Turbocharging a Lada with a starter motor

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  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 2 года назад +666

    Man. I can't get enough about this channel. Every time I open the channel, there is an amazing video. Keep up the amazing work guys! And thanks to BMI for translating too!

    • @Shelboooooo
      @Shelboooooo 2 года назад +9

      Easily the best automotive channel on RUclips. It is all about theory and execution and is amazing. Great for people troubleshooting automotive ideas as well.

    • @Akshay_Bhavekar
      @Akshay_Bhavekar 2 года назад +2

      @@Shelboooooo Agree 💯🔥

    • @A_Maggot
      @A_Maggot 2 года назад +1

      i like their tinkering, but the voice over just annoys me.

    • @engenhokas69
      @engenhokas69 2 года назад +2

      @@A_Maggot at the biguinning yes, but o lowerewd the volume a bit and now i got used to the voice, i identify it to the channel, if it changed it'd be weird ahah

    • @Shelboooooo
      @Shelboooooo 2 года назад

      @@A_Maggot better then no voice over.

  • @vmm_repairs
    @vmm_repairs 2 года назад +37

    What you actually did was a centrifugal supercharger

    • @Stormythecat1213
      @Stormythecat1213 2 месяца назад +1

      My dad's old dump truck has something similar to this

  • @Mauritius200
    @Mauritius200 2 года назад +1295

    You could install a microswitch at the throttlebody or below the gas pedal so that the contraption only begins to spin once full throttle is applied. Might hook up an additional fuel pump to the same circuit, that squirts some more gasoline into the intake at the same moment.

    • @francoisfigeac4942
      @francoisfigeac4942 2 года назад +94

      Was thinking the same or try different size pulleys to make more rpms at the turbo

    • @livinonlimiter
      @livinonlimiter 2 года назад +44

      Why does all of this remind me of nitrous lol

    • @francoisfigeac4942
      @francoisfigeac4942 2 года назад +9

      lol right but ware is the fun in that. I have a peddle car in my head after they made one. I want to make one just to take my kids to school. Now I'm thinking I could use a starter to help go over bumps or for reverse.

    • @Zantrop64
      @Zantrop64 2 года назад +43

      with a potentiometer, they could even tune the boost map very precisely

    • @Athiril
      @Athiril 2 года назад +9

      I’m actually curious about this kind of thing at lower rpm on cruise control on a highway, seeing if it reduces pumping losses more than the energy it consumes

  • @superhawk20002
    @superhawk20002 2 года назад +106

    Your laughter and the way everyone smiles... is how I can tell how successful your ideas are. I couldn't help but laugh along with you guys. Wish I could drive the car. This was a good one. Thank you.

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue 10 месяцев назад +2

      he converted a turbo charger into a super charger🤣🤣🤣

    • @badsneeze
      @badsneeze Месяц назад

      @@SaraMorgan-ym6uegood job captain obvious

  • @simont9984
    @simont9984 2 года назад +316

    You should use a treadmill motor. They are strong, run on dc power and can run continuously. You will have to use a voltage step up circuit though so that you can power it off of the 12v car power.

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 2 года назад +32

      That would be too complicated and expensive. The obvious solution would be a lawn mower engine to run the blower. Or... use a leaf blower!

    • @pflaffik
      @pflaffik 2 года назад +3

      Need an inverter, and when you’re already on AC motors there are lots of cheap alternatives that still need the expensive inverter.

    • @STAY-GOLD-VINYL
      @STAY-GOLD-VINYL 2 года назад +3

      @@johncoops6897 really? Lol 😆

    • @TheLionAndTheLamb777
      @TheLionAndTheLamb777 2 года назад +7

      @@STAY-GOLD-VINYL I've seen it done on Roadkill with the Leaf Blower Monza. They also have a boost caboose episode.

    • @simont9984
      @simont9984 2 года назад +2

      @@pflaffik isn't the starter motor he was using DC? The car already has an inverter from AC to DC. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean though about using AC motors?

  • @EvelynnTheBorderCollie
    @EvelynnTheBorderCollie Год назад +109

    This guy is one of the best mechanics ive ever seen. My father can do this kind of stuff. I have 50% of his genetics. But... Thats not enough to know 50% of what he knows. Its crazy. Wish I could travel and learn from this guy.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад +5

      let's make an electric turbocharger for our car I love it🤣

    • @icyclaw13
      @icyclaw13 9 месяцев назад +1

      You really think thats his ideas? Hes only doing what people ask todo. He got bunch of mechanics that they do all the work for him.
      If people ask and there is vision of money, they will do it.

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@raven4k998They are making electric turbos now days.

  • @thebguy5508
    @thebguy5508 2 года назад +541

    You should use another smaller internal combustion engine to power the turbine. Like from chainsaw or something like that...

    • @Mastermindyoung14
      @Mastermindyoung14 2 года назад +167

      You've invented the leaf blower

    • @jokeletsplay
      @jokeletsplay 2 года назад +52

      @@Mastermindyoung14have them use a leafblower as a turbo...

    • @rupe53
      @rupe53 2 года назад +39

      @@jokeletsplay ... I believe Mythbusters already did that.

    • @Mk3Salty
      @Mk3Salty 2 года назад +11

      @@rupe53 itsjustasix did that on a tacoma too

    • @Setsuna_Kyoura
      @Setsuna_Kyoura 2 года назад +13

      @@jokeletsplay Roadkill did it too and it definitely works.

  • @alasdair4161
    @alasdair4161 2 года назад +24

    Great video again. For a better motor alternative you should try a brushless inrunner motor and ESC from a scooter. They can sustain more power and RPM than the old shunt wound starter motor (2kW+), and as long as you supply power, the motor will run. Being 0-5V control you can easily modulate the boost, even make a simple feedback circuit
    to regulate the boost value with a pressure sensor, that way it will work like an electronic waste gate with perfect efficiency, and you could slave it to the accelerator pedal... it would make a great ride, you may want to go 24, 36 or 48V to get maximum advantage.
    Cheers.

    • @sirishwark
      @sirishwark 2 года назад

      Can you please draw a diagram with the components you mentioned?

    • @timothybayliss6680
      @timothybayliss6680 9 месяцев назад

      They might sustain more continuous current but the intermittent current wont be all that different. Starters routinely pull more than 100a for something like a Lada in summer and probably close to 200a in winter. If you fed this starter 24v it would quadruple the output.

  • @brunoseabra8089
    @brunoseabra8089 2 года назад +204

    please make a 0-60 mph test with and without the turbo this is just so cool hahaha

    • @Sekir80
      @Sekir80 2 года назад +37

      60 mph in a Lada? Aren't you a bit too optimistic? :D

    • @brunoseabra8089
      @brunoseabra8089 2 года назад +8

      @@Sekir80 hahaha good one

    • @MyKonaRC
      @MyKonaRC 2 года назад +26

      @@Sekir80 They said in the video they hit 92km/h in second. 62mp/h is 100km/h. Dont see why you think its not possible.

    • @Sekir80
      @Sekir80 2 года назад +20

      @@MyKonaRC It's possible of course. If you have some patience.
      Maybe you don't get my attempt of humor. ;)

    • @MegaSockenschuss
      @MegaSockenschuss 2 года назад +5

      @@Sekir80 These poor Ladas getting enough torture on this channel, there's really no need to make fun of them too. ^^

  • @danielhaaf7931
    @danielhaaf7931 2 года назад +45

    I made a switched (on/off) supercharger from a Toyota previa, and I found that using the bypass valve was really helpful when driving off-boost. I programmed all of this using an arduino and a stepper motor controller. I'm very willing to share with you.

    • @kd7cwg
      @kd7cwg 2 года назад +1

      I was thinking you could use the input from the throttle position sensor, along with calculated load value to control how much boost is needed at a specific load/rpm.

    • @JoniK1
      @JoniK1 2 года назад +1

      I have mad max style switch in my supercharged punto 😃

    • @Alexander-ol6jh
      @Alexander-ol6jh 6 месяцев назад

      how have you built the supercharger ?

  • @gsp911
    @gsp911 2 года назад +133

    13:30 "we could have used a regular supercharger"
    Well, anyone can do that. 😂

  • @josephsegarini5368
    @josephsegarini5368 11 месяцев назад +2

    That’s considered more of a supercharger than a turbo

  • @jessewildman1292
    @jessewildman1292 2 года назад +471

    You are definitely top tier professionals.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 2 года назад +17

      Uuuuh no.
      That being said, I still enjoy their videos.

    • @schumannresonanceswithverte
      @schumannresonanceswithverte 2 года назад +1

      I agree, you guys are the most awesome in what you do.
      Professionals get paid, that's the only problem.

    • @jessewildman1292
      @jessewildman1292 2 года назад +5

      @@joshuagibson2520 Woooooooshhhhhh

    • @jacobalstott93
      @jacobalstott93 2 года назад +5

      They're professional jimmy riggers but they do it well

    • @whollymindless
      @whollymindless 2 года назад +1

      Just not, probably, racers.

  • @qwerrrz202
    @qwerrrz202 2 года назад +12

    It's so interesting to see what you rig up here. Electric controlled bolt on (well more or less haha) turbo, that does work like it should. Very cool engineering going on.

    • @nikog7133
      @nikog7133 2 года назад +2

      There are companies that areaking electric turbo chargers. Not with starter motors of course.

    • @bo-dine7971
      @bo-dine7971 Год назад +1

      ​@@nikog7133 This one is actually really powerful, but the reason is that is sucks massive current from the battery, due to the power & the fast overheating this thing can only engage for short amount of time but still it's a cool toy & good for quarter mile.

  • @jonsnell4751
    @jonsnell4751 2 года назад +142

    Bentley Blower comes to mind. Place a switch under the accelerator pedal, when you hit full throttle, the motor starts the turbo. That's how that system worked in the UK, back in 1922.

    • @MiG21aholic
      @MiG21aholic 2 года назад +28

      The Bentleys had the blower running full time. Mercedes engaged it at full throttle only

    • @mbobelakjr
      @mbobelakjr 2 года назад

      Hi

    • @MV60
      @MV60 2 года назад +4

      Toyota had a clutched supercharger in 1985 that used a pedal switch to engage it too.

    • @ukuleletyke
      @ukuleletyke 2 года назад +1

      And the Bentleys had superchargers, rather than turbos. Direct permanent drive from the end of the crankshaft.

    • @tehgerbil
      @tehgerbil Год назад +1

      @@MiG21aholic awesome username, and giving the facts.

  • @seanhillebrandt2653
    @seanhillebrandt2653 2 года назад +4

    Very subtle, but I hear you loud and clear garage 54, keep doing what you do and keep tipping your cap, winking your eye, or even showing your hand. I stand with you.

  • @WueTownM1
    @WueTownM1 2 года назад +182

    you have to add a big butterfly checkvalve or something. So the air doesnt has to be drawn through the turbo if it isnt on.

    • @osbberjen
      @osbberjen 2 года назад +24

      yeah, the power gain is purely because its a less destriction when its on. doubt is more power than without

    • @Mastermindyoung14
      @Mastermindyoung14 2 года назад +11

      I doubt that turbo is a restriction at that power level.

    • @osbberjen
      @osbberjen 2 года назад +5

      @@Mastermindyoung14 not spinning it surely is. You ever seen a turbine wheel? Its a big restriction.

    • @Mastermindyoung14
      @Mastermindyoung14 2 года назад +1

      @@osbberjen not at that power level. Nope

    • @osbberjen
      @osbberjen 2 года назад +3

      @@Mastermindyoung14 for sure.

  • @blackman3951
    @blackman3951 2 года назад +6

    Use a potentiometer for the signal wires and attach it to the throttle and use a speed controller on the motor and you can set the build up of boost so it increases along with the injectors. I think that’d smooth out the acceleration and you decide how many revs the motor stops at (limit)

  • @josephfbuck
    @josephfbuck 2 года назад +200

    I would suggest you using a brushless DC motor not a starter motor on alternator that way you can have the very high RPMs

    • @minkusmaz
      @minkusmaz 2 года назад +6

      Why not just put that motor in the drive train or the serpentine belt?

    • @BruceCarbonLakeriver
      @BruceCarbonLakeriver 2 года назад +5

      @@minkusmaz I had the same thought I think it is called turbo compressor.

    • @Rudy97
      @Rudy97 2 года назад +18

      nonononononono, turob needs 100k+ rpm. Motors don't like to spin that fast and gears add power loss and wear out rly fast. Skip the turbo and get a blower if it needs to be electric.

    • @minkusmaz
      @minkusmaz 2 года назад +3

      @@BruceCarbonLakeriver Electric motor inline makes it a parallel hybrid ✌️✌️ Compressor is if the motor influences the air intake. There are electric super and turbochargers already

    • @geirkleven3936
      @geirkleven3936 2 года назад +1

      @@Rudy97 or a bigger turbo, ex Hx60 or hx80

  • @miketee2444
    @miketee2444 2 года назад +8

    No doubt in my mind that electric turbos will soon be a great option. With advanced Brushless motors and lipo batts it is totally possible to get the super high RPMs required for a turbo to be effective. The trick will be when someone puts together an electronics package that overcomes the issues of properly delivering the electric power and controlling boost.

    • @modelnutty6503
      @modelnutty6503 2 года назад +2

      yup, and maybe 1-2 "external" fuel injectors so it doesn't run too lean.

    • @aeroflopper
      @aeroflopper 2 года назад +3

      my audi s4 had a small electric turbo, they already using them

    • @twoeightythreez
      @twoeightythreez 2 года назад

      They will be great for helping to spool bigger turbos

    • @ProlificInvention
      @ProlificInvention 2 года назад +1

      All great points, excellent comment. Allow me to add to the conversation:
      Alternators generally max out at 100-200 watts output, this would be drawing off the cars battery primarily for the required current- For example: Treadmill motor puts out 1/3 hp (©250 watts), a V8 starter motor between 1 to 1.5hp (©750-1250 watts), and a diesel starter motor between 5-7hp (©3750-5250 watts). A turbocharger at full throttle on a small 4 cylinder is recovering about 20hp from the exhaust stream. These electric motors all have various rpm ranges which need to be accounted for in gearing to a mechanical turbo or technically a supercharger, I did the reading so you didn't have to. Basically you need a 20hp or above electric motor, controller, capable batteries, and gearing to achieve 30,000+ rpm to match the boost provided by a stock turbocharger on a 4 cylinder, which is quite cost prohibitive.

    • @teardowndan5364
      @teardowndan5364 2 года назад

      @@ProlificInvention Typical car alternators are 80-150A, not watts. The cabin blower alone can be 300+W, battery charging can draw another 300-400W (highest battery charging current I have seen on my car is 35A@14.5V, which is 507W for about a minute after winter cold-start), all of the required running lights on older cars with incandescent bulbs is another 100+W, the fuel and ignition system including sensors and computers is another 100+W, then you have all of the other non-essential accessories. Excluding battery charging which is only a temporary load after startup, that is 500+W required for baseline operation, basic comfort and regulatory compliance.

  • @greenequinox4377
    @greenequinox4377 2 года назад +33

    switch the starter motor for a chain saw motor with a centripetal clutch, that would make it scary fast

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 2 года назад

      Use a leaf blower!

    • @redlight3932
      @redlight3932 2 года назад +4

      A motor for your motor sounds good

    • @MrTruckerf
      @MrTruckerf 2 года назад +2

      Would blow the car engine...and not in a good way.

    • @jvinsnes
      @jvinsnes 2 года назад

      with chainsaw engines only pumping 2hp, you wont even get 2hp extra out of your car engine. Anything above 2hp would be physically impossible

  • @pauldean8638
    @pauldean8638 5 месяцев назад +2

    Go brushless , high rpm makes easier to marry to the turbo . Attach two throttles together at the throttle linkage , you can also separate wether you want boost early or later in rpm by how you join them . Usually a powered charger is ran boosting motors from low rpm , turbo chargers for use in motors at high rpm . Be cool to see it boosting the pipes to oblivion and if you add a little ethanol injector to give it more bang . More air needs more fuel , bigger bang ha ha ha it’ll either work or lift the head without undoing it 😁

  • @pader4471
    @pader4471 2 года назад +56

    Try using something like a potentiometer and install it on the gas pedal so you dont have to press a button

    • @SkyNines
      @SkyNines 2 года назад +3

      Came here to say this

  • @STIGRICAN
    @STIGRICAN 4 месяца назад +1

    MAYBE YOU CAN INSTALL A "PEDAL SWITCH", SO IT CAN COME ON AT "W.O.T. AND IT CAN ALSO "SPOOL DOWN" WHEN SHIFTING AFTER LETTING OF THE THROTTLE, OR, YOU CAN POWER SHIFT IT. 💪💪😎😎

  • @MotherAlgorithm
    @MotherAlgorithm 2 года назад +41

    I absolutely love this type of engineering

    • @carsandstuff365
      @carsandstuff365 2 года назад

      Bodge it style of engineering .. measure by eye .. tack it and your done

    • @MotherAlgorithm
      @MotherAlgorithm 2 года назад +5

      @@carsandstuff365 the mig welded crankshaft was superb. I just love the style of work that doesn't need CAD programs and specific car brain software's. Fun, practical analogue engineering, getting things done and keeping things working.

  • @cybaman1
    @cybaman1 2 года назад +1

    How about an automatic switch on option.... Maybe a physical switch connected to the relevant position of the throttle cable or pedal or carb etc which is related to say...half throttle....or a switching relay connected to the RPM sensor so at a specifically chosen RPM, the relay is switched on, allowing current to flow to the turbo drive motor. The motor.... Find a motor that's designed for long duty cycle use. Maybe from an electric scooter, or a washing machine, via a 12v DC inverter with a high output

  • @dannyruth9925
    @dannyruth9925 2 года назад +76

    You could add a switch on the accelerator and a relay so that when you floor it the turbo kicks in automatically.
    I love your website.

    • @tommynobaka
      @tommynobaka 2 года назад +4

      This would be worth the extra effort. I'm curious to see how this goes if they take it further. Genius engineering really because it's low high tech which make it hilarious

  • @howlerhusky8837
    @howlerhusky8837 2 года назад +2

    Would this be considered a turbocharger or a supercharger? It's not attached to the exhaust, so I would think it would be a supercharger. It kind of reminds me of the system they used on studebakers and packards back in the 50s. I wonder if you could somehow link the system to a modern electronic tachometer so the boost would increase with rpm?

    • @ProlificInvention
      @ProlificInvention 2 года назад +1

      Treadmill motor puts out 1/3 hp, a V8 starter motor between 1 to 1.5hp, and a diesel starter motor between 5-7hp. A turbocharger at full throttle on a small 4 cylinder is recovering about 20hp from the exhaust stream. These electric motors all have various rpm ranges which need to be accounted for in gearing to a mechanical turbo or technically a supercharger, I did the reading so you didn't have to. Basically you need a 20hp or above electric motor, controller, capable batteries, and gearing to achieve 30,000+ rpm to match the boost provided by a stock turbocharger on a 4 cylinder, which is quite cost prohibitive.

    • @howlerhusky8837
      @howlerhusky8837 2 года назад +1

      @@ProlificInvention Your right. Honestly, all the power they dump into that motor is just coming straight from the alternator. They would be way better off just running the turbo/supercharger directly off the fan belt, like studebaker did. They also might want to reduce the amount of tubing between the supercharger and carburetor. (If it's carbureted, I didn't look.) That way there would be less area to pressurize and there would be less lag.

  • @Aleks_Mechanics
    @Aleks_Mechanics 2 года назад +8

    notification squad, Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥

  • @teodorvaltchev360
    @teodorvaltchev360 2 года назад +1

    It's a populor joke, the mechanic to tell you he greased the brake discs.
    Could you show us what will happends if you put oil or grease in front discs and in the back drums .

  • @tankbg1311
    @tankbg1311 2 года назад +13

    "I'm just gonna pretend i don't have a license''
    ''Me neither''-*says while driving the car on a public road*
    XD XD

    • @GhostOfDamned
      @GhostOfDamned 2 года назад +2

      Typical day in Russia

    • @pflaffik
      @pflaffik 2 года назад

      You no longer need to bring a physical license in all countries, they will verify the license digitally with a QR code from your cellphone.

    • @MrTruckerf
      @MrTruckerf 2 года назад

      You need a license in Russia?

    • @tankbg1311
      @tankbg1311 2 года назад

      @@MrTruckerf yes,in most countries if not all you need a license to drive

  • @MyCrazyGarage
    @MyCrazyGarage 2 года назад +1

    You installed the MAF after the turbo, this wont work. It measures FLOW, not PRESSURE. It won´t be accurate at all.
    On turbo cars it needs to be installed BEFORE the turbo.

  • @mydimeisup5103
    @mydimeisup5103 2 года назад +21

    9:50 the look when they both don't have their license is priceless

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 2 года назад +1

      The first guy said he'll pretend he doesn't have it. Probably because he was intimidated by the idea of driving the car.

  • @m90sanimations56
    @m90sanimations56 2 года назад +1

    Turbochargering a WHAT WITH A FUCKING WHAT?! WHY XD

  • @josephfbuck
    @josephfbuck 2 года назад +22

    Back in the 1960s some of the cars that were running at Indianapolis ran electric fan blowers

    • @FunBitesTV
      @FunBitesTV 2 года назад +1

      Got any more info ? Thanks

  • @domenicozagari2443
    @domenicozagari2443 Год назад +1

    I used a leaf blower to pump air in to the engine, you need an inverter from 12v to 220 v. If you put a glass of petrol in the oil will the engine go faster?

  • @stevearmstrong4561
    @stevearmstrong4561 2 года назад +10

    I did the same thing on a Mercedes 240-d and made it spin the tires.My contraption was much smaller as I rigged it to work with the electronic transmission solenoid kick down switch on the accelerator peddle.

    • @exploranator
      @exploranator 2 года назад

      And what's beautiful is that it can be mounted ANYWHERE.

    • @treeguyable
      @treeguyable 2 года назад +1

      I was a Mercedes tech, back in the 80s, at a dealer. Loved the old 240 Ds' , reliable as hell, but slow.Glad someone had the moxy, to try and turbo charge one.

  • @iroekyjHD
    @iroekyjHD 2 года назад +1

    You need an Arduino, or small computer to map the voltage of the starter to the rpm of the motor. The starter shouldn't be pushing itself until the engine is.

  • @sonicdewd
    @sonicdewd 2 года назад +16

    This is an ideal setup to use an alternator as a three phase motor with the associated variable power unit to feed it. This way, the variation of speed of the turbo (by varying the motor) can be varied by different means (accelerator position, vacuum, crank speed, or other ways or even a combination of ways).

    • @bo-dine7971
      @bo-dine7971 Год назад

      The reason they used a start motor is that they knew those things are VERY powerful, hence the amazing result. However they obviously pull massive current & will drain the battery quick, there is also a bigger issue which is that starter motors are designed to operate for short amount of time so they have 0 provisions for cooling & even if you drive them at reduced power they overheat REAL quick, that's why he was really hesistant to use it outside of these very short bursts.
      But, for this kind of inneficient setup where you want good power especially for a bit of a joke project they are awesome! It's actually quite genius because it's the most SIMPLE yet powerful bolt-on for when you just want your car to accelerate real quick or something like that.

  • @paulseymour6963
    @paulseymour6963 2 года назад +11

    Excellent experiment. The alternator will put more load on the engine unless you use a separate battery. Only then it will be completely separate from the engine. Keep up the excellent vids. Big respect from me here in the UK 🇬🇧

    • @Marc83Aus
      @Marc83Aus 2 года назад +2

      essentially this a hybrid. the altenator will be drawing a small amount of power more longer to regenerate the battery but when needed the starter will be taking that power back more strongly.

    • @peterparker-fg5kr
      @peterparker-fg5kr 2 года назад +1

      the electric motor is not necessary, that assemby should be connected mecanically to the cranckshaft and is called a supercharger.

    • @Max_Chooch
      @Max_Chooch Год назад

      @@peterparker-fg5kr and that would defeat the purpose of their goal here, which was a standalone apparatus that doesn't directly sap power from that weak ass engine to do its job. MarcAFK is right.

  • @siddharthshekhawat5502
    @siddharthshekhawat5502 10 месяцев назад +1

    Install this system in place of alternater ,,or A C compressor so it moves with engine

  • @paulkocyla1343
    @paulkocyla1343 2 года назад +8

    "It´s an easy one. Everything you need is a lathe and someone who can operate it."
    -> If you have that, you can practically build a whole engine 😀

    • @osbberjen
      @osbberjen 2 года назад +2

      no, you cant make a engine block etc on a lathe

    • @johnkimble8506
      @johnkimble8506 2 года назад

      @@osbberjen I built 3 and a table so ...

    • @osbberjen
      @osbberjen 2 года назад +1

      @@johnkimble8506 3 what?

  • @c4r5on88
    @c4r5on88 8 месяцев назад +1

    Run it from the crank pulley and mess with the gearing

  • @nickblacksoul4318
    @nickblacksoul4318 2 года назад +17

    A starter motor is made run for small time ... It's very strong ,your almost at power that an electric turbo needs ,by modifying the starter motor it will last longer And not get hot but you need to put 2 bearings one small fan on the shaft and 2 new motor ends ...not too hard I ones made an electric bike like this 😁

    • @iamtheoffenderofall
      @iamtheoffenderofall 2 года назад

      Electric wheelchairs use starter motors all the time. Long runs for some

  • @dnorby6990
    @dnorby6990 2 года назад +1

    He sad the engine wont waste any power when driving the compressor from the starter motor but the alternator also draws energy from the engine to charge
    Up the battery becouse the starter motor so its the same...

  • @harshalsao
    @harshalsao 2 года назад +4

    next time install a NOS 🙏

  • @Avetho
    @Avetho 2 года назад +1

    If y'all could manage it, a spring starter instead of an electric starter would be really cool. Wind it up, turn the key, disengage the starter brake and hear the engine jolt to life, no battery really needed

  • @Mr371312
    @Mr371312 2 года назад +5

    Probably need to inject extra fuel when activated.

  • @nikospsycharis7667
    @nikospsycharis7667 2 года назад +1

    You can use an electric motor for boost just like the mild hybrids.

  • @ericdeven1296
    @ericdeven1296 2 года назад +5

    You need an extra fuel injector that sprays in extra fuel when you push the "power" button

    • @thebaddestogre-3698
      @thebaddestogre-3698 2 года назад +1

      A squeeze bottle of fuel taped to the steering wheel with a long hose going into the intake.🤣

    • @laszloszell8753
      @laszloszell8753 2 года назад +1

      lada dont have injectors lol

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz 2 года назад

      @@laszloszell8753 😂

  • @YansenHaryanto4547
    @YansenHaryanto4547 Год назад +1

    driving slow car fast is more fun than driving fast car slow

  • @karolwojtyla3047
    @karolwojtyla3047 2 года назад +6

    Garage54 invented an electricity powered engine compressor.

  • @etiennereijnders8848
    @etiennereijnders8848 2 года назад +1

    What if you put an electric motor of an old Prius to the the engine as an extra help?

  • @DG_427
    @DG_427 2 года назад +5

    I would love to see what difference it makes. If there is no easy access to dyno, they could do drag pulls and see the time difference.

  • @lilmike2710
    @lilmike2710 Год назад +2

    Id like to see it on a dyno. im curious as to the HP gains, if any

  • @cliffcorbitt9494
    @cliffcorbitt9494 2 года назад +23

    11:27. I believe the way you have the blower set up it's building pressure inside the intake enough at high res to open a valve slightly when it's not supposed to be open. That was probably gas and exhaust mixing and exploding in the exhaust pipe manifold and then exiting out the back

    • @ruikazane5123
      @ruikazane5123 2 года назад +8

      Misfiring and detonation at high RPM. Common for boosted or supercharged motors. Needs tighter spark plug gap or more powerful ignition and more timing

    • @dominicthomas4111
      @dominicthomas4111 2 года назад +1

      Aka a deadly backfire

    • @frazzledude
      @frazzledude 2 года назад +3

      @@ruikazane5123 This is a stock engine, so the misfiring and detonation could also be due to valve float.

    • @Kj16V
      @Kj16V 2 года назад +2

      Nah that turbo won't be building even close to enough pressure to do that. I'd be surprised if it made much than 1psi. More likely to be unburned fuel built up when it hit the rev limiter.

    • @charliebrown238
      @charliebrown238 2 года назад +1

      The valve spring is probably around 60lb seat pressure .... there aint no way in hell this thing is opening the intake valve from intake pressure lol

  • @megadeuz6148
    @megadeuz6148 2 года назад +1

    This is almost like the police interceptor from the mad max movies!

  • @natedogg1238
    @natedogg1238 2 года назад +6

    Absolutely love this,another awesome build! I wonder if it would be possible to put a planetary set in the tensioning pulley and maybe use a more constant drive motor,something designed run longer with less heat being generated.. like a bus electric fan motor or something 😂,also maybe a full throttle switch and arming switch?? Keep up the kick ass builds guys! 👌🏾👍🏾

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад

      what was that turbo boost?🤣🤣🤣

  • @captnjaygreybeard6394
    @captnjaygreybeard6394 2 года назад +1

    Can you draw a thick black line on one of the pulleys so it is easier to see it if it is spinning?

  • @cliftonmassey3143
    @cliftonmassey3143 2 года назад +3

    I think using a 3 hp muti-speed wood router powered by a inverter would work much better then a starter motor.

    • @ProlificInvention
      @ProlificInvention 2 года назад

      Treadmill motor puts out 1/3 hp, a V8 starter motor between 1 to 1.5hp, and a diesel starter motor between 5-7hp. A turbocharger at full throttle on a small 4 cylinder is recovering about 20hp from the exhaust stream. These electric motors all have various rpm ranges which need to be accounted for in gearing to a mechanical turbo or technically a supercharger, I did the reading so you didn't have to.

  • @davesnothereman699
    @davesnothereman699 2 года назад +1

    I would add a butterfly valve and a second intake or one way flap so that the car doesn't have to pull through the turbo while not in use.

  • @LegionGamingTV
    @LegionGamingTV 2 года назад +4

    I had a smile on my face the whole drive! You guys are awesome!!

  • @RG-lq9de
    @RG-lq9de 4 месяца назад +1

    WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU USE THE SAME SETUP
    BUT INSTEAD OF BLOWING AIR INTO THE ENGIN..
    PUT IT ON THE EXHAUST TO SUCK AIR OUT....
    OF BOTHE ...WHAT WILL HAPPEN????

    • @RG-lq9de
      @RG-lq9de 4 месяца назад +1

      I'm excited to see the results..the suction in the exhaust manifold will cause the pistons to lift when the exhaust valve opens..

  • @calvinhobbes7504
    @calvinhobbes7504 Год назад +3

    I really enjoy your channel, sirs!!! You seem to have a lot of fun doing these projects and it shows. I hope you folks stay well -- and warm -- up there!! Whoever does your translation is so meticulous and detailed. Thanks very much!

  • @Shadobanned4life
    @Shadobanned4life 2 года назад +1

    This is just a question-
    Is there a provision for adding more gasoline to the air/fuel mixture along with the extra air being pushed-in? It seems that more air mixed with the same amount of gasoline would cause the engine to run very lean,maybe even burning through a piston?
    Great vid,great fabrication work!

    • @robmarmaduke
      @robmarmaduke 2 года назад +1

      That's what I was thinking, unless the engine was already running rich and the extra air made it run at the correct mix thus making more power

  • @jorgefernandez-mv8hu
    @jorgefernandez-mv8hu 2 года назад +3

    That was pretty cool! I am sure it can be improved a lot. Great to see that it worked.

  • @danhard8440
    @danhard8440 2 года назад +1

    i haven't watched this channel in a while that guy isn't lookin so well

  • @josephfbuck
    @josephfbuck 2 года назад +4

    The whole reason I suggested a brushless motor was so that you could run the turbine fan flat out because a starter motor the brushes can't handle that much RPMs and there's fist-sized brushless motors that turn over 60,000 RPMs

    • @genehunsinger3981
      @genehunsinger3981 2 года назад +1

      sounds reasonable to me.More reliable also.

    • @arva1kes
      @arva1kes 2 года назад +1

      starter will not run 60000 anyways. most of these smaller turbos run 30-40k.They have two multiplying pulley sets so starter actually runs around 10-15x slower than turbo.

    • @emanuelgoncalvessantos4499
      @emanuelgoncalvessantos4499 2 года назад

      That's why they're using pulleys. Now you know any BLDS with more than 1,5kw as a starter have?

    • @arva1kes
      @arva1kes 2 года назад

      @@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499 you can't say "thats why" if i just said thats why :D joseph said that burshless wont run 60k , but smaller boost turbos event don't run 60k and they are using multiplication so it's not needed for brushless to run 60k. that was my point. I understand very well that they have low speed, high torque motor hence pulley system.

    • @arva1kes
      @arva1kes 2 года назад

      @@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499 yes 3kw+ . ruclips.net/video/O1AjzwfIYgc/видео.html

  • @TimZ007
    @TimZ007 2 года назад +2

    Run the belt right to the engine. use a AC clutch to cycle the supercharger on or off. Like nitrous. Maybe some scuba tanks for boost also.

  • @marcthelegend1
    @marcthelegend1 2 года назад +5

    I feel you're getting good results because when it isn't turned on, it's massively restricting airflow and hurting 'stock' performance.. a regular turbo will spin slowly at idle, this being connected to a pulley doesn't turn at all.
    I'd love to see a boost gauge to see what kind of boost is being generated.

    • @peterwhittle522
      @peterwhittle522 2 года назад +2

      I'm sure they know how a stock lada drives from the back of their hand

    • @petelattimer6808
      @petelattimer6808 2 года назад +1

      hurting stock performance? on a LADA????? good luck with that! i drove a few in the UK when they weere sold here and gutless was probably the nicest way to describe the performance.

  • @ZERO0ST0
    @ZERO0ST0 2 года назад +1

    Hey a good ydea a smoller puly at the starter getinh the wheit of

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers 2 года назад +6

    Fantastic. So much fun and simple.
    The impeller's shaft won't last long with those sudden stops.

    • @homer5103
      @homer5103 2 года назад +1

      Not even remotely true

    • @exploranator
      @exploranator 2 года назад +1

      But it isn't stopping. It is just not being powered. It has massive mechanical advantage on the starter via the ratios and the actual masses of the pulleys. It's not slamming to a stop each time he turns off the starter motor.

  • @billywilliams6853
    @billywilliams6853 2 года назад +1

    Does it snow
    All year in Russia 🇷🇺???

  • @JSTheAnonymousOne
    @JSTheAnonymousOne 2 года назад +5

    In theory, you could cover the outside in heatsinks to help get rid of some of the heat, but I can't imagine it would do enough for stuff that's deeper in the starter. Also, I loved the video and now I want to see more tests with this setup (or similar). I was not expecting these results

  • @every-istand-ophobe6320
    @every-istand-ophobe6320 2 года назад +1

    I wanna pay in rubles for the merch.

  • @Stormas3000
    @Stormas3000 2 года назад +4

    Make it with a clutch wheel so that it continues to spin when you turn off the starter motor.

  • @tOxIc_TrEaSuRe
    @tOxIc_TrEaSuRe Год назад +1

    try compressed air supercharging-

  • @jeeper426
    @jeeper426 2 года назад +3

    i'd be curious to see this on a dyno to see what the actual output is N/A and e-turbo, thats pretty cool all the same

  • @dennisschmidt975
    @dennisschmidt975 2 года назад +1

    Sorry I'm out... I've no care for anything Russian any longer

  • @iDiOt5
    @iDiOt5 2 года назад +1

    Never seen a Lada that fast before. Would be cool if you can do that on my unused car.

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 2 года назад

      Never seen a Lada in person.. this would be a fun project to do to any car, just afew cheap bolt on parts and you have a slightly faster car. (Definitely needs some improvement, doesn't look very reliable.) Mabye a Miata?

  • @aqwahomeengineering3960
    @aqwahomeengineering3960 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hybrid with starter motor next

  • @proller14
    @proller14 2 года назад +2

    Well, a turbocharger should have lubrication with oil, so that would be a nice addition. If it needs to be a separate system (from the engine itself) then add an oil reservior, and pump for it. You can tune the spin rate of the turbo, based on the revs. I'm not sure about the way the revs are shown on the dash in the old Ladas, but as soon as you have any reading, you can convert that interval and map to a controller that controls the spin of the turbocharger. Just quick tips :) Contact me if any help needed with the electronic part of the stuff! Tho' I'm sure you can figure it out! :D

  • @pophamlarry
    @pophamlarry 2 года назад +1

    Awesome! Absolutely beautiful

  • @rustypotatos
    @rustypotatos 2 года назад +1

    11:17 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA that is hilarious

  • @leftyliberal6730
    @leftyliberal6730 2 года назад +1

    You need to verify times and mph on a 1/4 mile track. With and without the system functioning. also suggest a blow off valve along intake with an oil line to the turbo so bearings dont freeze. Dont think you need a waste gate because your not running any exhaust. May also need bigger injectors with a calibrated mass air for fuel so you dont run lean and detonate if really are pushing cfm. Lower compression needed for pistons if pushing serious cfm and may also want to run atleast premium gas for it so less contaminates cause detonation.

  • @Chris-yy7qc
    @Chris-yy7qc 2 года назад +1

    Need for Lada: Novosibirsk drift

  • @MimicoBungalow
    @MimicoBungalow Год назад

    Vlad! The BEST PART was the drive around Novosibirsk! Влад! САМАЯ ЛУЧШАЯ ЧАСТЬ - это поездка по Новосибирску!

  • @Grosmeo
    @Grosmeo 2 года назад

    You crazy Russian. You have so much imagination and are so creative. You sure love the Lada. So, when is it going to be flying Lada?
    Вы сумасшедший русский. У вас так много воображения и вы так креативны. Ты, конечно, любишь Ладу. Так когда же будет летать Лада?

  • @TK42138
    @TK42138 28 дней назад

    Good video, car looks fun to drive.
    How about converting the unit to run directly from the crank pulley to make a centrifugal supercharger.
    Another method (but a lot more complex) is to fit a 48 volt alternator to power a higher rated motor similar to modern anti-lag electric assist turbos and mild hybrids - which use 48 volt electric because standard 12 volt car electrics just isn't powerful enough.

  • @ilya6468
    @ilya6468 2 года назад +1

    Does it work in any motor?

  • @Grumpy_old_Boot
    @Grumpy_old_Boot 2 года назад +1

    Put it on a dyno, and tune it !

  • @dangerousfreedom4965
    @dangerousfreedom4965 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why not just hook it up to the exhaust?

  • @hayzeproductions7093
    @hayzeproductions7093 28 дней назад

    7:04 Might sound negative.. But im only pointing this out.
    Most factory turbo vehicles have their MAF sensor before the turbo, not in the charged side of turbo.
    I have 2 vehicles with MAF's before turbo from factory. I personally would prefer setup that way because if turbo has a leaking journal bearing, it will blow oil deposits in the charged side of intake and leave pools of oil resting at bottom of intercoolers. The MAF sensor should be kept dry but also not get beat up by forced induction mods.

  • @mazda2284
    @mazda2284 Год назад

    LTO Lithium batteries and higher voltage motor.

  • @billywilliams6853
    @billywilliams6853 2 года назад +1

    Fast and 😠 furious.

  • @mikeznel6048
    @mikeznel6048 2 года назад +1

    Maybe set a wide open throttle switch so when you put the gas all the way down, it turns on the turbo and fires an extra injector in the intake so it gets the additional fuel needed for the extra air pushed in the cylinder.

    • @pflaffik
      @pflaffik 2 года назад

      You don’t need extra injector if using a carburetor on the suction side, I had a Holley 650cfm going through a Rotomaster turbo kit for a Camaro, the power increase with no other mods or tuning was awesome. Carburetor on the pressure side will not work that well because the jets will deliver fuel based on vacuum and not incoming pressure. So, move the carb to the suction side to counter the lean fuel issue.

  • @professor-viewsalot
    @professor-viewsalot 2 месяца назад

    Now, your talking my language,
    A piece of Cake,
    I see Only 2 problems:
    Piece is singular so needs to be upgraded to pieces (plural),
    Theres no size reference so need to add the word BIG.
    OK, lets do it.
    Ps the convertion of a turbo to an electric supercharger was quite good too.
    Hint: check the temperature of the alternator.
    The power in Watts heating the starter motor is (the system efficiency) less than the power heating the alternator, so you will be melting the insulation off the stator coils & cooking the bearings.

  • @leeverink32
    @leeverink32 10 дней назад

    id like to see how mutch horsepower you could get out of a standard lada engine. Like a blower and a turbo full exhaust boost would be fun to see a 10 second Lada!

  • @kafklatsch3198
    @kafklatsch3198 5 месяцев назад

    Great project......the torque on the starter would easily handle another gear reduction... maybe get to 40,000rpms... observations: Huge power draw on a starter motor.... It seems it would have a charging issue.. What bearings are you using, as 20-30,000 rpms require specific bearings...and the duty cycle on the starter is? ..but Maybe the starter location gets cooling from the moving air... great project

  • @vaclavsmetana6226
    @vaclavsmetana6226 Год назад +1

    Russian Vtec :D