only about 3 months left. I am kind of bummed he did not include the Eneloop
Finally! Tyler starts an episode by ACTUALLY CHARGING THE BATTERIES FIRST!
Ayyy 🤣
I mean, rechargeable vs non rechargeable
@@intelatomtmYeahhhhh
Not sure what he's on about
Probably gave him the idea for the video. Instead of one of those "you guys complained so I'll do it again" model. I'm not mad at it.
How boring
Holy shit, that's quite a commitment. I'll be looking forward to the future test in a year. Keep in mind if you want to get through 1000 cycles in a year, you'd have to charge and discharge them 2-3 times a day.
I've got 20 year old every ready dual nicad, nimh battery charges and AA battery's 15 years old, that are charged daily for use in a portable dab radio, and right now they last about 45 minutes after a 4hr charge, they use to last approx 3 hours, same batteries..
So if regularly used can last a long time, I've also got nicads over 20 years old in an outdoor solar light, that comes on at dusk and charges during the day, these now last about 30 minutes when they use to last through the night..
did the 1000 chargingcycles with the EBL AA Batteries over the past 5 Years, Bought 8 of em, 5 are still doing great. I use them in my Camping lamp which I actually use as my Bedroomlamp 😅 It eats a set of Batteries every 3-4 days so yeah I get close to the 1000 cycles. The AA's do last but the AAA's from EBL died away like fruitflies within 2 years. Replaced them with Powerowl and "Tedi" branded rechargables and I have to say I am absolutely blown away from the Tedi branded ones, they still have their claimed capacity after 3-4 years
I bought 16 Tenergy 2800 mAh AA batteries (and eight AAA Tenergys) and the Tenergy eight bay battery charger from Amazon. And as a ham radio operator that has insane experience with Nickel-Metal Hydrides for 30 years, they are the best ones I've ever had by far. You can leave them in a radio or whatever or leave them on a shelf and they hold their charge so much better than any I have ever owned.
You should definitely re-run the capacity test and record the results every month or so throughout the year if you didn't already plan to. also, could be interesting to see which batteries get the warmest when fast charging and in use
I can't believe you didn't include Eneloop batteries. Best rechargable battery hands down. Eneloop has 2000 mAh. My oldest Eneloop batteries have lasted over 10 years so far. They still have over 60% life, which is leagues better than most rechargeables. So for longevity Eneloop might be the best, but I haven't read reviews of other batteries.
Agree. Should have included Eneloop batteries. They seem to be the most popular and the only ones I use.
My Eneloops have lasted 8 years so far. Hell of a brand.
He actually did in an older video lol bout 3 years ago
What about Ikea which some say is identical to eneloop.
@JustinBallard117 is that a serious question? Eneloop is godlike.
Tyler, that "AA Battery" is a lithium-ion battery. It has a regulator to drop the Li-on 3.7 volts to 1.5 volts. When you tried to charge it with a nickel metal charger, you probably damaged that circuit, and possibly the battery itself. That type of battery runs at 1.5 until it can no longer provide 1.5 volts, then it shuts off. That's why it acted the way it did when you tried to use it to run the fan.
Its a tight package, but that regulator should have had a blocking diode
Probably why the runtime is so short, they have to fit extra stuff in the same space.
Panasonic Eneloops are my go-to rechargeable batteries. The standard white ones and “pro” black ones have served me well for years. I wonder how they’d fare in this test.
The whites are rated a 2000 and pros at 2600. Even if they met those marks, the value isn't really there. The pros are $4.61 per cell right now in an 8 pack. They would have to really make up for it in longevity or low self discharge or something.
This, I feel like noone brings this up the Eneloops are so damn expensive for 4 Eneloops you get 12 of those Amazon's ones that are 2400 they are clearly a much better value even if 1 or 2 of them died, they have a close enough capacity and they're cheap
@@F0XD1Estandard ones are the best they last a butt-ton of time
that is a crazy commitment to charge and drain those batteries every day! thank you for having the dedication to make all these projects into interesting fun videos :) I’ll be looking forward to the follow up video!
Or he will just have a crazy cool breeze blowing through his house and live in luxury
still waiting lol
@@MerkMonarchX right 😭 i wonder if it’s in the backlog or those batteries are forgotten somewhere in the garage
@@samisbasement very well possible with this man 😂 we will either never see them again, or a video 7 years later
Thanks for taking the time to do this. Well documented testing and research. Really helped me make a decision on which rechargable to buy.
I noticed you didn't use Eneloop a Panasonic brand. I've used the same set of 8 batteries for about 10 years or maybe more and they're still decent batteries for wireless gaming controllers.
i agree. i have a set of eneloops and have been pretty impressed with them
where did you buy yours?
When I clicked on this video I was expecting a topic on which rechargeable battery is the best, however I walked away with vast knowledge on the finite universe in which we reside. Truly peak performance, what others see as a grain of sand in a desert on this RUclips platform, I see all the atoms and molecules which reside in said grain. Thank you for blessing us with this. Also tiddy.
Draining and recharging the batteries once a day is a hell of a commitment to make! Glad to see you're so dedicated to this!
Excellent test. I just bought a 24 pack of Amazon rechargeable aa’s and a 24 pack of rechargeable aaa’s. Came here to justify my purchase and now I feel even better about it, thanks
I can tell you what was happening to him at 1:50, he was trying to sneeze. He was trying to use looking at light to force a sneeze cause his nose was tingling. He may have photic sneeze reflex like I do, which means heavy eye stimulation triggers sneezing. It's actually quite useful when you feel the need to sneeze.
Ah man light sneezes are the best
i have the same thing!
What kind of rechargable battery test doesnt include panasonic eneloop batteries, but includes dee lee pow?
A test that only tests dee lee pow lol
Never even hear of Panasonic eneloop ebr
Lower capacity batteries are often longer lasting in terms of cycles so are useful in some situations like TV remotes.
Doesn't make sense, you don't need more charge cycles if you are not charging them. Better buy cheap or low self discharge like Eneloop.
@@Xrayfk05 except eneloop do a normal version and a high capacity version (pro) for that very reason. The normal ones rated for 2000 cycles, the pros at 500 cycles.
@@EspadaMK I have both of those batteries, I use eneloop's for my VR controllers. They are at 1.4v when they come off my charger and maintain the voltage for longer, they don't suffer droop like other batteries.
It's the same with 18650's as well, I have high and low capacity and the largest, and most expensive, show significant degradation after 500-800 cycles as well.
To promote battery lifespan and reduce the risk of handheld napalm fans, rechargeable batteries have battery management systems (BMS). These are what control the charge/discharge rates and levels of the units. That is why the fans just shut off at a certain level instead of fading out. It is also why the operational maths aren't necessarily a direct reflection of mAh. Great job! I appreciate you informing me that I bought crap batteries. :)
Interesting great to know.
Couldn't help but chuckle when I saw the cooked pasta stuck to the wall. I think Tyler is the only real tuber on here. Everyone seems fake or overactive. Tyler is one of us that made it.
Hey Tyler! That weird battery with the USB-C port said 2600 “mWh” or milli-WATT-hours. That, with 1.5 V, equates to 1733.33 mAh.
Great video man!
New Camera? I can't remember your videos being this crisp
I came here to comment the same thing. Glad someone else noticed.
Ya I was about to say mwh and mah are not the same
It's also a Lithium battery.. Not Nimh battery.. That's why the first one fried in the charger! I take it Tyler doesn't read the description on Amazon..
@@Tig3rj Thinking of "the average person", if it looks like a battery it probably charges like a battery. Unknowingly those people create an incendiary device...Who reads chinglese descriptions?
1:47 Looks like Tyler was in recharging mode.
I didn't read all of the comments but the regular Duracell battery is 1.5V and most rechargeable batteries are only 1.2V. Something to think about there. Thanks for doing this test!
Good work. I'm surprised you didn't try Eneloop or Eneloop Pro by Panasonic.
Yes, I noticed that, too. I'm very happy with the Eneloop batteries I've used for the last 10 years. They are 1,900 mAh, and they only take 3 hours to
recharge. I was surprised when Tyler mentioned that he was going to recharge his batteries for 12 hours! That seemed rather excessive to me.
@@jim6214 The estimated 12 hours was for a charge-discharge/test cycle.
I'm so happy that he's gonna do a year of charge/discharges, I figured he was just gonna ignore the longevity aspect. I would've been happy if he'd just ran the first test like 20 times in a row but dayum.
I always get eneloops cause I read somewhere they are the best.
In the Market for a rechargeable, and you TEST is going to determine which one I buy. THANK YOU...very helpful show and test.
I really needed some TylerTube. I was just watching Muta's cat video and was feeling way sad. But who could be sad watching Tyler test random Amazon stuff?
thanks for testing/reviewing!
While you continue testing, could you do a shelf life test on the rechargeable batteries too? We would like to know after you’ve charged them to full capacity and they’ve set on the shelf for say a month, which one loses the most power?
5:40 the usb recharge battery is a lithium battery with a buck converter to drop it to constant 1.5v. when the internal lithium 3.7v battery "dies" gets below it's minimum voltage cutoff the buck converter just shuts off the output.
It really depends on the build quality on the motors in every individual fan
Results also depend on fans motor quality, batteries' voltage (discharge curve - more voltage=more speed) and chemistry (this time there were only NiMH and a single li-ion):
* NiMH usually start at 1.4V then stay at 1.3-1.2V most of the time (fans with them will rotate slower and flashlights will be dimmer). And also since they're working at 1.2-1.3V most of the time - some smart electronics will think that betteries are almost discharged even on full batteries.
* Li-ion batteries (with built in 1.5V regulators and usb chargers) are running at locked 1.5V until they're completely discharged. I find them dangerous to use and even store - electronics inside them is very dumb and li-ion is dangerous when something goes wrong. But when they work they're VERY convenient - as they dont require special chargers and 100% compatible due to 1.5V output. Capacity is kinda meh because of all of the additional electronics in them.
* NiCd - terrible old technology, 1.2V, worse in all possible ways than NiMH.
* NiZn - spicy boys. Fully charged they start from 1.85V, then quickly drop to 1.6-1.7V and only right before full discharge it starts dropping to 1.4-1.5V. That means that fans will spin faster and flashlights shine brighter (but more stress on such dumb components, in rare cases can fry electronics). Smart-ish electronics will believe that battery is almost fully charged even when its almost dead. Some electonics that doesnt like lower NiMH volatges works better with NiZn than on Alkalines (normal batteries). Compared to NiMH their capacity varies depending on use case (can be worse or better).
Hey Tyler, awesome test!
In addition to the life cycle test that you intend to do, could you do a long term test where you charge them, leave them for several months or a year inside a flashlight without turning it on and then testing what capacity they have left after such time and how long they last? Maybe you could leave one unit of each battery inside a flashlight and another unit of each battery in their plastic case without making contact with anything to see if there’s a difference.
I feel like with every rechargeable battery I’ve used, even though I always leave them fully charged, they usually die fairly early/not even hold any charge when I try to use them a few months after charging them.
Rechargeable batteries do die suddenly.
Here is one thing to think about. A different fan was used for each battery, which each could draw different amps. Nothing to noticeable, but maybe enough to effect the results. I wonder what would happen if Duracell and Amazon batteries switched fans, if you would get the same result.
Yeah this was one of the worst tests ive seen on RUclips
The quality control on the fans is important, a slight difference in friction would change the results. Comparing two batteries at a time would mean the fans could also be tested.
The two fans with the closest characteristics could be identified.
Maybe take two makes of batteries at a time and have quarter finals etc
I like the idea of testing several at a time, but there are a number of parameters. Holding a charge over time, say a week, a month, three months ..
Lots of videos possible !
I've been off grid for many, many years and used a lot of different types of rechargeable batteries and I used to use rayovac and Energizer batteries but when I started using the thunderbolt rechargeable batteries they seam to last longer than the more expensive ones and also lasted longer in years of charging them.
It has been one year. Any ETA on an update? Making a big purchase soon. Would love to hear your results
Omg thank you! I asked for this video back when you tested the best normal batteries months ago. It was well liked. I'm glad you actually did this!
Eneloop batts are great. They may not have the best capacity, but they always have great self discharge specs and maximum charge cycles. Amazon basics that I used in 2017 had a limited service life. I used AA Eneloops extensively in my job. Eneloops sold in N. America are made in Japan.
The lower output batteries are often cheaper. Both of those popular brands make bigger capacity batteries for more money.
Amazon Basics tend to be rebranded Eneloop. The higher capacity NiMh batteries are usually a little thicker than standard capacity and don't fit in all devices that alkaline will fit into.
Air draft on both sides of fans that are standing in the middle of the row helps them to preserve energy. Fans that are on edgeds have that kind of helpful stream of airflow present only on one side. Maybe that contributed to the struggles of fan #1 and to the success of the Amazon battery.
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EBL barely holds a charge over time either. A note here, you can just about tell the capacity of a cell by weight in grams. The heavier the more output.
The USB chargeable ones are actually 3.7 lithium Ion cells, regulated down to 1.5 volts.
3:09 there’s always some sound coming from somewhere in his videos lol and his reactions to it is just priceless lol
Something to also think about is longevity. How many charges and discharges can each brand do?
Tyler I've probably seen every single video you've uploaded and I've been watching for the past 4 years thank you for everything you do.
Tyler can you make a video with summer time water guns/items
How are you going to do a recharge test and not included enoloop
I've been using various rechargeable AA batteries for a 8 or 10 years now and while I bought some Duracell and Energizer here and there I've gone mainly with Power Owl after finding the Amazon ones occasionally slightly out of spec (short) in size causing the odd one here and there to not fit in all my AA needing devices which I put down to quality control at the source. I've seen reports of similar quality control issues with Power Owl in size but haven't had any trouble with the several orders I've placed in the last couple years.
Tyler’s brain rebooting killed me lmao
This test is probably one of your absolute best this year. Seems completely serious and a test you can actually benefit from, even in Sweden, where I am.
Thanks!
Great job! Confirms Power Farm's videos from years ago. Thanks!
You need to test them 3 times recharge then do it over ...need more data
it is almost time
No tenergy or eneloop....c'mon man, get it together.
I love the battery testing videos! 😀👍
I have been waiting for this video since the non rechargeable battery video. I went out and bought Thunderbolt Edge batteries after that and they work like a dream. It was the first time I'd ever gone into a Harbor Freight store too.
Should have thrown Eneloops in, they're one of the most popular rechargable batteries.
It would be awesome if u also included the panasonic and sony batteries
Very good vide by the way❤
Loved your video. The way you broke it down was awesome! You helped me buy the best batteries for my Oculus controllers ❤
Tyler I want to say I really appreciate your channel You put in a lot of work that a lot of us aren't willing to do and nobody's paying you to do this at least amazon's not paying you or duracell is not paying you... It's like a consumer report.... If we had videos like this in the eighties and nihe's that we're easily accessible there would be a lot of products that just never made it as far as they did because people would be able to give their honest opinions... I'm glad that crap products get called out... If you're gonna make something crappy be honest about it a lot of people are still probably going to buy it... Or make something not crappy.... But yes a lot of people are gonna run out and buy the drill driver that's only thirty bucks because they have three projects they need to get done and they don't need to spend two hundred and fifty dollars on a drill....
For NiMH, the rechargeables that get a lot of press are the ENELOOP brand. I have more recently been getting good value from some LiION rechargeable AAs.
This is one of the best tests you’ve done so far
You left out the best rechargeable AA Eneloop.
You’re testing batteries in your garage and I’m watching it, says a lot about both of us!
The USB C prot battery is a lithium battery dressed up as a AA battery, they sound good but because of the added voltage stuff in it the capacity sucks pretty hard and they waste a LOT of power in the conversion from 3.7V to 1.5V. they also only tend to last a handful of recharge discharge cycles before they clap out.
Yea, when I saw that it only lasted a couple hours and went from going strong to an immediate stop. I knew it was a lithium battery.
YOU CAN BUY 14500 BATTERIES WHICH ARE BASICALLY AA BATTERIES , but run at 3.2 to 3.7 volts like an 18650. that way you dont lose battery capacity on extra electronics to downgrade the voltage to 1.5. Then they sell dummy batteries , so if your flashlight usually uses 2 aa's, use 1 x 14500 and a dummy and you'll get a slightly brighter beam and long lasting. just charge them in a li-ion charger
I would buy Amazon basics. However there is one more test, which is consistency. Will another battery from the same pack perform the same or are there inconsistencies?
Tyler: "Starts an episode about batteries:
Also Tyler: "Tells us the second part will be in about a year or so"
What you are doing is getting old...
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I would love to see a test with remote control cars or flying toys because all the stuff I buy for my grandkids seems to run out of battery life in 15 minutes or even less. I think it's really kind of creepy but I was just about to shop for a new battery charger because my Energizer 15-minute charger seems to have quit working on me and the algorithm talk to your video up. At any rate you have a new subscriber!
Great videos as always
I bet the Amazon item suggestion on what you might like to purchase is just.... amazing. LOL
Especially after the love hammer
This is perfect for me. I’ve been considering switching to rechargeables as I use about 6 per month at work.
I got the EBL’s. I got 8 AA and 8 AAA for like $40 and couldn’t be happier with them!
I would recommend going off percentages instead of the milamps.
For the charge and discharge. I'd also suggest getting those solar puck lights and throw them outside. It'll drain and recharge and show how the weather treats the batteries.
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Are you sure that oddball battery with the USB-C charging isn't a lithium type? I don't recall seeing a NiMh battery with that charging port.
This was good. Thank you.
I think a power bank episode would be cool like which has most capacity and which is more durable
not trying to defend trash where the label applies, but the usb charge one was 1.5v, while the others were 1.2v batteries. in some devices it matters, in the vast majority of devices it doesn't though. just pointing that out as a downfall of rechargeable batteries are typically 1.2v. great video as always tyler :D
Brilliant Test Results. I love the Fan speed. I could almost feel the breeze from my Laptop.... Lol. But I am glad I have bought PowerCell ones as they seem to be quite good in your test. Nice work Tyler. We look forward to seeing you in 2025 with the ultimate discharge/recharge cycle.
Hey thanks for the video! Good stuff here. I just have a couple notes on your test method. In terms of the fans you used, they are all the same which is good but there could be different motor resistance inside each, causing different batteries to have different loading. Also, the pitch of the foam blades may not be the same on each because of the flexible foam. That would also cause different loading on each battery. Lastly, the two fans at the ends, experience different aerodynamic loading due to the Coanda effect. Essentially the two fans at the ends experience a higher load, which may be why the Duracel didnt last as long, despite having a larger capacity.
One last note, each battery chemistry has a certain discharge capability. That might be why some of them have lower capacity while being the same size. I think I read somewhere that capacity is inversely related to discharge rating.
hi sinisterblack have you become a flat earther yet?
Could put fans in a circle.
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Tyler would love to see you test elite tac flashlight. I see the commercial flooding my ads all the time. Your the goat for product tests
It stopped instantly because thats a lithium and its to protect it from overdischarging.
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Yo! T! What up? I did the per second cost equation for you on the top three batteries. Rounding off to the first four digits, here are the results.
Duracell costs .0098 cents per second.
Amazon basics costs .0067 cents per second.
And the winner : Power owl costs .0048 cents per second.
Although those results do stand on their own, I do have a follow up question. What are the individual chemical metal make ups of each individual battery?
Never in my life time did I think I would be a dedicated fan to a RUclipsr who compares batteries and reviews toasters.
Want to see this with eneloop and eneloop pro!
Great job! Thanks for doing all that legwork
I actually use the ebl, and they are incredibly durable. Been charging and recharging then for over a year. Well worth the money. And they have decent capacity, but it's not a big deal anyways, since you can just get a bunch of batteries, and charge them all up, and your good to go. The reason why i mental durability, is because they won't last forever, eventually they will stop working. So you have to check how many charges they are good for. So i know the ebl will work great
Each individual battery's capacity could vary a bit. In a test like you did with the fans, 50mAh-s or so counts quite a bit. If you didn't use the exact same batteries wich you tested previously for capacity, maybe that's why the Duracell died before the amazon basics. It could be from a slighty worse batch, or the Amazon basics could be from a slightly better.
You need to do each test multiple times. There will be variances. Then figure the statistics of the tests.
The endurance test with the fans is neglecting the variances in the fans themselves. I'd switch the batteries in the last two fans and run the test again (multiple times).
Yeah, I know, it would be very time consuming.
hi rogue have you become a flat earther yet?
You should test pale blue batterys
I was just about to go buy a new set of rechargeable batteries. Who knew the perfect video would just appear!
It's possible that manufacturing inconsistencies in the fans is what made the Amazon and Duracell batteries to switch places.
07:26 its the Internal Resistance that affects them
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I love your videos for many reasons but one of the main reasons is you are doing these tests because you genuinely have no idea what the results will be and want to find out yourself. Me (and all the viewers) love seeing your reactions. This channel is so great simply because it is your average Joe(Tyler in this case) testing things. Keep doing what you're and please never change. Hands down favourite channel
I’ve had my same reachable energizer batteries for over 6 yrs and I’ve never had to replace them. They are the best 🛑 also I game most days with the Xbox. So yes they are very good
I want to buy Energizer for my xbox controller, are they good?