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What could Empire 2 look like? Is it possible that Total War Empire II is right around the corner? Or at least in the planning stages? I for one would love nothing more than a grand return to this era of history, and for Empire 2 to become the definitive Total War experience, filled with line infantry warfare, grand naval battles, and a larger campaign than we've ever seen before.
In this video, I discuss what Creative Assembly might do to create the best Empire Total War sequel possible, adding in 14 years of thoughts, ideas, and wishes for a Total War Empire 2. Do you agree or disagree with my ideas, only partially, or have I missed something else completely? Let me know YOUR thoughts, hopes and dreams for Empire 2 in the comments below! And don't forget to leave a like and subscribe to the channel :)
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Andy's Take this is the 7th week in a row you've shown "We need Empire 2" to the class
and the class applauds every time
Because we NEED it!
@@darkmattergamesofficial yes yes yes
Yikes, a Whack hammer fan. Give us our franchise back and go f--k back off to your tabletops.
Every time !@@AndysTake
Empire was my first total war and still my favorite. I played every total war from then, I always dreamed of an empire 2 and I still hope one day to see it 🥲
the hope lives!
Full world map.
More provinces.
Better pathing.
More Focus on the Navy ( Navy was king in this era )
That's it.
Better sieges that allows smaller garrisons to beat of larger forces if played well not just some small bad pathfinding fort with a few guns
And yes I would also like more focus on the navy but not too much over the army because the army was very important for most countries
clown&assembly must make that game immediately! And also should add historical city looks and also port assaults!
agreed!
What I like in terms of map look should be like in Warhammer where slowly the region turns to a culture. Be it native american, eastern or european. Culture should play a factor in the game.
I would be happy if they even remake/remaster actual Empire and make a proper mod support for it.
Modders will literally improve it.
I bought Empire randomly, on a physical disc. There was some trouble with getting it to work with Steam, so I tried to return it. Gamestop wouldn't take it as it had been opened or something, so I decided to give it another go and send a request to Steam to help me, with a picture of the receipt and everything. Heard nothing for days, then suddenly, the game had appeared in my library without the use of my disc. Somebody at Steam had just given me access.
I've been a fan of Total War since, and I continue to return to Empire due to its scale and setting. I so wish for a sequel with significant improvements, but still having the old feeling where units had weight, something that disappeared with Rome 2.
Empire 2 should cover 1600-1836ish if not to 1900.
Nah, pre dreadnoughts are too cool to miss out on!
@@algardausmultiple start dates are certainly a possibility
@@algardaus nah, leave it to its own game
I have wanted Empire 2 for so long but I’m getting older now and my love for gaming is waning rapidly. I fear by the time it comes out, I probably won’t even want to play it 😢
you will be dead by the time someone makes the game you are asking for... if ever
you should try hearts of iron 4
@@bigr5333 I did, couldn’t get into it
Understand that feeling all too well.
Great video. I can’t help but agree on the lack of province settlements in empire.
CA need a new engine, the limitations of the current one are starting to show, we need better ai, bigger battles, more dense maps and so on, all aspects of the game would benefit from a modern engine, maybe they could do a whole world/globe scale
I want Conquistadors, Aztecs, African Tribal warriors. Napoleonic line battles, Steamships, Samurai. A full early modern era. 1492 to 1914 timeline. I will neglect my child and divert significant potions of my income for that game. Isnt that what you want CA?
I was so excited for the release of Empire I rode my bike from high school during lunch to the mall just to pick up a copy of the game and have it when I got home from school.
I need an Empire 2 in my life before I get too old! Please, total war gods, hear my prayer.
I hope we get this eventually, it's a crime that we ever lost epic Naval combat like this. Or even a Pike and Shot/Renaissance game which might be a good compromise for the camps that want Medieval 3/Empire 2, while also allowing CA to try something new.
if we had a game with the same scale as Napoleon, applied to the entire world, that’s Game of the Year material
Largely agree with everything you said. Wouldn't make it a worldwide game, though I would take South America down a bit to include at least a part of Brazil, in order to give Portugal a presence in that theatre. Even if you do it in the coast of Brazil trade node as 'Imperial Destroyer' mod showed how it can be done. I also would split France and Spain into more regions, and release Crete and Cyprus from the regions they currently they belong to. I would also hope they fix the mess of what is called 'Cologne' in the Absolutum Dominium mod I currently play, and other things in other mods. Take Cleves out of it for another Prussian Region; Make Hessen-Kessel, and maybe Munster for a third. More Indian factions would hopefully mean that the Marathas have a harder time taking over all India, Asia Minor and Russia, as the often end up doing.
Religious buildings are the least useful to build. I would give them the ability to reduce the odds of Ministers and rulers gaining negative traits, as well as conversions and increasing happiness. Let us choose from the whole range of possible buildings when pop increase gives us a new city. Maybe even incorporating some of the buildings from Napoleon.
For tech, I would like to see more faction specific tech, and a new medicine tech tree to go next to the philosophy one.
More trade zones (Fur in the Canadian Far north, Tea in China), and more commodities and their values in the commodities screen. (At least wine)
Another thing I'd like is if Generals could rally and inspire like they do in Napoleon.
If the rumours are true about the Star Wars TW and WW1 TW the engine should be in a great shape to do Empire 2.
this is what gives me hope
Whenever I play the previous parts before Rome 2, I also dream of improved versions of these games. But I'm afraid, judging by the direction CA is going, we won't be able to wait for such games anymore.
I need it! I'm quite literally abstaining from starting Total War until Medieval 2 or Empire 2 comes out
@@mr.morningstar9906 good news - medieval 2 is already out ;)
@@AndysTake Meant medieval 3 lol. But maybe I'll give it a try
Empire 2 will be the game that brings me back to total war ...after quilting the series after being a part of it from its birth unit Atilla ......
One pet peeve of mine in Empire, is that I can’t toggle between volley fire, fire by rank, platoon fire, and fire at will. Each of those modes has their own advantages and I wish I could utilize them.
Not gonna lie I really want an Empire 2 before I want Medieval 3. We’re overdue for some good gunpowder games.
I am good with a remaster that takes care of the bugs, gives us some better graphics and improves map and diplomacy KI.
I honestly loved the navel warfare, once I got used to it
Check out the Empire Total War mod called Imperial Splendour. It's fantastic.
If they make Empire Total War 2 it will need to be such a game that evolves with time also, let say you start already around 1786 ish, a few years before the french revolution, and then ends about in 1929 right when great depression start (that will be the end game message). I want to be able to play as a startup of the mega empire before the become huge with a size of Victoria 3 Map (yea it needs to be the whole world) and then you see all the wars going left and right as to get more and more land, and the ''end game'' main thing will be world war 1 where you can rewrite history as you see fit. Can you imagine starting to play a line infantry men in the beginning and then having to adapt to trench warfare? I would pay a lot of money to be able to see Artillery Strike fire from accross the map as it hit no man lands, planes etc, I know it's possible now because they added tanks in Warhammer, flying units with drakes and stuff so they can easily add planes. I think that will be the epidome of Total war games. I mean and with how they can add DLC to the game where they add playable countries with their own unique flavour. In my opinion I don't care about multiplayer for a total war game (i know there is a a big community for that) but for me Total War always has been a single player Sandbox go at your own pace type of thing.
Empire is my favorite in the series, Empire 2 would be an instant buy
An empire 2 would be awesome, but Id prefer a napoleon 2
Nope.
what about a compromise - Napoleon time period on an Empire-sized (or larger) map?
@@AndysTake That would be perfect
@@AndysTakethat’s what I want. A Napoleon campaign and battles with empires scale.
Hope you're doing better!👏🏻
i would love an empire 2 i hate the magic bs that total wars been wrapped up in the last few years it just no longer felt like total war.
I am not fan of total war fantasy genre but but if they can make a house of the dragon total war that would be nice
Empire Total war was one of my favorite and most frustrating total war games of all time haha. I always thought they’d make another one and just fix the bugs and AI logic. Also give us some freedom in Custom battles to use all the regional troops!!
@Total War
Make an Empire 2 already. It will be your highest selling game! Just Imagine Millions of Chinese 🇨🇳 fans buying the game to play as the Qing dynasty emperor in 1700s, Millions of Europeans🇪🇺 buying the game to roleplay their country's previous glory, Millions of Japanese 🇯🇵 Fans buying the game to play as the tokugawa shogunate conquering the globe with katanas, Millions of Americans 🇺🇸 buying the game to play USA, millions of Middle Eastern and African fans 🇹🇷 buying the game to restore Ottomans previous glory, millions of pirate fans buying the game just to raid trade routes from the Carribean to Asia🏴☠️😂. If you make it diverse as much as possible with many countries to play with. This game will sell 100M+ copies world wide 😉.
As fort and city maps I would like to see Rome an Attila Total War maps
What mod was the footage from?
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We all can dream. But for the moment (do not want to sound pessimistic), the current CA isn't the CA from older times. Will be a buggy mess as always and rather to fix it on the long term, they probably abandon ship as always. Games like this you need to think on the long term. But CA from today is a very short term minded gaming company. I really do wish this. But the reality hasn't been the best. I mean the Sophia devs are maybe the best devs out there. But yeah...CA is still CA.
Tw3k army fits empire 2 so much...
Are instant gaming codes safe to use? I mean is there a danger that steam punishes me?
I still play empire Total war. I have like 1500 hours playing lol
Needed so much more than Medieval 3 imo
Playing the Empire 2 mod right now...fun...fun...fun....
Just take examples of the mods and make it a standalone. Expand the map to more of the globe available for conquest. Include African, pacific & South American nations
It could be incredible
Total war empire 2 or A Westeros total war would be amazing
Fall of the Samurai will scratch that gunpowder itch fine until Empire 2 🫡
More likely we ll have Alice in Wonderland Total war...
People still saying the want "empire 2" or "medieval 3" as if its going to magically fix all of CAs problems. no, i don't want those games, i don't want them until CA fix their shit. Because if they make em now, they're going to be dogshit
^ This, especially the greedy DLC whoring.
Am i the only one that want a napoleon total war 2?
no
i think GTA VI will come out faster than Empire 2 : Total War
i love historical games and total war makes some of the best and i truly wish they make Empire 2 : Total War
literally every Total War fan wants it
We won t see Empire total war 2 in 20 years
stop coping
I love empire total war I just wished empire total war used the same battle engine as Rome Total War also I wished I had a super pc and could have thousands of soldiers XD
You should understand that most of americans for example don't know history and geography and are not drawn to historical titles: they just lack education and thus much of background information. Some of them even think that for example Europe is one country.
I hope this game focuses on the societal ramifications of colonialism. I also hope if we get an empire 2 total war it will address the issue of gun violence and its effect on society.
Would love a new Empire, but slavery is a bit of a hot topic now. So I doubt it. Also Opium = drugs would probably not be the best thing. I dont mind though.
CA: best I can give is Victorian era
Empire needs a campaign much closer to Victoria
What peole have failed to notice is that the same company and people that worked on the historical total wars before the release of Warhammer total war is long gone, they cant make historical total war games anymore
I would love but we won't have empire II.....only the mod
Has anyone see/herd about Star wars total war?
not happening. also if they do, i guarantee you'll hate it
Empire 2 better not remove fire by rank like shit napoleon did buggy my ass
I just don't think CA has what it takes to make Empire 2:s naval combat justice. They simply lack the know-how.
skibidi
how can empire be a mobile game and be good? it cannot
Empire coming to mobile is boo boo.
Second.
First
First!
i hope empire 2 whole world map
Thats a very very big map
@@EarthGeographicalRecon yes but more challenging and so interesting they don't do that i don't know why
What I’d do is have the Americas, Europe, Middle East & India but eventually you unlock the ‘scramble for Africa’ and have China and Japan as some kind of off-map entities that you can have missions into occasionally to open a trade port and open up resources (opium *cough*). I think you can get milk it for some interesting mechanics rather than just have them as more provinces to invade.
They will have 5 factions and the 5 will be sold separately as overpriced dlc. If they at least switched to a paradox style dlc system where they would have a lot of fleshed out factions instead of historically inaccurate few ones it would be at least a step in a direction of decent quality. Without a doubt it would have awful mechanics that would ruin the experience like HP bars and such and so since they would refuse to switch back to more immersive systems of their older games.
It is a series in decline and the only hope falls into smaller studios, competitors and indie developers who would be willing to undertake the journey of making a large scale turn based/rts game.
Empire 2 is the next historical title I want and have been wanting, even over Med 3! Another great video, Andy. CA needs to hear it from the mountain tops haha
You're a real one, brother!
Empire is one of my favourite TW games. If they can make its battles and whatnot as good as Napoleon, empire 2 would be perfect. And maybe add in different campaigns for different times, maybe a 1783 start so that you can play as the US or some other nations. And maybe with empire 2 you could go to parts of Japan and China for either trade or genuine theaters of war. I really hope they do it justice and combine napoleons battles with empires scale it would be so good.
Everyone used to say "We will never see another Victoria game", few years later we got it.
exactly, never say never!
And it is a true crap 😢
Are you talking about Victoria 3 from paradox? If so I totally agree that it’s total crap. I’d call Victoria 3 one of the worst video games of all time.
@@pittsburghpirateshat8950 Bro it is so boring. I really wanted to like it but it is impossible.
@@michadomeracki5910 It would be better if she didn't exist at all
The best start is 1600, because there is the biggest technological difference from the sword to the musket, and most of the world is nobody's - ready to be discovered.
Besides, in 1600 all European countries had a chance to be great. Including Portugal, Spain, Venice, Turkey, Poland, Sweden and Russia.
In Empire 1 from 1700, only Britain and the Marathas have such a chance, and a little bit France and Prussia.
Why wasn't France, after all, it was a great power, even though it lost almost all the colonies.
Uhhhhhhhhhh you are totally missing out on the potential greatest empire which were the Dutch, in the 1600’s this was the most significant country to be a worldly empire
If ya don't got ports ya f***ed in the 1700's 😆
Spain WAS great from 1600 till 1805, and it declined because of the treason of Napoleon
Even if CA will try to make sequel,well,they wll f..k up.Guys just understand,modern CA isnt that CA that made Empire,Shogun, Rome amd Attila.If it was still old CA they'll never let the company in that deep crisis.
That’s all I have ever wanted
ever since the first game honestly haha
I have lost all hope. RIP total war. 2000-2013. It was good while it lasted. I dont think we will ever see another main line historical Total war ever again.
You didn’t mentioned that you wanted a playable Norway but I saw that modded Norway gameplay😂
that goes without saying ;)
CA could do some substantial customer research. Instead they'll try to make another game geared for Esports
Stopped watching what I was watching because I saw this title in the watch next list and thought "No way, we don't have Empire 2 finally do we?" and Nope, we don't.. but I love that you're talking about it and I'll keep coming back hoping the next video is announcing it LOL!
@@Twizted86 proud to have been in your watch next list 🙏
Damn we are actually seeing a real mobile Empire Total War, and not those bad scammy ads we used to see all over in the late 2010’s.
We’re getting that before an Empire 2 is the funny part.
@@kendrox0994 I knooow! So true
I loved Empire, I really wished it would incorporate some of the updates to other TW games. I also hoped the time period from 1453-1700 would be covered by CA. Also, fewer cities makes the game a little boring. A zoom function would be great. Something between Thrones of Brittania and Attila.
I’m not picky I’ll take a Rome 3, Med 3, or Empire 2.
I personally would love an Empire 2 that starts maybe 1500-1900. With more of the world like Asia and Africa.
Would love to see it! I just finished a campaign as the United Provinces and had a great time. Nice seeing the Norwegian flag in the vid btw 😍
You will make another 50 of these videos before we get it😂
lmao, but I WILL BE HERE WHEN WE GET IT
Don't get me wrong, Empire is my favourite in the series, but it is by far the worst and most broken title in the series.
"I had 6 copies of Empire: Total War sat on my shelf intended for close gamer friends that I didn't send out because I was too embarrassed about the flaws. Old friends are the harshest critics"
Direct quote from Mike Simpson, the Creative Director for Empire total war.
Even CA was embarrassed by Empire, I imagine the mobile port will still be as much of a buggy mess, but I do hope this is a sign to try drum up some fresh interest in black powder and not a cashgrab.
we know they can do it right, the majority of players that's played Fall of the Samurai would agree.
Imma choose to be cautiously optimistic thinking that CA knows it deserves a second chance.
If any other reason than I wanna see modern day boom mechanics when a full broadside strikes the magazine of an opposing ship with modern graphics. 🎉
I hope you continue releasing videos regarding empire 2. Maybe that will open CA eyes because they seem to be blind regarding what fans really want. Don’t stop, please
To be honest, I prefer Medieval.
Empire 1 game engine is still the current game engine we are playing today.
Prople do want both Empires made with the same engine? I don't a like Remastered version, I prefer brand new game.
Ready to pay 1000 usd for empire 2 😂😂
We can only dream 😢Great video & footage!
Thank you! Gotta save the dream!
Full World Map
More Provinces
Longer time period (1700-1837)
Include other american independence wars (Chile, Argentina, Colombia, etc.).
I think start in 1600. By 1700 we have major empires already and several major ones already declining. 1600 is more of a fresh start for most to build into an empire. I think most players want that, build an empire from more humble beginnings. Rather than just taking over some major empire already existing. I mean who plays as the Ottomans and enjoys starting with all that land lol. I start with them and get rid of everything but Anatolia through rebellions and some just giving to the other nations.
Empire was my most played TW game until WH 2. I really want an Empire 2 that goes from the 1700s to the mid-late 1800s. I want to experience the Wars of Austrian and Spanish Succession, the Napoleonic Wars, the Austro-Prussian War, the Franco-Prussian war. And a larger time period could make tech more impactful. The main problem I see with that idea is pacing though.
@@boltsky1 remember, medieval 2 had an insane amount of those massive events. Crusades, mongols, black plague, gunpowder, timurids, and finally the Americas. Pacing was no issue, so I don’t see what the issue would be in such a game either
@@AndysTake that's an excellent point! And now I want to go play both Empire and Medieval 2 as a break from CK3. XD
Appreciate the reply and all the videos! TW was my first game franchise as a kid and it's stayed near and dear to my heart. Continue the great work :)
@@boltsky1 thank you so much, and thank you for watching! hope to see tw return to its greatness again
You could include the Crimea, South American wars of independence, American Civil war, Even the African wars against colonialism like the zulu wars.
Sorry to point out the writing on the wall, but the fact they made Empire mobile just proves they have no intention to create Empire 2 any time soon. Why on earth would they bother porting Empire to mobile if they knew they'd be developing Empire 2 in the foreseeable future?
They could market it to grow an interest for an Empire 2.
It makes no sense that they made three frigging three, three! Three warhammers!
Honestly - I would be extremely happy with a new Empire: total war expanding to China / South east Asia / Japan, Joseon (Korea) etc. for the true global dominance aspect while using fall of the samurai's battle engine which I think was as close to perfect as they could get.. I really don't care about graphics to be honest. I just want a game that makes sense and has pathfinding that a new age total war could absolutely achieve. CA could even make TONs of DLC with different expanded periods of history spanning different timelines/ wars after 1600 to even the US Civil War. The world is for the taking! Creative Assembly - Your move.
Does CA have a license on Total War? There is a Roblox game being made that is like total war. I imagine some other game devs could put something up that is similar to total war and is even better - provided they got funds and the time for it - in just some months. I’m a game dev myself so I think it’s possible, especially if it’s built by skilfully using open source stuff and putting it together. We could have a game similar to TW empire for sure! No need for CA to do it necessarily :p
Are there any games similar to total war, maybe indie games / really small games with potential to scale to something good?
I really think what we need is a Warhammer trilogy but for historical. They already regularly release multiple games based off the same engine, so CA should build a foundation for empire 2 by first making a medieval 3. Larger time period DLC could include map expansions, especially featuring the landmass that is being expanded into. Then a Total War: Renaissance game (1450-1650) could bridge the gap further expanding the world, finally ending with Empire 2 being a truly global game.
Give me 1066-1452, then 1452-1700, then 1700-1880.
Starting in 1600, and going until 1800, would be proper. Maybe even up until 1900, if done extremely well. But definitely start earlier than 1700. Give a time when Europe wasn’t so dominated with those major powers in the first Empire. Allow us to build those empires more, rather than just taking over at much higher points. Maybe even like 1550ish 🤷🏻♂️ A few historical liberties to open up possibilities in Africa, SA, and Asia. Have player reach a bit technologically limited until technologies are researched. Allow with the right moves, to advance a bit quicker than historically accurate, to allow a dominating rewrite of history and such. Keep it accurate but allow the potential for say Sicily to rival the British Empire if I play to such 🤷🏻♂️
Would absolutely love a sequel in this era. Still my favorite TW game despite the bugs
Also would be happy with Empire 2 being set in the Victorian era and progressing into WWI
I would pay 200$ for new Empire Total War game
they need to fix the end turn crash bug that they never bothered with as well as the bug that causes battles to lag up if you destroy a forts walls. Ive had empire since it came out and finally just had enough of it after over a thousand hours on it of mainly failed campaigns due to crashes and corrupted files. I would even get this crash if i took spain but if i helped the ai take it then the game would go on as normal
I would absolutely LOVE an Empire II. I still play Empire with mods till this day. There aren't many games in that kind of historical setting, unfortunately. I haven't really been able to get hooked on Paradox's games so far because I don't feel as immersed.