Will Comic Books Be Worthless in 25 Years? The Truth Might Make You Panic
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I have comic books I no longer want, where can I get rid of them ?
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That’s why you buy what you love. If you want to invest, buy stocks. Collectibles as investments are a fools game.
100%. Way too many people can’t grasp this.
@@donaldvonglitchenberger4108 Yes you can have great timing and luck, but how many comic book millionaires do you know? I know a ton of people that are stock/bond millionaires that are normal folks. There’s always exceptions. I made a ton on Beenie Babies back in the 90s. That doesn’t mean they were sound investments.
Since covid everyone and their mom is a reseller. Big investment.. bwhahaha. That's funny. Once the popularity for variants and art books die off.. you'll see 1$ bins explode lol
I buy what I like but I insure the books to use them as assets to borrow against. It’s art depending on the book it will always have value. But the hobby as a whole will die once us 80’s babies are gone
@@MontagaAMGDrope I’ve never really thought about it, but you might be right. There might come a time where the nostalgia factor isn’t there anymore. That will be the death of comics. They are too volatile for a pure investment.
Luckily comic book collecting existed long before the investment crowd got involved and will survive it if they were to leave. Some people just like to collect things and aren’t resellers. They don’t “make the hobby pay for itself”. They just have fun. A comic book collection is already “worthless” to anyone who never sells their comics (and is also priceless).
@@thepositivenerd spot on comment🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
After 2019, I have to let this hobby fund it self otherwise I'll have too much of my $$ from my 9-5 stuck it in that I would possibly never get back.
If it's within the hobby, I do not have to worry as much as I let the hobby fund itself. Also, this allows me to buy insane books.
I don't collect for value. I value my books because I love comics. Always have.
The answer to that question is NO. Books from before the 90's boom will continue to be valuable 25, 50, however many years in the future if society continues to exist. I know a fair amount about collectables as my grandfather was an archivist, and I spent a fair amount of time assisting him. Plenty of books from before comics ever existed are still sought by collectors, and have only increased in value while at the same time their content has become less relevant to society than ever.
You are exactly right. All the young kids aren't into physical comics. And once the 80s kids all grow old & die, comics will die with them. Not enough buyers in the future generations.
There a good amount of young kids that are into comic books, but it's definitely a much smaller amount. And most kids aren't reading digital comics, but they aren't into the floppy, and that's the problem.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture lots of young kids are into superhero movies n stuff but not the physical copies. Smaller audience because they have much better new things. The 80s kids all we had was comics n playing toys cuz we had 3 channels to watch n playing outside. So the newer Gen majority won't be collecting comics because it's not nostalgia for them
truth hurts
@@pitavtcwatts Being an educator, I see what the kids bring to school. A lot of Dogman, Star Wars Academy, and even Super Hero trade type books that are marketed to young readers. So there is the appeal there for the genre of both super heroes and comic book format, but yeah, floppy comics aren't the go too. They aren't accessible like they were for us, either, and that's a problem.
As a boomer and retired school teacher, kids don't read or are interested in comics anymore. If you've got large sums of expendable income and don't care about spending large amounts of money for the sake of nostalgia, go ahead.
I ❤ seeing panic or pessimism in down markets I’m buying in to. It’s all about timing.
lol can’t be mad at that!
No comics won't be worthless 25, 50, 100 or however many years from now. They are forms of pop culture and Americana that are timeless and always loved. Anyone who says they will be, doesn't have a clue.
Fair opinion, but to be so derogatory to those who may disagree with you is a bit comically, if I have to be honest. The thing is, no one truly knows. We have not lived past the generations that were born into the comic birth 'hayday." Once we all die out, how many people within the future generations will feel floppy comic books (outside of blue chip heritage keys) will matter?
If you collect as an investment then yes it's something you should think about
Collecting comics is a dying interest with the younger kids now. If it's not in their phones they don't care.
I think in 15-20 years, comic books will go the way of stamps. Do kids read comics? They don't even read, period. And they certainly don't collect stuff. Everything tied up in their phones.
All the people from 50 and up will be unloading their collections. Who's going to buy it? Whoever does will get stuck trying to sell it to 20-somethings. Good luck there.
The dollar will collapse, and these comics will just be worthless paper
The big two need a new supermarket newsstand initiative . Make comics available in physical locations again ! Kids would buy them if they were on eye level at the supermarket like they were back in the day . Just bc the world's gone digital doesn't mean everything melts into thin air.
U must be eating to many gummies!! I don't know one kid that can afford comic books of today!!! At 4, 6, 10 dollars each!!!? 🤔😎
I was just saying this in another comment response! Floppy comics simply aren't accessible. I do agree with James here too though, that price point is also a problem.
@JernosComicsPopCulture heck yeah , it is . I don't buy them anymore just because of that . Big two need to cut the number of titles in half , pay a few great writers and artists good, but drop the cover price. Who actually buys and reads all the weekly x or spidey books , bats, wolverine, books anyways. Or who can afford to? It would also streamline and make everything easier to understand for folks too
@@thecomickeeper5127 Exactly. I think the only reason they keep so many titles is because of variants. Variants continue to be a large majority of the primary market sales. So that's where the money is and the publishers aren't being creative outside of focusing on the current revenue driver.
As a boomer I have been saying this as a retired middle school teacher. Kids don't read comics anymore. I would love to have some expensive Marvel keys, but the cost is too much to gamble on considering future market speculations. As nostalgic as it would be for me to own a copy of ASM no. 1, I have tried to convince myself that reprints are just fine.
There are Collectors in their 20’s now, So of course Comics won’t got Out!!
There are. But even collectors in their late 20s are still millennials. But also, is the percentage of collectors shrinking every generation?
Heres my take bro. Im 48 (BOOMER! LOL).
Todays youth isnt as involved or interested in comics because there isnt enought NEW material to draw them in.... GOOD new material. Not this woke crap. Parents arent actively getting their kids involved and if they are trying they are finding out that they arent interested in these old-ass heroes LOL. Ive been trying to get my 13 year old into comics for a few years now and he liked some of them, Skybound Transformers, Cobra Commander. But he LOVES Sonic The Hedgehog, always has, owns every game. So I showed him the comic books and now he wants the whole run. While digging in back issues he found Godzilla books and he LOVE Godzilla so now he wants all the Godzilla books he can get. Publishers just need to kick it in gear with good and interesting stories like the new Energon Universe. My son said he wants more Transformers books. For me and my generation, we had the birth of Image Comics and it was HUGE for comics at the time. We got SPAWN and it was a huge hit. And the reason alot of younger people came to comics. Just like my son. First its Sonic then he wants Transformers. Comic book LCS's and publishers should be going to junior and high schools across America and doing comic book expos on campus with free give aways on Free Comic Book Days. Gain the interest.
You bring up a lot of good things, but I'm going to challenge you on a few. First off, you're not a boomer! lol. You are definitely too young. You're Gen X. Next, I challenge you to not fall into the whole "blame everything on woke" rhetoric. I'm not going to argue "politics," but the bottom line is that the majority of new comics books have nothing to do with "woke." But to your point, good stories - especially in the super hero genre - are hard to come by, and yes, a character coming out as gay gets more press because there is nothing else that they can sell for us to get excited about. There IS plenty of new material though. But we need quality over quantity.
I like some of your ideas on how to bring kids in, but good luck getting the publishers to do this. I feel like they don't feel it is a good investment to compete against new ways kids are consumer comic book type material, like Dogman books.
I love what you shared about your son. My sons had similar experiences with me, and now that they are 17 and 19, they both still read comics.
There will be value in Silver and Bronze Age key comics. A vast majority of people that are already priced out of Golden Age keys will be able to afford the Silver and Bronze Age Books but at a premium price.
Yes, but what about when those people die? Who is left to care?
@@JernosComicsPopCulture people are always going to care about Wolverine, Spider-Man, X-Men, The Punisher. I’ve cared about those characters for over 30yrs. I use to collect baseball cards when I was a kid and I thought the hobby was dead. I look at the prices of some of these new cards and some of them exceed the value of my whole comic book collection.
@@robertplancarte9178 But once again, you are a part of the generation that grew up in the prime of these character and of the floppy comic book. I agree that everyone will always care about those characters, but caring about those characters doesn't always translate into comic book form. How many young kids or younger generations LOVE these characters because of the MCU, or the Into the Spider-Verse, but have never picked up a floppy comic in their lives? A good handful of them. And THAT is the disconnect. These characters will be around for generations, but their IPs no longer translate so much into the floppy comic.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture well Sir im very happy to take your early ASM collection off your hands whenever you feel the market has bottomed out😁😁😁😁
@@robertplancarte9178 We will all be gone by then! lol
Older high grade super hero comics will always go up in value, but over 95% of what's printed today will sit untouched in 50 cent bins.
The same people that keep the value of those books up are getting older. Can younger generations continue the same trend? The amount of people coming into the hobby shows that there might not be enough to sustain that upward trend once we all die off.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture For buying newer material yes, but not for gold, silver, and bronze. These books will always hold value, but the rate for value increase may slow or come to a near stop depending on the economy.
But we are assuming that people 3 generations from now will value these books the same way we do. And that’s where the true answer to this is unknown.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture I will not be around 3 generations to worry about it. I plan to eventually sell my personal collection. There's a lot of material I bought decades ago for just a dollar or two now worth over $50. It all goes up every new price guide as long as I've had them and can't picture that changing anytime soon.
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@@JernosComicsPopCulture no doubt!
Comic collecting is suppose to a fun hobby. If your doing it make a living, your in it for the wrong reason.
Most people that care about the future value of a collectible aren’t in it to make a living, though.
It wouldn't suprise me. Where exactly are the next generation of collectors coming from? I'm ageing out, already older than my mother ever got to.
So we have 2 issues, one is youngsters not caring about the hobby and secondly abundance. Think how many books will be dumped onto the market by inheriting families who just want to make a few quid.
Great points.
There will be valleys and peaks but the reality is that if there isn't new blood picking up NCBD books as a kid and collect back issues as they get older, then the hobby will slowly fade over decades. But on the other side, as long as people keep crapping out kids and population keeps doubling then due to natural disasters like hurricanes and fires, eventually the available copies of anything depreciate and only the true classics survive with value. In 1000+ years, only 5 comics will still exist. I don't mean 5 of the best, no, I mean 5 random ass comics from a more recent era to represent the medium just due to the fact it's paper.
Great points!
Of course they will be worse less in 50 years. Youth now are not interested nowadays in comics or even collecting.
If the death of the comic book does ever happen,it won't be because they're not desirable!! It'll be because there TOO DAM expensive!!! There was a time when kids, 6 to 106 years old!!! Were able to buy a comic for 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, even 50 cents was exceptable!!! But 4, 5, 7, 10 dollars a comic book is beyond the average person, let alone a kid!! I have stop buying many of my favorites, because somewhat stupid to continue with the madness of trying to keep up with the great stories!!! The truth will set us all free !!! Go digital!!!!👍🤗😎
Hi James. I actually agree with you, but this is different than comics being valuable on the secondary market, which is what I was talking about in this video. But yes, I've discussed price points of new comics before and it is absolutely not sustainable for floppy comics long term.
Comic collecting is fun.
I agree, John!
What you’re saying is absolutely plausible. In 40-50 years, maybe sooner, most of the books may be worthless. But I could also envision another dystopian future with Ai as a major factor. What if it gets so good, it’s indistinguishable from the best artists out there? Less and less people go into the field, human artists are rendered almost obsolete. Then art from this era and before is tagged “human made.” Maybe that becomes a sought-after collectible in itself, as the “artist” becomes an endangered species of sorts. Ever see the movie “Her” with Joaquin Phoenix? No one could put two sentences together anymore because of technology so they hire people to write personal messages. Hell, from what I read daily on social media, we might only be a decade or two away from that! 😂
Wow! I love this concept! And I have not seen that movie but I will be putting it on my list!
Comics are already getting worthless, the supply of these books are insane!!! lol .... and I see no young people in the hobby at all. its over
There are young people. But not enough to sustain.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture Yeah, 90% down from history.... I rather collect Marvel cards, they are 100000x more scarce
I bought comics because I enjoy the medium,never saw it as a way to pay off bills.
I’m glad I bought all my books in the early to mid 90’s at cover price lol.
Comics will always be worth a buck or two to certain people like any old media. Certain 78rpm records were worth lots because it was the only way to listen to the song. Then digital recording technology happened.
Some Alienz going find my stash of comicz 1000s of yearz from now in some airtight underground bunker somewhere!😘
haha!
They gonna find our funny books next to a stack of girlie mags and think we were some really kinky MFs
The boom might happen again soon. Kids might move to their next phase soon. Gen Z collector phase will advent soon. It takes a while.
Yeah you never know. I mean, look at how sports cards have made a comeback, but the difference their is that sports are always relevant to the younger generations.
I am also worried about houses since it's a 3:1 ratio between generations. Same with classic cars, guitars, land, stocks, the love for our country since 73% of my generation hates it, cards, gold & silver since the majority of my friends dont give a fuck about metals and to them its worthless since they dont know and refuse to learn.
I let this hobby fund itself so whatever happens I do not have too much $$ into it.
The kids don't don't care about comics so I would imagine comics will drop in price big time in 10 or 20 years from now and that is why I sold a lot of my comics and just gave two short boxes of the comics I care about. I am gonna get a TMNT#1 and Superman's girlfriend Lois Lane #70 and call it quits.
Can I have it after.
Some kids do, but a shrinking number for sure. But the question is, when they grow up, will there be an interest for them to at THAT point, gain interest? But if there is no childhood nostalgia involved, I don't it would matter to them like it does collectors of today.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture Does that mean the books will drop in price in 10 or 20 years if the new generation doesn't care about comics cause that means we can get all the key books cheap.
Generational Amnesia…it is already decimating the toy industry. Hasbro and Mattel know their major customers are Gen-X and early millennial adult collectors. They have altered their business models to feed that adult market. With Mattel Creations, HasLab and Hasbro Pulse they are direct selling exclusives to the adult collectors. Hasbro and Mattel know their days are numbered as mass market toy companies. The kids are not that interested in action figures and dolls…yet adult collectors are still buying them.
Man this is such a good talking point! Every time I go into a Wal-Mart or Target, for example, TMNT and Transformers: It's the retro TMNT or the 85 Studio Series Transformers that are always sold out, and it's the new cartoony versions of both that are still full on the shelves.
Im 48. GEN X. I cant imagine books being valuable once my gen is gone.. and honestly, im smart enough to know not to collect as an investment. I collect mostly because of nostalgia, and because ive been a collector since i was a kid. The newer generations are not. Im currently thinning out my collection. No runs, and no minor keys. Im only going to keep slabbed keys: ASM 129, Marvel SL #5 etc. Atleast then.. when i die, my family wont be left with longboxes full of trash lol
Good points!
I'm not worried at all, 60+ years of marvel and they are still relevant. 2 billion more people in the world since I started collecting. Pandemic proved where people put their money, or when given the money. There's a collecting army out there, its just hard too see right now.
the people who put money into comics during the pandemic were 40 year olds like me that grew up on comics. i have 9 nieces and nephews between the ages of 8-15 who have never even seen a comic book. Why on earth would they spend money in 20 years on comic books that they have no emotional connection to? Sorry but you’re dead wrong on this one lol And all the data supports my argument
@@donaldvonglitchenberger4108 well, MCU is at 8 billion in revenue now, and your nieces grew up with over 10 years of the MCU highest grossing films ever included in this. Nostalgia buys are built on experience, most people had a great one leading up too infinity war. Hence your right and wrong...im buying a movie poster for 'last action hero'. No one care about that, but I grew up with the movie so I out the money there.and so will they too come.
Both of you make good points. But Brandon, I'm going to challenge you here. 2 Billion more people in the world today, yet comic sales are at their lowest. Multi-billion dollar Marvel movie franchise, but comic sales are at their lowest. The biggest problem? Super hero success in TV and movies isn't translating into any real growth in the actual comic book market, especially the primary market. So while you used these variables as ways to defend your argument of why you aren't worry, when you actually put them into proper context, they paint a picture of why we should be even MORE worried.
As for the pandemic, Donald is right. The majority of people boosting the market are people I'm talking about in this video. Young kids weren't all of a sudden interested in back issue comics OR the primary market. Just like young kids aren't turning a dollar bin book into a $200 book when we get a trailer or when RDJ shows up at SDCC. It's all people between the ages of 30-65. The majority of my viewership? 35-55yo. Under 25 is about 1 or 2%. Ouch.
So, nostalgia is alive and well for middle aged men, but it begins and almost ends there. Kids are reading comic books these days to some capacity, but it isn't in the form of the floppy comic, and they aren't concerned with back issues like we were when we were kids. They read manga, trades, or young reader books like Dogman and Jedi Acadamy.
So while things could shift, the data doesn't look good.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture Let me sleep on this one, ill come back
@@JernosComicsPopCulture I'm back and i think your right data wise. I'm still fascinated that a comic boom actually occurred. that tells me i feel its where people will place their money once they have more of a budget. I'm riding on a hunch with a hunchback listening too nickelback.
Marvel owned movie theaters for a decade. I would have had a small comic shop, or newsstand type creation in every single theater. The big two don’t care why should we. I’ll be dead. Dead markets:: toy trains, lunch boxes, tin toy soldiers. Sooner or later the supply will meet demand with most books. I hear all the time it’s wrong to buy what like, but if you don’t like comics so many easier ways to coin.
I hear you. I will say, though, Marvel can't just set up shop in movie theaters. A movie theater isn't a vendor marketplace, but I understand what you're saying. Over the last 15 plus years, there could have been a lot better marketing to get these movie goers interested in the actually comics.
@@JernosComicsPopCulture Seen it with my own eyes. In 1989 Batman came out. Theater in Astoria Queens set up a kiosk, they sold program, movie posters, buttons. I was nine had to have a Joker button.
@@fiddlechips8555 so you’re talking strictly promotional materials? Which they already do, but you’re saying include some type of free comic as a promotional item? That I think is perfect. Simply selling comics on the movie theater is what I thought you were suggesting.
I'm gonna invest in comics about Beanie Babies, ain't no way those will ever crash in value!
Beanie Babies In Space
Beanie Babies Secret Wars
Beanie Babies Space Balls
Beanie Babies Blood Hunt
Beanie Babies Cherry Poptart
The Savage Sword of Beanie Babies
Beanie Babies Civil War
The Walking Dead Beanie Babies
Beanie Babies The Killing Joke
lollll
You forgot Barbie Beanie Babies.
Ehh ppl will always buy and collect comics. Ppl love the art and the art is getting better. This guy no zero about what he’s talking. Comics are blowing up in value in my eyes as we speak. I see comics being sold for amounts you just don’t see.
lol I appreciate your honest opinion, but to say I don't know what I'm talking about? Bold statement my guy. I've been collecting for almost 40 years, and I've studied the market for over a decade. To say people will always buy and collect comics is to assume that comics will matter to future generations that aren't even born yet. People in the 1960 probably said the same thing about stamps.
I'll drop some "facts" on you. For primary market publication, print runs increased from the 1950s through the early 1990s. Over the last 30 years, print runs continue to decrease because the market for new comics continues to shrink. This speaks to who the primary market for comics is, and this primary market is getting old and dying out.
Here's another fact: the majority of the primary market sales for comics is manga and trades, while the majority of floppy comic sales are only variants.
Here's another fact: while a few specific comics are "blowing up in value as we speak," most likely because of short term movie hype (FOMO), which won't hold, the majority of the comic book market is down between 40% - 70%.
Here's yet another fact: Comic art is actually dying, and AI is taking over and is becoming an extreme problem. Art across the board is actually becoming more and more lazy, with good art focused on the variant market. But artists aren't making enough money, and I guarantee that in 5 years, over half of the top named artist will be using AI.
Everything I said in this video is a hypothetical. Never said it was for certain, but everything I listen in this comment is a fact, and those facts prove that the floppy comic is in trouble. So, while I am all for differences of opinions, good opinions should be backed up by factual data. Next time you want to call someone out for "not knowing what they are talking about," I would make sure you know who you're talking to, and make sure you have some type of factual data to back up your statement. Take care.