How can one man write so many great guitar riffs? John squire is a genius and this is one of his best riffs. From the kickass blues riffs here, to the dreamy brilliant I wanna be adored, the bright shiny waterfall or she bangs the drums riffs. And yet he's still so underrated
One of my favourite albums. I love the band’s playing on this. All are on top form, which is surprising judging by the mood of the group at the time. Definitely more of John Squire passion project but I love it nonetheless. Great video 👍
Reni's backing vocals, in my opinion, are done deliberately to create musical tension tension which is resolved later. The Beatles did this a lot too. Sounds great to me
Yeah. They’re not harmonious, pretty backing vocals-that was the first album. This album is dirtier, murkier, nastier. The backing vocals create a devious edge under the main vocals you couldn’t achieve otherwise
I think they’re great. Listening to them out of context is entirely missing the point. They’re an instrument here, providing edge to the main vocals. Listen in context and it makes Ian sound more dangerous, edgy on this song
Hi James, been loving all your content recently after discovering your channel a few weeks ago. John Squire is my favourite guitarist and I take a lot of inspiration from him, so to have a channel talk in depth about him and other similar players has been fun to see. I'd love it if you had a listen to my band The Verdis. We're coming out of Sheffield and are ready to smash summer with lots of gigs on the way. Keep up the good work!
I love these videos they are fascinating. I am a huge music fan and have listened to thousands of tracks but always rank Love Spreads as having the number one guitar riff. I also think the Second Coming is a hugely underrated album. At least 75 per cent of it is superb. That’s a pretty decent percentage 👍
One of The Best intros Ever, I love thisTune! Also The Second Coming is A Quality Album! Take away the 13 minutes intro n Its Obviously Better! I think a lot of the fans expected the debut part 2! Cheers James
Another great video James. I need to catch up on where you are up to with your release. I know a lot of producers will have some detuned vocals blended into the mix to thicken the main vocal take. I'm not saying this was the reason for this but it works in the context of the mix.
Great insightful video James. Quite taken aback by how many tracks especially guitar was put down and it makes sense when listening to how full the track is. So many cool things going on. That drum groove is outrageous though I mean, it's totally sick. What a groove machine Reni is and it always sounds so effortless. I've got a copy of the second night of Heaton Park and it sounds like they hadn't ever been away, it sounded that good and IB was in tune for the whole gig which was amazing too. It's just bizarre how he actually can sing in tune then instantly become woeful. I'd love a bit of insight into why he's not consistent live. Cheers James!
I only ever saw them in the 2010s but was absolutely amazed how they could nail these tracks live too...for almost 30 years I'd thought Resurrection couldn't possibly impress live compared to the deep album mix, how wrong I was! And the new ending to Fool's Gold in the last round of gigs was killer :O
Reni BVs.... My thoughts 1. He was taking the mickey out of Ian's often out of tune vocals 2. He has aiming for a 'unison bend' type effect of being slightly sharp to cut through the mix 3. As you said, rough vocal before he quit
Yeah interesting ideas definitely. It's a shame they were always so interview & camera shy as a band, because we know so little about their behind the scenes world
Re: Backing vocals by Reni, he is always _spot on_ so I don’t get that. Maybe it was originally him goofing around and when he left they put it on there on purpose? Lol. Be a shame if they were that petty as to sacrifice their own song and the great backing vocals (by the greatest drummer today) all for a petty fight. Such a shame. This band should still be going strong. I think John and Ian’s styles blending together is what made them great. Although Second Coming, penned mostly by Squire, has been a fave of mine since it came out. Love your videos James! Cheers from America!🇺🇸
Great video! Really enjoyed that just a few points, i know around the recording of this album there was a lot of turmoil People think it took 5 years to record it didnt. Recoding started in 93. They couldn’t record due to legal issues. From some of the bands interviews John quoted as saying that he wanted a drummer that was out of bed before 9pm. The drugs had a big negative impact on the band also around this time. Reni wasnt in a good place. We all know reni has a fantastic voice and even better drummer. And to me that sounds nothing like him. Also the demos for this album were recorded in the rolling stones mobile studio sitting in a pub carpark in N.wales deeside. Also johns over dubs are played with a strat or a telecaster not the big gold gibson. Hence the different tone. Great insight into this song really enjoy your breakdown of my favourite bands 👍 One of my favourite stories is the when oasis recorded DM and toured the whole world, and came back to record MG, the roses were still recording the stone coming
The BGV on Love Spreads are definitely Squire. If you have listened to his vocals from his solo album it is the same weird nasal twangy delivery. Reni on a bad day would not have put down a vocal like this.
Its The most Overlooked Album! Personally coz the 13 minutes intro, Tunes like Begging You, Squires Guitars sounding like Jimmy Page n fans expecting the debut part 2! Another one of There's is The Complete Stone Roses which is Another Overlooked Album (Even though its a compilation of there Early stuff/BSides/Singles etc!) It's Another Classic Album for Me!
I'm gradually coming round to appreciating it more. If much of the extended stuff (breaking into heaven intro and loads of begging you) were stripped out, and almost all the backing vocals, I'd like it a hell of alot more. Squires playing it ace on here
@@eddysandland58 complete stone roses was on constant rotation when I was a teenager, it was my favourite (tunes like standing here can't be ignored) probably their most complete album as the title suggests, if we can forgive the clipped version of Resurrection.
@@tastemaker_87 Init man! Honestly I think me n my mates had The Complete on More than their debut! Plus the early Punk & Youthful Tell Me, So Young n Here It Comes! To Standing Here, Something Burning n Hardest Thing In The World! Classic and Personally (coz I was 14 in 95' when this came out & missed the first album n Buzz etc) this for me is as Good as the Debut! Quality Album!
During the intro, alongside a similar sounding instrument, i have always heard a vocal harmony singing what sounds like "oooooooh. Make my....". It happens just once and sounds like it was cut off short. I cant find it in the isolated tracks but i cant help hearing it every time the song is played. Once you hear it, you cant miss it. Its on the original album version only. Not the single at approx 57 seconds. Its so clear once found. Love to know if anyone else can spot it.
OK I'm gonna be a troublemaker here hahaha I think you can hear the second slide guitar track. It has an INCREDIBLY human-sounding expression, but nonetheless I think it's a very buried John Squire slide guitar #2
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar im not sure. Before the two words i can hear, there are two very clear vocal, "ooooooooh, ooooooooh" harmonising. More than one voice too. If i time them, then play the guitar tracks, the slide is quite different sounding. These possible vocal sounds should be clearer if they are guitar sounds by listening to just the guitar tracks isolated, but they are not there.
Yeah that’s right. Liam smashed his guitar to bits during those sessions so Noel gave Nick the guitar he recorded Wonderwall with to replace the one Liam broke
That’s a brilliant analysis of the mix, James. It’s really interesting to see how recording philosophy shifts between eras and artists. For this reason I agree with another of your commentators that it would be great if you could do a Manics track. (As regards them, there are US and UK mixes of at least one album which might turn out to have different elements in each). A sideways slant on this might be to look at a Neil Young recording, since he’s generally been committed, along with David Briggs his main early producer, to trying to suggesting something close to a live feel in the studio. This means that mistakes are often left in purposely and the idea of buried tracks would seem a bit strange. Jack White has imitated this with some modifications. I was wondering too about those off-key backing vocals of Reni’s. Whatever the reason, they remind me of something I’ve experienced in live situations. It sounds very much like someone singing who can’t hear themselves properly. They hit more or less the right intervals between notes, but the whole set of notes is too low or high. This must have happened sometimes to Reni live, unless the SR’s monitoring was always perfect, which seems unlikely. Why you would get this in a studio is harder to see, unless he’s singing while playing drums (again unlikely). I wondered if maybe a live or rehearsal outtake had been imported because Reni was available to do fresh studio takes. Anyway, this is a wonderful series, as so many here agree, offering a quality of insight which really helps to account for the general impression made by a recording. Thank you!
Cheers Steve! Yeah I'd love to know what was going on with the backing vocals here. Frustratingly there is just so little behind-the-scenes information on the Roses, and they hardly ever talk to the press unless its to promote a tour or a release. Lots of guesswork is all that's left unfortunately!
I can hear reni on the outtro.... vocal. Also let's make a petition so that every modern electric car starts every morning to the opening 2 mins of love spreads
Class video man Really enjoyed your indept knowledge and critique Keep them coming It's a monster of a tune in fairness And the repeated lyric is mesmerising
Very interesting video! Hate to point out that the liner notes actually say Reni sang backing vocals on Tightrope rather than Mani. To my knowledge Mani never sang any backing vocals. Still a great informative video though!
Really enjoying these videos James. Is there any chance that you could let the main tracks play for another 10 seconds or so, especially the main guitar part/drums/vocal? It'd be great to hear a bit more.....or would it create problems with copyright infringement? Cheers!
Hi Martin - yeah unfortunately I'm risking getting flagged if I use too much stuff. You're actually watching version 2 of this video because the first one DID get flagged. It's a right pain in the bum haha But you can find the isolated stems from the rockband game online for yourself and have a listen. Just search for Stone Roses mogg files
James well pointed out with the backing vocals by Reni. What I read in a Stone Roses book back in the 90s was John Squire was on some Led Zeppelin moment for the Second Coming album. What I gathered he was trying to call it all. Ian Brown said since they have a new record deal with more albums to come. Ian thought let John have his Led Zeppelin moment. Ian confronted John about this saying we're better than Led Zeppelin so we don't need to be a copycat band of them. Sadly of course the follow up album never happened. I think John wanted Reni to drum in different style than Reni wanted to do for this album. Probably with this and Squire on a Led Zep trip Reni had enough. I remember when I bought this album 1st time round to listening to it just couldn't get in to it. Took me three listens before I got into that album. Tightrope is probably the best track for me. Hidden track 99 I think it was, was a bonus too.
Yeah I do like the album, but there's bits on it that I struggle with. The long sections like the opening to Breaking Into Heaven, and lots of the repetitive stuff on Begging You I just found a barrier to appreciating it. I also found the backing vocals really difficult listening throughout - at the beginning of Tightrope especially
James I think they must of wasted so many hours in the recording studio and then given the ultimatum to pick their best songs for the album. Still baffled how Love is the Law wouldn't on the album.
Cheers - yeah I wish we had access to more of the stems for that album! Unfortunately there's really not that much out there for getting below the surface on Morning Glory
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar I figured that was the case! You can tell there's a lot going on there, always thought it was funny that nobody played the lead guitar bits until Gem came along.
Great vid again James, is there not another rhythm track wi squire playing Dm#7 in there too? But my favourite track from sc is Daybreak I think this is Reni’s best Drumming especially when it just Reni part b4 the second verse kicks in again !
Hi TGW. This is using the 'rock band' tracks which are freely available online - the song comes in 4 stems (drums, bass, guitar, everything else) and there are random moments when single stems are exposed, which is how I get the isolated moments
Cheers Alex. It's just the rock band stems - there's just 4 stems, but I just use the occasional moment in them where you can hear one instrument playing in isolation so it sounds like I've got more haha
Hi James! Really love your videos I have an idea for one of the next videos, on be here now tour oasis played in my opinion their best version of Champagne Supernova, and this version got a really magic 4min+ outro, I really wanted to learn it I think it's really beautiful, but I can't find any tabs for it... Maybe you could make a cover of it? Anyway, keep going your videos are great!
The vocals on the made of stone doc are tuned ( melodyn ) to Fuck .... also it’s sounds like the BVs on this song have been put through a eventide harmoizer to thicken them up. Makes it sound pitchy in isolation.
I used to own the banjo used on “the foz”I have no way to prove it ,it was sold to a guitar dealer dude I used to know by aziz ibrahim who he said John squire left it in the rosés rehearsal room after he quit the roses , I sold it for 60 quid when I was on my arse
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Oh right, sorry about that. Here in Australia, we've got Reni on there. Cheers. Please keep up the great videos, I'm really enjoying them.
Ha this is easily the most requested one of these - annoyingly there is just nothing out there to work with. I wish there was access to some of the multitracks from Be Here Now, but there's just nothing out there as of yet
track 17 is not Ian Brown, thats definitely Reni, he did have a high voice but could also do softer lower backing vox, as heard on Going Down and Shoot You Down for example. you can also hear his dinstinctive pronunciation on the word 'queen' .......and also Track 18 is more Reni than Ian Brown, although both voices are in there......and with regards the 'out of tune' bit (which I dont think is out of tune) he's doing that on purpose that over rock voice, which when heard in the track when everything else is in sounds really good and couterpoints Ian Browns smoother vocal....and if it sounds good in the final mix thats all that matters
I wonder if it was Mani who provided that rough, gravelly backing vocal on Tightrope - the one that sounds like the guy from Gomez? It doesn't sound sweet enough to be Reni's mellifluous warble, and the liner notes don't say. It doesn't sound like Squire, I can't see Brown singing like that... all I ever hear is the guy from Gomez. Gomez are great, but on Stone Roses records I want to hear a Stone Rose.
Eh. If you listen to just the vocal tracks isolated the backing vocals suit it well. It’s not meant to be easy listening, it’s got a real dirty tension to it. Listening to Reni’s vocals on their own isn’t the point. It’s what they do under Ian’s main vocal. It sounds a bit unnerving, dangerous. Unlike, say, anything on their first album. That’s the point.
A studio track breakdown for I Am The Resurrection would be equally as good as this....I wonder how many guitar tracks Squire has recorded for that song. You can't really make a video about Love Spreads without Resurrection in my opinion, because they're basically two halves of the same coin 👍
As an album in the sense of musicianship its absolutely superb but its a departure from the eponymous first album? Think we were all expecting the first album mk 2 and Second Coming was so different. In the press this got panned at the time I remember? Everyone in Manchester was waiting for the Roses to save us from Oasis!! Only kidding.
Hahahaha yeah I like Second Coming. It's grown on me alot recently since I started researching Squire a bit more. The only thing that drives me mad about it is the backing vocals. If they did a version with the backing vocals mostly removed and the long extended sprawling instrumentals sections (intro to 'breaking into heaven', much of 'begging you') It would be massively more accessible to my ear
How can one man write so many great guitar riffs? John squire is a genius and this is one of his best riffs. From the kickass blues riffs here, to the dreamy brilliant I wanna be adored, the bright shiny waterfall or she bangs the drums riffs. And yet he's still so underrated
Man got skills
The riff in "I Wanna Be Adored" is taken from "Japanese Boy" by Aneka.
Shtick to the Republic
Cocaine…helluva drug
@@musicl0ver543 Did so much coke he thought he was in Led Zeppelin with those over the top guitar riffs
This is one of the greatest songs ever created
Yes James! More Roses please 👍🏻
Cheers mate, more to come
One of my favourite albums. I love the band’s playing on this. All are on top form, which is surprising judging by the mood of the group at the time. Definitely more of John Squire passion project but I love it nonetheless. Great video 👍
Reni's backing vocals, in my opinion, are done deliberately to create musical tension tension which is resolved later. The Beatles did this a lot too. Sounds great to me
Yeah. They’re not harmonious, pretty backing vocals-that was the first album. This album is dirtier, murkier, nastier. The backing vocals create a devious edge under the main vocals you couldn’t achieve otherwise
Totally agree. It works too well to be bad musicianship.
I was stunned when I heard how bad Reni's BVs were. He's an amazing backing singer normally, as you said
Yeah it’s mental... some people have suggested it’s John S, but I’m not sure
Renis backing on how do you sleep is outstanding one of his best
@@royfletcher9635ahhhh!!!! One of my favorite songs!! ❤
I think they’re great. Listening to them out of context is entirely missing the point. They’re an instrument here, providing edge to the main vocals. Listen in context and it makes Ian sound more dangerous, edgy on this song
Love this James. Keep this series going! Can we get some Manic Street Preachers in the near future? #takebackthecharts
Hi Charles - interesting idea. Definitely a possibility
I’d definitely second that James (and Charles)!
Yeah. Manics sound great.
You have become one of my favorite channels. Thanks for all you do.
Hi James, been loving all your content recently after discovering your channel a few weeks ago. John Squire is my favourite guitarist and I take a lot of inspiration from him, so to have a channel talk in depth about him and other similar players has been fun to see. I'd love it if you had a listen to my band The Verdis. We're coming out of Sheffield and are ready to smash summer with lots of gigs on the way. Keep up the good work!
Hi Max - just had a listen and followed on Spotify. Great job mate!
This is brilliant, thanks so much!
Buzzin to see this, John's playing on this is mega man.
Yeah that dude can play!!
I love these videos they are fascinating. I am a huge music fan and have listened to thousands of tracks but always rank Love Spreads as having the number one guitar riff. I also think the Second Coming is a hugely underrated album. At least 75 per cent of it is superb. That’s a pretty decent percentage 👍
Yeah it's a good album definitely, and Squires guitar work is excellent throughout
One of The Best intros Ever, I love thisTune! Also The Second Coming is A Quality Album! Take away the 13 minutes intro n Its Obviously Better! I think a lot of the fans expected the debut part 2! Cheers James
Cheers Eddy - yeah its a great tune
Another great video James. I need to catch up on where you are up to with your release. I know a lot of producers will have some detuned vocals blended into the mix to thicken the main vocal take. I'm not saying this was the reason for this but it works in the context of the mix.
Hello mate - the CDs are going on sale end of this month! Specific date coming very soon
Great insightful video James. Quite taken aback by how many tracks especially guitar was put down and it makes sense when listening to how full the track is. So many cool things going on. That drum groove is outrageous though I mean, it's totally sick. What a groove machine Reni is and it always sounds so effortless. I've got a copy of the second night of Heaton Park and it sounds like they hadn't ever been away, it sounded that good and IB was in tune for the whole gig which was amazing too. It's just bizarre how he actually can sing in tune then instantly become woeful. I'd love a bit of insight into why he's not consistent live. Cheers James!
Hi JB, yeah the Roses were always good live - and yes, Reni has definitely got the magic!
I only ever saw them in the 2010s but was absolutely amazed how they could nail these tracks live too...for almost 30 years I'd thought Resurrection couldn't possibly impress live compared to the deep album mix, how wrong I was! And the new ending to Fool's Gold in the last round of gigs was killer :O
James any chance you could pm me. I'm after a copy of the roses live and finding it difficult. Thanks in advance.
Always look forward to your videos! Really enjoyed this one!
Awesome, thank you!
Excellent! I’d love more of these to hear if Reni redeems himself with backing vocals on other tracks :)
Yeah Id love to do more on Second Coming, sadly this is the only song I could get isolated stems on
unreal as always James!
Cheers Tom! 👍👍👍
Would be fascinating to hear some Dog Man Star guitar stems if they exist
Think Some times backing vocals that are not perfect or rather bad in solo, can give some energy in certain types of songs/mixes Imo.
Yeah agreed. Some of the Beatles BVs in isolation sound hilarious
Reni BVs.... My thoughts
1. He was taking the mickey out of Ian's often out of tune vocals
2. He has aiming for a 'unison bend' type effect of being slightly sharp to cut through the mix
3. As you said, rough vocal before he quit
Yeah interesting ideas definitely. It's a shame they were always so interview & camera shy as a band, because we know so little about their behind the scenes world
Re: Backing vocals by Reni, he is always _spot on_ so I don’t get that. Maybe it was originally him goofing around and when he left they put it on there on purpose? Lol. Be a shame if they were that petty as to sacrifice their own song and the great backing vocals (by the greatest drummer today) all for a petty fight.
Such a shame. This band should still be going strong. I think John and Ian’s styles blending together is what made them great. Although Second Coming, penned mostly by Squire, has been a fave of mine since it came out.
Love your videos James!
Cheers from America!🇺🇸
Great video! Really enjoyed that
just a few points, i know around the recording of this album there was a lot of turmoil
People think it took 5 years to record it didnt. Recoding started in 93. They couldn’t record due to legal issues.
From some of the bands interviews John quoted as saying that he wanted a drummer that was out of bed before 9pm. The drugs had a big negative impact on the band also around this time. Reni wasnt in a good place. We all know reni has a fantastic voice and even better drummer. And to me that sounds nothing like him. Also the demos for this album were recorded in the rolling stones mobile studio sitting in a pub carpark in N.wales deeside.
Also johns over dubs are played with a strat or a telecaster not the big gold gibson. Hence the different tone.
Great insight into this song
really enjoy your breakdown of my favourite bands 👍
One of my favourite stories is the when oasis recorded DM and toured the whole world, and came back to record MG, the roses were still recording the stone coming
Thanks for the info! Interesting stuff
The BGV on Love Spreads are definitely Squire. If you have listened to his vocals from his solo album it is the same weird nasal twangy delivery. Reni on a bad day would not have put down a vocal like this.
This is the most underrated album ever
Not to me
Its The most Overlooked Album! Personally coz the 13 minutes intro, Tunes like Begging You, Squires Guitars sounding like Jimmy Page n fans expecting the debut part 2! Another one of There's is The Complete Stone Roses which is Another Overlooked Album (Even though its a compilation of there Early stuff/BSides/Singles etc!) It's Another Classic Album for Me!
I'm gradually coming round to appreciating it more. If much of the extended stuff (breaking into heaven intro and loads of begging you) were stripped out, and almost all the backing vocals, I'd like it a hell of alot more. Squires playing it ace on here
@@eddysandland58 complete stone roses was on constant rotation when I was a teenager, it was my favourite (tunes like standing here can't be ignored) probably their most complete album as the title suggests, if we can forgive the clipped version of Resurrection.
@@tastemaker_87 Init man! Honestly I think me n my mates had The Complete on More than their debut! Plus the early Punk & Youthful Tell Me, So Young n Here It Comes! To Standing Here, Something Burning n Hardest Thing In The World! Classic and Personally (coz I was 14 in 95' when this came out & missed the first album n Buzz etc) this for me is as Good as the Debut! Quality Album!
How do you isolate tracks ? Do you need a specific software and file of the song?
During the intro, alongside a similar sounding instrument, i have always heard a vocal harmony singing what sounds like "oooooooh. Make my....". It happens just once and sounds like it was cut off short. I cant find it in the isolated tracks but i cant help hearing it every time the song is played. Once you hear it, you cant miss it.
Its on the original album version only. Not the single at approx 57 seconds. Its so clear once found.
Love to know if anyone else can spot it.
Yep. Something is there. Great shout.
OK I'm gonna be a troublemaker here hahaha
I think you can hear the second slide guitar track. It has an INCREDIBLY human-sounding expression, but nonetheless I think it's a very buried John Squire slide guitar #2
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar im not sure. Before the two words i can hear, there are two very clear vocal, "ooooooooh, ooooooooh" harmonising. More than one voice too. If i time them, then play the guitar tracks, the slide is quite different sounding.
These possible vocal sounds should be clearer if they are guitar sounds by listening to just the guitar tracks isolated, but they are not there.
I love these breakdowns. Thanx. Also, Nick Brine appears on the credits of Be Here Now
Yeah that’s right. Liam smashed his guitar to bits during those sessions so Noel gave Nick the guitar he recorded Wonderwall with to replace the one Liam broke
James...Please please can you make as many of these videos as you can..💙👍
BV's may be a bit pitchy and rough, but throw them in the mix with everything else and they sound great.
Yeah lots of people have said they still like the raw, rough and ready sound of them. Fair play!
Great stuff 👍
Thanks 👍
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Brilliant
Very informative, thank you so much!
That’s a brilliant analysis of the mix, James. It’s really interesting to see how recording philosophy shifts between eras and artists. For this reason I agree with another of your commentators that it would be great if you could do a Manics track. (As regards them, there are US and UK mixes of at least one album which might turn out to have different elements in each). A sideways slant on this might be to look at a Neil Young recording, since he’s generally been committed, along with David Briggs his main early producer, to trying to suggesting something close to a live feel in the studio. This means that mistakes are often left in purposely and the idea of buried tracks would seem a bit strange. Jack White has imitated this with some modifications. I was wondering too about those off-key backing vocals of Reni’s. Whatever the reason, they remind me of something I’ve experienced in live situations. It sounds very much like someone singing who can’t hear themselves properly. They hit more or less the right intervals between notes, but the whole set of notes is too low or high. This must have happened sometimes to Reni live, unless the SR’s monitoring was always perfect, which seems unlikely. Why you would get this in a studio is harder to see, unless he’s singing while playing drums (again unlikely). I wondered if maybe a live or rehearsal outtake had been imported because Reni was available to do fresh studio takes. Anyway, this is a wonderful series, as so many here agree, offering a quality of insight which really helps to account for the general impression made by a recording. Thank you!
Cheers Steve! Yeah I'd love to know what was going on with the backing vocals here. Frustratingly there is just so little behind-the-scenes information on the Roses, and they hardly ever talk to the press unless its to promote a tour or a release. Lots of guesswork is all that's left unfortunately!
I can hear reni on the outtro.... vocal.
Also let's make a petition so that every modern electric car starts every morning to the opening 2 mins of love spreads
My ring tone ever since...almost 2 decades now
Great video James ❤️ never knew at least 18 tracks 😲
Yeah me neither! I had no idea there was so much layered guitar
Class video man
Really enjoyed your indept knowledge and critique
Keep them coming
It's a monster of a tune in fairness
And the repeated lyric is mesmerising
I always loved second coming.
It's a good album 👍👍🎸🎸
Very interesting video! Hate to point out that the liner notes actually say Reni sang backing vocals on Tightrope rather than Mani. To my knowledge Mani never sang any backing vocals. Still a great informative video though!
I really dig Reni's vocals here
Yeah loads of people have commented that!
Really enjoying these videos James. Is there any chance that you could let the main tracks play for another 10 seconds or so, especially the main guitar part/drums/vocal? It'd be great to hear a bit more.....or would it create problems with copyright infringement? Cheers!
Hi Martin - yeah unfortunately I'm risking getting flagged if I use too much stuff. You're actually watching version 2 of this video because the first one DID get flagged. It's a right pain in the bum haha
But you can find the isolated stems from the rockband game online for yourself and have a listen. Just search for Stone Roses mogg files
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Cheers James. Thanks for the reply.
James well pointed out with the backing vocals by Reni. What I read in a Stone Roses book back in the 90s was John Squire was on some Led Zeppelin moment for the Second Coming album. What I gathered he was trying to call it all. Ian Brown said since they have a new record deal with more albums to come. Ian thought let John have his Led Zeppelin moment. Ian confronted John about this saying we're better than Led Zeppelin so we don't need to be a copycat band of them. Sadly of course the follow up album never happened. I think John wanted Reni to drum in different style than Reni wanted to do for this album. Probably with this and Squire on a Led Zep trip Reni had enough.
I remember when I bought this album 1st time round to listening to it just couldn't get in to it. Took me three listens before I got into that album. Tightrope is probably the best track for me. Hidden track 99 I think it was, was a bonus too.
Yeah I do like the album, but there's bits on it that I struggle with. The long sections like the opening to Breaking Into Heaven, and lots of the repetitive stuff on Begging You I just found a barrier to appreciating it. I also found the backing vocals really difficult listening throughout - at the beginning of Tightrope especially
James I think they must of wasted so many hours in the recording studio and then given the ultimatum to pick their best songs for the album. Still baffled how Love is the Law wouldn't on the album.
@@tabeecorr6611 I'm happy John recorded Love Is The Law with The Seahorses and Chris Helme's vocals instead.
Awesome vid as always! Would love one of these for Morning Glory, there's so many layers of guitars there.
Cheers - yeah I wish we had access to more of the stems for that album! Unfortunately there's really not that much out there for getting below the surface on Morning Glory
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar I figured that was the case! You can tell there's a lot going on there, always thought it was funny that nobody played the lead guitar bits until Gem came along.
Brilliant video!!
Thanks!
Again, great work!
Thanks KSF!
Think the auto wah was a zoom unit John also used on driving south
Great vid again James, is there not another rhythm track wi squire playing Dm#7 in there too? But my favourite track from sc is Daybreak I think this is Reni’s best Drumming especially when it just Reni part b4 the second verse kicks in again !
Great breakdown. Can I ask, is this all done by ear, or do you have software that separates the the various tracks?
Hi TGW. This is using the 'rock band' tracks which are freely available online - the song comes in 4 stems (drums, bass, guitar, everything else) and there are random moments when single stems are exposed, which is how I get the isolated moments
Great video ! If you could break down " Tomorrow Never Knows " by The Beatles I would be eternally grateful
Suggestion noted! Sounds tempting
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar there is so much going on ! I"d love to hear Lennon"s isolated vocal after it was put through the Leslie speaker.
Please!
This is great. Where on earth are your stems from?
Cheers Alex. It's just the rock band stems - there's just 4 stems, but I just use the occasional moment in them where you can hear one instrument playing in isolation so it sounds like I've got more haha
Did Yoko Ono perform the backing vocals?
Ian sounds mint of the isolated vocal
The recording they did of this for the Warchild album has the piano a lot louder in the mix. I actually prefer it like that.
Yeah that's a good version
Well done as per usual. ;-)
Thanks UWD!
Hi James! Really love your videos I have an idea for one of the next videos, on be here now tour oasis played in my opinion their best version of Champagne Supernova, and this version got a really magic 4min+ outro, I really wanted to learn it I think it's really beautiful, but I can't find any tabs for it... Maybe you could make a cover of it? Anyway, keep going your videos are great!
Hi PN. Interesting idea, may look into it at some point
The vocals on the made of stone doc are tuned ( melodyn ) to Fuck .... also it’s sounds like the BVs on this song have been put through a eventide harmoizer to thicken them up. Makes it sound pitchy in isolation.
Ah that'll be it. Now that you mention it I do remember hearing the autotune
Great deconstruction, thank you for this. Shame they forgot to write a song, but hey...
What’s your take on their recent split?
I used to own the banjo used on “the foz”I have no way to prove it ,it was sold to a guitar dealer dude I used to know by aziz ibrahim who he said John squire left it in the rosés rehearsal room after he quit the roses , I sold it for 60 quid when I was on my arse
I wonder where it is now
Probably forgotten sitting in some cupboard
@@danielwarren3138 I sold it at the cash generator for 60 quid, I doubt the sales guy retold the story to the next buyer
The fact that those backing vocals are actually on Love Spreads is actually kind of wild
Mani didn't sing on "Tightrope." It was Ian, John and Reni.
Andrew, They made a mistake on the album listings saying it was Mani instead of Reni.
Yeah I've seen both in different pressings! I've seen 'Ian John and Mani' and I've seen 'Ian John and Reni'
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Oh right, sorry about that. Here in Australia, we've got Reni on there. Cheers. Please keep up the great videos, I'm really enjoying them.
How are you able to up the tracks individually this way?
Love a bit ofSQUIRE!🎸
Dude can play 👍👍
If you could find some happy Mondays ones that would be sick
Would love to hear anything from bummed
@@pickybleatinge3744 unreal album
Interesting idea!
where u get dem stems from, brudda?
Could you please do How soon is now by The Smiths. Cheers
Could possibly do 'Stop me if you've heard this one before' by the Smiths?
I always felt like Squire recycled a lot of this for Love is the law.
Yeah he was well and truly in his Jimmy Page phase for most of the 90s
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Defo especially on this Album and The Seahorses! Even live at the Reunion Gigs He was giving Page Moves on Stage!
Imagine a track by track for d'you know what i mean 😂😂
Ha this is easily the most requested one of these - annoyingly there is just nothing out there to work with. I wish there was access to some of the multitracks from Be Here Now, but there's just nothing out there as of yet
@@JamesHargreavesGuitar knowing be here now it could be an hour long video with the amount of tracks they used in that album 😂
I’m hidden in the trees with a pigmy she over there did I just hear that for the first time or is it just me getting it wrong
HA! It's a picnic.... but pygmy would have been WAAY funnier
I thought there could be Ayahuasca in the recording studio for a minute cheers
track 17 is not Ian Brown, thats definitely Reni, he did have a high voice but could also do softer lower backing vox, as heard on Going Down and Shoot You Down for example. you can also hear his dinstinctive pronunciation on the word 'queen' .......and also Track 18 is more Reni than Ian Brown, although both voices are in there......and with regards the 'out of tune' bit (which I dont think is out of tune) he's doing that on purpose that over rock voice, which when heard in the track when everything else is in sounds really good and couterpoints Ian Browns smoother vocal....and if it sounds good in the final mix thats all that matters
I wonder if it was Mani who provided that rough, gravelly backing vocal on Tightrope - the one that sounds like the guy from Gomez? It doesn't sound sweet enough to be Reni's mellifluous warble, and the liner notes don't say. It doesn't sound like Squire, I can't see Brown singing like that... all I ever hear is the guy from Gomez. Gomez are great, but on Stone Roses records I want to hear a Stone Rose.
How do you get that bass sound ? It’s absolutely punchy
No idea! I bet you could google to find out what bass rig he used on the album though
Eh. If you listen to just the vocal tracks isolated the backing vocals suit it well. It’s not meant to be easy listening, it’s got a real dirty tension to it. Listening to Reni’s vocals on their own isn’t the point. It’s what they do under Ian’s main vocal. It sounds a bit unnerving, dangerous. Unlike, say, anything on their first album. That’s the point.
A studio track breakdown for I Am The Resurrection would be equally as good as this....I wonder how many guitar tracks Squire has recorded for that song. You can't really make a video about Love Spreads without Resurrection in my opinion, because they're basically two halves of the same coin 👍
As an album in the sense of musicianship its absolutely superb but its a departure from the eponymous first album? Think we were all expecting the first album mk 2 and Second Coming was so different. In the press this got panned at the time I remember? Everyone in Manchester was waiting for the Roses to save us from Oasis!! Only kidding.
Hahahaha yeah I like Second Coming. It's grown on me alot recently since I started researching Squire a bit more. The only thing that drives me mad about it is the backing vocals. If they did a version with the backing vocals mostly removed and the long extended sprawling instrumentals sections (intro to 'breaking into heaven', much of 'begging you') It would be massively more accessible to my ear
The backing vocal parts you claim are awful are super cool
Reni is a far superior vocalist to Ian.
Second coming is a Way better album than the first , come at me ,I don’t care I’ve moved on from the roses
I don't know if better, different definitely.