Andy’s DIY: 2005 Honda Pilot Headliner replacement
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2018
- Sagging head liner had to go!. Much easier with 2 people due to its size, but it can be done with one person. Material cost was about $85 (Headliner fabric & adhesive spray) Should be similar on most Honda's.
I really like my '05 Pilot and I didn't want to start pulling and pushing where I shouldn't. You showed all the details I needed to see, thank you.
Sold mine with 250k miles. Original tranny (with shift sensors changes). Ran strong. Glad to help
Hi, Andy. Thank you for the video and guidance. I just redid the headliner in our 2005 Pilot, which I probably would not have tried without seeing your video. I purchased three yards of grey headliner fabric from a Joann's store. They had it online, but I wanted to see and measure the fabric and make sure it was not folded or wrinkled, and it had some wrinkles at the store even though it was on a large bolt, but it didn't make much of difference in the end. It shows as 54 inches wide online, but it was actually about 56+ inches wide in the store, and this extra width was definitely good to have as it would've been really close otherwise. The grey fabric is a little darker than the original in the Pilot, which is still on the visors and sun roof cover, but the contrast is not bad. I was able to get the headliner out by myself, but my wife helped me get it back in as it is tight getting it over the upper cladding of the roof posts and keep it from hanging up on all the things overhead / under the roof. I used masking tape on the top edges of the roof post cladding to help the recovered headliner slide over it since the cladding has fairly sharp edges. I also put masking tape on the ends of the light cables so it was easier to thread them back through the holes in the liner when re-installing. I covered our ping pong table with protective paper (like contractors use on floors), and this was a great surface to use for removing the old fabric and then recovering the fiberglass. The fabric is glued to a formed fiberglass mat / shell, which cracked on the edges in a few spots when getting it out of the Pilot and then back in, but not too badly (you have to take your time and be careful, but it seems impossible to avoid some cracks, especially if you don't take the roof post upper cladding all the way off.). Getting the old foam off the fiberglass was a bit of a chore. I used a metal putty knife and a stiff brush, and then used a 50-50 water and vinegar solution (with a brush, rag and elbow grease) to get most of the adhesive off. There's a video showing use of lacquer thinner, which takes it all off easily, but I thought it might get into the fiberglass mat and perhaps interfere with adhesion of the new liner fabric. I used one 16.7 ounce can of 3M Super 77 spray from Home Depot, and it was just barely enough. My wife helped me block the over-spray with cardboard and spread the new fabric, and it was difficult as the fabric did not want to be re-positioned once it was pressed down the first time. We covered the back third first since it has less contours, then the middle, and then finally the front. I searched videos and DIY discussion threads online, and most stress spraying both the fiberglass and fabric, and then make sure to let the adhesive tack up before pressing the fabric on. I recommend watching several. I started with 10 minute tack cure time, but shortened it to around 5 minutes as it seemed to set up fast. I may have used too much adhesive tack curing time overall as it was not very forgiving. The fiberglass shell of the Pilot has some deep contours (unlike the referenced video for this part of it), so it was not as easy, and we had some wrinkles, but I'm pleased with it overall. Give yourself more fabric than you think when make your cut for the sun roof opening as the fabric is under tension (which is what Andy is talking about with the relief cut in his reply to one of the comments here). I used bags of steel balls, BB's and marbles (with padding underneath to prevent dimpling) and weights on top to force the fabric into the deep contours. I also used several clamps with assist pads and dowel rods in various spots - had to get creative and was able to minimize the air pockets pretty well. The biggest snag was that the two bolts holding the third row seat seat-belt shoulder strap rings / guides to the roof posts were compromised - of course the last two things I needed to get everything back in place (so close!). It appears that the bolt retaining washer that holds the washer system in place got jammed into the bolt holes when the Pilot was built. One retaining washer was missing completely and the other had about 3/8 inch missing. I was pulling metal fragments out of the bolt holes that looked like had to be the retaining washer. I tried to get help from the Honda dealer due to the lifetime warranty on seat belts, but they couldn't help me since it was I (not them) who removed the bolts. And they don't sell the bolts individually; just the complete seat-belt tensioner system for about $140 each. I was chasing my tail thinking it was metric, but finally figured out it was SAE 7/16 inch with 20 threads per inch (20 DPI). I watched several videos on dealing with damaged threads. O'Reilly's has a tap and die kit you can borrow on deposit, so it was zero cost to me when I returned the kit. The kit has the thread files, which were not much help, but the tap and die is what I needed. I include this detail about the seat-belt bolts because there are probably other Pilots out there with this problem. Anyway - I spent just under $30 on the fabric (on sale) and less that $10 on the adhesive. If not for the bolt problem, I probably spent a couple full days on it, which I was able to stretch over a week or so.
Saved me so much time in taking of the ceiling liner. Thank you so much!
Great video and on how to remove and replace i just oder my new headliner your video came to my rescue thanks my 🤙🏽
Great video. Thanks!!
GOD FUCKING BLESS YOU. GIVE THIS MAN AN OSCAR! This saved me so much time and money. I would have broken a light of interior panel had it not been for this. Thanks!
Thankyou.
7:00 I wanted to see how exactly you pulled the C pillar out because I've tried and feels like it's about to snap and crack
How do you pull the rear entertainment system out?
where did you get new headliner cloth.?
Could have been an even better tutorial if you have included a link to where you purchased the headliner and how much you paid for it.
Where did you buy your material ? Idk if you’ll reply lol
2007 has curtain airbags
Top part of piller trims are designed to stay, will not come out.
Great explanation...thanks! How many yards of fabric did you end up buying? And you used 1 can of adhesive?
The headliner I ordered on-line came pre-cut to the length and width appropriate for my vehicle. All you need to do is trim off the excess. Make sure you verify your color with the dealer. There are several different shades to choose from. The job took almost 2 cans of spray adhesive. Lowe's or Home Depot should have it in stock.
Thank you!
I’m about to do this but my pilot is a 06 and it has airbags in the corner sides of the headliner, I don’t want to set it off though.
If you disconnect battery cable, you wont set off air bag. You do need to be careful not to break the wire connection from air bag to the car. I believe that model has rear pillar airbags also. As long as the airbag has not been deployed, it should not require a computer reset. If any doubt, just pay the few hundred bucks and have a shop replace headliner. Good Luck.
How did you do the sunroof?
To do the sunroof, you have to carefully cut an "X" across sunroof opening. Don't go too close to the edges, because you have to stretch the headliner around the edges. If you cut too close, you will see the headliner shell. Just take your time and cut a little at a time. You can always cut more as needed. Good luck.
The DVD player was an aftermarket install.
What is the width of the material? Largest I can find is 54 inch wide and it's barely too small seems like
I didn't measure my job. I went on-line and ordered a headliner replacement kit for a 2005 Honda Pilot. It came with the right amount of headliner fabric and a can of 3M spray adhesive. I needed half of a 2nd can that I purchased at Lowes. My advice is to order from a headliner vendor and double check your color code/name with the dealer. Good luck.