Minor mistake: You CAN actually BLOCK the defib, although it doesn't get reflected. In your video the block failed because they were aiming at your feet instead of your body. Loved the Hydrogen collider at 6:20
Pretty sure it's a discrepancy between FP and TP animations, but you could be right. Another explanation is what I talk about at the start of the video: deflect sometimes just don't work. And because of this, I should have tried the defib more than once... Thanks for the heads up!
The ending was everything I wanted it to be. F’ing great video man. The infinite block plus the finals music was literally perfect lol glad to be a dual blade user !
I’m pretty sure the damage reflection is variable based on where your cross hair is. If you’re deflecting at the edge of its range you’ll deflect only about 40% damage
Would like to see more vids like this for mastery. I definitely like them and they can work if you put *a lot* of effort in. I'm not there yet, but I'd love to know more about how these new weapons work so I can master them faster.
I love this - as a dual blade main myself its the most fun ive had in the finals in a while besides acting like im in AOT lmao. Def have had some crazy reflects.
Nice vid, very informative. As I understand it ( non interactions being considered) the deflect is more of a cone of probability type of thing, and the closer you are the more likely it is to work. The rest is just 80% dmg reduction. Which is nice but shouldn't to be abused without ample caution.
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
but how loose can I be with my deflects or the angle I aim them in? is it like the riot shield where it blocks essentially nothing and covers like my forearm and not much else? Do I deflect when I'm supposed to be shot or is there a hitbox for it? ykno is it like a deflecto-gel smothered on the front of my character or is it like a parry like dark souls or tf2's airblast just without the timing aspect. hey talking about the timing aspect, this weapon could've had a lot more depth if it WERE based on timed-parries giving perfectly accurate counterattacks instead of how it is now
I intended to talk about it, but because it's not a weapon guide and this kind of knowledge is not useful for the rest of the video, I just removed it from the script altogether! The angle is not very generous. It's way worse than the riot shield, and you don't give the riot shield a lot of credit. You deflect when you are supposed to get shot, but you can still get shot while deflecting if the angle from the damage source and your crosshair is too high. I guess the best is to get a feel for it in the training range by using the dummies that constantly shoot. And I do agree that no timing required and no stamina/cooldown + no mobility ability make the weapon bland. Like the riot shield. Except it's worse.
@@Jinko_ nah I'm exaggerating the riotshield comment, I like it myself, makes me feel like a one-handed build in elden ring, it just feels inconsistent at times. I do have your vids regarding it on my watch later though, I will give it another shot after I do proper research on it.
@@Jinko_ do one on the sledge yea? I may've been a 357 main across the betas but the sledge has practically not dropped from my hand the second the game released in 1.0
OK I have follow up questions; at the start of the video you say that sometimes the deflections don't work? If sometimes the deflections do not work then surely infinite deflections would not be possible because eventually one of them would fail?
I can't explain this bug either... But yeah sometimes you deflect and nothing is sent back. We did have more trouble in some private games than others due to it.
I'm curious if you've noticed the same possible bug with deflect that I've been noticing. It seems reflected damage an kills caused by reflect don''t count towards your totals.
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
Great video, man, new sub, but I still don’t understand something, with the arrows you said that it won’t always reflect, so how did you do the infinite reflect?
Thanks for the sub! It doesn't always deflect but it's a bug that I cannot explain. When it does deflect, then there is no problem and it can keep deflecting forever in this setup.
Agai n i try today to play dual blades, and at practice i dont see too send back the bullets to give damage in normal game cause is to fast i see reflect butt i dont know if i am deflecting
I make a long list of tests, then try them all out with a person for about two hours. Then I trim everything, look back at the clips, get more ideas, make the thumbnails, then try more thing, get carried away, record things for another video or make a discovery… then I write the script, start editing, realize I forgot to record some interactions, go record them. Then I realize I’m missing even more and go record them. Every time, I need to ask someone to come start a private match with me and do what I ask them, else I could not make this content. Then I edit for hours, and finally post it! So, a few days each time, and many hours. I’m glad it’s paying off, been doing it for years only to get 600-1000 views
@@Jinko_ I appreciate the transparency and honesty 🤣. I edit all my videos too + married and work a full time job so I feel ya there. Was just genuinely curious cause I just discovered ya and I like the way you put things together. Also smart of you to utilize the spectator mode in private matches 👀. I didn't even think of that.. going to be doing that when I get home 🙏
So what is the radius of deflection? How far Y and how far X can I deflect projectiles and gain that 80% damage reduction? I know you have to be aiming at the enemy like you're wielding a gun to defect and hit the enemy with their own bullets, but sometimes I just need defense and I'm not focusing on killing an enemy super far away 😂
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
@@Jinko_ It's because I've had a situation where 2 people were shooting at me, and something seemed as if it wasn't quite working as intended. It could've just been the weird angles that the deflect doesn't work, but I felt like I was always deflecting only one of the enemies' bullets
Something i havent tested and sadly didnt seem to be answered here was shotguns? It doesnt make sense for an entire shotgun's spread of bullets, so im curious how the calculations work
@@Jinko_ thanks for clarifying Yay consistent gameplay experience Boo unrealistic To be fair slower projectiles like grenades, knives, bows etc shoild be better blocked than bullets (especially high fire rate) anyway so this is still a very gamey wrapon as opposed yo realistic so thats not too bad
@@Jinko_ I saw that but did you do it with a tracking dart. I'm wondering if constantly applying the tracking effect behaves strangely. If you did that then I'm blind lol. Also have you considered trying a full lobby of mediums with blades and one light to see if you can use one tracking dart to hit everyone if you line up the deflects right. And on a more unrelated note assuming there's still a way to get out of the practice zone as a heavy it would be cool to see someone reach another person's training grounds using heavy's goo airship before they patch it out.
@@Bananabob39 Yes, you are blind, watch again please! For the circle deflect, the angle is sadly way too small for it to be possible... Or so we think. And for the last thing, it's still extremely easy to get out so that's a good idea! Thanks
Good video but I'll quote one thing from Wikipedia bc I'm tired of this. The term "rocket-propelled grenade" is a backronym from the Russian acronym РПГ (Ручной Противотанковый Гранатомёт, Ruchnoy Protivotankovy Granatomyot), meaning "handheld anti-tank grenade launcher".
@@Jinko_ I assure you there is no Medium Melee main running around saying how OP Dual Blades is lol. Its genuinely an inferior Riot Shield, both of which compete for being the worst melee options in the Finals. You just showed us how worthless the deflect is against half the tools in the game you flat out can't counter.
Ok the infinite deflection was awesome great video man.
Appreciate it!
Spoiler: I get eliminated a lot in the video
The recipe for a good video
well u made this video possible
Your sacrifices were worth our amusement.
Great video!! Really enjoyed the infinite deflect part.
Glad to hear it!
Minor mistake:
You CAN actually BLOCK the defib, although it doesn't get reflected.
In your video the block failed because they were aiming at your feet instead of your body.
Loved the Hydrogen collider at 6:20
Pretty sure it's a discrepancy between FP and TP animations, but you could be right. Another explanation is what I talk about at the start of the video: deflect sometimes just don't work. And because of this, I should have tried the defib more than once... Thanks for the heads up!
The ending was everything I wanted it to be. F’ing great video man. The infinite block plus the finals music was literally perfect lol glad to be a dual blade user !
Im glad you liked it so much!
it was a pleasure helping you Jinko 😄
❤️
I really wanna see someone doing this for the entire game XD
Technically possible since it does go on forever!
ACKSCHUHALALALALALY it stands for "Ruchnoy Protivotankovyy Granatomot" which means "Handheld Anti-Tank Grenade-launcher"
Grenade 😳
07:03 I think I saw a meme like that with two guys in suits once 😄 also very informative and well made video!
Thank you!
This deserves way mor attention, it's so well made and the infinite deflect is so cool
Commenting goes a long way! Thanks a lot ☺️
Now we need Alt marksman for true ultrakill experience
Ah yes, as a medium player, if you're up agaiant a sniper: just switch to the sniper rifle that mediums totally have access to.
that infinite deflect was sick🤣🤣
Great video, damnnnnn. The infinite deflect is so epic
I’m pretty sure the damage reflection is variable based on where your cross hair is. If you’re deflecting at the edge of its range you’ll deflect only about 40% damage
Never heard of that, would be a good thing to test!
very nicely made vid. loved the cinematic sequence with the tracking dart infinite deflect. so clean
Would like to see more vids like this for mastery. I definitely like them and they can work if you put *a lot* of effort in. I'm not there yet, but I'd love to know more about how these new weapons work so I can master them faster.
both informative and funny video. I really like your comedy style.
I appreciate that!
Soon as deflecting bullets became a thing, i knew this vid would start existing lol
I love this - as a dual blade main myself its the most fun ive had in the finals in a while besides acting like im in AOT lmao. Def have had some crazy reflects.
You really went wild with this season! Great vids since OB.
Appreciate it!
Finally! Was waiting for someone to post a breakdown like this.
Good content is starting good job mon pote
Awesome video man, earned a follow!
Thank you!
we gotta see the longest chain of tracking dart deflected
Exactly the video I was searching for days about dual blade ! Merci
Glad I could help!
Nice vid, very informative. As I understand it ( non interactions being considered) the deflect is more of a cone of probability type of thing, and the closer you are the more likely it is to work. The rest is just 80% dmg reduction. Which is nice but shouldn't to be abused without ample caution.
Yes, a cone like other guns when not aiming down sight
Omg that is so amazing, nice video, subscribed
Awesome! Thank you!
I am still interested to learn more about it's hitbox vs the riot shield: What does it cover? What angles does it protect from?
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
thank you for testing the deflect x deflect
Amazing video explaining the mechanics of the weapon!, really hoping they give an small buff to the weapon to make it viable.
but how loose can I be with my deflects or the angle I aim them in?
is it like the riot shield where it blocks essentially nothing and covers like my forearm and not much else?
Do I deflect when I'm supposed to be shot or is there a hitbox for it?
ykno is it like a deflecto-gel smothered on the front of my character or is it like a parry like dark souls or tf2's airblast just without the timing aspect.
hey talking about the timing aspect, this weapon could've had a lot more depth if it WERE based on timed-parries giving perfectly accurate counterattacks instead of how it is now
I intended to talk about it, but because it's not a weapon guide and this kind of knowledge is not useful for the rest of the video, I just removed it from the script altogether!
The angle is not very generous. It's way worse than the riot shield, and you don't give the riot shield a lot of credit.
You deflect when you are supposed to get shot, but you can still get shot while deflecting if the angle from the damage source and your crosshair is too high. I guess the best is to get a feel for it in the training range by using the dummies that constantly shoot.
And I do agree that no timing required and no stamina/cooldown + no mobility ability make the weapon bland. Like the riot shield. Except it's worse.
@@Jinko_ nah I'm exaggerating the riotshield comment, I like it myself, makes me feel like a one-handed build in elden ring, it just feels inconsistent at times. I do have your vids regarding it on my watch later though, I will give it another shot after I do proper research on it.
@@de-ment It's my main weapon and I intend to make more videos about it! The ones I have so far are quite old already
@@Jinko_ do one on the sledge yea?
I may've been a 357 main across the betas but the sledge has practically not dropped from my hand the second the game released in 1.0
@@de-ment I don't play sledge but I know a great sledge player and I'm begging them to make content because they play it so well
OK I have follow up questions; at the start of the video you say that sometimes the deflections don't work? If sometimes the deflections do not work then surely infinite deflections would not be possible because eventually one of them would fail?
I can't explain this bug either... But yeah sometimes you deflect and nothing is sent back. We did have more trouble in some private games than others due to it.
best the finals youtuber is back!
pls make a advanced video about the riot shield too
Thank you! I want to do that yes!
when i block there is nord dot crosshair in middel how do u have it?
The crosshair is for dealing damage with the deflected bullets
If you don’t deal damage there is none
@@Jinko_ i know but i dont have the dot in my screen
@@iwantyou9944 Oh that's a crosshair option in the settings
Woww thant single bullet deflection was clean
that was artwork
Thank you for your helpful guidance!
I'm curious if you've noticed the same possible bug with deflect that I've been noticing. It seems reflected damage an kills caused by reflect don''t count towards your totals.
Never checked tbh
How big is the blocking hitbox? Can you take damage when getting shot in the feet while blocking for example?
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
that was worth the watch gonna go try dual blades now lol thanks
I needed this information. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, man, new sub, but I still don’t understand something, with the arrows you said that it won’t always reflect, so how did you do the infinite reflect?
Thanks for the sub! It doesn't always deflect but it's a bug that I cannot explain. When it does deflect, then there is no problem and it can keep deflecting forever in this setup.
@@Jinko_ ohhhhhh, I thought it was some mechanic of the blades, didn’t expect it to be a bug lol, thanks for explaining tho;)
That was sooooo fun to watch
the power of the drak side.
Hello, please, make more content on The Finals game! Great video!!!
Thanks, will do!
I love when that stupid cat shows up lmao
☝️😸
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if you stand normally, and you deflect, but they shoot for the leg, do you still deflect?
Depends on where you are looking at and where they shoot exactly but yes what you describe can happen easily
Awesome stuff
I am just wondering and it wasn't specified in the video, but can you deflect stun gun?
You can’t!
@@Jinko_ Oh, that's unfortunate :(
Agai n i try today to play dual blades, and at practice i dont see too send back the bullets to give damage in normal game cause is to fast i see reflect butt i dont know if i am deflecting
It's bugged and lag makes it worse, very inconsistent sadly
How many hours does it take you to film/edit one of these videos?
Very entertaining video man 😂🎉🎉🎉
I make a long list of tests, then try them all out with a person for about two hours. Then I trim everything, look back at the clips, get more ideas, make the thumbnails, then try more thing, get carried away, record things for another video or make a discovery… then I write the script, start editing, realize I forgot to record some interactions, go record them. Then I realize I’m missing even more and go record them. Every time, I need to ask someone to come start a private match with me and do what I ask them, else I could not make this content.
Then I edit for hours, and finally post it! So, a few days each time, and many hours. I’m glad it’s paying off, been doing it for years only to get 600-1000 views
@@Jinko_ I appreciate the transparency and honesty 🤣. I edit all my videos too + married and work a full time job so I feel ya there. Was just genuinely curious cause I just discovered ya and I like the way you put things together.
Also smart of you to utilize the spectator mode in private matches 👀. I didn't even think of that.. going to be doing that when I get home 🙏
So what is the radius of deflection? How far Y and how far X can I deflect projectiles and gain that 80% damage reduction? I know you have to be aiming at the enemy like you're wielding a gun to defect and hit the enemy with their own bullets, but sometimes I just need defense and I'm not focusing on killing an enemy super far away 😂
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
Ah, now I see why the servers were a bit laggy lately.
You really tested a lot of stuff. I am still not sure how big the deflect hitbox is
Multiple people asked the same questions about the hitbox, and it sure is quite unintuitive and even buggy. I might just make a "Dual blades & Riot shield blocking VISUALIZED" video, something like that! Thanks for commenting about it. :)
Damn that is cool.
😂😂 This was amazing !
Im glad you liked it! ❤️
Enjoyed. Subscribed.
Awesome, thank you!
Les doubles lame sont vrm un belle ajou au jeu
Surprised you didn’t show the taser I believe it works swear I reflected one once
You can't deflect it. Tested, didn't show!
Great video
Cet accent français de qualité 👌🙃
But can you deflect projectiles from multiple enemies at once?
I didn't try but because you can deflect multiple bullets during infinite deflect it's basically the same thing so I would say yes
@@Jinko_ It's because I've had a situation where 2 people were shooting at me, and something seemed as if it wasn't quite working as intended. It could've just been the weird angles that the deflect doesn't work, but I felt like I was always deflecting only one of the enemies' bullets
@TheTiagones i might add this to a vidoe I planned about riot shield and dual blades hitbox es!
@@Jinko_ I'll look forward to it
Great video
Thanks!
Merci bro et surtout pour l'accent anglais coupé a la dual blade ahah
Énorme
Something i havent tested and sadly didnt seem to be answered here was shotguns? It doesnt make sense for an entire shotgun's spread of bullets, so im curious how the calculations work
I cut it from the video because I found it boring, but yes you do send back multiple pellets!
@@Jinko_ thanks for clarifying
Yay consistent gameplay experience
Boo unrealistic
To be fair slower projectiles like grenades, knives, bows etc shoild be better blocked than bullets (especially high fire rate) anyway so this is still a very gamey wrapon as opposed yo realistic so thats not too bad
bro are u french ? ur accent sound like it ?
Keep up with video like that i love it ! ;)
Yes I am! And thanks!
Sad green cyborg ninja dide noises*
BOULETTTTTTTT BAGUETTE
This weapon is op against heavy machine gun and any shotgun lol
Since when does the defibrilator do damage
Not sure if forever but at least season 1
Riot shield need serious bufs
Holy jedi
Wrong, RPG stands for ручной противотанковый гранатомёт, which can be translated as "handheld anti-tank grenade launcher".
That still includes the word "grenade" so the nerd cat is wrong!
Peak content
I love how everyone compares tge deflect to genji like overwatch is the one that created tge concept.
For most people, me included, it’s the only fps game we ever saw a deflect mechanic in before the finals
you can block dual katana mele attacks
Ang melee attack yes
I don't show literally everything, would be too long to record!
@@Jinko_ true also the infinite reflect was sick
how about shotgun?
You deflect each pellet individually
Let's gooooo another vid
U could have used the metal gear solid ost😂
J’ai envie de boulette IKEA maintenant 🤤🤤
J’ai ri
Subscribed because funny
That’s nice
What if you deflect a tracking dart infinitely
I literally did it
@@Jinko_ I meant deflecting it into a second medium to constantly deflect it
@@Bananabob39 Have you not watched the video? That's literally the thing I call infinite deflect. :)
@@Jinko_ I saw that but did you do it with a tracking dart. I'm wondering if constantly applying the tracking effect behaves strangely. If you did that then I'm blind lol.
Also have you considered trying a full lobby of mediums with blades and one light to see if you can use one tracking dart to hit everyone if you line up the deflects right.
And on a more unrelated note assuming there's still a way to get out of the practice zone as a heavy it would be cool to see someone reach another person's training grounds using heavy's goo airship before they patch it out.
@@Bananabob39 Yes, you are blind, watch again please!
For the circle deflect, the angle is sadly way too small for it to be possible... Or so we think.
And for the last thing, it's still extremely easy to get out so that's a good idea! Thanks
I like the blades but the deflect is wildly inconsistent, I'm dying more than I can eleminate
Yeah it definitely has some bugs and the hitbox it not very generous
Dope
Did I missed something?! Why no one talks about his "keys" - "X", "A", "G", "E" and "scroll up" for a shot?! How does he move? lol
French keyboard layout is AZERTY… not QWERTY…
And scroll up is to switch to my main gun!
@@Jinko_ Broooo never heard of "AZERTY" damn
Good video but I'll quote one thing from Wikipedia bc I'm tired of this.
The term "rocket-propelled grenade" is a backronym from the Russian acronym РПГ (Ручной Противотанковый Гранатомёт, Ruchnoy Protivotankovy Granatomyot), meaning "handheld anti-tank grenade launcher".
Oops
@@Jinko_ I didn't know about your channel and you seem to make very good quality content. You've earned yourself a sub 👍
@@SessesSniper Thanks!
8:13 sekiro pvp be like
aint no fucking way it can deflect when I shoot at their feet but it does which is absolute nonsense
Boulets
Naaaaw bruh not the blade ball in the finals
The what?
hi dude i love ur accent
Cool🎉
If only the deflect works during actual gameplay ..... From my personal experience it only works 30% of the time
I played it for a few hours now, and I think that reflect is pretty solid.
@@MeblIkea probably the internet, it definitely not working for me.
Now do a video on how garbage Dual Blades are on top of the inconsistent nature of deflect
Like with everything else in the finals, half the players call it garbage and the other half call it OP.
@@Jinko_ I assure you there is no Medium Melee main running around saying how OP Dual Blades is lol. Its genuinely an inferior Riot Shield, both of which compete for being the worst melee options in the Finals. You just showed us how worthless the deflect is against half the tools in the game you flat out can't counter.
Umm, shotguns?
You deflect each pellet individually
i could fall asleep to your voice #BBC BRING BACK CASHOUT ;(
ASMR video at 100k subs
Boulet
Baguette
RPG ????
2:59
J'ai l'impression que tu as un accent français
Your accent makes me feels so american