BMW vs Audi Reliability - And the Winner IS...
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- Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024
- BMW vs Audi Reliability - And the Winner IS...
Should you buy BMW or Audi? Is BMW reliable? Is Audi reliable? Who wins when we compare BMW reliability vs Audi reliability and who is the best German luxury car maker? Well, we're going to walk through the lineups of these two cars and I'll declare a winner in many different segments. Everything from your first BMW and the first issues or problems you might experience, to the top of the BMW luxury line.
I'll do the same thing with Audi's whole lineup, and we'll talk about Audi electrical issues and some other problems you might experience.
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I have a 2006 A6 Avant that I bought in 2008 as a CPO car. It now has just shy of 300,000km on it and is still running strong. No big issues, just keeping up with maintenance. The 3.2 is a great motor and replacing the timing belt tensioners is part of the deal with them. Only had to do that once. Uses one liter of oil between 10,000km oil change intervals and that's about it.
I've got a 2006 s6 and I have to rebuild it every year :D
i have the same but 2.4l v6 with 196k miles and no problem at all
How much maintenance you have spent so far each year in average?
@@StudioGoldsmith😂😂😂u can’t be serious 😂😂
I got a 08 and i love it 180k still kicking
I owned both, Audi is more reliable. I think the reason is they use proven parts from VW so they rarely break and when they do every mechanic knows how to fix them
Yeah to be honest you open any 4 cylinder by Audi or vw most likely they look a like
@@Wetheppls47the lower end Audis litterally use vw engines
I own both. I work with Germans. My experience & my German cohorts say Audi has significantly better reliability. Again, I own both & have owned both on & off or like now, own both simultaneously.... I have no bias one to another. My dd is a BMW, I do love the way it drives but it's 10-to-1 bmw issue for every issue that arises with my current Audi or the previous one we had. Just one guys' experience along with relaying what his German friends have for their opinions too.
I agree i think although not perfect audi is better than BMW. This being said, i’m a lexus owner and i love its reliability. Not the optimal driving machine but at least i dont cry after leaving the garage
@@stea2494 I don't agree I have always had issues with Audi - Gear box & Electronic dash board on my Q7 however I'm going back to 1997 with my Audi A6 Auto gear box because they were using French Renault Auto Gear boxes crap and 2007 for my Q7. I have had BMW's 5 series since 1989 never had a problem with them of any sort. I have had the X series which I still do no problems whatsoever however they are diesel not petrol.
@@andrewodysseos5388 you must be in europe with german made version
I heard that Audis and VWs are seen very differently and not in a good way in North America compared to Europe.
Where I’ve lived so far (Eastern Europe & UK) I’ve never heard anybody complain about any VW or any (inline 4) Audi (I’ve heard some stuff about the big V6s).
When browsing the American part of the internet it seems like they are the worst cars ever and do not make any financial sense, they are trash, money pits and always leave you on the side of the road, with services that rip you off.
Maybe they differ in build quality, or maybe the difference is the fact that in Europe we use mostly diesels (because petrol is about 3 times more expensive than in the US and diesels have way better fuel economy), which might mean that the diesel engines are actually better made perhaps?
@@chrisddr3 i think most vw group cars in north america are made in mexico. I think that has something to do with the quality. Also not sure if this is true, but ive heard that americans dont maintain their cars as religiously as europeans.
This is like porn stars vs. rock stars in terms of infidelity.
Lmao
😂😂😂
LMFAOO
LMAO. I think BMW would be the pornstar in this scenario as they constantly get their gaskets blown out 😂
@@benjaminfranz450 LMAO!!!
Mark, you talked alot about BMW engines and their model codes but not at all about Audi. Why? How are you going to make a video detailing reliability about 2 luxury car brands but only really express technical knowledge about one of those brands and not the other? Seemed a little one sided. You didnt talk about the engines in the A4, A3, S4 or A6 you mentioned. Are they 4 cyl turbo? 6cyl supercharged?, 8cyl turbo? which of those are reliable and which arent? Which model years for which engine? We need another video like this one, but detailing technical knowledge of Audi engines and their reliability
I used to own a bmw 3 series. I was going up a steep hill when I heard a loud bang and the head gasket blew. I serviced this car on time and looked after it. I now own a 2020 Toyota Corolla and I have never been happier!! Will never look at German cars again.
what kind of 3 series was it?
How old was the 3 series? Eventually time kills all cars.
@@S5King7 my bmw was a 2009 model and with only 88,000km
@@jasmineaoun2816 that's too bad. Low mileage car for such a big issue. Tough to have an experience like that and not be discouraged with the brand.
If you want reliability, always get a Toyota (Lexus) product. If you want something fun to drive, buy a BMW and maintain it. With the Toyota, you can brag about what a smart purchase you made and how many years it lasted. With the BMW, you get out of the car every day with a smile on your face. Depends on what you want.
If I'm paying more for a car I expect reliability. All of the leather and chrome in the world doesn't mean anything if I can't actually drive the car. Boring cars? Nothing is more boring than driving a loaner because your car is in the shop.
I agree,that's why I don't buy German cars anymore,they are super expensive in maintenance, not very reliable either. I got fed up with the rude service Advisors at Audi, Bmw,and Mercedes. I have had to Lexus and like them better and super reliable. Great Experience at their dealerships.
Sounds like you need a Lexus in your life.
Rol!!!!! Good one bro.
Reality is MB/BMW/Audi know they have status seeking suckers for clients and treat them accordingly, knowing that no matter how bad they treat them the brand cache will keep them coming back. People who have money and don't care about status make sensible choices and buy Lexus.
@marks90004 Haha, yes well you know what they say about a fool and his money.....
I have both. Barely any issues with the Audis over 5yrs but BMW is a cash cow.
Who puts a timing chain at the back of the engine?
BMW- Yes
Who puts clutch cylinder inside bell housing? Ford- Yes.
Audi 3.0 v6 tdi the chain is in the back too :)
Loads of Audis are engine out for timing chains.
Audi reliability in the 90s- eatly 2000s seems to be lacking.. lately they improved a lot over the past 15 years and bmw seems to drop..
Cheers
But The newer bmws is some of The most reliable in The world, Audi is laying quite a bit behind and merc far behind of Audi and Toyota is ahead o bmw and Lexus as well and one more japanese company
Complexity has increased exponentially, and whatever "improvements" - real or imaginary - took place are compensated.
BMW vs Audi Reliability - And the Winner IS... TOYOTA!
That’s why y’all have no business here you need to go and watch Scotty’s!!! And by the way Toyota? Honda’s gas pedals don’t get stuck!! Just saying!!
@@amitchell4206 Still Winner is Lexus :D
@@alayraza9554 Is the same thing with a different badge only y’all believe they are luxury cars when under the body is a Toyota!!! Who gets impressed when you say I drive a Lexus? Nobody!! At least I don’t my standards are higher than a overpriced toyota!!
@@amitchell4206 We - reasonable and practical people - don't try to impress anybody. We just need dependable and comfortable vehicles. Unlike your kind.
@@amitchell4206 Something tells me you spent truckload of money on a fancy grille, and just now figured out what a giant waste it was so you are trying to justify your irrationality by being pissed at reality.
Feel sorry for you.
Even if I were given an Audi or BMW, I couldn't afford to keep it. I'd most likely end up selling it and buying a Toyota lol.
If you’re like me and you enjoy seeing how long you can drive a truck, don’t ever buy one of these. I pay off a truck and see how many years I can go without a payment.
Yeah just buy the toyata and never think about getting a German car you have to know how to turn a wrench 🔧once it comes to owning one
@@lesterparker1594 the amount you pay on gas especially if your truck is lifted. Your paying more than owning a foreign car
@@Leandre22_02 you couldn’t pay me to drive a Toyota lmao that’s the softest car in the world. I’m cool with spending $200 every 3 months for service
@@yeezyyee7200 it just depends. My truck get 23mpg. I don’t think you’ll be paying more if you drive a truck for a decade or longer. These foreign cars are not going to last that long. You’ll have to buy another car while I’m still driving the same truck.
All of my Audis have been more reliable than my G20 330i. I feel my BMW has designed components to be 'at the limit' - so (especially) lead footed drivers risk early component failure. Also with Audis they respond well to tunes. + I Love the way they float on the road.. Handlings a bit soft though. My next car will be an Audi.
What problems have you had with your G20?
Bmws don’t respond well to tunes? Lmao much more aftermarket support for a reason vs Audi
I own a 2015 A3 Quattro and this car is awesome! I've had to replace the battery and the tires and that's it. Keep up with my maintenance and the car is wonderful. I already know that I will buy another one.
How is your 2015 Audi A3 Quattro holding up, I was thinking about getting one and was looking for any information?
You did have to replace the tires??
That's sounds like an alarm to me.
@@gabrielmanning18Why? Tires don’t last forever
“… how about the panel gap? Nothing like the Tesla, that’s for sure” 😂😂
@marks90004 every time I see a Tesla in a parking lot I check the panel gaps. I still have not seen one that has good panel gaps. Some are worse than others, but every single one is jacked up.
I bet you can’t find a Toyota with jacked up gaps.
@marks90004 the worst one I saw was on a model x. The hood gap was maybe 2mm at the front of the hood, and probably 10mm at the back. It was super noticeable.
@marks90004 I mean, last I heard they were building them in tents outside
98,100 miles on my 17 Audi S3, serviced haldex and dsg on time or earlier.
Only been through tires an brakes. Getting a carbon cleaning soon.
Only thing I've noticed is some rattles in the cabin on startup
Good luck hitting 160k+ miles. Lol
The only reliable BMW and Audi is if it is on a Lease/Rental and still covered in warranty
From the perspective of a Lexus owner this dilemma sounds a bit silly. Cute, but silly.
Prance away now
Hold that L ... Literally
My first Audi was a 2015 Q7 that I bought just out of warranty in 2019. It had some issues...fairly minor, but expensive ($600 rear seatbelt buckle), rear windshield wiper motor, steering fluid leak. We liked the styling but realized we needed a warranty so traded that in and now have 2018 Q5 and S5. Bought extended warranty for both. Audi repair is so expensive that the warranty is necessary. Fingers crossed we have good luck with these cars.
Didnt learn the first time huh? If you like to burn your money, feel free! You lease these pos cars. You dont buy them. Lol
@@troytruong8246 extended warranty for both. I should be covered if anything goes wrong.
And what do you do after the warranty ? If you are so considerious, maybe Audi isn’t the right choice for you
@@niko5646 well the warranty is 5 years. If we've had trouble with the cars we'll sell them when the warranty expires. 5 years is probably the longest time for us to keep a car anyway. But so far we have had these cars almost 2 years and no problems.
@@S5King7 i mean there’s always something with a car especially a “luxury car” like Audi. Have you ever did a deep inspection of the car, or put a obd tester on it to see
Audi's Rust? ....... that's a new one. Also their V6 engines are way more relaible than bmw's, super charged or not. Audi's 4 cyclinder offerings are where the problems are.
BMWs are not super charged
@@johnrose7212 Was referring to Audi engines.....
@@lee1210mk2 what audis are supercharged ?
@@johnrose7212 a6, s4 etc
Like my mechanic told me yesterday after he serviced my Lexus IS and I quote "Your car is not good for business, not like the fucking German crap that breaks all the time'". His garage is taking in all makes as he has a good name in our locality.
but plenty of service money can be made as well. just not big ticket stuff.
Yep. We had a lot of customers looking green after big stuff went wrong on their "prestige" German cars, think the worst one was a 9k mile from new Audi with a stretched timing chain. The customer was told to do one by Audi, it was a month out of warranty. Shocking.
@@neilhewitt2761 were the oil changes at 3k miles?? If not and the dealer said take it longer then they all got their money didn't they?
@@jamesmedina2062 full main dealer history, client bought it new. Needless to say she doesn't own one now...
@@neilhewitt2761 The Germans know how to get their money. Too bad. They weren't like that before.
To me a good car is a reliable car. Features are nice. But how do people look down on cars like Toyotas? They are the best selling cars in the world for a reason, they’re amazing cars. They’re what you NEED in a car, these German cars are just what some want in a car. Big big difference.
I own both. My Audi has been a pretty good car, on par with my other VWs which I would rate "ok." My three new BMWs have all been disastrous money sucking crap. Porsche is ranked #32 of 32, the worst cars in the world, but I find it hard to believe their whole fleet required more repairs than my last BMW.
"Porsche Reliability Rating is 2.0 out of 5.0, which ranks it 32nd out of 32 for all car brands. This rating is based on an average across 345 unique models. The average annual repair cost for a Porsche is $1,192, which means it has below average ownership costs. The other factors that contribute to Porsche reliability include an average of 0.8 visits to a repair shop per year and a 21% probability of a repair being severe."
it depends who you ask but Porsche rates as usually much more reliable than the VAG or BMW. As far as VAG vs BMW I think its complicated and a roll of the dice. BMW usually have the reputation to be reliable albeit expensive to maintain. Audi is just more of the unexpected failures.
@@jamesmedina2062
It totally depends on who you ask. Consumer Reports only does easy owner surveys, so its 100% worthless, bias data. Today, we know the truth, the repairpal database has been compiling millions of actual repair records from millions of mechanics, since 2017.
Porsche ranks dead last of all 32 tracked manufactures.
BMW is 30th.
Audi is 28th.
Toyota, BTW, is not that great in 7th, behind all Korean brands.
Honda ranks #1.
@@FFE-js2zp very interesting!! Still though its useful to note the residual values at say 3 and 5 years. It may not be part of the repair costs but it matters. Historically, some Porsche have only appreciated in value and this is going back 40 years although Porsche owners put very little miles on them. Is the thing merely an appliance or is it an investment? Toyota and Lexus win here vs Hyundai. I have a Honda now. 90k miles. No major repairs. A window switch needs replacement and the door "clickers" on one side. But being a Civic I felt compelled to spend over 2500 on little modifications mainly on comfort, meaning seats, custom seat height spacers, noise insulation, leather material and foam. They make these cars for like one age group (19-29) and they are substantially poor in terms of NVH and comfort.
@@jamesmedina2062
Actually the 911 has the highest TCO (higher is bad) of 95% in the first 5 years, meaning that every cost (insurance, gas, repairs depreciation, etc) added together is the highest percentage of MSRP.
Something tells me you do these vlogs when the dealership is closed on Sunday.
You never open the car doors .. always filming the interior through the glass.
Whatever he's doing regardless of the day to get content, it works for us.
@@DigitalDissident get a sense of humour… the aggressive mindset can be very bad for your overall outcome.
I bet you called you buddy to tell him to thumbs up 👍🏽… this is not tic tock unlike you,I’m not looking for likes 👍🏽
In the space of 3 days I saw 2 BMW 6 series being towed of the highway. One was a M convertible and the other was a regular 6 series hardtop. I have the 2018 fully loaded X1 and it's the best car I have even purchased. It has 30K Kms now and has not been back to the dealer once for a warranty issue. The engine is also in almost the entire BMW line up including the 4 cylinder Toyota Supra. BMW has gotten much better while everyone I know with an Audi is in the shop at least once or twice a year for a warranty issue.
Soooo...basically stay on top of maintenance and watch the oil consumption. 2 Audis...combined 300Km under the hoods.
I don't want to "watch oil consumption". I want to drive. That's why I have four Toyotas.
@@nofyfb123 That's also true...Especially my Audis..they burn oil like crazy
I have a 2006 BMW x3 6 speed manual I bought in 2007. It was a dealer car used by a sales person and listed to sell as a CPO with 5700k. The M54 hasn’t given me any trouble. I moved from NY with 46k in 2020 and drove it to California in record high heat. Coincidentally when I met my realtor in CA for the first time she had a 2008 6 speed manual so we got along famously. She was jealous because I only had 49k when we met and she was in 150k+. We both still have our X3s. What sucks is that we can’t replace our 6 speed manuals with anything new. However, the best thing out of our relationship (other than finding us a house) was that she knew the best BMW mechanic, body shops and dealerships in the area. My baby is happy, as am I, in its new home. That’s all you can ask for as a car owner.
The owners are reliable. Cars never gets finished, the owner does.
To a point
They use to put a radio in cars but now they put a set of wheels on computers.
So, I turned on closed captioning for this video and about fell off my couch. Is anyone else seeing these absolutely crazy captions?
Just turned them on - what the hell?! Weird.
...and the winner is LEXUS!!! :D
😂😂 Absolutely. I just got an '17 IS300 and I don't get what all the complaints are about the lexus "lack of performance". I'm 32 and have to drive my kid around to soccer practice and school. Are there grown ass men still out here tying to street race? It's got more power than my previous Mercedes C class so if anything I traded up. I'll take reliability over a 15% boost in performance.
@@sexytopramen I've had a Lexus IS300 in the past. Reliability has been great. Ride is quiet, I have an Audi S3 now and it's just more engaging and handles better. They both serve their purpose.
I'm 29 now with no kids though so maybe in a couple of years I'll be back to Lexus 😂
@marks90004 I mean reliable for an Audi sure. Reliable in terms of not having to worry about random things breaking. Nah.
I have had all makes. German cars require more love to be "equally" reliable, but not more. It's the nature of the beast
Reality is MB/BMW/Audi know they have status seeking suckers for clients and treat them accordingly, knowing that no matter how bad they treat them the brand cache will keep them coming back. People who have money and don't care about status make sensible choices and buy Lexus.
Bingo. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Mrs Jones on the cul de sac can’t be seen in a Ford. My god what are we savages?
They’re also usually lease vehicles when problems don’t really occur
Or some that buy them are car enthusiasts. One of my dream cars is an f90 m5 competition, and I don’t care about status.
@@MikeyG003 True. But those suckers who take the 2nd mortgage to buy them used are in HUGE trouble.
@@nofyfb123lol yeah, especially when they don’t know how to wrench or properly maintain the vehicle. I’ve got a modded f80 pushing 600hp and never had any issues with it, of course there’s more reliable models of bmw than others, but really comes down to proper care and maintenance imo.
Audi versus BMW reliability, and the winner is, Acura.
Haha
I have an 2016 Acura ILX and I love the car and it doesn’t give any problems just normal maintenance. But I’m looking forward into a 2018 S3 with 30k miles and from BMW I consider the M340i as for a fun performance and reliable car since it haves a B58, but they’re more expensive so…
acura not reliable brand compare to toyota ,lexus and some hondas
check reliability statistics before writing what you dont know
Man I do love me an Acura. Had a 2005 TSX as my first car. Upgraded to a 2015 Jeep grand Cherokee and missed my Acura the whole time….. they finally upgraded their interiors away from that double screen BS too. However I traded in the Jeep for a 2020 Audi A4 S-Line and I gotta say, Audi interiors are just beautiful.
This video is so great!
Thanka
my 2008 328xi was an absolute money pit. Literally to replace the oil pan on that car, they have to hoist the engine out. When I changed spark plugs, I literally had to remove 6 different components to get to them. I feel like most of what you pay for is labor costs when maintaining a BMW. I had a jetta VR6 with more miles that held up much better than that car did. I just bought an Audi so fingers crossed
How is your audi doing ?
@@StayTrueHD It arrives in late June to Early July - it's a new one
@@abelalba3111 I placed an order for an rs3 actually so I’m very excited
Yes everything started breaking after 100k miles.
The BMW is nice to own if you have a maintenance plan!! so anything that goes wrong you covered but after that expires it's risky business!!
Agreed. Same with Audi.
My 2018 Audi Q5 needed valve cover gasket replaced at 29000 miles. Yes it was covered under warranty but this is way too soon.
My 2004 4Runner with 250,000 miles of rough service doesn't need anything...
@@nofyfb123dude, are you a bot? Same snide comment, a bunch of the commenters have “123” in their username…not suspicious at all. Either that or these people can only count to 3 and proudly display that…sigh.
With either of them: "If you can't afford a new one, you can't afford a used one".
Then hardly anyone cam afford them.. thry overpriced
They're all on finance anyway so I'm not sure yhat applies anymore!
@@neilhewitt2761 What do you mean?
Exactly what I said, they don't need to afford a new one now, just to get one on PCP and pay the depreciation only, they never "own" them anymore as in almost all cases they never make the balloon payment at the end because they don't have it, so they never actually own the car, just have to hand it back to use as deposit for another PCP deal. I know several people stuck in that particular trap... In the UK over 90% of new cars are "purchased" on lease or PCP. The "owners" don't "own" them at all! Ironically it's the people who buy them at 3 or 4 years old after they leave the PCP and end up on the forecourts that can actually afford to "buy" them outright a lot of the time!
@@neilhewitt2761 Oh. I was confused because I didn't know who you meant by "they"😕.
Maybe it's different here in Australia but I did look into that sort of thing but the payments were way too expensive - no cheaper in the long run than getting a loan and buying it outright, which I also couldn't afford.
I have Audi A4 2016. No issues so far, 100k miles
Nice
Update: my new car is 🥁🥁🥁
Audi SQ5!
Yes BMW 330 is the car that I want to buy. It seems you saw my question in your previous video. Thank you very much.
You are very welcome. They are nicely dressed cars and full of tech. Best performance in its class as well, just be sure to follow up on the recalls
Actually, that's one BMW that I would buy. The B58 seems to be the one to buy. B48, not so much, but a personal choice, not liking any 4 cylinder.
Great info, as always!
I just sold my audi s5 and got a 340i loving the car so far
Absolutely I would say great choice too. I would love to hear of any updates with time as well.
Crazy …. Your would think for the price , the engineering to the power plant could be comparable to the cosmetic looks🤔 for the cost🤔 Thank you for sharing 💪
Yes, the cosmetics is generally the first thing to consider when buying a car. If it looks great, it must be great. Not knowing the mechanical problems you will encounter down the road with engine and transmission. $968 for annual maintenance is not exactly cheap. More if you need a new engine rebuilt, replaced. And transmission issues. Those repairs are not cheap.
@@curtisstewart9426 that’s why no matter what anyone says Lexus is the way to go if you want a reliable vehicle with a low cost of ownership.
@@snowfox7739 I have been told that. A friend of my father bought his wife a new Lexus. Just before the pandemic of 2020. He said his wife loves it. He's a retired high ranking sergeant from the US Marines.
@@curtisstewart9426 $968 for annual maintenance if you don't drive it.
@@curtisstewart9426 Nobody said there were no smart sergeants. Occasionally.
Can you do a Mercedes vs Audi video?
My 1988 Audi 5000 turbo had the bulletproof inline-5 and reliable turbocharger. Everything else broke, notably the transmission…
... and I have not seen a single one with power steering pump not leaking.
I don't think there is any car that was ever produced that would not have had everything eventually break by the year 2022. Hopefully you got rid of that old death-trap and bought a modern Audi.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior Actually you are wrong - I had a 1998 Civic (don't try this is 2000+ honda!) that survived two crazy teens learning how to drive. I sold it a couple of years ago after it starting using oil. Mileage unknown - odometer let go but my estimate is about 300K.
6 cylinder and 12 if include inverter may be long lasting with power and style
Let's see
...and the winner is, Toyota
I love my manual E82 135i *N55!* coupe.
Great information, but I'd choose None of the above. Those are only lease-worth cars. Not for long-term commitment. Sorry.
The lower Audi models like the A3 are more reliable, as the MQB platform is more mature (introduced in 2012) and is shared with many VW models like the Golf which means they have had a ton of time with a huge sample size to work out most of the kinks. Compare that to S5/S7 which are newer platforms with bigger engines on cars with less sales.
I had 3 BMW, no problem of reliability at all. Regarding oil consumption and long term, it's the way you drive the car that will make the difference. I see people driving full speed with cold engines. Nothing can destruct your car more.
Urban legend...
Just bought 2015 Audi Q5 2.0t and experiencing oil consumption issues. Car run great no smoke or noises. Local mechanic told me to use Liqui Moly to slow consumption. I wonder if I can run this reliable for a few years and keep close eye on oil levels?
It may be ok but with too much consumption it could lead to spark plug fouling and possible misfire if things get back enough and fouled or plugged Catalytic Convertors are pricey. Personally I would also monitor the rate of consumption and make sure things do t get worse. There are some engines that use a little oil regardless
Oil consumption is not normal regardless what dealers say - not with today's tech. They just make crap.
@@123andme Absolutely! But every single manufacturer has the "1 qt OR MORE per 1000 miles is acceptable" disclaimer. The difference is some can barely stay within that limit, others don't need to worry. My 2004 4Runner with 280,000 miles doesn't burn a drop of oil between changes (4-5,000mi).
@@123andmenot true, small turbo engines with high compression and a need to be “green” use thin oil which does lead to blow by etc. the PVC recirc into the intake of modern cars also doesn’t help. Oil dilution will be more of an issue going forward for any brand. Objectively your statements on other brands not having problems is false. I’d point out dealers make their money off of service and Toyota service bays are as full as anyone else’s. The intellectual dissonance required to believe otherwise is startling.
I can suggest you to do a piston soak, if you have the means
Service plan and extended warranty, theyre both great car makers. There are problems with every brand. I bought a used toyota tacoma thinking the truck was indestructible and woruld run forever, ended buying a new driveshaft and it needed a timing chain, def not cheap. Owned a Ford Focus that had to go back to ford for its dual clutch trans about 8 times before we sold it. I just spent 15K on a new motor for a C7 corvette with 65K miles and always had reg maintenance done it (stuck lifter). Splurge on the extended warranties up front and keep up the maintenance and youll be fine. I own a 2022 Audi S5 and absolutely love the damn thing
Two words...rod bearings... How BMW thinks that is a maintenance item is beyond me.
These BMW fanboy clowns are definitely smoking the good stuff. I already know the bias, goin in to these videos, but watch for fun anyway.
Bro how people single handedly will blame brands for random stuff. A lot of Audis have their timing belt in the back of the engine requiring to pull the whole thing out and even the v10 Audis a new alternator requires pulling the whole engine. It’s all German brands 🤡
.......................... Simple the WINNER IS: the person who does not buy either!
Yes
BMW also managed to screw up some of the Mini engineering - the cam chains particularly are not up to the job (on some models at least) and the VVT is a duff design which should have never got off the ground.
Would be interesting to know if they've sorted this out on the later/latest models
That is true BMW carried both some good practices and not such good practices to the table for the minis. They are fun to drive though
When a new car is so laden with technology, then it is more important to know how good the warranty is. Do they include a loaner? Lease it and never worry about stuff going wrong.
IME Audi are cheaper to repair than BMW, and I do own both. Audi parts are shared with other brands VW, Seat..etc. and this makes the parts cheaper then BMW oem parts. Audi are also easier to work own (if you DIY your repairs) while on BMW I spent hours to open something because of how tight and jammed engine bay layout.
BUT what I hate about Audis is the extremely thin body paint. You have to be seriously careful when washing the car to not damage the thin lacquer or the paint itself.
What's wrong with the s5 specifically? Genuine question
Same question I have. He knocked the S5 but didn't say why. In fact all he did was compliment it. He also complimented the A4s which share the same platform as the A/S/RS5 so it doesn't add up.
Its not a reliable car if you have to spend a lot of money to it
Been watching your channel since day 1 keep up the great work and content!!
What do you think about the current A5 Sportback? Thinking about purchasing one.
Me: I'm going to buy a new car today
Ecpp: stay away from all cars
Unless they are special to drive
@@ECPP exactly
When they insert many plastic parts in the engine its only a matter of time before those parts fail . Change your oil ahead of time .
From my European / Eastern European perspective his isn't exactly a lineup that makes sense for most people - a car got to be a universal (station wagon) - Avant and Touring models in case of Audi and BMW, or a hatch back. 4x4... Well, yes, it makes sense _sometimes_ here during our winters, but most of the time it's not needed. I mean, it's for commuting, not for showing off. Sure it's different here also because Germany is nearby, it's not a luxury import from overseas. 😆
I’m biased because I own a 21 year old 2.7t that’s pushing 352 hp 307 tq on completely stock components. Original turbos and everything. Only thing that’s not stock is the ECU.
Thanks. Guess I’ll avoid both
Thanks
Anything with the b58 inline 6 is bullet proof. I’d avoid all others same with Audi , 3.0T(super charged) is legendary. Ppl gotta learn how to shop power trains not seat colors lol. Own a 2022 340i and before this I had an s4 with 185k miles with the 3.0t. Both very fun, very reliable but KEEP UP WITH BASIC MAINTENANCE.
The b58 is a solid runner
Generally speaking Bmws are a little reliable compared to audi. But newer Audi V8 engines are more reliable than n63s. Bmw straight 6 can run forever, I've own those with no issues and over 200k miles. Audi v6, and 4 cylinders are terrible as they age. Those A4s can be lil devils. Seen friends get new engines for them. A6 too, seen new engine replacements on them. Not the current models, but previous generations. Older v8s audis have carbon buildup that totals cars, BMW v8s stem seals too. I have always went with straight 6s
I’m looking into a used 2019 Audi A4 Quattro with 20k or less miles i heard the new b9 generation audis are more reliable idk by how much tho it was between that or a used c300
@@nathanielordonez2257 Which did you end up getting and how was it?
What about the rs3? Thinking about getting the new one when they release in the states but I’m new to the euro car world, any things I should know?
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80200 miles on my 2015 650i gran coupe. Been extremely reliable. Replaced fuel injectors and hfpp while under warranty at 43000. I sent 1 dme to have mosfit repaired paid 450.00. That’s the only repairs other then general maintenance. I love my bmw it’s a Cadillac/corvette in one.
Cadillac/corvette in one? The worst compliment I can think of...
What do you think about the 2017 Mercedes GLS 550? With 60k miles, what can I expect if I drive normal?
I prefer that BMW's are more reliable than Audi's, especially the ones that are non-turbocharged and have the 3 L six-cylinder engine.
i 2nd this message
I like having the turbocharged 3 liter. If I need the power, I have it. Just don’t drive it hard all the time and this way the reliability should be almost as good as the non turbo engine.
Thank you for the excellent review. very precise and knowledgable. I always enjoy all the videos.
Our pleasure!
Marco BMW or any German cars were square boxes in design until they got together with Italian car designers in the early to mid 80's then they really took off. I remember BMW's were just like boxes even though they did drive well you could feel the quality in engine and build quality but boring looks.
Toyota in Europe just moved onto a 10 year warranty if you have your vehicle dealer serviced , I'll stick with Toyota !
I’m in the market for an 2013-2015 RS5 doing under 80,000km. I’ll be using it year-round. But sparingly as I’ll be mainly work from home. I love that car and I want to baby it for as long as it can last me. Any info on reliability of that RS5 model, and common problems to look out for?
Solution is to buy an accord 2.0T and you won't have the problems. Very similar.
@@123andmeare you broken? What the hell is wrong with you? Sigh. Who knew HONDA/TOYOTA fanboi’s would be so bored they haunt video comment sections like this? It’s…amazing.
The answer is neither of them for reliability. For that you need a Toyota. But then you die falling asleep at the wheel while driving a Toyota.
Lol.
New toyo camry v6 has 306hp. Any newer lexus has 306hp. It is fast and fun. Not design ti drag race btw. Lol
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You said the S5 isn’t reliable but you went ahead and followed with the S4 is… then proceeded to talk about the interior… without mentioning the problems… so I’m confused here as what is the problems as you didn’t mention any.
The new B9 in the S5 is literally the same exact engine in the S4 and SQ5. How can one be super reliable but the rest are not?
I’ve had and have both. Personally both have been quite reliable, but Audi def had more minor issues.
Cna you please do one on 2018 Volkswagen Tiguan?
You bet
I currently own a 2013 VW Jetta GLI and I've always wished that it had awd capability. Guess I need to upgrade to an audi s3 as they're the same car essentially.
Audi is the winner...!! Love my audi a5... Made 100. 000 Kilometers with it.... Only regular maintaince servis is needed!!
That’s only 60,000 miles, even BMWs with the N54s are getting 200,000 miles and higher.
@@gtmike916 just have it for 2 years.... But former A6 i climbed to 350.000 Km.... I drive only Audi... Had Audi 80, a4, a6, TT now a5...
@@pulie2330 Nice glad to see you have gotten good things going on with Audi.
@@gtmike916 thank you 💪
What is your opinion on a current gen Audi RS3 reliability?
I think the rs3's engine is going to be on the more reliable side. That engine has been with Audi for 20+ years. If anything it's a bit of a dinosaur for them by comparison, but it was the engine of choice in their early rally days because of its tunability. Personally, I'd prefer to buy an engine that a manufacturer has been making for years and years over something they just released. They have had way more time to iron out the kinks with it, and the 5 cylinder 2.5 has been with VW and AUDI for ages.
Wonder if I should get a TT OR a S5. Even though S5 are not that reliable.
TTRS all day
Very educative….thanks
You are very welcome
I would say Audis are slightly less expensive to repair than BMWs as most can be fixed with VW parts and more mechanics can work on them, especially if they already work on VWs, unlike BMW where most parts are more proprietory. In addition, 2wd Audis are front wheel drive and are less complex. Still, if you want something truely reliable, go for Japanese brands
Another problem with the n20 is that it sounded like a diesel. The b48 is very fuel efficient. In fact my 2019 330i xdrive is more fuel Efficient than my 2016 Mazda 6.
the BMW engine is probably less stressed and running lower RPM than the Mazda. Thats one thing I like. It makes things quieter and less frenetic.
what do you think about the 2020 -2022 Audi A6? How reliable are they?
Better than the older cars
iI have owned an X3, 428, M3 and now I own an M240 and an A5. i tell you that I had 0 issues with all the BMWs I owned. no issues with the A5 so far as well. I have noticed a couple things drivng the M240 and the A5 back to back all the time, the M240 interior looks very classic compared to the A5 but the build quality and material are better than the Audi's. the Audi is more pleasing to the eye for sure but the BMW's seat are more supportive and the infotainment system is better in the M240. for example, the m240 has bluetooth Apple car play while Audi does not have it. you will need to connect the phone via USB in order to access Apple car play in the A5 . Finally the noise rattle in the A5 drives me nuts. even the seat leather is noisy. both drive so differnt though, I like them both for differnt reasons. One thing, I owned all my cars under warranty and maintenance contracts.
Hahaha bruh. The cars don’t fall apart before 20k miles. We’re talking when a car gets 5 years old and 100k miles. If you were to keep them that long, you would have problems. Oil leaks and electric crap breaking.
It’s just insane to me that people pay bmw so much money, and their engineering team can’t figure out how to build an engine that doesn’t leak oil.
This is an anomaly.
@@gsu4life1 facts
Statistical aberrations. If you tell the truth, that is. But something tells me you are used car salesman...
I'm looking to purchase a 2014 Audi s5. Are they reliable? Are there any major issues on them?
1. Hell NO. 2. Hell YES.
Could you help me with 2019 Glc300. with 25000 km. Lease left 17 more months and buy back $28k in Feb.2023. Is this a good investment to buy back.
Please and Thanks.
Love your videos.
BMW has a terrible maintenance plan the he has call out the problem is the extended time between oil changes the leads to engine issues and he mentioned the timing belts and chains are the biggest I have heard ! Of them big 3 I’ll stick with Mercedes-Benz with or without warranty!!!
I hate to break it to you. But you can change the oil every 3k miles, and the bmw is still going to leak oil before 100k miles.
@@lesterparker1594 Well he had another video explaining why the BMW’s end up leaking oil and it was that the terrible maintenance schedule but also I understand the quality of this cars is just not there anymore in my opinion and taste I never liked them specially the interior now they look much better but the high maintenance and the quality makes them my last choice from Germany I rather have a Lincoln Aviator!!
I should also add that your comment about increasing the frequency of oil changes should help reliability smacks of a complete lack of logic. Better change it twice as often as the factory says you should change it? Have you ever had an oil analysis done?
Everyone knows that he is right. Especially in a cold environment, cold starts are going to introduce more fuel into the oil during cold start-up. Sure oils are better today but then you have pollution and oil dilution with fuel due to direct injection. Sure oils are better but what with most engine turbocharged, the heat does affect the oil as well. Long intervals are likely not catastrophic but will reduce longevity at hi mile marks.
Thank you so much for this comparison. Newly coming into the next tier of vehicles I need some guidance on my next purchases and your videos have been a huge help. Appreciate you!
Yeah I’ll stick with Toyota/Lexus Acura/Honda. Thank you very much.
Reliable as all get up
I don’t know if I’m right but from a lot of Audi threads. And what I learn the only reason most Audis missfire during cold start up is to heat the cat up faster and warm the engine up. That’s what I seen but still hard to believe unless a Audi tech told me so
That’s an interesting thought for sure
I have a 6 yr old A3-never have had a single issue.
I owned a 520d '11 and E270 Benz bought new in 2003.
The old Mercedes was by far more reliable than the almost new Bmw. Apart from that, the bmw got stolen after a major repair so I guess I will try an Audi A4 now.
Can inverter combustion design can use exhaust renewable as fuel
Wish you had spoke about the Audi A6.