I’d point out that this generation in the U.K. we’re taking A LOT of drugs back then and I think this album just didn’t play to the type of drugs people were taking… The first album was perfect for cannabis, LSD, mushrooms and ecstasy… Their fans were still taking those drugs when the Second Coming was released, but it just didn’t vibe right as the band, squire in particular had moved onto cocaine… But it’s a great album nonetheless
If any other band had produced this album the press would have called them the new stone roses. You have to remember that oasis were the next big thing when this album came out. It’s such a great album but how do you follow up after a debut like the Stone roses ? Impossible!
My fav song by the stone roses for sure, love spread, fools gold and I wanna be adore are masterpieces, this band is very underrated. Fun fact: oasis exist thank to the stone roses.
Second Coming was a phenomenal album, they could never replicate their first record as it's as close to perfection as you can possibly get, so they done something different and gave us 12 songs with a whole host of influences, blues, rock , funk etc Driving South, Tears, Ten Storey Love Song, How Do You asleep, Love Spreads are The Roses at their absolute finest.
Interesting... Beck is in the video of the US release of this single, when rock crossed in to dance in Manc clubs you could go to either and the roses would be playing the 2nd summer of love 69 and 89, hence, Madchester.
Fun fact : Beck appeared in the US video for this song. The song is (allegedly) about a dream John Squire (guitarist) had were he was at the crucifiction of Jesus but Jesus was a black woman.... 'Love Spreads her arms and waits there for the nailers' 'Let me put you in the picture, let me show you what i mean, the Messiah is my sister, their aint no King, man, shes my Queen'
Great reaction. You may also react to: Burt Bacharach, Joni Mitchell, Carole King, The Kinks, The Beatles, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Stevie Wonder, Pink Floyd, Electric Light Orchestra, David Bowie, Simon & Garfunkel, Paul Weller, Phil Colins, Carpenters, Depeche Mode, Tears For Fears, The Stone Roses, Joe Jackson, Primal Scream, Oasis, Blur, Steven Wilson, Daft Punk, Massive Attack, Moby, Bonobo, Gorillaz, Coldplay, Kasabian, Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds, Cut Copy, Tame Impala I like sophisticated music in terms of songwriting.
Honourable mention: The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Jam, The Style Council, Marvin Gaye, Jimi Hendrix, Robert Cray, King Crimson, Eagles, Neil Young, The Clash, ABBA, Bee Gees, Nirvana, Foo Fighters, The Stranglers, The Smiths, Johnny Marr, Teenage Fanclub, The Charlatans, Suede, The Verve, Spiritualized, The Chemical Brothers, Sean Lennon, The Lightning Seeds, Kula Shaker, Beady Eye, Ian Brown, The Libertines, Ladytron, Little Dragon, The National, Miles Kane, Jane Weaver, Roisin Murphy, The Soundcarriers, Villagers
I remember they released it as a single maybe before the 2nd album came out, or just after, don’t remember, but anyway the anticipation was huge and this single didn’t disappoint, although people were mixed about the album, it turns out it needed time to grow, but probably it was a few tracks too long, some weak links in there that diluted its power.
This is rock n roll - it rolls and you feel it but you can't quite put your finger on why. Until you listen to Reni's isolated drums on it and it all makes sense - it's a little low in the mix on the single but you hear it easily on this - defo a Purdie shuffle! ruclips.net/video/2iePKcrATSA/видео.html
John Squire’s guitar playing is so tasteful. British music are generally more artistic. The chord choices and the layering of different sounds are a lot more thoughtful. Try to breakdown each individual layers of sounds in detail, see how they interact and layered up, forming a rich texture. You would realise that British music are generally more interesting. You may also watch a video from the James Hargreaves Guitar channel: REVEALED: Every Studio Track Recorded For Don’t Look Back In Anger (for now) And Who Played What... You would realise that there are so many layers in the song. Which you would never get this many layers of sounds in American rock bands.
If you are looking for a comparison to Oasis Champagne Supernova live at Knebworth, then The Stone Roses live at Heaton Park, Fools Gold, from the Made of Stone DVD will more than compete
Looking at the (many) producer credits on Second Coming indicates just how much that album was a Frankenstein creation. Some great individual tracks, but little to no cohesive thought behind it. It's almost as if Geffen, the record company bankrolling the album's production, said "Enough is enough. You've got an album's worth of tracks done. Put out the album."
The way you mentioned “pop rock” there, to me, is a bit strange to hear. Because I always relate “pop rock” as 4 chords, simple, generic pop songs with distortion on guitar, and with zero sophistication in songwriting. How I see it, is that the Alternative Music/Rock Music in the UK were the most popular music. That’s why they are called Brit-pop. But they are not written for the purposes to become popular like those dmb down “pop rock” I associate about. And when they are writing a song, they don’t think of writing a “pop rock” song. They think of writing a song with good chords, good melody, good texture/layering of sounds, good arrangements, with innovative songwriting techniques. Penny Lane from The Beatles for example, has many interesting sounds, it has great arrangement, it has a rather odd but genius downward modulation key change. And also some very innovative chord choices. British bands really admire this type of creativity and sophisticated songwriting. And that’s why Alternative music is big there. I think deep in their mind, it is these innovative ideas that make a song good, regardless of the genre of the song.
This album had the unfortunate release right as Grunge was really taking off and the new Brit Pop movement was still around the corner. Sad really, the album was not finished and you can tell, (there are some really good songs on it though) but they finally were able to get out of their contract. Nearly six years between albums messed up everything for them, lost all momentum they had building.
Second Coming was a complete u turn from their 1st album, drugs played a big part in the influence of their music and for the 1st album they were using ecstasy and cannabis so the songs are really euphoric and mellow, during the second coming era the guitarist John Squire had a pretty bad cocaine habit which led to the bluesy rock you hear now :)
I never understood people's issue with The Second Coming. Great album.
I’d point out that this generation in the U.K. we’re taking A LOT of drugs back then and I think this album just didn’t play to the type of drugs people were taking… The first album was perfect for cannabis, LSD, mushrooms and ecstasy…
Their fans were still taking those drugs when the Second Coming was released, but it just didn’t vibe right as the band, squire in particular had moved onto cocaine… But it’s a great album nonetheless
If any other band had produced this album the press would have called them the new stone roses. You have to remember that oasis were the next big thing when this album came out. It’s such a great album but how do you follow up after a debut like the Stone roses ? Impossible!
I like it. Is a bit self indulgent but I actually think it may be better overall than the first one.
I can. It wasn't the stone roses pt2 that's what they wanted. I love the second coming too
Love both albums 😍
I was obsessed with The Stone Roses back in the day - still think they are flipping cool.
I've always loved their vibe.
I love the laid-back swagger of this song.
Potentially their best song! I'd recommend a listen to Standing Here & All Across the Sands 👌🏻
Here in America, Love Spreads got a couple of months of air play but it blew me away! Love this song!
An amazing song, easily my favourite Stone Roses track.
Great song ,great reaction...Definitely need to do made of stone and this is the one 🔥 🔥
Second coming was a great album in its own right just their debut album was legendary 🔥
please share that sentiment on dull reaction channels on YT. We need to keep theft alive!
It was always going to struggle to compete with their first album, but this song is easily my favourite all time SR track.
My fav song by the stone roses for sure, love spread, fools gold and I wanna be adore are masterpieces, this band is very underrated. Fun fact: oasis exist thank to the stone roses.
What a magnificent tune by the stone roses, what a band, and the beck comparison , absolutely
Second Coming was a phenomenal album, they could never replicate their first record as it's as close to perfection as you can possibly get, so they done something different and gave us 12 songs with a whole host of influences, blues, rock , funk etc
Driving South, Tears, Ten Storey Love Song, How Do You asleep, Love Spreads are The Roses at their absolute finest.
When this was first released, my immediate reaction was, this guitarist is channeling Hendrix!
Interesting... Beck is in the video of the US release of this single, when rock crossed in to dance in Manc clubs you could go to either and the roses would be playing the 2nd summer of love 69 and 89, hence, Madchester.
Love it
Fun fact : Beck appeared in the US video for this song.
The song is (allegedly) about a dream John Squire (guitarist) had were he was at the crucifiction of Jesus but Jesus was a black woman....
'Love Spreads her arms and waits there for the nailers'
'Let me put you in the picture, let me show you what i mean, the Messiah is my sister, their aint no King, man, shes my Queen'
You guys must listen to "Tears" from the Second Coming...Squire's masterpiece! Great reactions btw
Brilliant song to zone out too. Beck is definitely a good call, never thought of it before but yes.
Ty had some good points on this one 😳 Pretty cool for 1994, bummer I missed the whole "Madchester" scene while still stuck in the 80's, ha
Great reaction. You may also react to:
Burt Bacharach, Joni Mitchell, Carole King, The Kinks, The Beatles, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Stevie Wonder, Pink Floyd, Electric Light Orchestra, David Bowie, Simon & Garfunkel, Paul Weller, Phil Colins, Carpenters, Depeche Mode, Tears For Fears, The Stone Roses, Joe Jackson, Primal Scream, Oasis, Blur, Steven Wilson, Daft Punk, Massive Attack, Moby, Bonobo, Gorillaz, Coldplay, Kasabian, Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds, Cut Copy, Tame Impala
I like sophisticated music in terms of songwriting.
Honourable mention:
The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Jam, The Style Council, Marvin Gaye, Jimi Hendrix, Robert Cray, King Crimson, Eagles, Neil Young, The Clash, ABBA, Bee Gees, Nirvana, Foo Fighters, The Stranglers, The Smiths, Johnny Marr, Teenage Fanclub, The Charlatans, Suede, The Verve, Spiritualized, The Chemical Brothers, Sean Lennon, The Lightning Seeds, Kula Shaker, Beady Eye, Ian Brown, The Libertines, Ladytron, Little Dragon, The National, Miles Kane, Jane Weaver, Roisin Murphy, The Soundcarriers, Villagers
Amazing band:)
good choice
I remember they released it as a single maybe before the 2nd album came out, or just after, don’t remember, but anyway the anticipation was huge and this single didn’t disappoint, although people were mixed about the album, it turns out it needed time to grow, but probably it was a few tracks too long, some weak links in there that diluted its power.
Check out F.E.A.R and my star by Ian brown.
Great songs. I'm sure you'd both love them.👍
I visited Manchester in the early 90’s even saw bands play at the Hacienda. The Hacienda was defiantly the music and club was drug influenced.
I always felt on top going in there
This is rock n roll - it rolls and you feel it but you can't quite put your finger on why. Until you listen to Reni's isolated drums on it and it all makes sense - it's a little low in the mix on the single but you hear it easily on this - defo a Purdie shuffle! ruclips.net/video/2iePKcrATSA/видео.html
have you tried ian browns solo stuff
John Squire’s guitar playing is so tasteful.
British music are generally more artistic. The chord choices and the layering of different sounds are a lot more thoughtful.
Try to breakdown each individual layers of sounds in detail, see how they interact and layered up, forming a rich texture. You would realise that British music are generally more interesting.
You may also watch a video from the James Hargreaves Guitar channel:
REVEALED: Every Studio Track Recorded For Don’t Look Back In Anger (for now) And Who Played What...
You would realise that there are so many layers in the song. Which you would never get this many layers of sounds in American rock bands.
Next I recommend breaking into heaven
I never understood the American sound on some tracks of this album. I still like it though.
Its the 60's style vibe in the instrumentation I hear as an American 😎
If you are looking for a comparison to Oasis Champagne Supernova live at Knebworth, then The Stone Roses live at Heaton Park, Fools Gold, from the Made of Stone DVD will more than compete
I'd check out Tightrope from Second Coming album, acoustic song, completely different from the Roses sound. Check it out guys
Looking at the (many) producer credits on Second Coming indicates just how much that album was a Frankenstein creation. Some great individual tracks, but little to no cohesive thought behind it. It's almost as if Geffen, the record company bankrolling the album's production, said "Enough is enough. You've got an album's worth of tracks done. Put out the album."
I'm with Shaun of the dead with this one
The way you mentioned “pop rock” there, to me, is a bit strange to hear.
Because I always relate “pop rock” as 4 chords, simple, generic pop songs with distortion on guitar, and with zero sophistication in songwriting.
How I see it, is that the Alternative Music/Rock Music in the UK were the most popular music. That’s why they are called Brit-pop. But they are not written for the purposes to become popular like those dmb down “pop rock” I associate about.
And when they are writing a song, they don’t think of writing a “pop rock” song. They think of writing a song with good chords, good melody, good texture/layering of sounds, good arrangements, with innovative songwriting techniques.
Penny Lane from The Beatles for example, has many interesting sounds, it has great arrangement, it has a rather odd but genius downward modulation key change. And also some very innovative chord choices.
British bands really admire this type of creativity and sophisticated songwriting. And that’s why Alternative music is big there.
I think deep in their mind, it is these innovative ideas that make a song good, regardless of the genre of the song.
There's no such thing as "the best Stone Roses song". They're all fantastic. Love Spreads probably has the best intro though??????
This album had the unfortunate release right as Grunge was really taking off and the new Brit Pop movement was still around the corner. Sad really, the album was not finished and you can tell, (there are some really good songs on it though) but they finally were able to get out of their contract. Nearly six years between albums messed up everything for them, lost all momentum they had building.
Ian Brown toured last year without the band using backing music. Can’t help thinking it was just a money grab. He was off key most of the time.
🍋🍋🍋🍋
same time as beck loser
doubt they were directly influenced but same time so ?
Gen x teaching something 😂
Im hiding in the trees with a picnic,shes over there! you realise this from the devils point of view?
Second Coming was shite. This is probably the only decent tune off it.
Driving South is also pretty freaking awesome. I don’t love every track, but I also don’t get the (in my opinion) overblown hate train, either.
It's a superb album 😮😍
Tears , love spreads , ten storey . Daybreak . Driving south . Breaking into heaven . Begging you - there’s a bunch of colossal songs
Second Coming was a complete u turn from their 1st album, drugs played a big part in the influence of their music and for the 1st album they were using ecstasy and cannabis so the songs are really euphoric and mellow, during the second coming era the guitarist John Squire had a pretty bad cocaine habit which led to the bluesy rock you hear now :)