"This are just for gaming" and he just went and painted them better than I would do a full scale one xD. Jokes aside, they look great and I'm really looking forward to getting some for myself!
Nice Video! I think that the stretched Bolters aren’t that bad, if you have to zoom in with your camera to see it, I don’t think it’s that much an issue in person.
No, it's really better that they leave this with a secondary game (like HH/30k) which doesn't risk cannibalizing the main product. It's also much easier for them to make the models, as literally every player can use the same kits. They simply don't have the production capability to release a range for 16 non Space Marines factions, fully supported, while also doing 40k, and AoS, and HH, and Old World, and all of their other specialist game. This game is about humans and Marines. The End.
@@saltedllama2759 I always see that argument and it ignores the fact that like, it WOULDNT be 16 factions, it'd be 3. Space marines, Orks, and Eldar are basically the 3 lodestones of 40k, the most widely collected and loved armies, and the most instantly recognisable by everyone, each with very different army philosophies and aesthetics. Sure if LI hit it off they might try releasing more factions as allies or something, but those 3 alone would be plenty. Space Marines vs Orks as the launch box, release an Eldar box six months down the line. The real reason its set in 30k is because 30k players will pay 8 trillion pounds for a skirmish army. If they ACTUALLY were afraid of extra factions splitting the cashbase they could have just continued to make it marine vs Marine :D
@@Dorsidwarf I've held off buying this purely because its W30K. For me playing battles with huge armies of Imperial, Chaos or Xenos factions is a fantastic thing to behold and the main reason I got into this hobby. The moment a W40K version of this gets released I wouldn't hesitate in buying it.
If you look at how they historically released the original game, if this version is successful, I think you will find they will eventually release Xenos into the game.
Great looking army, It seems like a nice scale for sci-fi, 6mm fits historical better to me, bigger armies on the table, specially ancients. This scale seems like a better match for 40k and their huge war machines. I'm very into 15mm atm and as a modeller first: "if I see it I paint it", I really enjoy going the extra mile with the smaller scales, it pays off imo.
Can’t wait sadly I can’t make it because I have school but I know it will be awesome like all his other content. His is a amazing painter. Cheero chaps
Thank you veryy much for the showcase Richard, can't wait to get my box :) I have a question, what are your base colors for your yellow ? I tend to go pink first, but I find it is a lil too warm in the end Kind regards Suki
I feel GW intentionally didn't show the issue angles with the infantry. Omly allowing us to properly see with the boxed set reviewers that went live when pre-orders were already being purchased. Really scummy move GW. They should of made the poses less dynamic if such crude looks to half or more of the bolter armed infantry was the result of having less dynamic poses. GW have no excuses, whoever gave them the go-ahead with them minis looking so warped seriously needs reprimanding. Allowing people to spend quite a fair bit of money with GW knowing these particular minis looked so bad could honestly irritate enough people to not buy more into this. I'm shocked they allowed this. I have 3D sculpts printed off thst details wise sre the same, if not better in some ways. Waaaay cheaper snd without the defects. Yet I chose to support the new Epic range so they'd do more. Now how silly I feel. If they release other infantry armour version types with these issues fixed at least for those i can at least get those and suport those.
Really bummed there's not an option for Titan legions, or any xenos races for that matter. I loved epic and have fond memories of playing with Eldar and orks, and I did a whole forge world titan legion when the early 2000s version of epic came out. I get heresy is big but this is gonna be a pass from me
There’s still an active epic scene in the UK for the previous edition of Epic (Epic Armageddon) with 10 or so tournaments a year if you happen to be a UK person too. Plenty of third party and 3d print ranges available these days for epic orks, eldar, etc. Can play a vastly wider range of armies at epic tournaments then just 30k human all the time - epic nids, necrons, sisters of battle, tau, titan legion, etc.
A titan legion would be stupid because unless someone else took one it would be completely unfair, as none of the infantry could do anything to hurt the titans and the titans couldn't capture objectives. If you want to play with Titans, play Adeptus Titanicus. Original Epic started off as Heresy.
FYI:The old epic models were 6mm and the new legio imperialis models are 9mm. The 9mm models come on 25mm circular reduced height bases. You could use standard 25mm bases on your old epic models to make them match height.
@@Jezza_One The 1/4 of 40k scale, which itself is not a consistent scale. But scale is often measured to the eye, and the nuEpic models are about 7.0 to 7.5mm to the eye (for humans) and 8.0 to 8.5mm to the eye (for marines).
@@wolfie54321 Yeh, that was my take on it. GW have said back around the release of Adeptus Titanicus that the scale was "1/4 of 40k" so depending on if you think 40k is a 28mm or 32mm (seems to be some debate on that?) it means "New Epic" is either 7mm or 8mm (Im inclined towards 7mm).
@@stingray4567they’ve said it’s 8mm and the regular humans in the game are 8mm tall so that matches to me. Obviously marines are taller as they’re meant to be.
@@glyngreen538 Oh really? Where have they said that? Do you have a link? The only "official" comment Id ever seen from GW was back during the Adeptus Titanicus release when stated it was 1/4 size of 40k?
The stretched bolters put me off this set completely. It might be a minor thing, but if I'm paying premium prices I expect apremium product. I can't understand how these passed quality control when the 3d printed market have so many wonderful sculpts available. A real blunder.
Same is was eager to take the box but damn when I saw the photos of the marines … that turned me off completely, ill probably wait to get the vehicles and 3D print all the infantry, they are some amazing models out there incredibly detailed.
We’ve been looking at photos of these minis for months and only now noticed it when someone put a macro lens on it. They’re so small it’s really not a big deal. You’re not looking at them with a zoom lens in real life
Im so torn on this release. I LOVE Epic more than any other GW game but theyve made so many fundamental mistakes here; 1. Its 30k and not 40k: I want xenos! I play xenos! 2. Price: always a GW issue... these models are PAINFULLY expensive. I already have STLs for every epic model I could want, so why would I pay crazy money for these? 3. They changed the scale: Now my existing collection of epic models look weird/mis scaled next to the new ones (another reason to prefer 3d printed...). 4. The Name: "Legiones Imperialis" has to be the worst, most confusing, most unforgettable name GW has ever come up with. Its called "Epic"! Why does GW always give with one hand while taking away with the other?
The price is absolutely an issue. Sure, the shiller content creators that get the models for free won't mind, but for the rest of us it's fairly obscene - even by GW standards.
Just buy the rules and the terrain. Keep playing and printing your own miniatures. I’ve a huge collection of old 8mm scale metal forumware marines, so that’s what I’m doing!
I'm not paid, the models are just sent for free. I don't get any benefit for reviewing them. Also, you clearly didn't watch the video as I went into detail along with close-up shots of the marines
Nice Video! I think that the stretched Bolters aren’t that bad, if you have to zoom in with your camera to see it, I don’t think it’s that much an issue in person.
Those paint jobs are just stunning! I am very excited to get my tanks, especially those Russes
"This are just for gaming" and he just went and painted them better than I would do a full scale one xD. Jokes aside, they look great and I'm really looking forward to getting some for myself!
Tanks are lovely. Would definitely like to see a how to paint video if you get time
Nicely painted IF models. Thanks for sharing. I cant wait to get my LI miniatures in about 2 weeks...
Nice Video! I think that the stretched Bolters aren’t that bad, if you have to zoom in with your camera to see it, I don’t think it’s that much an issue in person.
stunning paint jobs on these, if only they set it in 40k so those of us into xenos might have something they want.
No, it's really better that they leave this with a secondary game (like HH/30k) which doesn't risk cannibalizing the main product. It's also much easier for them to make the models, as literally every player can use the same kits. They simply don't have the production capability to release a range for 16 non Space Marines factions, fully supported, while also doing 40k, and AoS, and HH, and Old World, and all of their other specialist game. This game is about humans and Marines. The End.
@@saltedllama2759 I always see that argument and it ignores the fact that like, it WOULDNT be 16 factions, it'd be 3. Space marines, Orks, and Eldar are basically the 3 lodestones of 40k, the most widely collected and loved armies, and the most instantly recognisable by everyone, each with very different army philosophies and aesthetics. Sure if LI hit it off they might try releasing more factions as allies or something, but those 3 alone would be plenty. Space Marines vs Orks as the launch box, release an Eldar box six months down the line.
The real reason its set in 30k is because 30k players will pay 8 trillion pounds for a skirmish army. If they ACTUALLY were afraid of extra factions splitting the cashbase they could have just continued to make it marine vs Marine :D
@@Dorsidwarf I've held off buying this purely because its W30K. For me playing battles with huge armies of Imperial, Chaos or Xenos factions is a fantastic thing to behold and the main reason I got into this hobby. The moment a W40K version of this gets released I wouldn't hesitate in buying it.
If you look at how they historically released the original game, if this version is successful, I think you will find they will eventually release Xenos into the game.
@@Captinsaneo I really hope so. Think it'll be awesome
Great looking army, It seems like a nice scale for sci-fi, 6mm fits historical better to me, bigger armies on the table, specially ancients.
This scale seems like a better match for 40k and their huge war machines.
I'm very into 15mm atm and as a modeller first: "if I see it I paint it", I really enjoy going the extra mile with the smaller scales, it pays off imo.
Great job, look brilliant those. Would love a guide, even if its just in form of a reply (what base coat and method used etc for details/weathering).
I'll have a video out for them!
Can’t wait sadly I can’t make it because I have school but I know it will be awesome like all his other content. His is a amazing painter. Cheero chaps
They look amazing. Now do Blood Angels!!!
Plz.
Would love to see some of your titans alongside these!!
Thank you veryy much for the showcase Richard, can't wait to get my box :)
I have a question, what are your base colors for your yellow ? I tend to go pink first, but I find it is a lil too warm in the end
Kind regards
Suki
Your work really is beautiful
I feel GW intentionally didn't show the issue angles with the infantry. Omly allowing us to properly see with the boxed set reviewers that went live when pre-orders were already being purchased.
Really scummy move GW.
They should of made the poses less dynamic if such crude looks to half or more of the bolter armed infantry was the result of having less dynamic poses.
GW have no excuses, whoever gave them the go-ahead with them minis looking so warped seriously needs reprimanding.
Allowing people to spend quite a fair bit of money with GW knowing these particular minis looked so bad could honestly irritate enough people to not buy more into this.
I'm shocked they allowed this.
I have 3D sculpts printed off thst details wise sre the same, if not better in some ways. Waaaay cheaper snd without the defects.
Yet I chose to support the new Epic range so they'd do more.
Now how silly I feel.
If they release other infantry armour version types with these issues fixed at least for those i can at least get those and suport those.
Love epic and the large scale games. This looks amazing
Wow m8! looks awesome! you really must make a videoguide about how to paint em and what colours ur using.
The tanks do look lovely
I don't know if I would have to play this, but it would be fun to build a diorama with smol marines 😊
Really bummed there's not an option for Titan legions, or any xenos races for that matter. I loved epic and have fond memories of playing with Eldar and orks, and I did a whole forge world titan legion when the early 2000s version of epic came out.
I get heresy is big but this is gonna be a pass from me
There’s a lot less commitment by doing heresy, like doing over 4x less work,
There’s still an active epic scene in the UK for the previous edition of Epic (Epic Armageddon) with 10 or so tournaments a year if you happen to be a UK person too. Plenty of third party and 3d print ranges available these days for epic orks, eldar, etc. Can play a vastly wider range of armies at epic tournaments then just 30k human all the time - epic nids, necrons, sisters of battle, tau, titan legion, etc.
A titan legion would be stupid because unless someone else took one it would be completely unfair, as none of the infantry could do anything to hurt the titans and the titans couldn't capture objectives.
If you want to play with Titans, play Adeptus Titanicus.
Original Epic started off as Heresy.
I'm pretty hyped for the new Epic.
Just have to figure out how that new store works to get em xD
Beautiful paint jobs, are you sure these aren’t 28mm models??
Fantastic work as always you legend!!
Look really good. Love the paintwork. How long is the Kratos model in this?
Here from poorhammer. Heard you are a prodigy.
Hey mate these look awesome, thinking of doing a tutorial?
I've got a couple on my patreon, but I'll be doing more for RUclips too.
FYI:The old epic models were 6mm and the new legio imperialis models are 9mm. The 9mm models come on 25mm circular reduced height bases. You could use standard 25mm bases on your old epic models to make them match height.
I thought they were 8mm like Titanicus and Aeronautica which have compatable models
@@Jezza_One The 1/4 of 40k scale, which itself is not a consistent scale. But scale is often measured to the eye, and the nuEpic models are about 7.0 to 7.5mm to the eye (for humans) and 8.0 to 8.5mm to the eye (for marines).
@@wolfie54321 Yeh, that was my take on it. GW have said back around the release of Adeptus Titanicus that the scale was "1/4 of 40k" so depending on if you think 40k is a 28mm or 32mm (seems to be some debate on that?) it means "New Epic" is either 7mm or 8mm (Im inclined towards 7mm).
@@stingray4567they’ve said it’s 8mm and the regular humans in the game are 8mm tall so that matches to me. Obviously marines are taller as they’re meant to be.
@@glyngreen538 Oh really? Where have they said that? Do you have a link? The only "official" comment Id ever seen from GW was back during the Adeptus Titanicus release when stated it was 1/4 size of 40k?
Richard Gray battle report when?
I'm not really set up to record them, but I might have a go once I've got enough painted 😬
@@demonrich A team up with another YT channel perhaps?
The stretched bolters put me off this set completely. It might be a minor thing, but if I'm paying premium prices I expect apremium product. I can't understand how these passed quality control when the 3d printed market have so many wonderful sculpts available. A real blunder.
I'm amazed they made it past QA.
Print everything as you say.
Edited.
It isn’t a small thing. This should be a turn off for anyone who isn’t dead on the inside.
Darn I've preordered, suppose i could scalp the marines as I've a printer, propke havnet been saying if the solar have the same issue.
Same is was eager to take the box but damn when I saw the photos of the marines … that turned me off completely, ill probably wait to get the vehicles and 3D print all the infantry, they are some amazing models out there incredibly detailed.
We’ve been looking at photos of these minis for months and only now noticed it when someone put a macro lens on it. They’re so small it’s really not a big deal. You’re not looking at them with a zoom lens in real life
Im so torn on this release. I LOVE Epic more than any other GW game but theyve made so many fundamental mistakes here;
1. Its 30k and not 40k: I want xenos! I play xenos!
2. Price: always a GW issue... these models are PAINFULLY expensive. I already have STLs for every epic model I could want, so why would I pay crazy money for these?
3. They changed the scale: Now my existing collection of epic models look weird/mis scaled next to the new ones (another reason to prefer 3d printed...).
4. The Name: "Legiones Imperialis" has to be the worst, most confusing, most unforgettable name GW has ever come up with. Its called "Epic"!
Why does GW always give with one hand while taking away with the other?
Interestingly, the infantry mold issues are somethinng the original epic infantry suffered with too.
Its the nubs between the feet that I hate more
The price is absolutely an issue.
Sure, the shiller content creators that get the models for free won't mind, but for the rest of us it's fairly obscene - even by GW standards.
The 30k setting makes sense from a conservative businessman standpoint
Just buy the rules and the terrain. Keep playing and printing your own miniatures.
I’ve a huge collection of old 8mm scale metal forumware marines, so that’s what I’m doing!
@@davidwasilewski Yeh, thats a great idea and likely what I'll do
the marines would not be as bad if GW did not say that they make the best models in the world all the time
What??? No, GW has given the exact scale! 12.5mm
The game is 8mm scale or 1/4 or 40ks’s 32mm scale.
Ah, paid promotion. No wonder that 3x less plastic then Dominion for same price and terrible artifacts on minis are no problem for this rewiever.
I'm not paid, the models are just sent for free. I don't get any benefit for reviewing them. Also, you clearly didn't watch the video as I went into detail along with close-up shots of the marines
@@demonrich And you said its not a big problem, talking about table perspective. I know, i saw that, sadly.
Nice Video! I think that the stretched Bolters aren’t that bad, if you have to zoom in with your camera to see it, I don’t think it’s that much an issue in person.
For a 15 € or 15 $ box , yeah this is not too bad.
It would bé a shame if GW asked more.