Banjo Tailpieces: Learn How They Impact Sound & Playability!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @rjwh67220
    @rjwh67220 9 месяцев назад +4

    Great tips! I now know about 200% more about bridges than I did before.

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  9 месяцев назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @independentmind1977
    @independentmind1977 Год назад +10

    On my Epiphone (beginner openback, B100) i swapped out the light stamped tailpiece it came with for a Pisgah Hawktail and it transformed the sound completely (it's rounder now, not as shrill.) I also prefer to have my tailpiece floating. Remember if you buy a new tailpiece you can always carry it to your next instrument, so it's a good investment.

    • @AndyPlayedGuitar
      @AndyPlayedGuitar 11 месяцев назад +1

      Well that's exciting to hear as I've got an MB100 too! Will have to treat myself and experiment

  • @barrysmith8193
    @barrysmith8193 2 года назад +3

    An update on getting the correct tailpiece/string angle………. Just got done bringing my banjo up to optimum playability and this was my final step. Per Deering specs my tailpiece is tight to the tone ring and with your information my string angle is now at 16 degrees. With new premium strings and fully drum dialed head I’m good to go. Love the sound and ease of playing. Thanks your your great posting on this. It just goes to show that your information does make a difference in others lives. Many thanks from a 75 year old left handed picker.

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад

      that is fantastic to hear! thank you for letting me know!

  • @robertmoriarty925
    @robertmoriarty925 2 года назад +7

    Very helpful. I set up my guitars, but just started banjo and wanted to get the best sound out of my inexpensive Epiphone. I never gave much thought to the tailpiece. I just thought it was decoration.
    But this makes perfect sense.
    Thank you!

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +1

      Glad I could help!

    • @independentmind1977
      @independentmind1977 Год назад +1

      Hey! I bet we have the same banjo. Epiphone mb100?

    • @AndyPlayedGuitar
      @AndyPlayedGuitar 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@independentmind1977that's the one I went for, they've stopped making banjos which is a shame but I love my Epi!

  • @moonshinerphd9523
    @moonshinerphd9523 8 месяцев назад +2

    I like the no-knot tailpieces, they look so much better, imo. I took the long tailpiece off my banjo and replaced it with a no-knot along with a fiberskyn head, to me it sounds much better.

  • @Johno143
    @Johno143 Год назад +2

    That's exactly what I needed to know 👍.
    Thanks mate, from across the big pond 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @ianxl48
    @ianxl48 11 месяцев назад +2

    Very clearly explained! - Thank you for this. 😎 👌‍

  • @ouchboy-bs6ri
    @ouchboy-bs6ri Год назад +1

    good information and demonstration!
    txs for posting

  • @zenjazzplayer
    @zenjazzplayer 24 дня назад

    I've watched several of your videos. They are great! I will watch more. How do I measure the string angle and make sure it's 16 degrees?

  • @roberthutchinson-q9n
    @roberthutchinson-q9n Год назад +1

    How do I measure a 16 degree angle break? Is there a tool to measure and set 16 degrees?

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  Год назад +1

      Yes there is a inexpensive plastic angle finder at lowes that works wonders

    • @SpringfieldGuy
      @SpringfieldGuy 7 месяцев назад

      @@BanjoAddict Link?

  • @sojnab1
    @sojnab1 Год назад +1

    Great job just what i needed to see

  • @JohnSims3
    @JohnSims3 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video! Great info! I also have a Fender FB300 that I'm just now learning to play. Even though it's a cheap beginner banjo which I got for almost nothing and repaired, I upgraded the stock tailpiece to a Waverly and added a DAM bridge. It sounds pretty good for a bottlecap! Hey, if String Bean can play a bottlecap, so can I! Thanks for all of your great videos!

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  Год назад +1

      you are welcome! and thanks for watching

  • @strafto04
    @strafto04 Год назад +1

    Nice, informative video, thanks. I had a question about the device right next to the 5th string tuner…it looks like a tiny nail head; how high should that be off the fretboard? And, what is it called? Any help is appreciated, thank you!

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  Год назад

      It’s called railroad spikes . It’s for capo in the fifth string.. I would recommend taking it to a luthier to have it installed

  • @bjwmorgan
    @bjwmorgan Год назад +2

    What tool do you use to get the 16 degree angle

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  Год назад +2

      I personally just use one of those cheap plastic angle finders you can get at lowes or Home Depot

    • @bjwmorgan
      @bjwmorgan Год назад

      Oh ok thanks

    • @cindynipper
      @cindynipper Год назад

      This was my question too. I'm experienced enough to estimate something is sitting at a 90⁰ or 45⁰ angle but 16⁰? I was like, "that's an awfully specific number, to eye ball it"! Thanks for asking this!!

    • @ErickvdK
      @ErickvdK Год назад

      Take a piece of cardboard, carefully plot your 16 degree angle, cut it out as precisely as possible. Keep the hollow portion, place it on top of your bridge. The string angle should match the cardboard angle.😊

  • @louGriggs1944
    @louGriggs1944 2 года назад +1

    Very informative and useful. Thank you.

  • @Steve-jf3hf
    @Steve-jf3hf 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for that Sandy, really interesting and informative.
    I always wondered about the tailpiece setup, I've got an entry level banjo (Washburn b-9), and was always wondering why the tailpiece is set really close to the banjo head, like a cigarette paper width away, I'll be having a look at the angle of the strings now, to see if it's close to the 15/16 degrees. Cheers :0)

  • @EdouardDisk
    @EdouardDisk 2 года назад +4

    When I heard the accent I knew it was a good video

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +2

      Ha ha! Sometimes it helps! Thank you for watching

  • @Gonefishing185
    @Gonefishing185 2 года назад +3

    I just tried a gold tone terminator tailpiece, loved it so I bought one for my 90s made in Korea Vega (mine had rusted and broken years ago). I’ve been getting by with a “stubby” short almost nothing tailpiece for years, not knowing that it’s not good for 3 finger style, allow me tell you why. The string tension the tailpiece provides is not only securing the bridge against the head of the banjo, but that string tension also very much affects the playability of the banjo. Not having enough tension is similar to trying to run in place on a trampoline, it doesn’t go well! Efficient transfer of picking power from your pick into the string requires tension that the tailpiece provides.

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +1

      Awesome! I need to look into those.

    • @davidcudlip6587
      @davidcudlip6587 Год назад +1

      I use Terminator tailpieces on my banjos, too. I float them about a popsicle stick thickness above the tension hoop and angle the front edge of the tailpiece slightly down from level. I use Purcell hard maple bridges (From and old factory floor) and phosphor bronze strings. I tighten the head to 89 on my Drum Dial. These banjos really bark when you dig in with your picks.

  • @1920sman
    @1920sman 2 года назад +1

    Nice video, thank you - really well explained.
    However as a tenor, plectrum and classic (both regular and zither) banjoist I'd add that the tenor and plectrum use more tension not so much to prevent the bridge moving around, but because of both the sound desired and the projection required for the location where these instruments are mostly played - and that is as part of a band / orchestra with other reasonably loud instruments such as trumpets, trombones and saxophones (often as one of a dozen or more other musicians). This is also why innovations such as metal strings and resonators arose or at least caught on. The set ups used for four string players in this era and often still today (there are still plenty of 4 string players around) were also really popular for soloists in vaudeville (often also accompanied by an orchestra) so volume and projection were again all important. Although classic banjo players such as Vess Ossman and Fred van Eps etc. managed well with gut strings and open back instruments. Relatively speaking the music of Jazz Age of the 1910s - early 1930s was much louder than most of what had come before. (Although the Swing which followed on on was even louder with even bigger bands - but banjo featured much less in this era). In a dance band or jazz band the role of the banjo in this era / style is to give a rhythmic drive as well as laying down the harmonies - something that in more modern styled jazz bands is usually done far more by the drums than by a banjo, but the ability to be heard both in volume and tone amidst the band (even when playing at a soft dynamic) was and is really important. In other styles such as Bluegrass, the banjo is usually playing with other instruments that have a relatively similar volume range, so issues such as projection although an important consideration, are not quite so pertinent.

  • @jackbaumun1605
    @jackbaumun1605 2 месяца назад +1

    How do I measure 16 degrees on my washburn banjo ?

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 месяца назад

      i use a cheap plastic angle finder from lowes

  • @markusbartell9611
    @markusbartell9611 2 года назад +3

    Awesome video. I'm learning about tailpieces now. I have a Fender FB300 that I'm learning to play on . Just a cheap beginner banjo , but recently upgraded from the stock tailpiece to an old style Waverly tailpiece at the recommendation from Ross Nickerson . Man what a difference it makes in tone and volume! I'm fine tuning now with reference to angle. I do have a question about adjusting it. Should I have the strings loose when turning the adjustment screw(then re tuning) or can it be done under pressure? Thanks for posting these great videos . They are always very informative and helpful
    P. S....love the new merch you are offering now

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +1

      Adjust it while there is preasure on the strings so you can get the correct string break angle

    • @markusbartell9611
      @markusbartell9611 2 года назад

      @@BanjoAddict okay, cool. Thank you for the advice

    • @markusbartell9611
      @markusbartell9611 2 года назад +1

      @@BanjoAddict Also, how do you go about measuring or checking the angle?

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +1

      @@markusbartell9611 i use a StewMac Angle Gauge but you can find similar cheaper versions at lowes. search angle guage and it should lead you in the right direction

    • @markusbartell9611
      @markusbartell9611 2 года назад

      @@BanjoAddict awesome. Thank you!

  • @spook8689
    @spook8689 2 года назад +1

    awesome content man

  • @PeteHarperUK
    @PeteHarperUK 2 года назад +1

    Hi I like your videos, my banjo arrived I tuned it up OK but I noticed the tail is crooked oneside flush the other side has a 1/4" gap how do I reset it I'm a novice lol🇬🇧

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +1

      there should be a nut or screw on the back side of the tail piece that you can loosen and adjust your tail piece. just be careful to not loosen it too much or it will pop off. tail pieces are usually a tension fit, meaning the tension of the strings keeps them in place. so i would recommend loosening your strings before adjusting the tail piece

    • @PeteHarperUK
      @PeteHarperUK 2 года назад +1

      @@BanjoAddict thanks for the information I will take it into our local guitar shop for a set up be safer

    • @PeteHarperUK
      @PeteHarperUK 2 года назад

      @@BanjoAddict thanks appreciated 👍👍

  • @Greghc48
    @Greghc48 2 года назад +1

    Great info… thank you.

  • @daveduncan8004
    @daveduncan8004 Год назад +1

    That screw this in the back of the table base that adjusters upper down and so that needs to be 16°. I have a Sterling staghorn and that screws loose. I tighten it up but I really don’t know what I’m doing and that.

  • @johnschillo4452
    @johnschillo4452 Год назад +1

    this was helpful

  • @markosterman419
    @markosterman419 Год назад +1

    Was hoping you were going to actually show the evolution of the banjo tail piece.

  • @mandolinman2006
    @mandolinman2006 2 года назад +1

    I have a question. I have a banjo that sounds amazing up the neck but, toward the nut, sounds kind of thin and plunky. How can I get a bit more volume and a fuller tone toward the nut?

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +1

      the easiest way is with new strings. Maybe change the gauge. if you are using light strings go to a medium or heavy gauge. if it has been a while since you have changed them i would start there. but if the strings are fairly new i would try upgrading the bridge. I would recommend the snuffy smith bridge from Kats eyz banjo bridges. especially the one with the pegged top. they are a little costly but definitely worth the upgrade.

    • @mandolinman2006
      @mandolinman2006 2 года назад

      @@BanjoAddict I usually run light strings. I've never liked heavier than that. I did upgrade to a Kat Eyz bridge. They're amazing. When I changed the bridge, I did change out the head and strings. That was not too long ago.

    • @davidcudlip6587
      @davidcudlip6587 Год назад

      @@mandolinman2006 If your banjo didn't come with a bone nut, I would replace it with one. Superior in tone then plastic.

    • @mandolinman2006
      @mandolinman2006 Год назад

      @@davidcudlip6587 it did.

    • @luminawarren8132
      @luminawarren8132 Год назад

      Head needs to be tightened to at or around 93 on the drum dial. The ring wont perform as far as volume and tone are concerned till you get there.

  • @banjomark9900
    @banjomark9900 2 года назад +1

    Great information. Thanks for sharing. My bridge has a slanted side and a straight side. Which side should face the tailpiece?

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +2

      if i understand you correctly i believe the strait side goes toward the tailpiece. slanted toward the neck. also if the bridge has the company logo on it it should face the neck as well most of the time.

    • @banjomark9900
      @banjomark9900 2 года назад

      @@BanjoAddict
      That answers my question exactly!
      Thank you

  • @066motocross
    @066motocross Год назад

    I'm just starting to learn banjo and I do have a question about the tailpiece. My tailpiece looks very similar to yours if not exactly the same and I understand what you said about the screw in the back adjusting the angle of the strings but can you please tell me what those 2 Phillips head screws do on each side? Looks kinda like a hinge? Thanks so much for your videos and I hope you can explain that to me 😊

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  Год назад

      I believe what you are talking about is just a pivot point on the tailpiece

  • @faelwolf1177
    @faelwolf1177 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for this. I have a beautiful banjo that sounds good, but could be better. (Pre-Fender Tacoma) They used a tailpiece that seems a bit on the light side, and I'm looking to replace it with a better one, and along with that, want to dial in the best tone I can get. So many arguments over break angle, tailpiece style, etc. on the forums, and no one seems to want to just give the numbers for a starting point!

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +1

      The higher break angle seems to give a better tone. But anything over 16 degrees seems to put too much pressure on the bridge. I have split bridges at 18 degree.

  • @josephanderson7237
    @josephanderson7237 5 дней назад

    Look at Siminoff(?) articles in BNL. Did a pretty rigorous analysis of tail.

  • @banjofett3949
    @banjofett3949 2 года назад +1

    My tailpiece is not really aligned, the 1st string sits too close to the edge of the fretboard. I could compensate this by moving the tailpiece to the left, but i’m afraid it makes the tailpiece rod in the back look very crooked. I’m using a golden gate gb1 bridge in 1/2 height. Any advice? Thanks!

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +2

      It sounds to me like it’s more in the bridge. I have had to in the past slide my bridge right or left to align the strings on the neck.

    • @banjofett3949
      @banjofett3949 2 года назад +1

      @@BanjoAddict i tried, but the strings are so tight collectively that they wont let my bridge shimmy to either side. Is it better to cut a new slot for the 1st string slightly closer to the 2nd? Thanks for your response!

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад +1

      @@banjofett3949 No don’t cut a slot. Just loosen the strings with your tuning pegs, slide your bridge over , then retune your strings back up.

    • @banjofett3949
      @banjofett3949 2 года назад

      @@BanjoAddict hey friend, quick update- I changed the bridge to a 5/8 and this works out better for me. I watched your video on the coordinator rod to adjust the action to make it lower. It helped out:)

  • @1bigapple2
    @1bigapple2 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is one of the best things about the banjo - there is NO best universal setup formula! We all find our own best. I recently acquired a new Waldeman banjo that has a tailpiece set up unlike any I’ve seen before in as much as it’s made out of wood is totally floating with no adjustment screws and is about 2 1/2 inches long. This sort of contradicts everything that’s being said here for best tone. Of my 12 banjos differing setups, this is probably the best sounding one of all. My next best sounding banjo is a 1927 VEGA with a ridgid tailpiece very similar to the one being shown. Totally different, yet sounds just as good with strengths in different acoustic output ranges. Long story short, experiment.

  • @WorshipGuitarist4life17
    @WorshipGuitarist4life17 2 месяца назад +1

    1:21 words you never hear from a RUclipsr 😂😂

  • @matthewcarroll733
    @matthewcarroll733 Год назад +1

    The issue I have with my banjo (Ibanez b50) the low D string sounds just dead no real ring to it how do I get some life into said string, the other strings sound fabulous

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  Год назад

      have you changed your strings recently? that string could just be dead.

  • @OtterLakeFlutes
    @OtterLakeFlutes 2 года назад +1

    Darned if that doesn't look like a Recording King RKO-3S... there are different "Dirty 30's" and I only had $253 max to spend (and I mean anytime soon whatsoever) but I also wanted at least 1-1/4" nut width. So... even though the RKOH-06 was on sale 33% off for only $200 (!) with more brackets, a tailpiece, and a rolled brass tone ring.... but I know it has a 1-3/16" nut. I "traded" all that and a bit more cash to milk that last 1/16" because the RKO-3S says at Guitar Center and Musicians Friend it has a 1-1/4" nut. I just hope it's not some weird typo both places copied and pasted from somewhere, because RK doesn't say what the nut width is on the 3S, and when they don't say it's usually 1-3/16. I'll be so let down if it shows up 1-3/16. I'll be playing this a couple years and I want 1-1/4", lol.

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад

      I Liked the rko 3s .. was a really good banjo. i never measured the nut though. lol

  • @markzinghini2306
    @markzinghini2306 Год назад +1

    Why are my strings touching the banjo head just below the tailpiece

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  Год назад

      the only reason that would happen that i know of is the strings are wrapped around the tailpiece wrong

    • @bobcushman6194
      @bobcushman6194 Год назад

      @@BanjoAddict Also possible that the head has the wrong “crown” height, so the tension hoop sits too low, making the tailpiece sit too low.

  • @luminawarren8132
    @luminawarren8132 Год назад +1

    Yes super impt Scott Zimmerman says it doesnt matter but it does matter will either kill a banjos tone or improve it.

  • @barrysmith8193
    @barrysmith8193 2 года назад +2

    This is all good information however how do you see us calculating the 16 degrees? Is it 16 degrees from a level plane across the top of the bridge, or the head, or off the true vertical of the head surface, or…….. ? Please show in a graphic representation of what you are verbally telling us. Thank you.

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  2 года назад

      Hey Barry, I personally use a cheap plastic angle finder that i got from lowes. I just lay it on top of the 1st and forth string for reference. i will try to get a picture up on the community tab here soon to show what im talking about.

    • @barrysmith8193
      @barrysmith8193 2 года назад

      Thanks for this info. With this key starting point the determine of the angle now makes sense.

  • @josie50000
    @josie50000 3 месяца назад +1

    Oh i feel so dumb. Im so new to banjo that everything everyone says sounds spanish... and i dont speak spanish.... everything you said sounds simple.. but my brain just isnt grasping what i need to do. My 1st string is buzzing (open and fretted) and my banjo sounds like its screaming when i play. I genuinely thought my neighbours were screaming at me through the wall. Can you please help me pin point what exactly i need to do to sort these issues ... mainly cos im terrified of making things worse. And i simply cant afford to pay someone to fix it if i bugger it up. If you can help in any way id be so grateful. I just want to learn to play rn and i feel i might be learning bad tone listening behaviour if its not right. Sorry for the essay btw. I need a banjo maintenance for dummies book. 😂

    • @BanjoAddict
      @BanjoAddict  3 месяца назад

      The first string buzz sounds like a trust rod issue. Watch the video on my page about how to adjust your truss rod. The truss rod adjust the bow in the neck. If the bow isn’t enough, the strings will buzz on the fretts. If the bone was too much, it’ll make the neck hard to fret in the middle.