Having a pond is easy if you stock the right fish and create the proper ecosystem. It’ll sustain itself. Stock lots of variety of forage, minnows, bluegill and frogs, then put turtles in there to eat the vegetation and put bass in to maintain the baitfish population and the turtles will eat the dead fish and the frogs will eat the bugs. Birds can obviously come and go but they serve a purpose too. I would recommend putting turtles in there for the plants. Do NOT stock carp to eat plants because they’ll take over the pond and overpopulate. They also stir the pond bottom up so much that they make it muddy
Those "lillies" and "water grass" are a blessing. That is what will naturally filter and clarify your water. It also keeps algae in check because they are combating for those nutrients. Your pond is going through a stabilization process. The vegetation is over grown a bit, but like all things in nature, when there's an abundance of something, a natural predator will show up and bring the numbers back down. The fishing line getting caught is indeed a pain, but one way to combat this is on the side you most fish or gather around the water, spread 1" - 2" gravel a couple of inches thick to cover the nutrient rich soil a few feet back in the water. The vegetation won't be able to grow on that side, making realling your catch in, a whole lot less of a hassel, but leave the plants in the rest of the edges to continue to filter your water and create oxygen for your fish. Just don't go in and take it all out. Nature will send in your backup. Give it a chance. Cheers!
Build a pier either by ramming posts into bottom or use some plastic barrels and make a floating deck. It will allow you to get farther out into pond. The plants also allow shade for the fish And allow small fish a place to hide.
I have a simple solution for you - a big long heavy steel cable! I grew up with a circular fishing pond and we owned a couple of other ponds on farming property. Every few years we would drag this big long cable out to the pond and uncoil it. Then we would pull it around the shoreline and connect the two ends together on the tractor so it is a big circle of cable laying in the pond with the two ends up on shore connected to the tractor. Then we pull the tractor away from the pond causing the cable to drag across the floor of the pond and uproot all the vegetation and drag it all up on shore in a big pile... It makes a real mess, it's stinky (especially if you have skunk weed!) but it culls a lot of the vegetation out of the pond in one big swoop. After it dries for a few days, you just come back with the front end loader, pick up all the vegetation and put it in your compost heap. With all the fish poop and rotting vegetation, the compost heap will love it! Your plants and garden will too! It's easy, cheap and doesn't require chemicals! You just have to do it every few years to keep things in check. It's just a big long heavy cable with loops on the end to connect to the tractor... Simple - just the way I like things. We have been doing this since 1962 - it works! Good luck! From Possum Farms - Chappell Hill, Texas.
Actually only poorly designed ponds require a lot of maintenance. Our goal is always zero maintenance. If you haven't learned the plant choking your pond yet, it is called watershield. Cheers!
That's actually really helpful for the fish and it means its a thriving eco system. Removing all the weeds may make it look better or easier to enjoy but not for the fish. My uncle has catfish ponds in S Ga I will tell you what he does. Just burn an old mattress they will be a bunch of springs left after the fire. Cut out a section with wire cutters then tie it to a rope. Throw it in and simply remove a section of weeds to allow fishing access. Leaving the rest to help maintain a healthy food chain in the pond. Cover like this give many bonuses like cleaning the water naturally and giving small fish refuge from bigger fish. I have seen many people wanting a crystal clear pond like I said it may look nice but the fish will not thrive. Its algae and the very bottom of a healthy food chain. It also gives them cover for the sun. In other words I would pick a dingy weed filled pond to fish any day over a clear one. This looks like a perfectly healthy pond to me just needs a section cleared out to allow access.
I can't believe the extension people gave him those advised. Just like they want to kill his pond, kill the fish and turn it into a swimming pool. It is just like taking grass out of your land.
This pond video really annoyed me... "You know what's the most maintenance intensive thing in nature... a pond, it's just like having a pool." That's just the dumbest thing ever... just look at ponds and lakes in nature; is someone doing "pool maintenance" on those? No, no they aren't. Just plant it like a natural water feature.
I see so many of these videos. Makes no sense. I actually grew up in the country and every property had a tank (what other people call ponds). That comment was totally ridiculous. They last for generations with basically no maintenance. The more you mess with them the more you ruin nature.
Bit late to the convo but yeah I agree for the most part but if the pond is man made trees can damage the ponds structure over time like he explained and cause it to leak.
Not all ponds require any maintenance, mine has a fresh water supply and I don't have to do anything in it except trim overhanging limbs, I think having fresh water pouring in at all times keeps it clean
My pond has never had these problems. The builder said the secret to not have weed problems is too have fairly steep sides and deepness. I have good clay bottom and am planting trees around the pond for natural effect. I have worms too because of lots of birds. Thanks for the tips on redear sunfish. I wish I could get some lily pads. Not all ponds are a lot of maintenance. Mine is practically none. The secret is how it is constructed in the first place.
Not all ponds are high maintenance. For those pond lilies take either an old mattress spring or fence panel, fish a rope (by boat) from one end of the pond to the other, hook it to a tractor and drag a swath from one end of the pond to the other.
Lesson from lagoons...(2:55). Too many trees, {even tall weeds}, too close- make it really hard for natural winds to whip up and aerate the water. The shade is great for fishing in the heat, but please allow the air to flow. Creeks are often heavily forested, but there's moving water there. Still water needs air incorporated into it. Thanks.
First: i didn't read all the comments before posting this. I breed snails for commercial aquariums and have often watched them devastate the flora of an aquarium. It's possible your lily-pad explosion is a direct result of the red-eared sunfish's impact on the snail population. It may not seem possible that the snails could consume that much bio-mass but normally they eat the base of plants, severing the photosynthesizing leafy parts from the roots. Resulting in plant death and overgrowth control. These processes normally ebb and flow between states such as- lots of snails (and the accompanying larva) to a state of lily-pad bloom, which in turn provides the food for the cycle to repeat. I'm not saying the introduction of the fish was the cause, simply suggesting it's possible. With the decline of the snail population the red-ears will most likely seek out a new food source and the snails will rebound to an extent. Eventually a state of snail to pad equilibrium might be reached. My suggestion at this point would be slow manual removal of pads. My reasoning: the pads may provide food and protection to the snails. Allowing them to rebound slowly and reach a happy medium sooner than the natural process would allow. Hope this helps.
I don't have a pond. I asked a friend who's dad used to. His suggestion was grass carp and turtles will eat out the grass and lily pads. It might give you a better eco system. And yes, cut the trees back. Interesting about the grubs and the tribulations....makes one appreciate the multitude of issues.
My uncle had a pond when I was growing up. I remember him spending Sundays after church (if football wasn't on) out in his pond in waders pulling lilies and other weeds by the roots to keep it cleaned out.
I've done research to fix one of my old ponds as well, the cheapest and easiest way. (Not digging it out) It's hard to get good information. From what I've read: Start by adding a beneficial bacteria that will decompose the muck on the bottom. You also need to aerate, so the bacteria can perform properly. Also get some grass carp and maybe dye the water to keep plant growth down. Not only will the tree roots break the side walls, but the dead leaves will add nutrients that are unwanted, also why the plants are growing, the nitrogen. (Livestock is the worst for this contamination). Get the trees back to keep out extra nutrients, also keep in mind that plants are important to use up extra nutrients that will pollute the water and fill up pond. Caused from plants, dead animals, animal manure, and also fish excretions. You also might have a problem with too many fish in that small of a pond. There is a certain number of fish you should have per square foot or acre that is acceptable. Anything over that will cause the pond to fill with nutrients, and then not support animal life and only plant life, then fill in.
we have been here 6 years and never have done a thing and it is rocking =) But I will not let any trees grow on the banks like anything, every homestead is different
If you have seen my ponds in our videos I do not have this problem. We use Grass Carp, one in the small pond, and the larger pond has two. The carp are non breeding but check your extension office if you can use them in your area. In Missouri that is the recommendation from MDC. We also use the Red Ears and have no problems with grubs. Great video as always.
Autumn Oaks Farm We also added the Hybrid white amour carp they have had amazing impact on algae (nonexistent now) water clarity is so much better without dye, hate that stuff. The carp will live 12-14 years and grow to about 40lbs or so.
I know some people put grass carp fish in their ponds to keep the vegetation down. Don't know if that would work for your situation or not, but worth looking into.
Like others have said, get an aerator and keep the amount of vegetation from falling into at a minimum (ie cut trees back). Also, some grass carp can help to keep your pond weeds down.
Here is a tip for you. Pick up some free pallets (make sure that the wood is heat treated and contains no harmful chemicals). Get them to float. (Pack them with foam, kids noodles from the dollar store etc. or attach drums). Attach eye hooks to the top. Attach a rope to some eye hooks to make a handle so that they can be positioned and easily retrieved with ropes from the shore. (You need a couple of ropes to position them (otherwise they will float to the shore.) Anchor the ropes to stakes or to a heavy object and throw that over the edge of the dam. Attach a heavy duty sun screening fabric to the floating pallets. That will shade out the plants where they are attached. (In the mud in the shallow water near the shore). After all the plants are killed, cut a hole in the pallet, place a pot filled with coco husks, peat etc. and plant your water filtering and edible or marketable aquaculture plants in the pots. Now you have a filter, a cash crop and floating shelter structure for the fish which allows you to cast and to catch them with no snags as the roots of the plants are floating in the water and not attached to your pond bottom! Tip two: place a pipe from the pond to a manhole in a gazebo or enclosed structure located above or adjacent to the pond. Open the manhole and feed your fish there. Place a grill next to the manhole. Invite some guests. When it’s time to eat, open the manhole, throw in a little chum, drop your lines, haul out the fish, prep and fry! Enjoy! Winter set up. Add a small rocket stove, a TV set and an ice box with a case of beer. Fry up some fish, drink the beer and watch the Super Bowl! (This arrangement works best with an enclosed or semi-enclosed structure). That’s how I do it. Hope that helps!
As to the dead plants. Don’t try to do the entire pond at once, otherwise you will need to add a bubbler or two to prevent the pond from going anaerobic on you (important if you have fish in the pond). I also throw some crayfish in to shred and eat the plant debris and provide food for the fish.
2 things Zack.. first I use a landscape with barb wire wrapped around two times just to snag more and then rake from a john boat. I drag the rake along the bottom and put the foliage in the boat till it fills up dump on bank and repeat. second I would dig a center deeper section where the weeds wont grow and the bigger fish will live on the edges of the weeds and smaller ones will use the weeds as cover with raked spots to fish for the blue gills
mosquito fish and golden shiners are a great addition to any fishing pond. Not sure that they will have any impact on the grass and weeds, but they will give a solid food source for the bass and bluegill. If you could get them to grow, creek chub would be a great way to get bass fat in time to harvest as well. Building the food chain is important.
The kind of pond this dude seems to want is an outside bath tub with fish in it, not an ecosystem like he has. That ecosystem that is developing is a blessing.
Get you a long pvc pipe put one end in deepest spot the other just high enough to let water out. This will let heavier dirty water at bottom out first. That will clear up pond and cut down on lily pads. I could never get bottom layer of water to clear up on frog pond until I put overflow deeper.
I came to RUclips and typed in “building a fish pond” and here I landed!! Looking to build a pond in our pasture and needing tips and what “not” to do.
Some good information. I’m trying to deal with a neglected pond that doesn’t hold water. I have a ton Of trees to clear first. Trees all the way around and in the middle. PIA
If you have any runoff from your livestock it will cause excessive plant growth and throw the pond out of balance. Eutrophication. The plants are there to eat the excessive nutrients and clean the pond water. Leaves from too many trees may act in a similar manner of fertilizer, so keep the edges of the pond clear and some taller trees farther away to cast some afternoon shade onto the pond, I would think. You can manually clear patches for fishing. You should be compost the pulled plants for gardening. If you collect rain water for gardening, you can pump water from the pond to water the garden and replace with the rain water, also. Your pond isn't huge, so it may make a dent in the water quality or help improve the overgrowth of plants situation. I used to stick large cuttings from my gardenias in the edge of the pond, where I lived, to quickly develop roots. I am working on an aquaponics set up, but for now, I just use the fish solids and water to fertilize my in ground garden and replace the water loss with collected rain water. Fish like to have some plants, so they can hide and experience shade and their fry can hide and grow, and the plants produce oxygen. But too many has a negative effect, and their die off removes oxygen instead, and you can get fish die off instead, and it all makes it all worse, maybe to the point of destruction. It is a matter of things getting out of balance and killing a little ecosystem that should be working. I would say plant eating fish like carp, but they also screw up native fish breeding nests, and they don't fully fix the problem that is causing the excessive plant growth. They just treat a symptom and any inputs from that symptom. This I just found may be helpful. It does say, however, to leave the trees and that they are beneficial against runoff problems. www.fairfaxcounty.gov/nvswcd/newsletter/pondproblems.htm
nicely done Zach, adding fish or other species is nearly always preferred if you want to keep it a real life cycle pond. Water snails are a problem all around the world, be thankful you don't live in West Africa, Ginea worms get in the people from snails and the worms (feet long) grow out of every area of people you can imagine, I dealt with that problem for 8 years from the Volta River project. There people were part of the life cycle. Please check if there is a fish, crayfish, freshwater crab that feeds of the plants, they will keep each other in check.
Have you tried putting hydrangea in the pond it will crowd out and kill lily pads but it won't grow all the way to the surface it usually only grows two and a half to 3 ft tall all along the bottom of the pond if you get the right breed of hydrangea it also aerates the pond a lot hydrangea produces a lot of oxygen in the water so your fish especially high energy fish like Bass we'll have a good fight to them and can grow extra large
Some native grasses along the bank will build up a stong root system and secure the walls of the pond. The tree roots may or may not cause more harm depending on the type of tree and root system and the trees proximity to the ponds edge.
would cutting back those trees allow a lot more sunlight into the pond...just wondering if you will end up with an algae bloom then... are you allowed to use floating hyacinth plants there...they will float on top of water and not root anchor to the bottom
You can put in 3 or 4 grass carp and in maybe a year all your weeds will be gone. You can usually buy them off of fish trucks or check where you purchased the red ears
find some garden rakes weld them up together, the panels and wire works well but cant get the roots as well. dont break the dam if you decide to redo it use pvc pipe as a syphon. bentonite is they clay that will seal a leak. not sure if you have a tractor supply but they have meds for fish.
20 years ago an extension agent told me to cut down all my backyard trees. He said they had borers and would die anyway. No treatment possible. Here we are- 2 decades later ( I didn't) . A young one blew over in a bad storm. All the rest are still here and a couple of them are about two ft diameter. Anyway. Extension agents.
When you remove trees and vegetation from around the pond, make fires and burn the brush and deadfall. Then scatter and broadcast the ashes left from the fire over and into the water. Ashes work miracles for ponds. Gods natural way to clean lake and pond water. Charcoal chunks too
Get a large net with heavy weights or 3 strands of bar wire with a poll on each end that will stretch bank to bank. Hook it to a winch and drag the weeds out.
A couple of thoughts - Here in south Florida we had a massive problem with water vegetation that was addressed with carp. Did ever consider raking and composting the water vegetation, turning your problem into a resource. I use a skippy filter on everything from my aquariums to my ponds and have found them to be no maintenance and really enhance the ponds productivity. I think a pond is like organic gardening or permaculture you have to work it but you can achieve a low to no maintenance condition by achieving balance.
M8 those pads r goofd for the pond and the fish. It makes them happy. You can fish the bass with topwater popping frogs. They are made to skip over grass and lili pads
Great video. Ponds are no where even close to maintaining a pool though. They certainly are work if you want a healthy pond, but an in ground pool here in NW Georgia takes about 10-15 hours a week.
Get your water right, fertilize, rake, that should go a long way. Lots of shallow area, do a sediment profile and get an idea of the original depth, maybe the Gov. will let you remove sand/muck w/o to much hassle.
Pond rakes and copper sufate does the trick....those plants have to come out with the roots.....Once that's done it will take years for the plants to re-establish.
The cattle panel drag sounds good I would use a ATV or a pair to drag it back and forth depending on where You could run the ATVs might need some pullies and rope one ATV pulls the panel drag one way and have a slack line hooked to other ATV or put a nylon Tree saver around a strong tree near pound and make the drags of panel cutter in a fan shape I would put some kind of floats on the panel drag so its not always dragging on the bottom distrubing that fertlie zone
we used a cable that when thru the pond and attached it to a truck and yanked bunch out and kept going until it cleared enough. trees are very bad for sidewalls. should be kept at least 20 feet from the sides that I have been told.
shell crackers are always a good fish to have in a pond or lake because they do eat snails . flukes can even infest the livers of cows that drink pond water . you don't want to completely eliminate plants , you just want to control them . grass carp can help , however the most likely issue you are having is that the pond isn't as deep now as it once was . that allows sunlight to penetrate to the bottom more than it did before ...producing more plants . your pond is silting in some raising the level of the bottom . you can dredge it out making the water deeper and that will cut down on the amount of plants that you have automatically by decreasing the amount of sunlight reaching the bottom . you may be able to raise the level of the water by raising the overflow . some ponds have more plants because the water is too clear ...again , allowing more sunlight to hit the bottom . the best way to prevent the water from becoming too clear is to add liquid POND fertilizer to promote the microscopic life that baby fish thrive on . (plankton) having the right amount of plankton in a pond can help cut down on the plants by shading the bottom some from sunlight . you just need to figure out what is actually going on in the pond , first ...before dumping a bunch of chemicals in and hoping for the best .
Nature tries to fill in a pond from day one. Keep the organic material falling in the water to a minimum. Aeration helps. The right bacteria eats the muck on the bottom. etc. etc.
does the pond have running source or is it all drainage from land... thanks for posting and the review... when I was a kid neighbors had a beautiful lake clear water great fishing ...when there business toke off they hired a crew to maintain it. it produced two state record bass about fifty years ago. they introduced controlled fishing made it into a partial pay lake. then canoeing and light boating...it had a very good source. the vegitation was planted. just like anything else when they bought the property they factored in all of that. the place is massive today...the construction company has made billionaires, they bought the property in the fifties. a pond is also a business as well!
@@daviddaigrepont9485 Too bad not 15'. Do you get plants coming to the surface from that deep? Since I made my 4 foot by 18 foot swimming pond rather than inherit it, I inherited no weeds. Crayfish came from somewhere (maybe the kids) and frogs came to it & I stocked it with goldfish. I put in 3 largemouth to keep all these in control. I had bluegill but got rid of them since they think they are sharks and that there was not room enough for people & them.
We used to fish a pond where we often saw the yellow-ish “worms” embedded in the meat of our catch. This pond was severely overcrowded tho I dont know if that was of any consequence. We used to have a rule that of we caught it, we kept it.
would it make a difference what STATE/area you live in as far as it staying natural and LESS maintenance??? I hope to have one in N.C. THANKS. great info
I don't have my own personal pond but there's a private pond in my neighborhood and every year they collect money to get it treated for gunk in the water. I have noticed changes over the years as leaf matter clogs up the shallow areas and thorny bushes invade the shores. It's clearly no easy task
mayhaps... black out plastic over a section to cut off the sunlight???? like you would to rid an area of grass or weeds..use rafts or pontoons to keep plastic just above the water??
You need 1 grass carp (make sure she's not fertilized) to help control the vegetation and some heavy tungsten jigs to punch through the thick grass and get to those big mama bass hiding in there. Also, you need an aerator (grass carp are oxygen suckers for sure).
Those weeds give oxygen and shade and keep the pond cool. They provide shelter and food for other living things in the pond. Ripping the weed out will change the eco system and may starve the fish or even kill them from lack of oxygen or shade etc etc.
i saw a video wish i could link it but it was a few years ago anyway they had an aquaponic micro ecosystem in an IBC tote fish in the tote above the tote they removed a portion of the top and had a tray with holes over it they had plants whose roots went into the water, the roots cleaned the water fed the fish some and they harvested the lettuces and produce from above the tote seemed really interesting its difficult to get a tote that didnt house chemicals but they got ones not tainted and kept several in a pole barn lined up in a row with plants above all of them
Getting rid of trees and get some fresh water clams or mussels.They clear the water free of charge, but they need fish to be their. They have a symbiotic relationship.
You might want to look into "Natural Swimming Ponds" and potentially take inspiration from those ponds. Once you clear out the vegetation, the sun should shine through much easier and if you set up a dog house shed sorta deal with a Car battery and suncell roof to charge the battery, you could power a smaller air pump to circulate water into a gravel bed along one side of your lake where you can grow those lilly vegetation and what not in a controlled manner to form a natural filtration. Should help the maintenance to some degree in terms of controlling the Nutrient levels of the pond. Which is the main reason for such a pond to be capable of growing so wild. It also creates a shallow region where the Fingerlings can hide from the bigger fish.
Interesting thanks for sharing! we use some salt in our fresh water fish tank every water change. Bentonite is the product you use for repairing leaks in ponds.
This pond appears to be neglected and overgrown with trees and obnoxious plant materials. You need to do a major overhaul of the Pond shoreline, so you can have better access for fishing. Fish also love to have Pea Gravel on the Pond bottom as it is a favorite Bedding material for most fish species. My Grandfather always built a big VEE types device with sharpened outer edges to drag around lakes and ponds to destroy bottom connected obnoxious seaweeds. It may take one year of real hard work to get this Pond back into a clean and useful place for fishing. The following years would require much less labor, once you got the major problems under control.
Get a broken hard rake take the head off and tie some construction twine to it. Throw it in and pull it out. If you want some clear water without chemicals throw some blue dye in there so the algae and plants are starved for light.
Enjoying your series a lot, thx. Is your pond natural occurring?, semi-man made?, Is it fed by rain only or is there a creek? I just started watching your vids so I'll prob see the answer in 45 minutes. lol Thanks again.
Having a pond is easy if you stock the right fish and create the proper ecosystem. It’ll sustain itself. Stock lots of variety of forage, minnows, bluegill and frogs, then put turtles in there to eat the vegetation and put bass in to maintain the baitfish population and the turtles will eat the dead fish and the frogs will eat the bugs. Birds can obviously come and go but they serve a purpose too. I would recommend putting turtles in there for the plants. Do NOT stock carp to eat plants because they’ll take over the pond and overpopulate. They also stir the pond bottom up so much that they make it muddy
grass carp must be sterile to buy them, i have 50 of them in my 3 acre and they dont stir up the bottom at all.
Brian yeah I believe he's thinking of common carp because grass carp do the opposite
Those "lillies" and "water grass" are a blessing. That is what will naturally filter and clarify your water. It also keeps algae in check because they are combating for those nutrients. Your pond is going through a stabilization process. The vegetation is over grown a bit, but like all things in nature, when there's an abundance of something, a natural predator will show up and bring the numbers back down. The fishing line getting caught is indeed a pain, but one way to combat this is on the side you most fish or gather around the water, spread 1" - 2" gravel a couple of inches thick to cover the nutrient rich soil a few feet back in the water. The vegetation won't be able to grow on that side, making realling your catch in, a whole lot less of a hassel, but leave the plants in the rest of the edges to continue to filter your water and create oxygen for your fish. Just don't go in and take it all out. Nature will send in your backup. Give it a chance. Cheers!
It also make reeling in the catch a whole lot less of a hassle.
Build a pier either by ramming posts into bottom or use some plastic barrels and make a floating deck. It will allow you to get farther out into pond. The plants also allow shade for the fish And allow small fish a place to hide.
This makes sense. I will note this if we ever build our lake. Thank You!
Love your points! My ducks eat a good portion of Lilly pads as well but like ya said I want them there for water clarity
I have a simple solution for you - a big long heavy steel cable! I grew up with a circular fishing pond and we owned a couple of other ponds on farming property. Every few years we would drag this big long cable out to the pond and uncoil it. Then we would pull it around the shoreline and connect the two ends together on the tractor so it is a big circle of cable laying in the pond with the two ends up on shore connected to the tractor. Then we pull the tractor away from the pond causing the cable to drag across the floor of the pond and uproot all the vegetation and drag it all up on shore in a big pile...
It makes a real mess, it's stinky (especially if you have skunk weed!) but it culls a lot of the vegetation out of the pond in one big swoop. After it dries for a few days, you just come back with the front end loader, pick up all the vegetation and put it in your compost heap. With all the fish poop and rotting vegetation, the compost heap will love it! Your plants and garden will too!
It's easy, cheap and doesn't require chemicals! You just have to do it every few years to keep things in check. It's just a big long heavy cable with loops on the end to connect to the tractor... Simple - just the way I like things.
We have been doing this since 1962 - it works!
Good luck! From Possum Farms - Chappell Hill, Texas.
Could you use a long length of chain with the same results?
Get canoe, get garden rake, paddle and get busy brother. Or swim and pull. ROUNDUP IS NEVER OPTION PEOPLE. God bless you all. Love you guys
Yes, He is.
Actually only poorly designed ponds require a lot of maintenance. Our goal is always zero maintenance.
If you haven't learned the plant choking your pond yet, it is called watershield. Cheers!
That's actually really helpful for the fish and it means its a thriving eco system. Removing all the weeds may make it look better or easier to enjoy but not for the fish. My uncle has catfish ponds in S Ga I will tell you what he does. Just burn an old mattress they will be a bunch of springs left after the fire. Cut out a section with wire cutters then tie it to a rope. Throw it in and simply remove a section of weeds to allow fishing access. Leaving the rest to help maintain a healthy food chain in the pond. Cover like this give many bonuses like cleaning the water naturally and giving small fish refuge from bigger fish.
I have seen many people wanting a crystal clear pond like I said it may look nice but the fish will not thrive. Its algae and the very bottom of a healthy food chain. It also gives them cover for the sun. In other words I would pick a dingy weed filled pond to fish any day over a clear one. This looks like a perfectly healthy pond to me just needs a section cleared out to allow access.
MrSnapy1 Great idea!
I can't believe the extension people gave him those advised. Just like they want to kill his pond, kill the fish and turn it into a swimming pool. It is just like taking grass out of your land.
Wrong evasive weeds In the pond deplete the oxygen and kill fish over time been there
@@firewhenready1970 You ever fished the everglades ? Nothing but weeds and evasive weeds but huge fish....
MrSnapy1 no I haven’t fished there but the body of water is different the ponds are a small concentrated areas the Everglades are large open areas.
The clay to fix leaks is bentonite.. you don't need to break the dam/walls to drain it.. you can install a syphon...
This pond video really annoyed me... "You know what's the most maintenance intensive thing in nature... a pond, it's just like having a pool."
That's just the dumbest thing ever... just look at ponds and lakes in nature; is someone doing "pool maintenance" on those? No, no they aren't.
Just plant it like a natural water feature.
I see so many of these videos. Makes no sense. I actually grew up in the country and every property had a tank (what other people call ponds). That comment was totally ridiculous. They last for generations with basically no maintenance. The more you mess with them the more you ruin nature.
@@jpcampbell hear! hear! 👏
Bit late to the convo but yeah I agree for the most part but if the pond is man made trees can damage the ponds structure over time like he explained and cause it to leak.
Not all ponds require any maintenance, mine has a fresh water supply and I don't have to do anything in it except trim overhanging limbs, I think having fresh water pouring in at all times keeps it clean
I use a pond dye twice a year to keep the sun light from reaching so deep. Works like a charm. Grass carp are fantastic also.
My pond has never had these problems. The builder said the secret to not have weed problems is too have fairly steep sides and deepness. I have good clay bottom and am planting trees around the pond for natural effect. I have worms too because of lots of birds. Thanks for the tips on redear sunfish. I wish I could get some lily pads. Not all ponds are a lot of maintenance. Mine is practically none. The secret is how it is constructed in the first place.
Not all ponds are high maintenance. For those pond lilies take either an old mattress spring or fence panel, fish a rope (by boat) from one end of the pond to the other, hook it to a tractor and drag a swath from one end of the pond to the other.
Lesson from lagoons...(2:55). Too many trees, {even tall weeds}, too close- make it really hard for natural winds to whip up and aerate the water. The shade is great for fishing in the heat, but please allow the air to flow. Creeks are often heavily forested, but there's moving water there. Still water needs air incorporated into it. Thanks.
First: i didn't read all the comments before posting this. I breed snails for commercial aquariums and have often watched them devastate the flora of an aquarium. It's possible your lily-pad explosion is a direct result of the red-eared sunfish's impact on the snail population. It may not seem possible that the snails could consume that much bio-mass but normally they eat the base of plants, severing the photosynthesizing leafy parts from the roots. Resulting in plant death and overgrowth control. These processes normally ebb and flow between states such as- lots of snails (and the accompanying larva) to a state of lily-pad bloom, which in turn provides the food for the cycle to repeat. I'm not saying the introduction of the fish was the cause, simply suggesting it's possible. With the decline of the snail population the red-ears will most likely seek out a new food source and the snails will rebound to an extent. Eventually a state of snail to pad equilibrium might be reached. My suggestion at this point would be slow manual removal of pads. My reasoning: the pads may provide food and protection to the snails. Allowing them to rebound slowly and reach a happy medium sooner than the natural process would allow. Hope this helps.
loved growing up on a property with a pond...didnt realize how lucky i was as a child until now.
I don't have a pond. I asked a friend who's dad used to. His suggestion was grass carp and turtles will eat out the grass and lily pads. It might give you a better eco system. And yes, cut the trees back.
Interesting about the grubs and the tribulations....makes one appreciate the multitude of issues.
My uncle had a pond when I was growing up. I remember him spending Sundays after church (if football wasn't on) out in his pond in waders pulling lilies and other weeds by the roots to keep it cleaned out.
I've done research to fix one of my old ponds as well, the cheapest and easiest way. (Not digging it out) It's hard to get good information. From what I've read: Start by adding a beneficial bacteria that will decompose the muck on the bottom. You also need to aerate, so the bacteria can perform properly. Also get some grass carp and maybe dye the water to keep plant growth down. Not only will the tree roots break the side walls, but the dead leaves will add nutrients that are unwanted, also why the plants are growing, the nitrogen. (Livestock is the worst for this contamination). Get the trees back to keep out extra nutrients, also keep in mind that plants are important to use up extra nutrients that will pollute the water and fill up pond. Caused from plants, dead animals, animal manure, and also fish excretions. You also might have a problem with too many fish in that small of a pond. There is a certain number of fish you should have per square foot or acre that is acceptable. Anything over that will cause the pond to fill with nutrients, and then not support animal life and only plant life, then fill in.
we have been here 6 years and never have done a thing and it is rocking =)
But I will not let any trees grow on the banks
like anything, every homestead is different
WHERE do you live?
OFF GRID with DOUG & STACY allow some trees on the west side
Thanks for all the extra knowledge. This will come in handy. Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
If you have seen my ponds in our videos I do not have this problem. We use Grass Carp, one in the small pond, and the larger pond has two. The carp are non breeding but check your extension office if you can use them in your area. In Missouri that is the recommendation from MDC. We also use the Red Ears and have no problems with grubs. Great video as always.
Autumn Oaks Farm We also added the Hybrid white amour carp they have had amazing impact on algae (nonexistent now) water clarity is so much better without dye, hate that stuff. The carp will live 12-14 years and grow to about 40lbs or so.
I know some people put grass carp fish in their ponds to keep the vegetation down. Don't know if that would work for your situation or not, but worth looking into.
Carp will take over your pond bad idea
We used two old box springs and used a winch to drag them back and for to cut the weeds down. Was a lot of work but was free and it worked
We just started turning out huge built in pool into a pond letting it go all natural good info thanks prepper pam
Thank you sir.....yeah definitely help keep things into perspective....it's just fill it up and put fish in!
Like others have said, get an aerator and keep the amount of vegetation from falling into at a minimum (ie cut trees back). Also, some grass carp can help to keep your pond weeds down.
Carp will take over your pond and kill off your fish.no.good
@@williamturpin1596 grass carp are sterile
Here is a tip for you. Pick up some free pallets (make sure that the wood is heat treated and contains no harmful chemicals). Get them to float. (Pack them with foam, kids noodles from the dollar store etc. or attach drums). Attach eye hooks to the top. Attach a rope to some eye hooks to make a handle so that they can be positioned and easily retrieved with ropes from the shore. (You need a couple of ropes to position them (otherwise they will float to the shore.) Anchor the ropes to stakes or to a heavy object and throw that over the edge of the dam. Attach a heavy duty sun screening fabric to the floating pallets. That will shade out the plants where they are attached. (In the mud in the shallow water near the shore). After all the plants are killed, cut a hole in the pallet, place a pot filled with coco husks, peat etc. and plant your water filtering and edible or marketable aquaculture plants in the pots. Now you have a filter, a cash crop and floating shelter structure for the fish which allows you to cast and to catch them with no snags as the roots of the plants are floating in the water and not attached to your pond bottom! Tip two: place a pipe from the pond to a manhole in a gazebo or enclosed structure located above or adjacent to the pond. Open the manhole and feed your fish there. Place a grill next to the manhole. Invite some guests. When it’s time to eat, open the manhole, throw in a little chum, drop your lines, haul out the fish, prep and fry! Enjoy! Winter set up. Add a small rocket stove, a TV set and an ice box with a case of beer. Fry up some fish, drink the beer and watch the Super Bowl! (This arrangement works best with an enclosed or semi-enclosed structure). That’s how I do it. Hope that helps!
As to the dead plants. Don’t try to do the entire pond at once, otherwise you will need to add a bubbler or two to prevent the pond from going anaerobic on you (important if you have fish in the pond). I also throw some crayfish in to shred and eat the plant debris and provide food for the fish.
2 things Zack.. first I use a landscape with barb wire wrapped around two times just to snag more and then rake from a john boat. I drag the rake along the bottom and put the foliage in the boat till it fills up dump on bank and repeat. second I would dig a center deeper section where the weeds wont grow and the bigger fish will live on the edges of the weeds and smaller ones will use the weeds as cover with raked spots to fish for the blue gills
Lilies help to clean the ammonia from the fish waist. A certain amount is a good sign.
mosquito fish and golden shiners are a great addition to any fishing pond. Not sure that they will have any impact on the grass and weeds, but they will give a solid food source for the bass and bluegill. If you could get them to grow, creek chub would be a great way to get bass fat in time to harvest as well. Building the food chain is important.
The kind of pond this dude seems to want is an outside bath tub with fish in it, not an ecosystem like he has. That ecosystem that is developing is a blessing.
Get you a long pvc pipe put one end in deepest spot the other just high enough to let water out. This will let heavier dirty water at bottom out first. That will clear up pond and cut down on lily pads. I could never get bottom layer of water to clear up on frog pond until I put overflow deeper.
I came to RUclips and typed in “building a fish pond” and here I landed!! Looking to build a pond in our pasture and needing tips and what “not” to do.
Never mind!!! Think I will get chickens instead! 😂 Sounds like a lot of maintenance ~ more than a pool
Some good information. I’m trying to deal with a neglected pond that doesn’t hold water. I have a ton Of trees to clear first. Trees all the way around and in the middle. PIA
If you have any runoff from your livestock it will cause excessive plant growth and throw the pond out of balance. Eutrophication. The plants are there to eat the excessive nutrients and clean the pond water. Leaves from too many trees may act in a similar manner of fertilizer, so keep the edges of the pond clear and some taller trees farther away to cast some afternoon shade onto the pond, I would think.
You can manually clear patches for fishing. You should be compost the pulled plants for gardening. If you collect rain water for gardening, you can pump water from the pond to water the garden and replace with the rain water, also. Your pond isn't huge, so it may make a dent in the water quality or help improve the overgrowth of plants situation.
I used to stick large cuttings from my gardenias in the edge of the pond, where I lived, to quickly develop roots. I am working on an aquaponics set up, but for now, I just use the fish solids and water to fertilize my in ground garden and replace the water loss with collected rain water.
Fish like to have some plants, so they can hide and experience shade and their fry can hide and grow, and the plants produce oxygen. But too many has a negative effect, and their die off removes oxygen instead, and you can get fish die off instead, and it all makes it all worse, maybe to the point of destruction.
It is a matter of things getting out of balance and killing a little ecosystem that should be working. I would say plant eating fish like carp, but they also screw up native fish breeding nests, and they don't fully fix the problem that is causing the excessive plant growth. They just treat a symptom and any inputs from that symptom.
This I just found may be helpful. It does say, however, to leave the trees and that they are beneficial against runoff problems. www.fairfaxcounty.gov/nvswcd/newsletter/pondproblems.htm
A natural solution to the vegetation issue is to introduce crayfish. They will also serve as a good forage item for the bass.
nicely done Zach, adding fish or other species is nearly always preferred if you want to keep it a real life cycle pond. Water snails are a problem all around the world, be thankful you don't live in West Africa, Ginea worms get in the people from snails and the worms (feet long) grow out of every area of people you can imagine, I dealt with that problem for 8 years from the Volta River project. There people were part of the life cycle.
Please check if there is a fish, crayfish, freshwater crab that feeds of the plants, they will keep each other in check.
Have you tried putting hydrangea in the pond it will crowd out and kill lily pads but it won't grow all the way to the surface it usually only grows two and a half to 3 ft tall all along the bottom of the pond if you get the right breed of hydrangea it also aerates the pond a lot hydrangea produces a lot of oxygen in the water so your fish especially high energy fish like Bass we'll have a good fight to them and can grow extra large
Some native grasses along the bank will build up a stong root system and secure the walls of the pond. The tree roots may or may not cause more harm depending on the type of tree and root system and the trees proximity to the ponds edge.
Glad I saw this before building a pond. Definitely need to rethink the strategy.
would cutting back those trees allow a lot more sunlight into the pond...just wondering if you will end up with an algae bloom then...
are you allowed to use floating hyacinth plants there...they will float on top of water and not root anchor to the bottom
If you build you pond right in the right place with the right design it can be as easy filling it with water and then filling it with fish.
You can put in 3 or 4 grass carp and in maybe a year all your weeds will be gone. You can usually buy them off of fish trucks or check where you purchased the red ears
find some garden rakes weld them up together, the panels and wire works well but cant get the roots as well. dont break the dam if you decide to redo it use pvc pipe as a syphon. bentonite is they clay that will seal a leak. not sure if you have a tractor supply but they have meds for fish.
20 years ago an extension agent told me to cut down all my backyard trees. He said they had borers and would die anyway. No treatment possible.
Here we are- 2 decades later ( I didn't) . A young one blew over in a bad storm. All the rest are still here and a couple of them are about two ft diameter. Anyway. Extension agents.
When you remove trees and vegetation from around the pond, make fires and burn the brush and deadfall. Then scatter and broadcast the ashes left from the fire over and into the water. Ashes work miracles for ponds. Gods natural way to clean lake and pond water. Charcoal chunks too
EXCELLENT!! I have been wanting a pond and you have given me a ton to think about. Thank you! - Mike
Wow Zach! Thank you very much for this! I really am looking forward to the update on the parasite!
Get a large net with heavy weights or 3 strands of bar wire with a poll on each end that will stretch bank to bank. Hook it to a winch and drag the weeds out.
Great info in video and in the comments, thanks to everyone!
I had no idea there was that much maintenance involved in keeping a pond. Good video!
Stay away from "Round-up" or any chemicals.
Use a jon boat and a trimmer or a pole saw and cut them at the base. After that add dye to prevent sunlight reaching the bottom
A couple of thoughts - Here in south Florida we had a massive problem with water vegetation that was addressed with carp. Did ever consider raking and composting the water vegetation, turning your problem into a resource. I use a skippy filter on everything from my aquariums to my ponds and have found them to be no maintenance and really enhance the ponds productivity. I think a pond is like organic gardening or permaculture you have to work it but you can achieve a low to no maintenance condition by achieving balance.
Spread a few cups of Hardwood Ash on the pond surface, it will eradicate most if not all of the aquatic growth.
M8 those pads r goofd for the pond and the fish. It makes them happy. You can fish the bass with topwater popping frogs. They are made to skip over grass and lili pads
Thank you so much for very helpful video. God bless your family .
Great video. Ponds are no where even close to maintaining a pool though. They certainly are work if you want a healthy pond, but an in ground pool here in NW Georgia takes about 10-15 hours a week.
another option to clear it out is using a timber chain with a rope on each end and drag through the pond vegetation. hard work but worth it.
Good for you.....no chemicals!!!!
Get your water right, fertilize, rake, that should go a long way. Lots of shallow area, do a sediment profile and get an idea of the original depth, maybe the Gov. will let you remove sand/muck w/o to much hassle.
Pond rakes and copper sufate does the trick....those plants have to come out with the roots.....Once that's done it will take years for the plants to re-establish.
Thanks for the video, I’m sure it’s save someone a ton of money and headaches
Thank you for sharing. It’s very useful
The cattle panel drag sounds good I would use a ATV or a pair to drag it back and forth depending on where You could run the ATVs might need some pullies and rope one ATV pulls the panel drag one way and have a slack line hooked to other ATV or put a nylon Tree saver around a strong tree near pound and make the drags of panel cutter in a fan shape
I would put some kind of floats on the panel drag so its not always dragging on the bottom distrubing that fertlie zone
I appreciate informative videos like this.
Lilly pads will destroy any pond. They cover the surface and if the pond is 5’ deep or less they will grow across the entire surface
Great info. I hope to have my own fish pond one day soon.
we used a cable that when thru the pond and attached it to a truck and yanked bunch out and kept going until it cleared enough. trees are very bad for sidewalls. should be kept at least 20 feet from the sides that I have been told.
shell crackers are always a good fish to have in a pond or lake because they do eat snails . flukes can even infest the livers of cows that drink pond water . you don't want to completely eliminate plants , you just want to control them . grass carp can help , however the most likely issue you are having is that the pond isn't as deep now as it once was . that allows sunlight to penetrate to the bottom more than it did before ...producing more plants . your pond is silting in some raising the level of the bottom . you can dredge it out making the water deeper and that will cut down on the amount of plants that you have automatically by decreasing the amount of sunlight reaching the bottom . you may be able to raise the level of the water by raising the overflow . some ponds have more plants because the water is too clear ...again , allowing more sunlight to hit the bottom . the best way to prevent the water from becoming too clear is to add liquid POND fertilizer to promote the microscopic life that baby fish thrive on . (plankton) having the right amount of plankton in a pond can help cut down on the plants by shading the bottom some from sunlight . you just need to figure out what is actually going on in the pond , first ...before dumping a bunch of chemicals in and hoping for the best .
Try setting up a "Texas Rig" on a fake worm to deal with weeds. We have to use them up north for fishing a lot.
Nature tries to fill in a pond from day one. Keep the organic material falling in the water to a minimum. Aeration helps. The right bacteria eats the muck on the bottom. etc. etc.
Thanks for snapping us back to reality! Lol
A lot to research before we dig that dream pond.
Love the videos, keep em' going!
Karen & Brent
does the pond have running source or is it all drainage from land...
thanks for posting and the review...
when I was a kid neighbors had a beautiful lake clear water great fishing ...when there business toke off they hired a crew to maintain it. it produced two state record bass about fifty years ago. they introduced controlled fishing made it into a partial pay lake. then canoeing and light boating...it had a very good source. the vegitation was planted. just like anything else when they bought the property they factored in all of that.
the place is massive today...the construction company has made billionaires, they bought the property in the fifties. a pond is also a business as well!
We put an aerator in ours and we have no maintenance at all. Clear water and plenty of fish. We've had this pond since 1989.
How deep is it?
john 5-6' at the deep end
@@daviddaigrepont9485 Too bad not 15'. Do you get plants coming to the surface from that deep? Since I made my 4 foot by 18 foot swimming pond rather than inherit it, I inherited no weeds. Crayfish came from somewhere (maybe the kids) and frogs came to it & I stocked it with goldfish. I put in 3 largemouth to keep all these in control. I had bluegill but got rid of them since they think they are sharks and that there was not room enough for people & them.
Great Info video, thanks I'm planning on digging a pond on the camp where I have a low damp area.
We used to fish a pond where we often saw the yellow-ish “worms” embedded in the meat of our catch. This pond was severely overcrowded tho I dont know if that was of any consequence. We used to have a rule that of we caught it, we kept it.
would it make a difference what STATE/area you live in as far as it staying natural and LESS maintenance??? I hope to have one in N.C. THANKS. great info
I don't have my own personal pond but there's a private pond in my neighborhood and every year they collect money to get it treated for gunk in the water. I have noticed changes over the years as leaf matter clogs up the shallow areas and thorny bushes invade the shores. It's clearly no easy task
Do the birds eat the raked vegetation? Your due diligence is always spot on.
This is so interesting!!! Thanks for sharing!!
Those birds are territorial, you can use decoys to keep them out
mayhaps... black out plastic over a section to cut off the sunlight???? like you would to rid an area of grass or weeds..use rafts or pontoons to keep plastic just above the water??
You need 1 grass carp (make sure she's not fertilized) to help control the vegetation and some heavy tungsten jigs to punch through the thick grass and get to those big mama bass hiding in there. Also, you need an aerator (grass carp are oxygen suckers for sure).
Those weeds give oxygen and shade and keep the pond cool. They provide shelter and food for other living things in the pond.
Ripping the weed out will change the eco system and may starve the fish or even kill them from lack of oxygen or shade etc etc.
Bentonite Clay, No trees on dams. Blue Herons and Cranes.
Or just enjoy having a water source for wild life.
Extensions are the best! Everybody should use them!
i saw a video wish i could link it but it was a few years ago anyway they had an aquaponic micro ecosystem in an IBC tote fish in the tote above the tote they removed a portion of the top and had a tray with holes over it they had plants whose roots went into the water, the roots cleaned the water fed the fish some and they harvested the lettuces and produce from above the tote
seemed really interesting its difficult to get a tote that didnt house chemicals but they got ones not tainted and kept several in a pole barn lined up in a row with plants above all of them
Had no idea pond like a pool! I know that is a pain. No idea about trees either weakening the walls. Had no idea, thanks.
Getting rid of trees and get some fresh water clams or mussels.They clear the water free of charge, but they need fish to be their. They have a symbiotic relationship.
Thanks for the heads up
You might want to look into "Natural Swimming Ponds" and potentially take inspiration from those ponds. Once you clear out the vegetation, the sun should shine through much easier and if you set up a dog house shed sorta deal with a Car battery and suncell roof to charge the battery, you could power a smaller air pump to circulate water into a gravel bed along one side of your lake where you can grow those lilly vegetation and what not in a controlled manner to form a natural filtration.
Should help the maintenance to some degree in terms of controlling the Nutrient levels of the pond. Which is the main reason for such a pond to be capable of growing so wild. It also creates a shallow region where the Fingerlings can hide from the bigger fish.
thank you for the information.
Interesting thanks for sharing! we use some salt in our fresh water fish tank every water change. Bentonite is the product you use for repairing leaks in ponds.
Bentonite is a form of clay?
How do you use it to repair the leaks?
Very informative video brother.
Once the shell cracker take care of the problem u can't eat them after they would be full of worm's right?
This pond appears to be neglected and overgrown with trees and obnoxious plant materials. You need to do a major overhaul of the Pond shoreline, so you can have better access for fishing. Fish also love to have Pea Gravel on the Pond bottom as it is a favorite Bedding material for most fish species. My Grandfather always built a big VEE types device with sharpened outer edges to drag around lakes and ponds to destroy bottom connected obnoxious seaweeds. It may take one year of real hard work to get this Pond back into a clean and useful place for fishing. The following years would require much less labor, once you got the major problems under control.
Get a broken hard rake take the head off and tie some construction twine to it. Throw it in and pull it out. If you want some clear water without chemicals throw some blue dye in there so the algae and plants are starved for light.
You could try using an old chain link fence too... I have seen some folks doing that too.
Enjoying your series a lot, thx. Is your pond natural occurring?, semi-man made?, Is it fed by rain only or is there a creek? I just started watching your vids so I'll prob see the answer in 45 minutes. lol Thanks again.