iRacing Rain Might Change Simracing Future
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- After 16 Years we finally have rain in iRacing. How good it is?
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I've never tried iracing, but from a viewer, I do like watching the racing. Now rain is here, would be great to see you in a weekly championship if you had the time to do so.
Keep up the great work mate. 👍💜🤗
I have those Simagic vibration motors and I can feel the road and the slipping your describing in my pedals
throttle or brake pedal?
@@SpartanA31xxmost likely both
Jardier, great video. Iracing considers maximum realistic wet level the one got with moderate rain. They say that driving with the water level you are there is unrealistic. In official events the maximum wetness will be much lower and realistic.
Apart from that, no way you considet the dry line too forgiving. You have to set track usage to a 90% or 100% level so theres rubber in the line. It is quite slippery 😂😂
God knows how many years they have worked on this rain mod, that looks realy good 👍🏻
One thing I would like is shader for flowing water. I mean for uneven surfaces such as hills and whatnot. It's just a bit unnatural how some of the puddles stick to the surfaces.
However other than that it looks absolutely great.
I think everyone has forgotten about the rain in Project Cars 2. You really had to adjust your lines, hitting a puddle on one wheel could mess you up. Don’t know how realistic it was but it’s a lot more involved than ACC for example.
AMS2 has it too. Puddles there are deadly.
About the racing dry line in the rain. In testdrive you mostly start with a 0% track..so NO marbles on the track....try a fully used track with lots of rubber on the dry line and then rain...its a totally differnet driving
I understand the main focus of this video was on 2 things. How realistic the car handles on a rain saturated track and how that rain saturated track looks. Seems fairly obvious Jardier likes it.
I want to bring attention to the rest of what is seen. Not much obstruction to the driver's view, except for the spray when there is a car in front. At 10:42 freeze frame it and look at how far you can see down that long straight. You can see the end. Jardier said this will be under heavy conditions. The end of that straight should not be visible. The rain is not dulling the view much. Maybe IRacing will address that in the next update.
Thank you for the video Jardier, Enjoyed watching. While I no longer subscribe to iRacing I enjoy watching you & Bobby race there. I may have to give it another go now, looks Fun !
Always appreciate the great videos you make for us. Our team is made up of half ACC & half iRacing so you can imagine our team discord chats lol.
Here’s my feeling, iRacing was able to nail the alternative “wet racing line” whereas ACC is a must to stick on the racing line which isn’t realistic & it’s a great point you made about ACC’s model being from 2018 & iRacing now on 2024 technology so it definitely looks like they really nailed the rain for the most part. They have to fix all the things you mentioned especially the spray & the way the rain falls in only 1 direction & whether your driving 100mph or 5mph the rain fall on windscreen is the same. With a few hotfix should be great.
PS: Can’t wait for AC2
Grip: I think it depends on the track. I also raced NOS. And NOS has the most grip. Sebring and Monza have much less grip.
We had a practice Session in our racing league on Monza yesterday. And as rain began and we were on wets, the car oversteered very much into the cornder as you would expect and sometimes you had a oversteer on corner exit. It was very difficult to drive. So, it depends very on the track how much grip you have. My experiences so far.
iRacing is the only sim, where rain is drivable for me. I don't like rain in ACC, AMS2. In iRacing, Rain is believable, feels like rain, car feels amazing through FFB. And when you drive through puddles, ohh my. I LOVE IT. In every other sim, when raining, you just lose grip, and nothing else changes. For the most part.
iRacing has done an incredible job with their Tempest weather system. But I agree, they have to make two thirds of the spray behind the car more transparent. Example: If the spray is 3 meters long. First meter should maybe stay the same, but the last 2 meters much more transparent. It wouldn't be "more like real life," but it could be the best compromise. Because as Jardier said, in real life your two eyes see more than the camera, even if the camera is in the same position as your eyes.
I tried in VR and you get the track position awareness but still can't see the car in front. The 3d helps.
Jardier last night I watched Emmree race around this track in the medium rain racing and she did a 7.31 in a Porsche it was great to watch.
So how's the Simagic wheel coming along? You seem to be using it a lot? Think you like it enough to try their other stuff?
Puddles looks more realistic with SSR off imo, track doesn't look like a lake and you can see the actual puddle you have to avoid.
Looks great Jards, uphill puddles bit of a no no though. Sure they’ll be able to fix that though 👍👍👍
I feel like I'm driving in the rain through your perspective, amazing.
Greart vid Jard, wouls love to see you more in iracing, I used to join the jarc races all the time buut now i mostly do iracing =)
When you have green track without rubber and rain starts, I hope you can take ideal line on the wet
I did some testing and yes, you can take the ideal line (ofc avoiding puddles), but usually iracing official practice sessions always start with at least 50% rubber simulated anyways
Thank you for your answer@@maciejhyla7503
The wet patches look realistic... great job from iRacing.
"Everything is flat. We have no other option". Oh yes, you do, pancake dudes. VR is the option B).
I think, its Rain 1.0. And its a new standard. They will collect data and oppinions of the drivers in this season. Adn they will improve the rain. Rain 2.0 then will be THE Standard, I'm sure.
One thing they mentioned and is on no. 1 on their list is the rain light in the spray. They will improve it.
As I said, for the rain in 1.0 version its the best out there.
Thanks also to Tony Kanaan who worked together with iRacing.
Perhaps he said in season 4 in 2023, "no, you have to improve the rain, you cannot release it". Who knows.
My college said, that in ACC for example, rain is only graphical and you have less grip. Less grip evereywhere and everywhere the same. Also in ACC when many cars go over the track, always the dry racing line will get more dry,whereever the cars drive. Btw. the cars dont have to race a wet line.
So, iRacing is the closest to realistic what you can get.
And I love it. It is so much fun. When you go with a powerslide out of the corner and can hold it. or when you get a snap and can recover. Its so cool. The tyre model is way better than in dry conditions :)
Dumb question. How do I switch from dry tires to wet mid race? I've only been playing for a 2 months. I just did my first wet race (Ferrari GT3 15 min). When I pitted to switch to wet tires, it said that the tire cannot be changed during the race. So I guess I have to pick wet or dry tires and use that for the entire race? This seems ridiculous. Timing the tire change is all what racing is all about.
Totally need to improve the lights, but in VR the spray is totally usable, you can see the road on the sides…but I can’t speak for the flat screens
Triple setup is the same 👍
Nord is king. btw ty J, one of your vids helped me get my head around ACC setups
iRacing nailed it - this is 100% awesome update 🙌
The clouds could have been better, looks like they're up in space, like a flat image in the sky, I guess it doesn't really matter when you drive
Is IRacing ever going to get a good GT3 lineup like ACC has?
I think the BOP and vehicle choices are so poor I stopped playing after around 7 months..
iRacing has been in a drought until now 😂
Go test the track wetness settings, then you will slide like mad
Seems like too much grip.. very aggressive on throttle and no wheel spin? Look at your video and how gentle you had to be.. still a cool feature though. Alot of spray for a closed wheel car.. as well.
Does the wet line rubber in over time and become slippery as well in real life?
Kunos makes a tiny fraction of the income that iRacing makes. Yet they have developed AC, ACC and AC2. When will iRacing2 come out???
Lol, “the rain is always in the same direction, always coming towards you”, if you are going at 200 km/h in the car, what is the direction you think the rain should come from?
If you watch replay from tv cam you will see rain just turns around with you ;)
The water needs to follow physics and flow toward lower ground. Now it is just painted on.
It’s not painted on. It’s all physicalized. They talk about this in the dev video from iRacing recently.
AMS 2 have had raining for at least 2 years now and its incredibly good. Iracing arrived too late to the party.
How is it comparing to AC's CSP+Pure mod combo?
Visually not as good but with the driving iRacing is a long way ahead
Hey cool T-shirt 😎
ready for nordschleife in ACC ?
One thing to note is that IRacing simulates the rubbering of the track over the course of the race, so during the start of a session when the track is green the racing line wont be rubbered and you'll have the same amount of grip as taking the wet line.
I was on one of the voice channels with iRacing staff. They made some conflicting statements about the state of the track at the start of the session, when people were asking different scenarios. Finally, they said there will be official FAQ released.
Why can't they get the dry racing right, it's dreadful ?
In real life you see much better trough spray. They show this spot on but the thing is this is displayed on the screen so your eyes can just see what's on the screen, theres no depth to it
Bro waited 16 years 😂
How about puddles when hills go up or down? 🤷🏻♂️ all over the place when tracks rises puddles are there. So not realistic
what I would like to see is real-world pictures of the track in heavy rain.
@@Ramocolypse i can tell you from my experience: there are not that much puddles on the nordschleife in real life. I guess the track ingame is sooooo old, must be more than 10 years. But last year, i raced in havy rain, there were nearly no puddles. Also I see in iRacing, in nearly every corner, there is a puddle at the apex. Its not like this in real life, also the racing line is much more slippier in real than in the game. But the game is still amazing.
That is a wet level which we wont race in official races because a red flag would have beeen shown way before. IRacing confirmed this. If you set moderate rain there is a really realistic amount of water. Remember Nurburgring 2007 F1, how turn 1 was.
AC2