Heinkel He-162 in Combat (How Well Did The 'People's Fighter' Actually Do?)

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  • Опубликовано: 1 мар 2024
  • Heinkel He-162, known as 'Volksjäger' or 'People's Fighter' was one of Germany's last ditch efforts to turn the tide of war. Plenty of videos on YT talk about it's development, intended role, manufacturing etc but there's very little about the type's actual combat record. Did it achieve anything in those last days of WWII? Find out in this video.
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  • @jamesrogers5783
    @jamesrogers5783 2 месяца назад +171

    i actually met a 162 driver decades ago on the airshow road. he was one of the youths --an 18 YO that was tasked to fly the 162. he only made a few flights before he was shot down by a p-51 while moving 162s to a new AB. he crash landed his jet --survived being hit by a 50bmg . ended up in the US and joined the NAVY. he said the 162 was excellent to fly IF the glue held and the engine didn't blow--yet they failed very frequently

    • @Flapjackbatter
      @Flapjackbatter 2 месяца назад +18

      Was that Harald Bauer maybee? He was shot down while ferrying a 162. Flew for the US (don't remember wich branch) before and during Vietnam. He later did talks at airshows etc.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +7

      Thank you for sharing that!

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 2 месяца назад

      When you have slaves building your airplanes...

    • @Donmusicman
      @Donmusicman 2 месяца назад +5

      I remember reading somewhere that the glue that was used was inferior to the intended glue. The Allies had destroyed the factory that produced the glue that the Germans needed, so, they used what was available instead. That led to aircraft breakups in mid flight. Gotta say, though, it was a beautiful looking plane for the time. I had a model of it when I was a kid.

    • @drstrangelove4998
      @drstrangelove4998 2 месяца назад +5

      You met Harald Bauer. He relates to one of the pilots who shot down a DeHavilland Meteor of 616 sq Near the Dutch border. Confirming perhaps Eric Browns prediction that the Volksjäger would run rings around the Meteor, had they met in combat.

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ 2 месяца назад +123

    "If the glue holds" is a terrifying qualifier of an airplane's capabilities.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +8

      Yes, somehow nuts and rivets seem far more reassuring 😁

    • @louisavondart9178
      @louisavondart9178 2 месяца назад +9

      The glue was fine, until the factory that made it got bombed. The new manufacturer made glue that was so toxic that it ate through the wood. That problem was remedied before production ceased and the last airframes made were perfectly reliable.

    • @andrslnks4804
      @andrslnks4804 2 месяца назад +3

      They glue aircrafts these days also

    • @scootergeorge7089
      @scootergeorge7089 2 месяца назад +2

      @@andrslnks4804 - Yes, but the technology has come a long way since WWII.

    • @andrslnks4804
      @andrslnks4804 2 месяца назад +4

      @@scootergeorge7089 except boeing?

  • @m0rvidusm0rvidus18
    @m0rvidusm0rvidus18 2 месяца назад +28

    People like to hate on it, but it's obvious that if this design was manufactured in the same conditions the US/UK, with better facilities, labour force and raw materials etc., and pilots were trained properly to operate it, it would have been hard to beat. The speed advantage was massive.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  Месяц назад +5

      I agree, with proper testing and better production conditions, these fighters could have been effective for a while.

    • @wetleyrocks3092
      @wetleyrocks3092 14 дней назад

      If my auntie had balls she would've been my uncle

  • @FlyinBrian777
    @FlyinBrian777 2 месяца назад +148

    Eric Brown flew the 162 after the war and said it was very responsive and delightful to fly.

    • @ScoopsTV-History-om9mv
      @ScoopsTV-History-om9mv 2 месяца назад +5

      He also said the p47 had a low mach limit ,he was wrong

    • @travelbugse2829
      @travelbugse2829 2 месяца назад +16

      @@ScoopsTV-History-om9mv Eric 'Winkle' Brown probably was flying other countries' aircraft without ordnance and not much fuel on board, so the handling characteristics would have been different. He also believed the ME 262 was a superior gun platform (less snaking) to the Gloster Meteor, which is hotly disputed these days.

    • @robertharper3754
      @robertharper3754 2 месяца назад +30

      There was little at the time that he didn't fly, so he was a VERY experienced pilot to say the least, as to the pilots who had to fly the 162 during the war they weren't even close to his league.

    • @robertbolding4182
      @robertbolding4182 2 месяца назад +1

      That really doesn't mean anything does it

    • @Rudeljaeger
      @Rudeljaeger 2 месяца назад +34

      He even said "it can fly circles around a Meteor". Surprisingly these quotes often result in angry seething by british (!) commenters lol

  • @anderssvensson4554
    @anderssvensson4554 2 месяца назад +43

    This is the best history lesson ive seen so far on he 162

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +4

      Thank you very much for that positive feedback!

    • @olgagaming5544
      @olgagaming5544 18 дней назад

      @@showtime112 Hey, do you have online access to digitalised archives of both German and Allied reports? Because for such a research, normally someone would have to sit in german archives and know german and live either in germany or somewhere in the EU and also have an access to compare the reports with Allied ones.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  18 дней назад

      @@olgagaming5544 Afraid not. I can only rely on research done by other people (and made public).

  • @bjornsmith9431
    @bjornsmith9431 2 месяца назад +25

    Great history lesson He 162 the facts are rarely mentions.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for the feedback!

  • @ganndeber1621
    @ganndeber1621 2 месяца назад +28

    Another well presented and informative video

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +3

      Glad you think so! Thank you!

  • @tplyons5459
    @tplyons5459 2 месяца назад +8

    Missing in history is the 162s used by Jg-84 and 85. They both picked up their 162s at the same time and flew in formation to their new base which is unknown. The accidently ran into an unescorted groups of American bombers and did considerable damage before they had to break off due to fuel. There is one book on Jg-85 that I have been trying to get a hold of to verify this story, but no luck yet.

  • @jeromewagschal9485
    @jeromewagschal9485 2 месяца назад +23

    The fact that this sleek little jet fighter flew at the end of WW2 totally blows my mind, the ME 163 and the 262 looked different and futuristic but this one with its wing tips and jet engine on top looked really really different...
    That said, I wonder how the Heinkel 162 would have fared against the Gloster Meteor...

    • @yoschiannik8438
      @yoschiannik8438 2 месяца назад +3

      Well the metor was actually operationaö whilst the 162 was rushed amd flown by surivers ir cannonfodder. I cant imagine that the woukd have scored a singel kill against a metor whils losing atleast a hanfull of aircraft to accidents

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +1

      I suppose nobody was yet sure how the future of fighter design would look like to everyone tried a different approach. The thing with an engine on top didn't catch on 😁 It is a shame that Meteor never faced the German jets.

    • @jeromewagschal9485
      @jeromewagschal9485 2 месяца назад

      @@showtime112 That makes sense, it was such a new type of technology nobody knew where things would go from there...

    • @mikedearing6352
      @mikedearing6352 2 месяца назад +2

      Victory would go to the best pilot in this comparison I think because both aircraft were very capable, one was faster while the other had much greater range, various combat scenarios would favor one aircraft over the other. I'd think the me262 might have manovering and some speed advantage and that by itself is often a deciding factor but... having more fuel, more flying time, can be decisive as well depending on a few other factors.

    • @yoschiannik8438
      @yoschiannik8438 2 месяца назад +1

      @@mikedearing6352 Skill means nothing when your wings fall off if you try to turn...

  • @lazaglider
    @lazaglider 2 месяца назад +47

    This is crazy. I was in my local modelling shop not 3 hours ago and they had a couple of Tamiya He-162s in my preferred scale of 1/48. No, I thought. Too outlandish. I will pick one up tomorrow...

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +9

      Recently, I'm getting some feedback that my videos inspire people to build certain models. I should try to approach model companies for sponsorship 😁

    • @micfail2
      @micfail2 2 месяца назад

      RC or shelf jockey?

  • @lllordllloyd
    @lllordllloyd 2 месяца назад +5

    As a 50+ channel subscriber, how fortunate we are to have the technology to reproduce these actions so well... and by 'we' I mean our narrator, who tells these stories so engagingly and without padding.
    Great channel, sir.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you very much! This is a very positive feedback. I've been familiar with the simulation technology ever since the early days, the progress is quite amazing.

  • @henrikstolpe
    @henrikstolpe 2 месяца назад +4

    They have a complete 162 in the Berlin technical museum, as well as a 109. Was amazing.

    • @MsSoulProvider
      @MsSoulProvider 2 месяца назад

      try Gatow Airport,- whole lotta goodies there too..

  • @Edescho
    @Edescho 2 месяца назад +4

    The animation on this video, coupled with the obvious research gone in to the history, is astounding. Incredible work. Hats off to you sir.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you very much, this is high praise indeed!

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 2 месяца назад +4

    That it flew as well as it did is a miracle in itself. Especially when one considers the circumstances of its manufacturer.
    A good showing of its history in action.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, the odds were not in its favor. Thank you for commenting!

  • @warbuzzard7167
    @warbuzzard7167 2 месяца назад +5

    Another fine production in the books. Keep on keeping on, Showtime112.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      I'm happy to hear it, thank you!

  • @JT-io9ii
    @JT-io9ii 2 месяца назад +14

    Absolutely loved this one! I'll revisit and watch again..several times, as I find the air war over Europe to be most interesting. For me anyway. Fantastic video!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +2

      I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed it so much! Happy re-watch 😁

  • @longshot7590
    @longshot7590 2 месяца назад +2

    Great Job with this video! Much appreciated! I knew so little coming in and left feeling like i am ready to lookup more about this amazing time of the launch of the age of the single engine jet fighter age!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you very much for the comment!

  • @mchrome3366
    @mchrome3366 2 месяца назад +4

    Excellent video, content and commentary. Thanks

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!

  • @robertplemmons3321
    @robertplemmons3321 Месяц назад +3

    Nice video. Excellent graphics.

  • @themajesticmagnificent386
    @themajesticmagnificent386 10 дней назад +1

    I can’t tell you how much I love this channel..The great history and video fits perfectly together..Also this channel comes at a direct way of telling the facts about an aircraft or a conflict..Keep up the great work and will you do a part 2 on the Romanian Airforce during WW2..If not the Airforce of Hungry would be great to watch..Thank you🇬🇧👍

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  9 дней назад +1

      Thank you very much for such an awesome comment! I will cover more of the Romanian Air Force in the future but I'm not sure when exactly.

  • @alexhatfield2987
    @alexhatfield2987 2 месяца назад +1

    Excellent video. Love your honest presentation of the research blended with the simulation of the events.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you very much for the positive feedback! That is essentially what I go for.

  • @stevetheduck1425
    @stevetheduck1425 2 дня назад

    There's one in the museum at Hendon, England, or was when I was last there, looked like most of the collection was elsewhere.
    That He-162 looked to be in good condition, and appeared to be in it's original paintwork.
    The data board with it said it was one of several found on an airfield, lined up for inspection by the US and British army guys who arrived to takeover.
    Among these was the one, at least, that was flown to Britain and tested there, and this one.
    Some others have survived in museums, but records are sketchy on if any He-162 ever had a combat victory.
    The fighter units that received aircraft were mostly trying to re-train pilots on jets, and moving to new airfields, then waiting for fuel and parts to catch up.
    There was an incident when some allied fighters ( Tempests, Mustangs or Thunderbolts, depending on which account you find ) met He-162s at low level shortly after take-off, and there appears to have been gunfire exchanged, but the He-162 involved crashed upon landing at the new airfield.

  • @florianbrechler6906
    @florianbrechler6906 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for these great video! My grand unkle was at the 1. Jagdgeschwader and was trained on the "Volksjäger" he liked it but told not to pull the flightstick too strong at the start.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for appreciating it and for sharing a personal relation. That agrees with what I've read, maneuvering the He-162 at low speeds should have been very careful.

  • @1joshjosh1
    @1joshjosh1 2 месяца назад +7

    Another good video Showtime 112.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thanks, I'm glad you liked this one too!

  • @drstrangelove4998
    @drstrangelove4998 6 дней назад +1

    Capt. Eric Brown loved the handling of the He162, saying it would ‘run rings around a Gloster Meteor jet, had they met in combat. In fact his prediction came true, when a Meteor from 616sq was shot down over the Dutch border by a Volksjäger in the last days of the war.

  • @josemoreno3334
    @josemoreno3334 2 месяца назад +4

    This is the first video of the He-162 i ever seen. Well done video.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you very much. There is a bunch of other videos but they focus on other aspects of this type.

  • @davidpope3943
    @davidpope3943 2 месяца назад +14

    Thank-you for an excellent telling of the He-162, my favourite of the early jet aircraft. Despite the appalling state the Germans were in, to design, test, build and put into service this aircraft in such a short span of time was a huge achievement ~ even if Ernst Heinkel did all he could behind the scenes to ensure his aircraft won the Volksjager competition despite there being better designs presented such as the Ta-183.
    Proposed future iterations of the He-162 included; swept wings, forward swept wings, V tail, different engine fits including 1 or 2 pulse jets etc. Galland decried the very concept of the Volksjager, saying they should be concentrating on Me-262 production instead and the idea that barely trained Hitler Youth were to pilot what was a hot little plane were ludicrous, but Eric Brown RN said it was an exhilarating little plane to fly, would’ve run rings round the Gloster Meteor and that the Allies were lucky it hadn’t appeared earlier as in concert with the Me-262 it would have wreaked havoc on Allied bomber formations.

    • @earlgrey691
      @earlgrey691 2 месяца назад +1

      German utter genius and capability is no small thing i'd vouchsafe?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      The idea that youth with some basic training could fly this jet was one of the most optimistic ideas in history 😁 And Eric Brown seems to have had one of the coolest jobs ever! Thanks for another comment!

  • @wiktorberski9272
    @wiktorberski9272 2 месяца назад +9

    A really interesting piece of military history. So thank you very much

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @juancarlosperezcortes9259
    @juancarlosperezcortes9259 2 месяца назад +3

    Great story. The unknown episodes of WW2. Thanks for sahring it with us

  • @wingmanjim6
    @wingmanjim6 14 дней назад +2

    An obviously well researched video - thank you !

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  14 дней назад

      Thank you for appreciating it!

  • @lucius6667
    @lucius6667 2 месяца назад +3

    Glad you did this assessment,one of my favourite late German aircraft tbh what other late war types you got plans to showcase next and keep up the good work buddy ??

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the feedback! There will probably be something about Me-163.

  • @brealistic3542
    @brealistic3542 2 месяца назад +8

    It's a very clever simple design.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +3

      It was generally not bad but it really needed more testing.

  • @doktor_spritz9344
    @doktor_spritz9344 2 месяца назад +4

    Amazing vid as always

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!

  • @tominva4121
    @tominva4121 2 месяца назад +10

    I have often wondered about how effective the German ejection seats were in use.

    • @MrOlgrumpy
      @MrOlgrumpy 2 месяца назад +3

      So did the pilots --

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Well, it was brand new technology and it could work under favorable circumstances. Perhaps in those cases the pilot might have just bailed out without the ejection seat but I'm sure that it increased the chances for survival.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 месяца назад +2

      The way I see it, the pilots would have no chance of survival without the ejector seat. With the seat, they had a small chance.
      A small chance is better than no chance.

    • @williamzk9083
      @williamzk9083 2 месяца назад +3

      Heinkel remained in charge of ejection seat development through the war. Ejection seat was standard on all German test aircraft. Perhaps a dozen ejections occurred on service He 219 and I believe some crew on the He 177 had them. They were on the whole quite successful. They were not automatic. The canopy had to be manually ejected, feet placed in stirrups and then ejection initiated. Parachute had to be manually deployed.
      -in modern zero zero ejection seats canopy is ejected automatically, feet retracted by straps into stirrups, ejection completed, parachute extracted by rocked and parachute instantly inflated by explode charge.
      -The geometric seats, at least got you out of the aircraft

  • @FRIEND_711
    @FRIEND_711 2 месяца назад +4

    Absolutely lovely that yoh work in even something with little service record ae the He-162. Bravo.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +1

      Basically, in case such as this you cover many details which you would skip with an aircraft with a bigger combat record 😁 Thank you for another comment!

    • @FRIEND_711
      @FRIEND_711 2 месяца назад +2

      @@showtime112 of course and always! I love watching your videos and i absolutely love them.

  • @Tamburello_1994
    @Tamburello_1994 2 месяца назад +7

    50k -- look at you.
    Congrats, friend. On to 100k.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      I used to think that youtubers with 25 K were big shots. Doesn't seem so anymore 😁 Anyway, thanks for the wishes!

  • @user-ke4vx1tt6j
    @user-ke4vx1tt6j 2 месяца назад +6

    Thanks for showing this plane. Interesting trivia

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for watching!

  • @oveidasinclair982
    @oveidasinclair982 2 месяца назад +6

    The He-162's didn't get many kills, but the squadron was new, the planes were not well tested before deliveries started so they had a lot of teething problems. It had an impressive armament package, but with really only two months to train, and constantly changing air fields, not much time to achieve anything.

    • @heneagedundas
      @heneagedundas 2 месяца назад +1

      Only 1 kill claimed and that was given to a flak crew, so yes, not many.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +1

      The odds were pretty bad, nobody can deny that. Thanks for another comment!

    • @louisavondart9178
      @louisavondart9178 2 месяца назад

      It only had 2x 20mm cannons.

    • @czwarty7878
      @czwarty7878 2 месяца назад +4

      @@louisavondart9178 Just like Spitfire, Bf-109, La-7 or Fw190D. It wasn't weak armament, especially since German 20mm shells were more powerful than others, and in this aircraft the guns were centerline instead of wing-mounted which always increased effectiveness. The real problem was abysmal amount of ammunition (barely 120 rounds per gun, while typical loadout of WWII fighter would be 200 rounds)

  • @stevetheduck1425
    @stevetheduck1425 2 дня назад

    The speed with which this aircraft was produced is often commented upon.
    It's worth looking through Heinkel designs to find that a larger plane with similar layout existed in the form of calculations and drawings of basic airframe design, more than a drawing, less than a prototype.
    Like with the existing North American A-36 Apache becoming the P-51 Mustang, this shortened development enormously.

  • @drstrangelove4998
    @drstrangelove4998 6 дней назад +1

    The glue thing is easily explained, the original Tego Film glue factory had just been bombed flat, and so a substitute called Kaurit, which was more subject to moisture, sometimes causing failure.

  • @robgraham5697
    @robgraham5697 2 месяца назад +5

    Thanks again for this bit of obscure history.

  • @iskandartaib
    @iskandartaib 2 месяца назад +2

    I'd love to see similar videos on the subject of American-made carrier based fighters (i.e. the Wildcat/Martlet, the Hellcat and the Corsair) vs. Luftwaffe land-based fighters. So far I haven't come across even a single instance of an encounter, let alone any combat or comparisons. The FAA fighters were deployed in nothern European waters, e.g. the Tirpitz raids, where they didn't actually encounter any Luftwaffe fighter opposition. Also, accounts of the Fulmar vs. German single engine fighters.

  • @FulmenTheFinn
    @FulmenTheFinn 2 месяца назад +3

    Excellent video. Subscribed.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you very much, I appreciate it!

  • @i.setyawan
    @i.setyawan 2 месяца назад +5

    Another great video! The volksjäger is an interesting subject. I personally thought that its performance was much worse. In any case, a curious little plane that tried to push the envelope.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thanks! I agree, such airplanes with their flaws and everything can sometimes be even more interesting than those which were just unbeatable.

  • @offshorequest
    @offshorequest 2 месяца назад +2

    Another good video about lesser known Luftwaffe aircraft.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for the positive feedback!

  • @powerjets3512
    @powerjets3512 2 месяца назад +26

    Having seen the plane in a Berlin museum, it is scary. To get into that is. Wood and a BMW unreliable engine. The ejection seat is supposed to stop you going into the jet engine, but no hope at low altitude.

    • @jamesrogers5783
      @jamesrogers5783 2 месяца назад

      it looks quite "spidery" to me as well. those spindly tail surfaces don't inspire much confidence , nor does the engine placement. or that its made of wood held together with wood glue --heat and wood glue ?? bad combo

    • @pg259
      @pg259 2 месяца назад

      @@jamesrogers5783 Yeah--like the Mosquito and we all know that was a very bad plane, wasn´t it?

    • @jamesrogers5783
      @jamesrogers5783 2 месяца назад

      the mossie was not jet powered and the brits had much better glue@@pg259

    • @edsmale
      @edsmale 2 месяца назад +2

      @@pg259different glue, vastly different construction skill.

    • @JoeJ94611
      @JoeJ94611 2 месяца назад +1

      @@edsmale I recall reading the preferred glue manufacturer's factory was badly damaged in an Allied air raid.

  • @A.G.798
    @A.G.798 2 месяца назад +2

    Heinkel HE 162 auch genannt der Volksjäger! Billig hergestellt, viel Sperrholz und auch schwer zu fliegen.

  • @chups1447
    @chups1447 2 месяца назад +3

    Great work!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the visit Chups!

  • @SeSmokki
    @SeSmokki 2 месяца назад +4

    I really love the design. Unique plane designs are fun.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Unique is the word, nothing quite like it appeared ever again.

  • @aeuphrosine
    @aeuphrosine 2 месяца назад +1

    This people fighter is very fascinating. Thx for this great video once again :)

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for appreciating it!

  • @RealDarko
    @RealDarko 2 месяца назад +4

    Nicely researched of a obscure airplane, I liked the camme scheme of the french one at the end.

    • @dominiqueroudier9401
      @dominiqueroudier9401 2 месяца назад +2

      After war french air force tested 3 he162. Between 1947 and 1948. Unfortunately one test pilot crashed Just after takeoff in field near Mont de Marsan AB. 2 others plane were send to FAF mechanics school. Now one of two is display at Musée de l'air Paris Le bourget

    • @RealDarko
      @RealDarko 2 месяца назад

      @@dominiqueroudier9401 Thanks for the info!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks! I thought an Allied skin would be a nice touch, representing the post-war testing phase in the airplane's life.

  • @ralphscholer7345
    @ralphscholer7345 2 месяца назад +2

    Thank YOU for this extraordinary and brilliant video ! It's very Special and for me,as a german,now I know the last day's of this jet experiment of the LUFTWAFFE !! Good Job,well done!! 😊

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      I really appreciate your positive feedback!

  • @byronbreese3454
    @byronbreese3454 2 месяца назад +3

    Your visual suggestion at the end is intriguing. Did the French capture, paint, and fly some 162s?!?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Yes, France, UK, USA and USSR all tested He-162 after the war.

    • @byronbreese3454
      @byronbreese3454 2 месяца назад

      Ah, I see, as in tested. I knew the US etc captured and tested, but not France. I remember when the A-10 emerged how it's basic design, albeit with two engines, reminded me of the 162. @@showtime112

  • @TheLincolnshireFlyer
    @TheLincolnshireFlyer 2 месяца назад +2

    Great video! Will you be doing any more on the Falklands war? There are the two Etendard Exocet attacks on the MV Atlantic Conveyer and HMS Sheffield, The ground attack where a Harrier GR3 was shot down and the shootdown of the C130 by Sharky Ward in a Sea Harrier. Be great to see more :)

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +2

      Thank you1 There are certainly plans to cover Falklands some more. The problem is that there's so much stuff to cover and not enough time to do it all 😁

  • @Miko19691
    @Miko19691 2 месяца назад +3

    Again very good video.

  • @Lonkka665
    @Lonkka665 2 месяца назад +2

    Nice video, thx.
    It is always awesome to get the actual stories from the unit flight logs and compare them tot the ones from the other side!
    I also built the Revell's model kit when I was a kid and had always thought that the plane made at least some sort of impact, but achieving measly one confirmed kill with couple of losses due to enemy action, plus all the "self-inflicted" losses, makes you REALLY wonder if the resources used to design and build the 300+ of these could've been used WAY better...
    Obviously that comment comes with hindsight, but wasn't this a bit of a common problem in 3rd Reich? Spending scant resources on trying to get better and better wunderwaffe after wunderwaffe when reliable more standard equipment had been already available from some time and would've been a way better an option to stick with them and increase their production?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for the feedback! Yes, German resources probably could have been spent better but the airplane itself wasn't bad. It just needed some more time to mature as it was clearly rushed into service.

  • @stevendorris5713
    @stevendorris5713 2 месяца назад +3

    One word...WOW!!!!
    Great job!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you very much for this positive feedback!

  • @jeannezehner9450
    @jeannezehner9450 2 месяца назад +7

    The SALAMANDER, was built in a hurry, with a mix of wood and aluminium and the turbojet of the ME-262 which was ready.
    It was easy to produce and cheap, it's was very important at the end of the war.
    But it need more time to be well developped, unfortunatly it was the end the war, and the accident arrived very often. 320 was produced on 1945, this is an exploit in so little time !!!

    • @dominiqueroudier9401
      @dominiqueroudier9401 2 месяца назад +1

      L armée de l'air en à récupérer 3 et tester à Mont de Marsan entre 47 et 48. Malheureusement un pilote d'essai s'est planté dans un champ 3km après décollage. Un des 2 restant est exposé au musée de l'air du Bourget. J'ai même la photo !!!.
      J'en ai vu un autre,. Me rappelle plus si c'était à IWM de Hendon ou Duxford. Par contre le me 262 c'est Hendon. J'ai pu le...toucher

    • @jeannezehner9450
      @jeannezehner9450 2 месяца назад +1

      @@dominiqueroudier9401
      C'est une invention dans l'urgence de fin de guerre. Mais c'est une prouesse technique réalisée en un minimum de temps qui a été bien pensée. Cependant arrivant trop tard pour faire quoi que ce soit, elle fut oubliée comme beaucoup d'autres.
      Il aurait fallu qu'elle soit mise au point en 42, là elle aurait pu faire faire mal aux bombardiers alliés.

    • @dominiqueroudier9401
      @dominiqueroudier9401 2 месяца назад +2

      @@jeannezehner9450 Par contre sais pas si plus fiable que le Me 262. Par contre manque de pilotes expérimentés.
      Les 3 exemplaires captures ont permis aux pilotes du CEV de se faire la main avant de recevoir le premier lot de Vampire. Et c'est bien que à la fin de la vidéo il en a mis un aux couleurs de l,AA

    • @paulwoodman5131
      @paulwoodman5131 2 месяца назад

      The turbo jet engine they put in that was a marvel and it needed better metals that they didn't have access to, but time between overall was probably very short as the allies soon discovered in their testing. If they didn't have a good supply of parts , they had to park them. But interesting to see as the Reich collapsed what they held on to and were they ended up.

    • @jeannezehner9450
      @jeannezehner9450 2 месяца назад

      @@dominiqueroudier9401
      Le ME-262 a deux turboréacteurs, c'est mieux, mais c'est tout, et puis il y avait le problème des pilotes expérimentés en fin de guerre.

  • @timcargile1562
    @timcargile1562 Месяц назад +2

    Vrdeo of a rare slice of ww2 history. Thanks!

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  Месяц назад

      Thank you for the positive feedback!

  • @vonbraunwerner9067
    @vonbraunwerner9067 2 месяца назад +2

    15:58 France flight tested a trio of He-162s in 1946-1948. At my birthplace: Mont de Marsan, south-west France. BA.118 Colonel Rozanoff, nowadays they fly Rafales (the base also got the first Mirage IVA nuclear bombers in October 1964). Whatever Eric Brown said of the He-162, french pilots hated the machine. There was one fatal accident mid 1948 after what the type was grounded. France used the type as a trainer to familiarize pilots with the coming jet fighters: Vampires and Ouragans.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for sharing the info, it's quite interesting.

  • @MGB-learning
    @MGB-learning 2 месяца назад +3

    Great video

  • @branka4226
    @branka4226 2 месяца назад +2

    Nice video 👍

  • @patavinity1262
    @patavinity1262 2 месяца назад +2

    Imagine you're a successful German fighter pilot and you receive the news that your squadron is being re-equipped with brand new aircraft. Then you see the new aircraft and it's a flimsy deathtrap with a giant engine strapped on to the fuselage.

  • @MrSpirit99
    @MrSpirit99 2 месяца назад +7

    Nice one.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thanks! Glad you liked it!

  • @GeneralJackRipper
    @GeneralJackRipper 2 месяца назад +2

    The Thunderbolt misidentification is funny, in the same way Allied ground troops often identified every German tank as a Tiger. The Thunderbolt was by far the meanest machine alive over Europe, and it's no wonder "Thunderbolt Fright" has taken hold among the Luftwaffe.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +2

      I think a similar thing was happening during the Battle of Britain when German pilots were always shot down by Spitfires and rarely ever by Hurricanes :)

    • @GeneralJackRipper
      @GeneralJackRipper 2 месяца назад

      @@showtime112 Very good point sir.

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman День назад +1

    Grwat video. Subbed...👍

  • @pablopeter3564
    @pablopeter3564 2 месяца назад +2

    GREAT VIDEO, as usual. Preserving history alive and paying tribute to those pilotos who dared to fly and fight for their country. They are flying higher now than during those days. THANKS.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you once again! Apart from the historical significance, I find the mindset of the people involved a fascinating subject as well.

  • @N8570E
    @N8570E 2 месяца назад

    Although I find his accent fatiguing, I do appreciate his pronunciation of German words and names. Also, as to the computer animation, I believed that I would hate it. But I loved it. In my youth, the late 1950's, there were library books. Very few photographs of World War II aircraft and other equipment. That is why I got into plastic kit modeling. I wanted to see a Junkers Ju 88 from different angles. Also, it was the beginning of black and white TVs with rabbit ears (antennae) and very iffy reception. There were 3 TV stations with limited broadcasting hours: WBBM (CBS channel 2), WMAQ (NBC channel 5) and WBKB (ABC channel 7). And a little bit of WGN (independent channel 9) and WTTW (independent non-profit channel 11). They were VHF. When UHF came out, there was WFLD (channel 32) and 'WSNW?' (channel 44). I could at times receive a station from Milwaukee(?) and watch true bull fights! That was at about two in the morning and with the right atmospherics. And, no computers! Can you believe it!!! Thanks for the memories.
    I have short attention span. In those days, especially over the summer, I would watch the TV in my bedroom and the one down the hall in my older brother's bedroom, for the at home local ball team (Cubs or Sox, White, that is) and a national broadcast on channel 5 NBC ("Game of the Week"). I would have one radio on to the local pop music station (WIND, WGN, WLS, I don't remember). I would also have two other radios, one tuned to the local team that was out of town and one to a 'national' game. I would usually score the at home game. And I would also be reading a book. And during the week, the Cubs might be available, they never played night games at home. All pitchers batted and there were 8 teams in each league, including the Milwaukee Braves, New York Giants and Brooklyn Dodgers. Depending upon the season there was the NFL and later the AFL. The Chicago Cardinals were my favorite team. And the Bears played at Wrigley Field. Go Ollie Matson and Rick Casares! There was no basketball in Chicago and the Chicago Blackhawks' home games were never broadcast on TV. Go Stan Mikita!
    At 77 with multiple strokes and other happy events, I acknowledge that my memory is faulty. But that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
    Thank you for your efforts. May you and yours stay well and prosper.

  • @redblack8414
    @redblack8414 2 месяца назад

    There is one in the Canada Aviation and Space Museum in Ottawa, Canada. Quite an interesting aircraft. The jet engine was a BMW if I remember well. Was it the first WW2 aircraft to have an ejection seat?

  • @aldocosta1220
    @aldocosta1220 2 месяца назад +2

    Bela animação e trabalho histórico, bom trabalho

  • @ayamoth8925
    @ayamoth8925 2 месяца назад +1

    Nice video! Which game did you use?

  • @Pucaramodels
    @Pucaramodels 2 месяца назад +3

    You should do a video about the me 323 gigant

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Sadly, it's not available in the sims I use.

  • @Rapscallion2009
    @Rapscallion2009 2 дня назад

    I'd have expected the aircraft to be very noise with that engine immediately behind the pilot. Surprised to learn it wasn't.

  • @WholesomeContentForYou
    @WholesomeContentForYou Месяц назад +3

    what game was used to record the footage? thanks

  • @WALTERBROADDUS
    @WALTERBROADDUS 2 месяца назад +3

    I've always felt it is an aircraft that never got a fair chance. It needed time to debug and train on.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      That's true, the game was rigged against it.

  • @avus-kw2f213
    @avus-kw2f213 2 месяца назад

    excellent performance
    terrifying build quality

  • @dominiqueroudier9401
    @dominiqueroudier9401 2 месяца назад +3

    Hello again mate. Just send you by mail , link about "french " he162. Thank you to show at end of vidéo this plane with french roundels.🇲🇫 3 are used ,1 crashed. Other in display at musée de l'air Paris le bourget. In UK , seen in IWM Hendon or Duxford

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      I've seen the mail, thank you! I thought it was interesting to use one of the Allied skins at the end to illustrate the final chapter in the type's operational use - testing (usually, it's just the first chapter)

    • @russellmarriott9396
      @russellmarriott9396 2 месяца назад

      There is one currently under restoration at Duxford.

    • @dominiqueroudier9401
      @dominiqueroudier9401 2 месяца назад

      ​@@russellmarriott9396yes i have seen it in 2019. In France another display at musée de l'air Paris le bourget exécutive airport ( Paris airshow)

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 2 месяца назад +1

    Many/some years ago I visited IWM in London and they had an He 162 hanging close to the balcony, to be looked at. Still an extremely "modern" looking fighter, though being planned and produced during an absurdly short time at the end of the war. Finn. Denmark

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Thank you for sharing your experience!

  • @Krhys1
    @Krhys1 2 месяца назад +1

    It's still a lovely looking aircraft.

  • @AtheistOrphan
    @AtheistOrphan 2 месяца назад +1

    I’ve been lucky enough to see two of these rare aircraft, one at the RAF Museum and the other at the Imperial War Museum.

  • @matydrum
    @matydrum 2 месяца назад +1

    What sim or game do you use? I'm not sure!

  • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
    @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 месяца назад +8

    Wooden jet built by forced labor...what could go wrong? 😂

    • @ElmCreekSmith
      @ElmCreekSmith 2 месяца назад +2

      The British Vampire & Mosquito were built of wood by skilled cabinet makers, & they turned out well.

    • @edsmale
      @edsmale 2 месяца назад +3

      @@ElmCreekSmithnot slave labor, big difference

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +2

      Especially when you add insufficient testing and overwhelming enemies 😁

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 месяца назад

      @@showtime112 Poor little Heinkel didn't stand a chance 😥

    • @daveharrison61
      @daveharrison61 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ElmCreekSmithskilled labour and motivated. That's the difference.

  • @alyciamarrison2916
    @alyciamarrison2916 2 месяца назад +1

    Most accounts say that the He 162 was unstable & difficult to fly except for very experienced pilots.

    • @stevetheduck1425
      @stevetheduck1425 2 месяца назад

      The design was lengthened by about 800mm after the instability was recognised, and the later flights went pretty well.
      The glue holding it together was suspect, and the engines were often less than reliable.
      This wasn't a problem for a nation willing to train a pilot in 40 hours and if he destroyed one more expensive enemy plane, it would have been worth it, in their opinion.
      He-162 flown after the war for testing were less than reliable, and one lost a tailfin, tumbled and broke up at Farnborough, under test by British test pilots.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      As far as I can tell, it was tricky under certain conditions and it would frequently depart controlled flight. Unfortunately, there are no detailed reports of the crashes which could tell us more.

  • @blackchallis
    @blackchallis 2 месяца назад +1

    The Tempest pilot Spawn camping makes me sad

  • @mikearmstrong8483
    @mikearmstrong8483 2 месяца назад +1

    "Our training is restricted to 600 kts (about 360 mph) because the plywood wings are glued together and may come apart."
    "We lost 7 planes before we ever got off a shot at an enemy plane."
    "We traded in our FW-190s for THIS?"

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Well, you could say that the project needed more time to mature 😁

  • @KillerKev1961
    @KillerKev1961 2 месяца назад +3

    Was this created using Il-2 combat sim???

  • @currentbatches6205
    @currentbatches6205 2 месяца назад +2

    couple-hundred hours GA pilot here; was handed the controls to a Texan (180 Kt aircraft) in a hire flight. Rapidly handed the stick back; too much action for too little input. And the 'volk' were to fly a jet powered plane? Guessing most of the 'volk' put them into the ground, nose-first.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      It definitely takes time to build muscle memory for each airplane type in order to fly it well, that's for sure.

  • @dominiqueroudier9401
    @dominiqueroudier9401 2 месяца назад +4

    Hello mate, rare plane, and infos also. Used short time in combat. Dont know if have some kills.
    Switch immédiately on TV hd

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      Hi! It's a very rare plane and only used in the final days of WW2. For some reason, this particular period is fascinating me lately :)

  • @confuseatronica
    @confuseatronica 2 месяца назад

    what game are the visuals from, one of the IL2 series?

  • @hb9145
    @hb9145 2 месяца назад

    This aircraft was a joy to fly in FlightGear.

  • @ghostb9339
    @ghostb9339 2 месяца назад +1

    I think Wehrmacht should’ve concentrated their efforts on optimization of existing piston engines and aerodynamics instead of testing new technology in such an inappropriate period of the war. But it seems like the idea of Wunderwaffe captured minds of Reich higher management.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      It was probably desperation. It was obvious that they couldn't beat the Allies with prop aircraft so they thought they needed weapons which could give them huge advantage to compensate for the quantity.

  • @salvagedb2470
    @salvagedb2470 2 месяца назад

    It was a Last build last Gasp Fighter an it was Perfection in its Design , had it Probs , Still a winner in My book.

  • @Cuccos19
    @Cuccos19 2 месяца назад +2

    Of course it is a what if, but if the type would made with high quality standards and the engine would be realibly (both impossible at the end of the war on the German side) what could it do against Allied types? Or if it would roll off the line a year earlier?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад

      It would have probably causes quite a few losses among Allied bombers but the end result would have been the same, I'd say.

  • @robertdragoff6909
    @robertdragoff6909 17 дней назад +1

    At the end of the video I saw the He-162in (I think) French markings…..
    Did the French ever get a hold of any to test them out?

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  16 дней назад +1

      Yes, they did. The four major Allied nations all captured and tested some of the He-162s.

    • @robertdragoff6909
      @robertdragoff6909 16 дней назад

      @@showtime112
      That’s what I thought, but wasn’t sure.
      Thanks

  • @EddietheBastard
    @EddietheBastard 2 месяца назад +1

    Enemy identification reports are unreliable, every British single engined aircraft was a Spitfire, just as every German tanks was a Tiger. Tempest is a good call for the misidentification as Thunderbolts (Thunderbolts were the 'bogey' USAAF planes) as the two aircraft are both chunky. Would only take a couple of 20mm shells to destroy an HE162.
    Well researched and explained piece.

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you very much for the feedback! I know flight sims are not reality but if I had to report airplanes I was fighting against in simulations, I'd probably identify them mostly wrong 😁

    • @EddietheBastard
      @EddietheBastard 2 месяца назад

      @@showtime112 Visual recognition at combat speeds is high, so is the draw of feeling one is meeting 'the bogeyman' and of telling the story as having met the bogeyman. I fought a Pz4 isn't as good a tale as I fought a Tiger.

  • @rogerboniface8086
    @rogerboniface8086 2 месяца назад

    Oblt.Dickfield who flew from 1939 to 1945 said the 162 handled well and turned well. He got behind a P47 using a "flat turn". The weakness according to Dickfield was the nose wheel on landing.

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan 2 месяца назад +1

      The ME-163 did not have a nose wheel, it used a belly skid.

  • @stephenfarthing3819
    @stephenfarthing3819 2 дня назад

    Interesting !

  • @mishabakunin4354
    @mishabakunin4354 2 месяца назад +2

    What game is this footage from?

  • @michaelnaisbitt7926
    @michaelnaisbitt7926 2 месяца назад +7

    Records seem to vary somewhat but it appears that the He 162 shot down at least 6 and maybe as high as 8 Allied aircraft they lost more than that due to accidents on landing or trying to eject

    • @showtime112
      @showtime112  2 месяца назад +1

      From what I could find in the books that specifically deal with the subject, there's only that one questionable claim plus another one rumored kill but I didn't mention that one as there's no detail at all.

    • @brucemacaulay1235
      @brucemacaulay1235 2 месяца назад

      @@showtime112 Just read Adolf Dickfeld Footsteps of the Hunter and he claimed to shoot down a P-47 with his HE 162 page 187. Book can be found on SCRIB at no cost.

  • @robstone4537
    @robstone4537 2 месяца назад +1

    If the aircraft managed to outrun Wilkingtons Tempest initially it must have been pretty quick.