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I just want to say that this video was really helpful for me. I've been really struggling to decide what my "standard" film simulation will be, and while I am still thinking about it, this perspective is REALLY insightful and helpful, thank you!!!
It's very kind that you took time to write that. I really appreciate it. :) Just be warned that it might all change if you ever start looking at custom film sims. :)
@@BoorayPerry Oh I've already spent so long building and using custom Film Recipes, to the point where I am going back to a pretty standard set of settings that have my favorite tweaks (+4 color, AWB, etc.) and trying to choose my favorite sim to go with it for my personal style. I love being able to do both with the fujis :)
I never had much appeal for Classic Chrome despite loving pictures produced in the 60s and 70s, despite so many recipes built upon it. I've instead tried to replicate that look I have in mind with the other film simulations, but it never really worked. I had seen your video some time ago but it's only today that I had enough practice with the Fujifilm simulations to really appreciate it. I was about to test with Classic Negative but I'll give Classic Chrome a chance as well.
I tried the Kodachrome 64 recipe from Fuji X Weekly some time ago but it was the X-Trans IV for X-T3 cameras, I should try the X-Trans V version now that I can. From what I see, Classic Chrome has red hues similar to Provia Standard with blues shifted toward cyan, and Classic Negative has blues close to Provia but with reds shifted toward orangey tones. Their contrast level seem very close but Classic Negative seem to have richer reds. Looking at colour photo books of Herzog and Winogrand, the red seem closer to what Classic Negative shows; I should try both with the Kodachrome 64 settings. It's really useful to hear from people like you who have experienced the real Kodachrome slides. All I can remember are printed photos in magazines and it's affected by that colour memory Fujifilm talks about. What makes it even harder is that eye adaptation you mentionned here and how things appear normal after a few seconds. The grass photo with Classic Chrome really felt better. The lower saturation let us pay more attention to the structure/shapes, like a black and white image would. I know that but I seem to always go toward more saturated images when going outside.
@@77cats-2 The only experience I have with slides is the ones my parents produced. I think that it's okay to go with what you saw in print because that's what most people saw. Go with your gut. :)
Interesting video. I'm born in 84 and I feel like Classic Chrome is part of my "memory color" because I did read old magazines that my parents or grandparents had, and was just exposed to older mediums than kids are today. But lately I've been yearning to re-create more of the 90's magazine look with CMYK halftones and color profiles that you would see in ads and magazine in the 90s and even early 2000s. I'm hoping to be able to recreate this in my fuji pics.
I like CC as well. I'm probably an outlier but as a photographer I really dislike messing with color and everything in post, it's just too many variables. I just like to rely on the simulations, kind of like back in the day where you were at the mercy of the film stock and how someone else processed it.
Excellent video. I'm a landscape photographer using a Fuji XT-2. Lately I have been enjoying another Fuji user images and he said it was Classic Chrome. I look forward to giving it a go soon.
Memory colour - I love it. I've been in photography since 1974 when I bought my first camera, an SLR Konica T3 and I read anything on photography I could get my hands on, but never a mention of memory colour. I am older than you and like you spent hours and hours pouring through images in Life, Look, National Geographic (no - not for those reasons) etc. From time to time I lived in a town in the Canadian Rockies - Jasper - and due to the fact it was (and is) deep into the Rockies, any technology in communications came late. I can remember the first phones in 1957, there was no tv and radio during the day was limited to the CBC (Canadian version of BBC). My TV time went to looking through all the old magazines fortunately my grandfather collected. I'm sure he looked at them for the same reason I did, it was our TV to the world. And yet my memory colour has not been defined by any of the films available out there but by artwork - particularly the Impressionists both European and Canadian. And with them colour is bright, vivid, and contrasty. So when many lament the colours and films of yore, I don't get it. So I play with contrast, dynamic range and colours in Velvia - that's my colour memories. With the "art" of photography, its about making new memories, not creating old ones. Heck, if we were having a discussion of beers, the old farts would want pilsners and the millenniums - craft beer. The art of photography (to me and for me) is about making craft beers and leave the pilsners to the old guys in the rockers.
Thanks for the insight I found it very interesting seeing the changes - I have just bought my first Fujifilm camera X-S20 and I'm excited to try the various film simulations.
Hay Booray, thanks for sharing your knowledge of this. I find it very interesting. In the 70’s I lived in South Africa and shot with Agfachrome. Classic Chrome is the nearest Fuji have in their simulations but probably not enough magenta removed. But now, thanks to you, I know how to try to tweak it to my memory colour. What a revelation. Thank you so much. Subbed. I shoot with Nikon Z so will have a play in post and also see if I can set the in-camera adjustments similarly. Otherwise I’m going to HAVE to buy a Fuji! Greetings from London.
It's really been interesting to me to see how much time people will spend trying to get their images to look like what they saw as a kid. It's really sweet and nostalgic. 😁📷
It's rare these days that I learn something new about photography. I have seen these color profiles before and thought... what's all the fuss about, there's really not much difference. Why did they go to all the trouble of creating this for such a small effect. With the explanation I have gained some real insight and can appreciate the color grading. This brings me back to a photo shoot I did with headshots for 250 people. Every time I go back and look at that set of photos I'm extremely dissatisfied with the color. They all look pink or red to me. Everyone else says they are fantastic and my wife thinks I'm crazy for "being too critical." Many people bought the photos and hung them on the wall and gave them as gifts to family. I had experienced the effect of staring at them too long and realizing they DO LOOK GOOD! without understanding photo memory. This is such fantastic information.
I went through Classic Chrome colors deeply and I was surprised that Classic Chrome look different on different Fujifilm cameras. Example: same photo same settings, classic chrome colors look brighter and more vibrant on the fujifilm xf10 than x100t. and it is big different, how do u explain that?
I remember when I got my very first fuji X system camera, Velvia and Astia were my go to film simulations non stop. Eight years later and a new Fuji in my bag, I've found myself shooting ProNeg Std, or Provia, and Classic Chrome, then going further and masking everything, and making more subtle adjustments. I still occasionally shoot Astia, or Velvia, but almost inevitably I change the film simulation over in post. Love the content.
The flexibility built into my XT4 allows me to bracket with 3 different film sims. CC is always one of them and is usually the one that I end up liking the most.
Excellent video. I think this is the first video that I've watched that mentions memory color. Very interesting to see the comparisons. I like to use Astia for products because the colors are a little more accurate to me but use Classic Chrome for everything else i.e. pictures of friends/family and street.
When it comes to color, film, simulations, the best simulation depends on your application. Overall, I prefer ASTIA. I remember when Fuji first released ASTIA. At the time, my go to film was Ptovia. Fuji claimed that the AST in ASTIA stood for accurate skin tones. It did give me very nice skin tones in the film had an overall soft quality to it that made it the perfect film for the nude studies that were my primary subject of the time. I still prefer it when I am taking photos that are going to have people in them. Especially, if I am in close to them. Otherwise I use Provia or ProNeg High. I tried to like Classic Chrome because the literature said that it was a copy of Kodachrome. But when I used it, I did not think it look anything like Kodachrome. So, I don’t really use it. When it comes to black and white, I really like Fuji’s Acros simulation.
Being old I grew up on Kodachrome and then when I started working as a photographer we used Ectachrome because it was easier to get it processed. Then came Velvia and just blew our minds with all the colours. But still, I think most fondly of Kodachrome.
Cool vid. I use Classic Chrome for photography 90+% of the time with a couple of different recipes based on the film simulation. Not only is it awesome for photos, but it's also great for video too. I use CC and Eterna 50/50 each when making short films more or a less.
Right now I am on the fence, trying to determine if I keep shooting my XT-3, or go with a Nikon Zf. I mostly shoot film, so I have no long term love relationship with any of the major brands. I bought the Fuji because I liked the film simulations. I had a X Pro1, and then moved to the XT-3. I now find that I am interested in a full frame camera in order to use some different lenses. All that aside, I haven’t settled on any certain film simulation yet with Fuji. How would I go about determining which one is for me?
Well, Fuji makes about a dozen and then there are another 100 that are "fan made." :) The only way to do it is to look at the images and decide what you like. Personally, I discovered that I like a little desaturation and nostalgia so I ended up with Classic Chrome.
This was absolutely fascinating! I’ve flicked between the first trials of the different profiles but never taken the time to look for a short while. Amazing to see how the images “change”. If off to take some classic chrome photos next trip.
@@BoorayPerry had a city walk and really enjoyed myself. Now I’m stuck uploading because they show up as raw and jpeg however look identical on the iPad and if I click i they all say jpeg! Some are showing that they won’t upload and some have a black stripe down each side?! They also show an mover cloud with an i inside and a reference number, I’m currently totally baffled and searching RUclips 😳😂
I really enjoyed your comment about how which ever simulation that you use, it will be "correct" after looking at it for a few minutes. That portrait shot in Provia was jarring after looking at the CC version and adjusting to that rendering. Initially the Provia shot was perfect. I will give Classic Chrome another try. I'm older than you I'd guess, read Life Magazine all through the '60s but the first Fujifilm camera that I got with Classic Chrome was too subdued for my taste. I'll spend some more time on that simulation.
Regarding image processing, I believe another difference is that Photoshop and the like make changes to the final image pixels, whereas the Fuji in-camera film simulations make adjustments a step earlier than that, i.e. by employing the camera's image processor to make the changes.
I really like CC, Eterna and Provia. I made 3 custom modes or 'recipies' with them and I like to use them all the time. But I also really like Pro Neg Std and Pro Neg High. For me, i usually want to capture a more realistic look and the Eterna profile makes a great starting point from which to build a recipe to achive that, since its a softer tonality. Colors are great to start with also, very subdued. Pro Neg Std is also very good at that realistic look, but Eterna has a feeling to it that is ever better. At the end of the day, all film simulations look good if properlly tweeked and/or depending on the lighting of the scene.
Thoroughly inspiring stuff! I am in the process of configuring my newly acquired XT1. Which is proving to be a challenge. And not because of the machine, but because of my own thoughts keep changing on what I want the colors to be. In our minds we already have certain presets, dialed in and we tie those closely to memory. And those memories are uniquely personal in first instance. These may be shared by many but they can each evoke a certain and specific personal emotion. Colors trigger a state of mind that we want to match the scene. And vise versa. The psychology of color, how you describe it is spot on. It shows excellently why setting up for color is very much a process of thought, in first instance. It also shows why, as your memory grows with personal experience, we may well end up preferring different color presets over time. Please consider expanding this video with more of your thoughts on this subject! Why, for example, do some prefer bw? Cheers!!
Very interesting video! Thanks! So for portrait it's better to use pro neg hi, right? I've played with a recipe in classic chrome and pro neg hi too, customizing color and curves.. I really love together!
2:39 Surprised to learn that they used to use a slide film (i.e. Kodachrome) for use in magazine publications. I assumed they would have used a colour negative film.
@@1duesy I think the simulations are very attractive as Fuji is the only existing camera maker that also makes film. It's not the top reason. price, design, the lenses available... all are good reason
This is a follow up comment to my initial one of several days ago. I said that I enjoyed your video and that I would go back and reexamine Classic Chrome after not being satisfied with what I perceived as blandness in situations that Provia and Velvia excelled. In particular, your comments about the rendering of the sky was interesting to me and I went out for three straight days shooting scenes that had large areas of sky against town scapes. After 300-plus photos. I found that you were correct, the removal of magenta was clear and the contrast of sky and clouds was a look that I have come to recognize as the Classic Chrome rendering. I also found that exposure compensation of about minus 1/3rd of a stop punches up the colors a bit without turning them overly saturated. I even got a great semi backlit portrait that had one of the most pleasing skin tones...soft and beautiful. Anyhow, because of your video, I'm now getting more satisfying results from my Fujifilm cameras. Thanks! Albert
Hi Perry. Great explanation my favorite fuji simulation. On my first fuji camera x100 original was Astia my favorite. Now i use X100t mostly with CC. If you look on my youtube videos they are som slideshows from my favorite destinations. Regards from Slovakia. Karol
Back in ‘89’, when I began to move from Kodachrome to Fujichrome, initałly with the long discontinued 100D, later falling in love with Velvia (50). If my images have no human element (Velvia is not kind to flesh tones), Velvia was my go-to film, otherwise, I shot with Provia. Today, I do the same with my lineup of Fuji cameras, though I do experiment with the other simulations, as well as playing with some recipes from FujiX Weekly.
Memory, spot on. I don't know how many times I go through childhood pictures and get that nostalgic happy feeling. Color, the keystone. Great explanation as usual.
Honestly, I think Classic Chrome looks more like Ektachrome E6 than Kodachrome. To me Kodachrome favored reds and warm colors, while Ektachrome leaned much more towards blue and cooler colors.
yup classic chrome is definitely the more cool and contrasty of the two. custom film sim Classic chrome, color +1 and +2 Red, -5 Blue looks pretty darn close to KodaChrome.
Great video, and I suspect I am older. And I have the Kodachrome slides to prove it. I've defaulted to Classic Chrome since I started shooting with Fuji late last year. Worked well until I started shooting a documentary at a local food pantry. Shots with food needed a bit more punch...
While I shoot in RAW for corporate headshots, I have Capture One on my tablet set up to display in Pro Neg Hi because it looks the most natural to my clients when reviewing the images. Before the world went to $#!+ I did online dating profile shoots 3-4 times a month and almost always used Classic Chrome straight out of camera (once in a while I'd switch to Velvia/Vivid if it fit the scene). Most of those clients were in their mid to late 20's and loved the look.
Salutations de France. Je ne parle pas anglais, mais j'ai malgré tout pu suivre votre vidéo grâce au sous-titrages. Ma simulation de film Fujifilm préférée est aussi le Classic Chrome. J'ai souvent des remarques sur ce choix mais seulement par des personnes jeunes... A 60 ans, j'ai forcement des souvenir de Kodachrome... Ce qui peut expliquer bien des choses. Merci pour cette vidéo très intéressante.
Hello, can you give me the settings for the Classic Chrome please ? I erase all the natives settings of my fuji X1OOv and I dont found the perfect original settings for classic chrome ! Thanks a lot have a good day
Provia from what I’ve heard is almost always pronounced without stressing the “i”. It is one of Fuji’s color transparency or “slide” film stocks. It’s absolutely designed to be a slightly less saturated slide alternative to velvia with landscapes in mind. I am assuming that would be what they based that original film simulation after. I’m really looking forward to my transition hopefully soon to the Fuji digital system so that I can try the classic chrome myself. I’m at a weird inbetween point where I am shooting film again and seeing it differently than I did growing up. There’s just so much information out there now for us to see it all differently and I find it mesmerizing to dive into. I love your channel man thanks for sharing such enjoyable content.🤘
Always like your videos. Your explanation is so clear and I really like to learn more about more in depth Fuji features and what those settings actually do behind the scene. Thank you so much.
Am about to pull the trigger on a used xf10, mainly to have fun with the film simulations and as a take everywhere camera. FYI you have a typo in the video’s title
Classic chrome is great for shooting light as with monochrome. It takes away the colour distraction from the image by making it conform and melt into the background for focus on the light.
Great review about color science. It is so true about color perception. I was all in the Sony Alpha en Sigma camera's which are great. Also fullframe sensors. I thought Apc where inferior than FULL-FRAME sensors. I noticed the Fujifilm X H2s. What a camera with the beautiful color sumilations of Kodak. Really stunning color tech. It is also how I remember my old analog photo prints. It seems more realistic than other brands which are beautiful too but dont have the perspective how you really remember how it was with ordinaire prints.
EyE takes advantage of Fujifilm’s uniquely useful Simulation bracketing mode much of the time..... Chrome/Privia/B&W combo for example, and decide when I get home which treatment fits each. When I shoot single shots, tho, I usually stick to Chrome (could use a little less oranging of the reds, but that would likely have a corresponding negative effect elsewhere on the palette).
Great video! Booray, do you use RAW or film simulations (perhaps both) when you shoot weddings and events? I found it very interesting that you shoot portraits with film sims as I have never heard anybody say that before. I mostly just hear, "RAW, RAW, RAW!" I have never really considered using film sims for client work, but I often dream about shooting in JPEG for the simplicity. Usually I don't express crazy thoughts like that. I hope no one I know reads this.
Great video, though I was slightly distracted by the model part way through.. Also I ignored Gary’s attempt at sabotage by cutting wood while you were filming 😂
So interesting to watch. Classic Chrome images seem so much brighter with more detail than Astia or Nostalgic Negative, (although I do enjoy using N/Negative for Landscape photos). Excellent post, thank you!
I started using Classic Chrome its great really love it, , then I discovered Astia & found for a punchier outdoor skin tones it gives a more natural colourful alternative.
great video, thanks a lot. Since then I see the life in CC ! ... out of curiosity what are your setting (Htone, Stone, Sharp..) for CC on the x100 ? thanks from...Berlin !
it's funny. I'm much younger than you and I feel very strongly that Classic Chrome looks the way I want. It's almost like that's the look I've been trying to achieve when editing I'm Lightroom. It really is like you mentioned, the way that I see the picture in my mind, but I don't really know why ahahha maybe it's the movies for me more than magazines, i don't know. anyway awesome video thanks for making it! i just moved to Fuji and i have. classic chrome on always, i can't shoot anything else ahha cheers!
@@BoorayPerry I used extremaly modyfied eterna for filming but after your video I made some tests with recording on pure classic chrome. First I was disapointed with huge contrast but after few minutes and some post production changes I found that I get special mood, really worth checking!
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I just want to say that this video was really helpful for me. I've been really struggling to decide what my "standard" film simulation will be, and while I am still thinking about it, this perspective is REALLY insightful and helpful, thank you!!!
It's very kind that you took time to write that. I really appreciate it. :)
Just be warned that it might all change if you ever start looking at custom film sims. :)
@@BoorayPerry Oh I've already spent so long building and using custom Film Recipes, to the point where I am going back to a pretty standard set of settings that have my favorite tweaks (+4 color, AWB, etc.) and trying to choose my favorite sim to go with it for my personal style. I love being able to do both with the fujis :)
I never had much appeal for Classic Chrome despite loving pictures produced in the 60s and 70s, despite so many recipes built upon it. I've instead tried to replicate that look I have in mind with the other film simulations, but it never really worked.
I had seen your video some time ago but it's only today that I had enough practice with the Fujifilm simulations to really appreciate it. I was about to test with Classic Negative but I'll give Classic Chrome a chance as well.
Classic Neg is very similar. Have you tried a custom Kodachrome 64 recipe? It's pretty great.
I tried the Kodachrome 64 recipe from Fuji X Weekly some time ago but it was the X-Trans IV for X-T3 cameras, I should try the X-Trans V version now that I can.
From what I see, Classic Chrome has red hues similar to Provia Standard with blues shifted toward cyan, and Classic Negative has blues close to Provia but with reds shifted toward orangey tones. Their contrast level seem very close but Classic Negative seem to have richer reds.
Looking at colour photo books of Herzog and Winogrand, the red seem closer to what Classic Negative shows; I should try both with the Kodachrome 64 settings.
It's really useful to hear from people like you who have experienced the real Kodachrome slides. All I can remember are printed photos in magazines and it's affected by that colour memory Fujifilm talks about. What makes it even harder is that eye adaptation you mentionned here and how things appear normal after a few seconds. The grass photo with Classic Chrome really felt better. The lower saturation let us pay more attention to the structure/shapes, like a black and white image would.
I know that but I seem to always go toward more saturated images when going outside.
@@77cats-2 The only experience I have with slides is the ones my parents produced. I think that it's okay to go with what you saw in print because that's what most people saw. Go with your gut. :)
Interesting video. I'm born in 84 and I feel like Classic Chrome is part of my "memory color" because I did read old magazines that my parents or grandparents had, and was just exposed to older mediums than kids are today. But lately I've been yearning to re-create more of the 90's magazine look with CMYK halftones and color profiles that you would see in ads and magazine in the 90s and even early 2000s. I'm hoping to be able to recreate this in my fuji pics.
If you do, come back and share the settings. :)
I like CC as well. I'm probably an outlier but as a photographer I really dislike messing with color and everything in post, it's just too many variables. I just like to rely on the simulations, kind of like back in the day where you were at the mercy of the film stock and how someone else processed it.
I'm in this camp as well. Not a fan of post processing other than a crop here and there.
Fujifilm is the king of the hill regarding colour science! 😊
Excellent video. I'm a landscape photographer using a Fuji XT-2. Lately I have been enjoying another Fuji user images and he said it was Classic Chrome. I look forward to giving it a go soon.
Memory colour - I love it. I've been in photography since 1974 when I bought my first camera, an SLR Konica T3 and I read anything on photography I could get my hands on, but never a mention of memory colour. I am older than you and like you spent hours and hours pouring through images in Life, Look, National Geographic (no - not for those reasons) etc. From time to time I lived in a town in the Canadian Rockies - Jasper - and due to the fact it was (and is) deep into the Rockies, any technology in communications came late. I can remember the first phones in 1957, there was no tv and radio during the day was limited to the CBC (Canadian version of BBC). My TV time went to looking through all the old magazines fortunately my grandfather collected. I'm sure he looked at them for the same reason I did, it was our TV to the world.
And yet my memory colour has not been defined by any of the films available out there but by artwork - particularly the Impressionists both European and Canadian. And with them colour is bright, vivid, and contrasty. So when many lament the colours and films of yore, I don't get it. So I play with contrast, dynamic range and colours in Velvia - that's my colour memories. With the "art" of photography, its about making new memories, not creating old ones. Heck, if we were having a discussion of beers, the old farts would want pilsners and the millenniums - craft beer. The art of photography (to me and for me) is about making craft beers and leave the pilsners to the old guys in the rockers.
This is awesome, thank you for the explanations. Makes so much more sense now, much better than looking at the photos alone.
Thanks for watching! 😁📷
Thanks for the insight I found it very interesting seeing the changes - I have just bought my first Fujifilm camera X-S20 and I'm excited to try the various film simulations.
Great discussion of Classic Chrome. At 70 yrs old, I know exactly the color and look you were showing in your examples. Nice.
Hay Booray, thanks for sharing your knowledge of this. I find it very interesting. In the 70’s I lived in South Africa and shot with Agfachrome. Classic Chrome is the nearest Fuji have in their simulations but probably not enough magenta removed. But now, thanks to you, I know how to try to tweak it to my memory colour. What a revelation. Thank you so much. Subbed. I shoot with Nikon Z so will have a play in post and also see if I can set the in-camera adjustments similarly. Otherwise I’m going to HAVE to buy a Fuji! Greetings from London.
It's really been interesting to me to see how much time people will spend trying to get their images to look like what they saw as a kid. It's really sweet and nostalgic. 😁📷
It's rare these days that I learn something new about photography. I have seen these color profiles before and thought... what's all the fuss about, there's really not much difference. Why did they go to all the trouble of creating this for such a small effect. With the explanation I have gained some real insight and can appreciate the color grading. This brings me back to a photo shoot I did with headshots for 250 people. Every time I go back and look at that set of photos I'm extremely dissatisfied with the color. They all look pink or red to me. Everyone else says they are fantastic and my wife thinks I'm crazy for "being too critical." Many people bought the photos and hung them on the wall and gave them as gifts to family. I had experienced the effect of staring at them too long and realizing they DO LOOK GOOD! without understanding photo memory. This is such fantastic information.
This really makes my day!
I went through Classic Chrome colors deeply and I was surprised that Classic Chrome look different on different Fujifilm cameras.
Example: same photo same settings, classic chrome colors look brighter and more vibrant on the fujifilm xf10 than x100t.
and it is big different, how do u explain that?
@@MumtazBahri they have different profiles according to the generation of x-trans sensor the camera have.
@@nyanyamero I agree 👍
Man your so easy to listen to and very clear, just what you need. I happen to love classic chrome on my xt30!
That's so nice. Thank you!
Loved this video…thank you…..
Thanks for watching!
Great stuff, thanks for sharing
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Great stuff, thanks for sharing, please keep coming
I remember when I got my very first fuji X system camera, Velvia and Astia were my go to film simulations non stop. Eight years later and a new Fuji in my bag, I've found myself shooting ProNeg Std, or Provia, and Classic Chrome, then going further and masking everything, and making more subtle adjustments. I still occasionally shoot Astia, or Velvia, but almost inevitably I change the film simulation over in post. Love the content.
Thanks!
The flexibility built into my XT4 allows me to bracket with 3 different film sims. CC is always one of them and is usually the one that I end up liking the most.
Excellent video. I think this is the first video that I've watched that mentions memory color. Very interesting to see the comparisons. I like to use Astia for products because the colors are a little more accurate to me but use Classic Chrome for everything else i.e. pictures of friends/family and street.
This was excellent…. It brought back a lot of memories…
When it comes to color, film, simulations, the best simulation depends on your application. Overall, I prefer ASTIA. I remember when Fuji first released ASTIA. At the time, my go to film was Ptovia. Fuji claimed that the AST in ASTIA stood for accurate skin tones. It did give me very nice skin tones in the film had an overall soft quality to it that made it the perfect film for the nude studies that were my primary subject of the time. I still prefer it when I am taking photos that are going to have people in them. Especially, if I am in close to them. Otherwise I use Provia or ProNeg High. I tried to like Classic Chrome because the literature said that it was a copy of Kodachrome. But when I used it, I did not think it look anything like Kodachrome. So, I don’t really use it. When it comes to black and white, I really like Fuji’s Acros simulation.
Being old I grew up on Kodachrome and then when I started working as a photographer we used Ectachrome because it was easier to get it processed. Then came Velvia and just blew our minds with all the colours. But still, I think most fondly of Kodachrome.
Great explanation!
Cool vid. I use Classic Chrome for photography 90+% of the time with a couple of different recipes based on the film simulation. Not only is it awesome for photos, but it's also great for video too. I use CC and Eterna 50/50 each when making short films more or a less.
Superb!! thank you !! x100F can take a picture in 3 chosen simulations... I'll do those tests... Kodachrome were my favorites as well as slides!!👍📷
Right now I am on the fence, trying to determine if I keep shooting my XT-3, or go with a Nikon Zf. I mostly shoot film, so I have no long term love relationship with any of the major brands. I bought the Fuji because I liked the film simulations. I had a X Pro1, and then moved to the XT-3. I now find that I am interested in a full frame camera in order to use some different lenses. All that aside, I haven’t settled on any certain film simulation yet with Fuji. How would I go about determining which one is for me?
Well, Fuji makes about a dozen and then there are another 100 that are "fan made." :)
The only way to do it is to look at the images and decide what you like. Personally, I discovered that I like a little desaturation and nostalgia so I ended up with Classic Chrome.
Ím 75 and have been inspired by and used Ektachrome processed E6 extensively for my magazine and advertising photography.
Very well explained on colour science.
Acros is without a doubt my favourite, but when it's colour Classic Chrome is the one I use the most.
Hi! do you also tweak some stuff in the image/camera or just Classic Chrome and then edit after in photoshop/lightroom?
The model is a real heartthrob! Super video Booray, loved the comparisons.
LOL :)
This was absolutely fascinating! I’ve flicked between the first trials of the different profiles but never taken the time to look for a short while. Amazing to see how the images “change”. If off to take some classic chrome photos next trip.
Lol... Have fun!
@@BoorayPerry had a city walk and really enjoyed myself. Now I’m stuck uploading because they show up as raw and jpeg however look identical on the iPad and if I click i they all say jpeg! Some are showing that they won’t upload and some have a black stripe down each side?! They also show an mover cloud with an i inside and a reference number, I’m currently totally baffled and searching RUclips 😳😂
@@traceybartlam7737 I got nothing. I don't use an Ipad. :)
@@BoorayPerry I’m not sure,the internet has anything either 😂 given up the search for now!
Thanks for a really thoughtful walkthrough of the simulations for portraits.
Thank you for a thoughtful comment. :)
I agree that Classic Chrome does appear to render colors naturally. So, I will try using that in my landscape and street photography. Thanks.
Great video the way you explained classic chrome!!!!!
Thanks!
Thanks for this!!
Thanks for watching! 📷🙂
Booray, helpful the way you compare the headshot photos.
Thanks!
When I shot color film, it was always Kodachrome 25. I really liked the colors and how they made aircraft look on a screen. Vivid is showroom tv.
Fair play, that was fascinating.
Thanks! 😁📷
GREAT VIDEO !
Thank you!
I enjoyed your explanation ..thank you Phil UK
Thank you😃
Great video, well explained 👍🏼
Thanks! :)
First visit to your channel and liked it very much, subscribed and looking forward to watching more of your posts.
Thanks😁
Thanks so much, I found this very interesting!
Excellent presentation!
Extraordinary video! Loved it!
Excellent video. Could you please share some of your classic chrome photos in a future video please? Would love to see them!
Thanks! You might like this. I'm pretty sure it was all classic chrome ruclips.net/video/rSCyzJnUEYU/видео.html
Thank you very much! I always loved the classic chrome and felt nostalgic, but I couldn't point the finger at it. Now here is the explanation.
Enjoyed your video. Thanks!
I really enjoyed your comment about how which ever simulation that you use, it will be "correct" after looking at it for a few minutes. That portrait shot in Provia was jarring after looking at the CC version and adjusting to that rendering. Initially the Provia shot was perfect.
I will give Classic Chrome another try. I'm older than you I'd guess, read Life Magazine all through the '60s but the first Fujifilm camera that I got with Classic Chrome was too subdued for my taste. I'll spend some more time on that simulation.
It's kind of frustrating because you begin to question what you think is "right"
Regarding image processing, I believe another difference is that Photoshop and the like make changes to the final image pixels, whereas the Fuji in-camera film simulations make adjustments a step earlier than that, i.e. by employing the camera's image processor to make the changes.
Thanks 🙏
I really like CC, Eterna and Provia. I made 3 custom modes or 'recipies' with them and I like to use them all the time. But I also really like Pro Neg Std and Pro Neg High. For me, i usually want to capture a more realistic look and the Eterna profile makes a great starting point from which to build a recipe to achive that, since its a softer tonality. Colors are great to start with also, very subdued. Pro Neg Std is also very good at that realistic look, but Eterna has a feeling to it that is ever better. At the end of the day, all film simulations look good if properlly tweeked and/or depending on the lighting of the scene.
👍🏼😃 Thank you for sharing! You are right about the memory... Can you remember the day sunlight was yellow instead of white? 😘📸
Thoroughly inspiring stuff! I am in the process of configuring my newly acquired XT1. Which is proving to be a challenge. And not because of the machine, but because of my own thoughts keep changing on what I want the colors to be. In our minds we already have certain presets, dialed in and we tie those closely to memory. And those memories are uniquely personal in first instance. These may be shared by many but they can each evoke a certain and specific personal emotion. Colors trigger a state of mind that we want to match the scene. And vise versa. The psychology of color, how you describe it is spot on. It shows excellently why setting up for color is very much a process of thought, in first instance. It also shows why, as your memory grows with personal experience, we may well end up preferring different color presets over time.
Please consider expanding this video with more of your thoughts on this subject! Why, for example, do some prefer bw? Cheers!!
Trust me you do not want me to get started on black and white. If it was up to me I would only shoot black and white 😁📷
Very interesting video! Thanks! So for portrait it's better to use pro neg hi, right? I've played with a recipe in classic chrome and pro neg hi too, customizing color and curves.. I really love together!
I do all my working Classic Chrome but it's always up to the individual to decide what they like the best. 🙂📷
@@BoorayPerry exactly! Many thanks!
Absolutely brilliant video. Thanks for making this!
Love Classic Chrome!
Great information, thank you!
Thoroughly enjoyed this particular video, always wondered why my preference was classic chrome 👌.
2:39 Surprised to learn that they used to use a slide film (i.e. Kodachrome) for use in magazine publications. I assumed they would have used a colour negative film.
Oh, I just threw that image up there. I have no idea what they used. :)
Is it possible to apply Fuji simulations to images from other cameras, ie Sony?
I don't believe they show up in the dialog box so no..
@@BoorayPerrywould you recommend a Fuji camera based on the merits of their simulations?
@@1duesy I think the simulations are very attractive as Fuji is the only existing camera maker that also makes film. It's not the top reason. price, design, the lenses available... all are good reason
This is a follow up comment to my initial one of several days ago. I said that I enjoyed your video and that I would go back and reexamine Classic Chrome after not being satisfied with what I perceived as blandness in situations that Provia and Velvia excelled.
In particular, your comments about the rendering of the sky was interesting to me and I went out for three straight days shooting scenes that had large areas of sky against town scapes. After 300-plus photos. I found that you were correct, the removal of magenta was clear and the contrast of sky and clouds was a look that I have come to recognize as the Classic Chrome rendering. I also found that exposure compensation of about minus 1/3rd of a stop punches up the colors a bit without turning them overly saturated. I even got a great semi backlit portrait that had one of the most pleasing skin tones...soft and beautiful.
Anyhow, because of your video, I'm now getting more satisfying results from my Fujifilm cameras. Thanks!
Albert
That's great to hear and I really appreciate you taking the time to comment! 📷😁
Hi Perry.
Great explanation my favorite fuji simulation. On my first fuji camera x100 original was Astia my favorite. Now i use X100t mostly with CC.
If you look on my youtube videos they are som slideshows from my favorite destinations.
Regards from Slovakia.
Karol
Hey! Nice video! What is that Program u use to edit your raw pictures?
Capture One. I have a video on my channel about it. It renders Fuji RAW files better than Adobe RAW
Fascinating thank you
Back in ‘89’, when I began to move from Kodachrome to Fujichrome, initałly with the long discontinued 100D, later falling in love with Velvia (50). If my images have no human element (Velvia is not kind to flesh tones), Velvia was my go-to film, otherwise, I shot with Provia. Today, I do the same with my lineup of Fuji cameras, though I do experiment with the other simulations, as well as playing with some recipes from FujiX Weekly.
Memory, spot on. I don't know how many times I go through childhood pictures and get that nostalgic happy feeling. Color, the keystone. Great explanation as usual.
As a 90's kid I think I connect with Classic Neg. because thats the spectrum of color from my childhood.
Honestly, I think Classic Chrome looks more like Ektachrome E6 than Kodachrome. To me Kodachrome favored reds and warm colors, while Ektachrome leaned much more towards blue and cooler colors.
Yep, I agree. Nothing at all like Kodachrome.
yup classic chrome is definitely the more cool and contrasty of the two. custom film sim Classic chrome, color +1 and +2 Red, -5 Blue looks pretty darn close to KodaChrome.
I’ve said this for years, but thought I was alone in my observation. It’s nice to hear someone else sees it that way too!
Great video, and I suspect I am older. And I have the Kodachrome slides to prove it. I've defaulted to Classic Chrome since I started shooting with Fuji late last year. Worked well until I started shooting a documentary at a local food pantry. Shots with food needed a bit more punch...
While I shoot in RAW for corporate headshots, I have Capture One on my tablet set up to display in Pro Neg Hi because it looks the most natural to my clients when reviewing the images. Before the world went to $#!+ I did online dating profile shoots 3-4 times a month and almost always used Classic Chrome straight out of camera (once in a while I'd switch to Velvia/Vivid if it fit the scene). Most of those clients were in their mid to late 20's and loved the look.
I'll bet that's the influence of movie posters. :)
Very interesting! Could you do a similar explanation on Classic Negative? I think I like that more.. 🤔
I'll put it on my list 👍
Thanks for the video. Your neck strap on the x100v. What brand is it?
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@@BoorayPerry Thank you. i want something better on my xpro 3. The oem strap is not that comfy. Thanks again.
I wonder how Booray thinks about CC vs C.Neg
I have started using c neg high for headshots on occasion.
Always informative videos thanks. On the head (s) shots where do you ask your model to look/focus, the lens, slightly above the lens where.
Right at the lens.
Wow! Just found your channel and it's amazing!
Well thank you very much!
Salutations de France. Je ne parle pas anglais, mais j'ai malgré tout pu suivre votre vidéo grâce au sous-titrages. Ma simulation de film Fujifilm préférée est aussi le Classic Chrome. J'ai souvent des remarques sur ce choix mais seulement par des personnes jeunes... A 60 ans, j'ai forcement des souvenir de Kodachrome... Ce qui peut expliquer bien des choses. Merci pour cette vidéo très intéressante.
Hello, can you give me the settings for the Classic Chrome please ? I erase all the natives settings of my fuji X1OOv and I dont found the perfect original settings for classic chrome !
Thanks a lot
have a good day
Provia from what I’ve heard is almost always pronounced without stressing the “i”. It is one of Fuji’s color transparency or “slide” film stocks. It’s absolutely designed to be a slightly less saturated slide alternative to velvia with landscapes in mind. I am assuming that would be what they based that original film simulation after. I’m really looking forward to my transition hopefully soon to the Fuji digital system so that I can try the classic chrome myself. I’m at a weird inbetween point where I am shooting film again and seeing it differently than I did growing up. There’s just so much information out there now for us to see it all differently and I find it mesmerizing to dive into. I love your channel man thanks for sharing such enjoyable content.🤘
The amount of data is overwhelming! :) Thanks for watching. :)
Well said. You have a new subscriber sir.
Always like your videos. Your explanation is so clear and I really like to learn more about more in depth Fuji features and what those settings actually do behind the scene. Thank you so much.
May I know what software you using ? I saw there's an option for layer & adjustment. Thanks
Capture One. It's the best for rendering Fuji files. :)
@@BoorayPerry Thanks a lot !.. i download the trial version...u're right, fuji raw files look great here :) loves the layering features 😍
@@hudhudtv4155 It's got some great features including a very robust color management tool and great exporting tools.
@@BoorayPerry great ! thanks again for info. love the interface. Now it's a new toy for me as hobbyist photographer.
Am about to pull the trigger on a used xf10, mainly to have fun with the film simulations and as a take everywhere camera. FYI you have a typo in the video’s title
TWO typos!! :)
I love classic chrome, its also my default go to simulation. 2nd is monochrome.
Classic chrome is great for shooting light as with monochrome. It takes away the colour distraction from the image by making it conform and melt into the background for focus on the light.
Great review about color science. It is so true about color perception. I was all in the Sony Alpha en Sigma camera's which are great. Also fullframe sensors. I thought Apc where inferior than FULL-FRAME sensors. I noticed the Fujifilm X H2s. What a camera with the beautiful color sumilations of Kodak. Really stunning color tech. It is also how I remember my old analog photo prints. It seems more realistic than other brands which are beautiful too but dont have the perspective how you really remember how it was with ordinaire prints.
Astia + strong chrome effect is the one for me.
Love the way you explain colour. When you shoot B&W, do you prefer Monochrome or Acros?
Acros. :)
Thanks!!
EyE takes advantage of Fujifilm’s uniquely useful Simulation bracketing mode much of the time..... Chrome/Privia/B&W combo for example, and decide when I get home which treatment fits each. When I shoot single shots, tho, I usually stick to Chrome (could use a little less oranging of the reds, but that would likely have a corresponding negative effect elsewhere on the palette).
P.S. -Color Memory, Yes..... I’m 72, been shooting for 50 odd years or so)
Great video! Booray, do you use RAW or film simulations (perhaps both) when you shoot weddings and events? I found it very interesting that you shoot portraits with film sims as I have never heard anybody say that before. I mostly just hear, "RAW, RAW, RAW!" I have never really considered using film sims for client work, but I often dream about shooting in JPEG for the simplicity. Usually I don't express crazy thoughts like that. I hope no one I know reads this.
I shoot everything in raw and classic Chrome. Personally, I think that Fuji's default film setting is a little too saturated for my taste
Great video, though I was slightly distracted by the model part way through.. Also I ignored Gary’s attempt at sabotage by cutting wood while you were filming 😂
I wondered if anyone would notice that. :)
So interesting to watch. Classic Chrome images seem so much brighter with more detail than Astia or Nostalgic Negative, (although I do enjoy using N/Negative for Landscape photos). Excellent post, thank you!
I started using Classic Chrome its great really love it,
, then I discovered Astia & found for a punchier outdoor skin tones it gives a more natural colourful alternative.
My default is Classic Chrome too!
same on mine !!
great video, thanks a lot. Since then I see the life in CC ! ... out of curiosity what are your setting (Htone, Stone, Sharp..) for CC on the x100 ? thanks from...Berlin !
I keep all my settings on default. I find that my attempts to do a better job than the Fuji engineers fall short. :)
@@BoorayPerry interesting. thanks
Love this video. Thank you! Do you like Classic Chrome for brown and dark skin tones? Standard turns the skin red and looks awful.
it's funny. I'm much younger than you and I feel very strongly that Classic Chrome looks the way I want. It's almost like that's the look I've been trying to achieve when editing I'm Lightroom. It really is like you mentioned, the way that I see the picture in my mind, but I don't really know why ahahha maybe it's the movies for me more than magazines, i don't know. anyway awesome video thanks for making it!
i just moved to Fuji and i have. classic chrome on always, i can't shoot anything else ahha cheers!
I can relate. It is my default color for all my professional work.
You had stock classic chrome settings for video or you made some changes like L and H or color correctinos?
I'm pretty sure it was just stock classic Chrome
@@BoorayPerry I used extremaly modyfied eterna for filming but after your video I made some tests with recording on pure classic chrome. First I was disapointed with huge contrast but after few minutes and some post production changes I found that I get special mood, really worth checking!
24 & 36... I missed you
classic chrome is also my favorite