@PerGamingGames has a cool way of showcasing what's currently wrong with the Sorcerer Class. What do you think or would like to see for Season 5? Original Video: ruclips.net/video/VquOlrjClhM/видео.html All my Builds for Season 4 & 5 (I always try to keep it up to date): d4builds.gg/rob2628/builds/
The sorc has 6 key passives, 2 for each element. The sorcs main damage comes from non physical damage and the element is it's vehicle, three of the passives should be elemental based while the other 3 should scale with non physical damage,(ex: direct, dot, and cc). Or change some nodes in paragon to reflect this, just my thoughts about it.
@Rob2628 Since early D3 days, I've only played sorc. The most basic and impactful change we need is the off hand focus needs to be treated like the rogues bow. It should not take up a "hand" and should orbit the sorc. This means you can wield two 1h weapons (wand, sword, and dagger) or a 2h staff or greatsword. Nearly as fundamental, give back the 3rd enchantment slot. Finally, a 50% or more base damage increase to every skill and enchantment effect, maybe 100% on the key passives. I see these as simple enough changes to implement before season 5 so sorcs don't have to wait over 2 months to enjoy the game again. Beyond that, more detailed reworks of the entire paragon board and improving the glyphs, legendary nodes, and basically all the skills and passives as well, but that should be given time to get right. The 3 things above should andcould be implemented by the start of season 5 if they don't want to lose a 5th of their player base.
It's not just the passives. The entire paragon board needs reworked. Including glyphs and legendary nodes and rare nodes. Allow sorc to wield 2 hand weapon, 1 hand weapon, AND focus to adjust for aspects. Give us another enchantment slot at level 80, and let the spells cast from enchantment slots count as being "cast" for the purposes of what they can proc with lucky hit and other effects.
Im 110% convinced they're pushing basic skill meta just in case some there devs need to make a demo video again and now they won't look stupid for just using basic skill over and over again
@@1ButtonDash Because they never knew what they were doing from the start so just copy d3 you know because nobody wants a game more like d2 than d3 lol
The 2 classes with most gear slots, rogue and barbarian, are the only 2 classes with uncapped keystones. It's not rocket science as to why the other classes fall behind them. I would like to see a 1.5x offensive belt slot added to the game for sorc, druid, and necro. It's not fair that the 2 classes with the most stats have uncapped ways to scale stats. It's actually dumb.
5,000% dmg increase with Grandfather + Gushing Wounds compare that to... Vyr's Mastery +25% dmg to close LMAO 5000% vs 25% HAHAHA this cannot be real tho lol. are these devs high?!?!
That is exactly the problem but the question is how to fix it. In theory the two enchantment slots are supposed to be equivalent to the extra two 2H weapons for barbarian. Clearly this is not the case. The same is true for druid and necromancer too. Given the choice of two extra 2H weapon slots who would choose spirit boons or the book of the dead? Rogues get a choice of three specializations. Based on the fact that they are only one 2H weapon down from barbarian that specialization should be equivalent to one 2H weapon. Again, I do not feel that it is. That said, clearly the rogue is the closest to the barbarian in terms of power. To balance the sorc with the barbarian, the enchantment slots should be reworked so that each one really is equivalent to having an extra 2H weapon (with tempering and a nice aspect with double its regular effect) as well as reworking the paragon and skills. Alternatively nerf the barbarian. The classes should be reworked. I can't really speak regarding druid and necromancer as I don't play them much.
Im just wondering why is it so hard to balance classes. I understand its not gonna be perfect, but why not have playtesters hired to math out everything, run pits and try to get all builds to a level playing field. Sure, min maxing will ruin everything in the end, but if I cant build ice shards or charged bolts and clear 150 just like everyone else because boss takes 10 minutes to kill, that seems like an obvious problem that should be handled right away, not 10 seasons later. Sorc has been in a bad spot since launch simply because of damage being hidden behind cc/vulnerable as a class mechanic.
Why are they constantly nerfing shit and making such destinct meta seasons for classes and builds per classes. Each class must have a handful of solid different playstyles and builds. Just stop nerfing shit and start buffing @Blizzard
We gave feedback about Sorc since release and all we got was nerfs and bugs. They are not gonna fix Sorc before season 6 cause that would distract the audience from Spiritborn and VOH preorders. So we are fu(#&@ for at least few months...
I suspect Sorc belongs to the causal player friendly classes. I read somewhere that sorc has the largest player base, vast majority of which, however, won't reach lv 100. This is why it has many top leveling builds but they fall off fast in end games. This is likely the strategy of Blizzard, making some classes end game classes and some other classes entry level classes. The balance Blizzard cares the most is user base balance rather than class endgame balance.
this is the first season i played sorc, fell into the fractured hourglass frozen orb build and went with it. didn't look at a guide either. I can push pit 80ish. tormented bosses, only killed Zir so far and I felt like I was just about to die. it's a fun build but not sure what else I can do to get higher or kill other tormented bosses
@@AnatoleVGC True, I'm making Ice Shard build, other than Firebolt I really don't care what I put in the second enchantment slot because they are all weak.
But there only single strong enchantement right now. What you even use 3rd? 2nd already does almost nothing in terms of power. Most enchantements do some cool cosmetic effects and that's it
Inadvertently pauses the video during the zoom in on dudes bulge 🤣 made it so much funnier. The bulge represents the ball lightning build in season 2, our 1 and only glorious moment as sorcs 😂
Sorcs have kept saying that key passives and paragon sucks for a year now. Nothing has happened, except they've gotten worse with the caps. Also Sorc tempers and Legendary aspecs are fairly weak, on PTR you had builds equiping almost full uniques because they were better for sorcs than any combo of legendary aspecs and tempers.
lmao, I love Perra! he is the best new guy on the scene lately! he has Frostylaroo energy, in just saying... the straight truth. Not being nice or mean, just straight up "this is how things are" and I appreciate that! guy is really funny too lol
guess im skipping another season... i have skipped more seasons than i actually played. not sure why they think i will purchase an expansion with this much incompetence.
The Sorcerer is far too squishy, everything one shots you. Sorcerer needs a massive damage reduction rework. You make me glass cannon but give me some of the worst damage in the game. Only at Blizzard.
@@legendinthemaking1864 The Sorcerer gets one shot in pit tier 60 with Masterworked gear. If they gave the Sorcerer damage to match, then I might understand, but they didn't. The Sorcerer is by far the worst class in the game in terms of survivability and damage. It's just fundamentally wrong.
Should I keep playing this game? I quit Warframe because one of the devs had a divorce and decided for about 3-5 years to just nerf shit to the ground every patch. Sounds similar and I’ll just move on before the disappointment happens.
also, what they are doing right now, they dont have a clue how to balance the classes, so they are increasing the base dmg of core skills... cant express how disapointing that is
Fully agree that soft caps would have been a way better solution and should actually be implemented instead of hard caps. Hard capping armor in itself doesn't make any sense, you can't avoid being over the cap but it's completely useless.
Really drives home Rob's point too. The fact that armor caps means every build needs the same number of armor rolls and armor tempers, and then you never have to the think about the stat again. It's such bad, lazy, and unfun design.
@kirrrbbby exactly, some other content creator actually responded quite hostile when they first introduced it and because I said it's stupid to simply have a cap and then it means nothing anymore.
Every class and mos of their builds however you build them as long as there’s some sense of logical synergies should be viable. Honestly it’s already going to be season 5 soon and I’m getting really tired of wanting to play a specific build I prefer and actually have fun with only to be forced to change my build to whatever the meta is because other builds are to weak or got nerfed or completely ditching an entire class like Druid who’s pulverize is my absolute favorite play style hands down just to play any of the other classes. They need to balance the classes over all and complete get rid of the nerf system we have choices and options which is what the game is about and that’s the suppose to be the fun of it but instead season after season we’re forced to play the way blizzard wants us to play or needing out of reach ridiculous amounts of Ubers to make it further etc. stop balancing the game by making people’s favorite builds and play styles worse to make what you want to be the best forcing people to play those builds.
Blizz dev pipeline is like how microsoft made all windows version. Focus on making new version rather fixing old problem. Based on previous history of how they handle last season feedback, its kind of unrealistic to expect any major changes for sorc next season; may be only a few tweaks on base number here and there. Also capping totally kill the fun .. at end game, the motivation of collect better items only to scale those cap ..
Rob has the worst take ever on bugs lol. When they fix bugs he calls them nerfs. It’s a BUG, it’s not intended and it’s a mistake lol. So when they fix it it’s being FIXED not nerfed.
There’s a couple changes I think would be beneficial to sorcs. 1.) a 3rd enchantment slot would be a nice boost without breaking the game. With the lack of aspect slots this would somewhat make up for it. 2.) allow a focus to be equipped with a 2 handed weapon. They could even disable all the inherent traits and the affixes, just making it an additional aspect slot. A fireball sorc with both uniques equipped realistically only has 1 offensive aspect open since Tal Rasha’s is almost permanent and the other ring/amulet is dedicated to mana regen. 3.) most of the uniques are just overshadowed by legendary aspects and the fact that legendary gear is so much more modular. They could turn gravitational aspect into a unique that made any core/mastery skill rotate around you. Give it chance for core/mastery skills to cast twice, mana cost reduction, damage to close enemies, ranks to core/mastery skills. Pair up ball lightning with frozen orb enchantment and Starfall Coronet and you’d have a nasty build
Idk why the smooth brains at blizzard have such trouble balancing a game. Oh this build can’t clear as high as this other build? JUST BUMP UP IT NUMBERS UNTIL ITS CLOSE. it’s literally one of the easiest game types to balance. But for some reason they think they can only do these change once a season and it’s the most difficult thing in the world. It’s literally an excel spread sheet for damage and survivability. I could get a 10 year old to do it
i dont know why we talk in season 4 about the status of the game. i bought addon too now , it is now 130Euro and hey we see we have now a better game but it isnt what we thought or wish. we should stop thinking about and take what they us gave. they know better then we what they have to fix. a simplpe example was at begin" we have over 100 dungeons" right, but what we think about endboss in a dungeon?all the same. there is no 100 diffrent mechanics and no 100 diffrent boss types it was another betray to sell it. now today same status how day1?ok we can say now working on it was effectless or? skilltrees boring on every class, unblanced classes cant never never never ever provide a working "ihavefun" pvp part. no social parts, no groupfinder, made it to a rly good single player game, why? to example uberboss - 3 join after 1 of 4 in group killed boss nearly to death????that is a multiplayer??? it is boring how hell to watch it. i cant see no fun by that. i wont let another kill it for me.... and if u able to kill theses bosses u played am long time solo bored without gameprogress in a very ugly endgame. now tempering, i rly love it BUT after weeks playing and u find maybe in pit or whereever a 3star rly good piece - u go tempering - 5min later - it is a fail and u can throw (the only 1 good piece u found in weeks) it insant in the paperbag. useless destroyed another big mistake and iam sure it wll give alot players "iwll give up feelings". no progress too, blocked by system.applause for that? that season iam searching for shako how in every season before and iam very not happy to do it another time and another time and another time,,, i think u find it 1st time u unlock recipe of it and next season and all seasons after u can produce it every season by help of that recipe. sparks material they can throw in paperbag too, nobody use it in that kind of a game. i have now 5 of em i wont make a shako with sparks because we play barb u need 2hand sword and shako or maybe magier u need starless skies and shako or another class... (is the same ) u have to find 1st of both and after finding that 1st - u use sparks to produce the 2nd... now i feeling me after killing uberduriel i belive 5-8 times and alot more normal duriel, total sucessless because no shako no grandfather but i found the mage ring... why what why that ring, it is a barb!!!!!! and hey 12 hearths for 2 bosskills is a complete day solo ......pfff let us spawn em without material, why that material block???why??!!!this is the boring cicle ingame we wont play!!! ok we lvlt all that season 4 or 5 chars because it was fun to play 600%+ xp and hey it was a multiplayerfeeling in helltide for a short moment of the season, but we all did it because assa and crit problem and sparks, not why we rly want to do it, or? ok first time now 4 season chars showing rly fast next big problem, storagespacecolapse. u have problems to handle with single 1 class because u wll play maybe more then 1 build. i wrote the simple solution and hey 1 year after same status. that i cant belive. there is the problem - all solutions i read in forums or saw online never implanted in the game. in my eyes comunity igno mode on. lvl part is now fine on way to lvl 100 BUT now it starting chaotic, we take pit it is easy to explain. lvl 30/60/100 u did the material failure but if u thinking aroud that corner why u not had same idea with loot, lvl 30 =1star equip lvl60=2star equip, lvl 100=2-3 stars equip. i never belive you not thought same by programming. why now the 3 stars "where are you?" problem - u created it. storage to example is rly easy to fix, u need only 1 stashpart of that 6 for every season char and let the other 5 per character. stash1 of that 6, u use to change equip between diffrent season chars. but no, why, it is what it is, all chars 1 stash.... okback to pit. a step forwards in right direction. but i cant get the bigger portal feeling how in d3. i cant feel it nearly , i miss it, it was the we meet each other part in d3. now pit runs lvl 30/60/100 u have to do to push equip, 1st i thought fine it is logical. BUT! after 1st euip part upgrading (i did weapons 1st) i realized i have to play lvl 30 pit a lot times to push it all, lvl 30=1klick,1hit,all is dead. it is starting next rly feeling braindead feeling and after maybe 10-20 runs i rly start sleeping by active playing. that is worldwide premier.no other game did it before to me. i cant accept that if u play pit lvl 100+ not dropping golden and blue materials too. sorry me now but i rly have unfriendly asking the dev team u not saw it before let us play it? nobody in ptr? maybe u wll hire me for 1 year to fix the easy things? completely unacceptabel. that game wll be rly good first time - if whole team read 2days only i forum. wll it happen? helltide is now good maybe 2 bossshrines more per map diffrent boss?its good to play. pit too short&small&less variable endboss.... but fights now are better then before not good but better. forgeing is a complete desaster with reroll cap, 4-7times in a row the same wrong stat in a row is not good programmed in my eyes - here is the simple solution. choose the stats u need in a list and roll only the 1 stat endless times for max it. that game is destroying byself because it is typicaly example for "too complicate thinking" u can see result of it direct by playing. there are very much easier problems but i dont get the money to solve em, they get it , they have to deliver. not we! and best joke ever was forum bann "writeing in eng in a german forum but the german forum is english nature"
I just saw they gave sorc a 15-20% dam increase along a few other buffs but I really don't know if it will be enough. I really hope Blizzard or the people who actually matter watch this video and change things accordingly.
I came back in season 4 after the insane nerving during launch/season 1. Forget it... They will keep nerving Sorcerer. They only want you to play barb, So I now quit playing D4
I think every class should just have easy paths to damage reduction/dodge/shield. I would play sorc or rogue if they felt as beefy as barb, I think every ARPG struggles there.
Sorc Is my favorite class and I tend to rapidly loose interest in a game when the mage is a PoS. I just hope they fix the sorcerer and make it decent again... It's not nice, it's not good, every class should have at least one build that feels good and overpowered. Give us that.
Remove damage caps, make everything overpowered, that way no one cares if barb is doing 100 billion compared to a sorc's 25 billion, as long as the boss dies in a good amount of time it's good. They really need to take notes from Last Epoch on build freedom.
When they started to introduce caps, I thought it was a necessary move, but now I think its just a cheap way to keep build balance somewhat under control because they can't figure out the right way to fix the legendary nodes and key passisves -_-.
If you would actually like to see changes to the Sorc class, the only thing bungie listens to is your wallet. DO NOT buy the expansion. If enough people stop giving them money they will pull their heads out of their ass and start paying attention to feedback again.
D4 is pretty cursed for me. I'm a crusader main who can't play a crusader. I tried the other classes and sorc felt cool, really fast and I loved teleporting in and pulling all the mobs to me and blowing them up. I might just have to come to terms with enjoying a lower tier class that cant compete in the end game.
Now this is some serious content! I play Sorc exclusively and would love to see Sorc having some S tier builds as well. And maybe more options for the enchantments since some of them are just too strong (Fire bolt one) so you lose options. And I agree there should be some consistency in the passives for all classes wrt scaling damage.
you can tell the devs don't play their own damn game to know better.. none of them know how to make a build or theory craft.. you can tell based on the shit changes and new gear.
Who’s the best sorc streamer that actually post tons of videos? Sorc has a rubber band issue with teleport if you choose the far camera on PS5 and you actually bounce off objects.
I have played all but druid and sorc is my least favorite to play tbh. But that is probably due to feeling like your hitting demons with a wet pool noodle and not reflective of how the class plays. Its hard to tell
Thats so fucking true and thats the reason why I am stressing so much. Please Rob tell Blizzard if you are there that they have to fix my loveley favoutite class the Sorc. Please please please Rob do that and I love you forever 🙏 thats what i said since the preseason balancing patch sorc is shit echot season two big balls …
03:30 YES!! A throw back to when I said you looked like Rick Astley. You gained a follower that day and my respect. I wasn't even trying to rickroll or anything. You legit reminded me of him. And you looked him up on stream and just kept on blasting after.
give all the classes an extra amulet and ring slot except barb and rogue since they already have extra weapon slots. and even after that, sorc still needs an insane amount of buffs. sorc is pitiful right now
@PerGamingGames has a cool way of showcasing what's currently wrong with the Sorcerer Class. What do you think or would like to see for Season 5?
Original Video: ruclips.net/video/VquOlrjClhM/видео.html
All my Builds for Season 4 & 5 (I always try to keep it up to date): d4builds.gg/rob2628/builds/
The sorc has 6 key passives, 2 for each element. The sorcs main damage comes from non physical damage and the element is it's vehicle, three of the passives should be elemental based while the other 3 should scale with non physical damage,(ex: direct, dot, and cc). Or change some nodes in paragon to reflect this, just my thoughts about it.
#buffsorcs
@Rob2628 Since early D3 days, I've only played sorc. The most basic and impactful change we need is the off hand focus needs to be treated like the rogues bow. It should not take up a "hand" and should orbit the sorc. This means you can wield two 1h weapons (wand, sword, and dagger) or a 2h staff or greatsword. Nearly as fundamental, give back the 3rd enchantment slot. Finally, a 50% or more base damage increase to every skill and enchantment effect, maybe 100% on the key passives. I see these as simple enough changes to implement before season 5 so sorcs don't have to wait over 2 months to enjoy the game again. Beyond that, more detailed reworks of the entire paragon board and improving the glyphs, legendary nodes, and basically all the skills and passives as well, but that should be given time to get right. The 3 things above should andcould be implemented by the start of season 5 if they don't want to lose a 5th of their player base.
It's not just the passives. The entire paragon board needs reworked. Including glyphs and legendary nodes and rare nodes. Allow sorc to wield 2 hand weapon, 1 hand weapon, AND focus to adjust for aspects. Give us another enchantment slot at level 80, and let the spells cast from enchantment slots count as being "cast" for the purposes of what they can proc with lucky hit and other effects.
OH and for crying out loud. Give us back our 5th stack of Tal Rasha. It wasn't that broken, especially compared to other classes.
Rob really trying to keep blizzard from nerfing barb with these video titles.
Im 110% convinced they're pushing basic skill meta just in case some there devs need to make a demo video again and now they won't look stupid for just using basic skill over and over again
Hahaha that's actually a good point!
they should never of went with basic skill generators, I do nnot understand why they just built off D3
@@1ButtonDash Because they never knew what they were doing from the start so just copy d3 you know because nobody wants a game more like d2 than d3 lol
They could resolve this if they increase the cast range of Sorc to 10km.
Hahahaha epic
Sorc has been my fave class but is simply unplayable after season 2. Needs a complete rework and buffs
Sorcerer is very balanced if you only compare it to other Sorcerer builds! Most builds in the same F tier!
We need the Jay Wilson tactic: DOUBLE IT
Yep 😂
The 2 classes with most gear slots, rogue and barbarian, are the only 2 classes with uncapped keystones. It's not rocket science as to why the other classes fall behind them. I would like to see a 1.5x offensive belt slot added to the game for sorc, druid, and necro. It's not fair that the 2 classes with the most stats have uncapped ways to scale stats. It's actually dumb.
Can you please explain "uncapped" keystones meaning? I'm not following you. Do you mean the glyphics?
@@lil----lil keystones are the final skills on the skill tree.
5,000% dmg increase with Grandfather + Gushing Wounds
compare that to...
Vyr's Mastery +25% dmg to close
LMAO
5000% vs 25%
HAHAHA this cannot be real tho lol. are these devs high?!?!
That is exactly the problem but the question is how to fix it.
In theory the two enchantment slots are supposed to be equivalent to the extra two 2H weapons for barbarian. Clearly this is not the case. The same is true for druid and necromancer too. Given the choice of two extra 2H weapon slots who would choose spirit boons or the book of the dead? Rogues get a choice of three specializations. Based on the fact that they are only one 2H weapon down from barbarian that specialization should be equivalent to one 2H weapon. Again, I do not feel that it is. That said, clearly the rogue is the closest to the barbarian in terms of power.
To balance the sorc with the barbarian, the enchantment slots should be reworked so that each one really is equivalent to having an extra 2H weapon (with tempering and a nice aspect with double its regular effect) as well as reworking the paragon and skills. Alternatively nerf the barbarian. The classes should be reworked. I can't really speak regarding druid and necromancer as I don't play them much.
Doesn't seem to me that Necro needs a boost at all
As a Sorc you need to spam so many skills to just survive in Pit 90+.
it feels like if flameshield isnt up, anything that touches a sorc kills instantly
I love that your reacting to Perra Gaming I’ve been watching him for a while now and can’t get enough lol
This will give him a lot of viewers, very happy for perr
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Im just wondering why is it so hard to balance classes. I understand its not gonna be perfect, but why not have playtesters hired to math out everything, run pits and try to get all builds to a level playing field. Sure, min maxing will ruin everything in the end, but if I cant build ice shards or charged bolts and clear 150 just like everyone else because boss takes 10 minutes to kill, that seems like an obvious problem that should be handled right away, not 10 seasons later. Sorc has been in a bad spot since launch simply because of damage being hidden behind cc/vulnerable as a class mechanic.
Dmg on tuesdays… still!?
100 % true this guy just keeps dropping bangers
Ur too hecking gooooood.
Why are they constantly nerfing shit and making such destinct meta seasons for classes and builds per classes. Each class must have a handful of solid different playstyles and builds. Just stop nerfing shit and start buffing @Blizzard
We gave feedback about Sorc since release and all we got was nerfs and bugs. They are not gonna fix Sorc before season 6 cause that would distract the audience from Spiritborn and VOH preorders. So we are fu(#&@ for at least few months...
Interesting point. I hope Ur wrong tho but fuk..
I suspect Sorc belongs to the causal player friendly classes. I read somewhere that sorc has the largest player base, vast majority of which, however, won't reach lv 100. This is why it has many top leveling builds but they fall off fast in end games.
This is likely the strategy of Blizzard, making some classes end game classes and some other classes entry level classes.
The balance Blizzard cares the most is user base balance rather than class endgame balance.
nah barb will be the best no matter...the game literally name Barb 4 soon vassel of barb
this is the first season i played sorc, fell into the fractured hourglass frozen orb build and went with it. didn't look at a guide either. I can push pit 80ish. tormented bosses, only killed Zir so far and I felt like I was just about to die. it's a fun build but not sure what else I can do to get higher or kill other tormented bosses
guess I will just skip season 5 all together...rip sorcs.
Just give us back our 3rd enchantment slot FFS. I'm tired of having to always slot firebolt
That really solves nothing. Our enchantment sucks. We need the 3rd one back and a full rework of enchantments and key passives
@@AnatoleVGC True, I'm making Ice Shard build, other than Firebolt I really don't care what I put in the second enchantment slot because they are all weak.
Nah I want 4 rings 😏😉😉
Dude... Bring back beta sorc frs
But there only single strong enchantement right now. What you even use 3rd? 2nd already does almost nothing in terms of power. Most enchantements do some cool cosmetic effects and that's it
Inadvertently pauses the video during the zoom in on dudes bulge 🤣 made it so much funnier. The bulge represents the ball lightning build in season 2, our 1 and only glorious moment as sorcs 😂
This guy is waaaay more fun than frosty !
Sorcerer Will Be The Best Class In Season 5, But Only If Rob make a video titled with " Sorc is out of control"...😇😇😇
Sorcs have kept saying that key passives and paragon sucks for a year now. Nothing has happened, except they've gotten worse with the caps. Also Sorc tempers and Legendary aspecs are fairly weak, on PTR you had builds equiping almost full uniques because they were better for sorcs than any combo of legendary aspecs and tempers.
Yoooo… the cap on Wither is trash. It’s completing destroying Shadow Blood Wave for Necro. Please highlight
SE4 he was carrying about flame shield . Congratulations for destroying sorrc
lmao, I love Perra! he is the best new guy on the scene lately! he has Frostylaroo energy, in just saying... the straight truth. Not being nice or mean, just straight up "this is how things are" and I appreciate that! guy is really funny too lol
guess im skipping another season... i have skipped more seasons than i actually played. not sure why they think i will purchase an expansion with this much incompetence.
The Sorcerer is far too squishy, everything one shots you. Sorcerer needs a massive damage reduction rework. You make me glass cannon but give me some of the worst damage in the game. Only at Blizzard.
Why are we asking for a Sorcerer.... A mage that wears cloth armor, to be a tank? None of u guys make sense. It's supposed to be squishy
@@legendinthemaking1864 The Sorcerer gets one shot in pit tier 60 with Masterworked gear. If they gave the Sorcerer damage to match, then I might understand, but they didn't. The Sorcerer is by far the worst class in the game in terms of survivability and damage. It's just fundamentally wrong.
hi rob love you content i was wondering that wallpaper you show with the sorch wany where i can get my handss on it :-)
every class should be able to achieve S+ tier.. otherwise it's just a never ending cycle of trash
Also Sorc has some really underwhelming tempuring recipes
Low health pool and squeezhy . Barriers trash gets depleted in split second
Ha ha haha haha ha so funny and so true - Sorcerer sucks and is shyt ha ha ha ha ha Rob's face showed up at the end - ha ha ha ha ha so funny.
Should I keep playing this game? I quit Warframe because one of the devs had a divorce and decided for about 3-5 years to just nerf shit to the ground every patch. Sounds similar and I’ll just move on before the disappointment happens.
Bro looks like Beavis. its uncanny, why is this not spoken about more?
Oh man people do talk about that 😂
@@Rob2628 hahahahaha
also, what they are doing right now, they dont have a clue how to balance the classes, so they are increasing the base dmg of core skills... cant express how disapointing that is
sorc basic skill suck ass they need to allow a different build...
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Fully agree that soft caps would have been a way better solution and should actually be implemented instead of hard caps. Hard capping armor in itself doesn't make any sense, you can't avoid being over the cap but it's completely useless.
Really drives home Rob's point too. The fact that armor caps means every build needs the same number of armor rolls and armor tempers, and then you never have to the think about the stat again. It's such bad, lazy, and unfun design.
@kirrrbbby exactly, some other content creator actually responded quite hostile when they first introduced it and because I said it's stupid to simply have a cap and then it means nothing anymore.
09:06 that would be the best fix for balance
Every class and mos of their builds however you build them as long as there’s some sense of logical synergies should be viable. Honestly it’s already going to be season 5 soon and I’m getting really tired of wanting to play a specific build I prefer and actually have fun with only to be forced to change my build to whatever the meta is because other builds are to weak or got nerfed or completely ditching an entire class like Druid who’s pulverize is my absolute favorite play style hands down just to play any of the other classes. They need to balance the classes over all and complete get rid of the nerf system we have choices and options which is what the game is about and that’s the suppose to be the fun of it but instead season after season we’re forced to play the way blizzard wants us to play or needing out of reach ridiculous amounts of Ubers to make it further etc. stop balancing the game by making people’s favorite builds and play styles worse to make what you want to be the best forcing people to play those builds.
S tier Chain lighting build would be fun
sorc in the add on will be pushed down from 5th to 6th place. just kidding sorc will be everywhere as mercanary
Where can I get this insane sorceress wallpaper?
Blizz dev pipeline is like how microsoft made all windows version. Focus on making new version rather fixing old problem. Based on previous history of how they handle last season feedback, its kind of unrealistic to expect any major changes for sorc next season; may be only a few tweaks on base number here and there. Also capping totally kill the fun .. at end game, the motivation of collect better items only to scale those cap ..
please not a basic skill season again
Rob has the worst take ever on bugs lol. When they fix bugs he calls them nerfs. It’s a BUG, it’s not intended and it’s a mistake lol. So when they fix it it’s being FIXED not nerfed.
Only playing sorc since D4 launched. Gonna level barb now 😂
When u dropping a music video Rob, ending was great and agree with passive rework for sorc along with capping the nodes. Sorcs need some love.
...Only if the balance team leader is Sorc main player
I love Perra's vids - that and he swears a lot.
Rob what is the best Amulet for a Meteor build???
There’s a couple changes I think would be beneficial to sorcs.
1.) a 3rd enchantment slot would be a nice boost without breaking the game. With the lack of aspect slots this would somewhat make up for it.
2.) allow a focus to be equipped with a 2 handed weapon. They could even disable all the inherent traits and the affixes, just making it an additional aspect slot. A fireball sorc with both uniques equipped realistically only has 1 offensive aspect open since Tal Rasha’s is almost permanent and the other ring/amulet is dedicated to mana regen.
3.) most of the uniques are just overshadowed by legendary aspects and the fact that legendary gear is so much more modular. They could turn gravitational aspect into a unique that made any core/mastery skill rotate around you. Give it chance for core/mastery skills to cast twice, mana cost reduction, damage to close enemies, ranks to core/mastery skills. Pair up ball lightning with frozen orb enchantment and Starfall Coronet and you’d have a nasty build
Idk why the smooth brains at blizzard have such trouble balancing a game. Oh this build can’t clear as high as this other build? JUST BUMP UP IT NUMBERS UNTIL ITS CLOSE. it’s literally one of the easiest game types to balance. But for some reason they think they can only do these change once a season and it’s the most difficult thing in the world. It’s literally an excel spread sheet for damage and survivability. I could get a 10 year old to do it
i dont know why we talk in season 4 about the status of the game. i bought addon too now , it is now 130Euro and hey we see we have now a better game but it isnt what we thought or wish.
we should stop thinking about and take what they us gave. they know better then we what they have to fix. a simplpe example was at begin" we have over 100 dungeons" right, but what we think about endboss in a dungeon?all the same. there is no 100 diffrent mechanics and no 100 diffrent boss types it was another betray to sell it. now today same status how day1?ok we can say now working on it was effectless or?
skilltrees boring on every class, unblanced classes cant never never never ever provide a working "ihavefun" pvp part.
no social parts, no groupfinder, made it to a rly good single player game, why?
to example uberboss - 3 join after 1 of 4 in group killed boss nearly to death????that is a multiplayer??? it is boring how hell to watch it. i cant see no fun by that. i wont let another kill it for me....
and if u able to kill theses bosses u played am long time solo bored without gameprogress in a very ugly endgame.
now tempering, i rly love it BUT after weeks playing and u find maybe in pit or whereever a 3star rly good piece - u go tempering - 5min later - it is a fail and u can throw (the only 1 good piece u found in weeks) it insant in the paperbag. useless destroyed another big mistake and iam sure it wll give alot players "iwll give up feelings". no progress too, blocked by system.applause for that?
that season iam searching for shako how in every season before and iam very not happy to do it another time and another time and another time,,, i think u find it 1st time u unlock recipe of it and next season and all seasons after u can produce it every season by help of that recipe.
sparks material they can throw in paperbag too, nobody use it in that kind of a game. i have now 5 of em i wont make a shako with sparks because we play barb u need 2hand sword and shako or maybe magier u need starless skies and shako or another class... (is the same ) u have to find 1st of both and after finding that 1st - u use sparks to produce the 2nd...
now i feeling me after killing uberduriel i belive 5-8 times and alot more normal duriel, total sucessless because no shako no grandfather but i found the mage ring... why what why that ring, it is a barb!!!!!! and hey 12 hearths for 2 bosskills is a complete day solo ......pfff let us spawn em without material, why that material block???why??!!!this is the boring cicle ingame we wont play!!!
ok we lvlt all that season 4 or 5 chars because it was fun to play 600%+ xp and hey it was a multiplayerfeeling in helltide for a short moment of the season, but we all did it because assa and crit problem and sparks, not why we rly want to do it, or? ok first time now 4 season chars showing rly fast next big problem, storagespacecolapse. u have problems to handle with single 1 class because u wll play maybe more then 1 build. i wrote the simple solution and hey 1 year after same status. that i cant belive. there is the problem - all solutions i read in forums or saw online never implanted in the game. in my eyes comunity igno mode on.
lvl part is now fine on way to lvl 100 BUT now it starting chaotic, we take pit it is easy to explain. lvl 30/60/100 u did the material failure but if u thinking aroud that corner why u not had same idea with loot, lvl 30 =1star equip lvl60=2star equip, lvl 100=2-3 stars equip. i never belive you not thought same by programming. why now the 3 stars "where are you?" problem - u created it.
storage to example is rly easy to fix, u need only 1 stashpart of that 6 for every season char and let the other 5 per character. stash1 of that 6, u use to change equip between diffrent season chars. but no, why, it is what it is, all chars 1 stash....
okback to pit. a step forwards in right direction. but i cant get the bigger portal feeling how in d3. i cant feel it nearly , i miss it, it was the we meet each other part in d3. now pit runs lvl 30/60/100 u have to do to push equip, 1st i thought fine it is logical. BUT! after 1st euip part upgrading (i did weapons 1st) i realized i have to play lvl 30 pit a lot times to push it all, lvl 30=1klick,1hit,all is dead.
it is starting next rly feeling braindead feeling and after maybe 10-20 runs i rly start sleeping by active playing. that is worldwide premier.no other game did it before to me. i cant accept that if u play pit lvl 100+ not dropping golden and blue materials too.
sorry me now but i rly have unfriendly asking the dev team u not saw it before let us play it? nobody in ptr? maybe u wll hire me for 1 year to fix the easy things? completely unacceptabel.
that game wll be rly good first time - if whole team read 2days only i forum. wll it happen?
helltide is now good maybe 2 bossshrines more per map diffrent boss?its good to play. pit too short&small&less variable endboss.... but fights now are better then before not good but better.
forgeing is a complete desaster with reroll cap, 4-7times in a row the same wrong stat in a row is not good programmed in my eyes - here is the simple solution. choose the stats u need in a list and roll only the 1 stat endless times for max it.
that game is destroying byself because it is typicaly example for "too complicate thinking" u can see result of it direct by playing.
there are very much easier problems but i dont get the money to solve em, they get it , they have to deliver. not we!
and best joke ever was forum bann "writeing in eng in a german forum but the german forum is english nature"
I just saw they gave sorc a 15-20% dam increase along a few other buffs but I really don't know if it will be enough. I really hope Blizzard or the people who actually matter watch this video and change things accordingly.
I came back in season 4 after the insane nerving during launch/season 1. Forget it... They will keep nerving Sorcerer. They only want you to play barb, So I now quit playing D4
I think every class should just have easy paths to damage reduction/dodge/shield. I would play sorc or rogue if they felt as beefy as barb, I think every ARPG struggles there.
I found a playstyle as a sorc player that kind of works. I play 1 season as sorc, 1 season as rogue and then take 2 seasons off.
Sorc Is my favorite class and I tend to rapidly loose interest in a game when the mage is a PoS. I just hope they fix the sorcerer and make it decent again... It's not nice, it's not good, every class should have at least one build that feels good and overpowered. Give us that.
Remove damage caps, make everything overpowered, that way no one cares if barb is doing 100 billion compared to a sorc's 25 billion, as long as the boss dies in a good amount of time it's good. They really need to take notes from Last Epoch on build freedom.
When they started to introduce caps, I thought it was a necessary move, but now I think its just a cheap way to keep build balance somewhat under control because they can't figure out the right way to fix the legendary nodes and key passisves -_-.
If you would actually like to see changes to the Sorc class, the only thing bungie listens to is your wallet. DO NOT buy the expansion. If enough people stop giving them money they will pull their heads out of their ass and start paying attention to feedback again.
D4 is pretty cursed for me. I'm a crusader main who can't play a crusader. I tried the other classes and sorc felt cool, really fast and I loved teleporting in and pulling all the mobs to me and blowing them up. I might just have to come to terms with enjoying a lower tier class that cant compete in the end game.
Now this is some serious content! I play Sorc exclusively and would love to see Sorc having some S tier builds as well. And maybe more options for the enchantments since some of them are just too strong (Fire bolt one) so you lose options. And I agree there should be some consistency in the passives for all classes wrt scaling damage.
I really hope season 5 isn't another basic ability build season... And I hope they make shred viable for endgame too!
I'm sooo looking forward to everyone playing flay barbs in season 5.
you can tell the devs don't play their own damn game to know better.. none of them know how to make a build or theory craft.. you can tell based on the shit changes and new gear.
Who’s the best sorc streamer that actually post tons of videos? Sorc has a rubber band issue with teleport if you choose the far camera on PS5 and you actually bounce off objects.
Fire bolt does more damage in one cast then 20 meteors fuck yah don’t even get me started with how unbelievably fucked fireball is
no reason to play d4 this season....it s more like season3....poe untill the expansion(many,many, friends/gamers are gonna do the same)
Blizzard nerfed flame shield because don’t like immortal while barbarians are immortals with out any shield lmao
I have played all but druid and sorc is my least favorite to play tbh. But that is probably due to feeling like your hitting demons with a wet pool noodle and not reflective of how the class plays. Its hard to tell
Sorc dmg requires layering vuln and cc before you do dmg
Thats so fucking true and thats the reason why I am stressing so much. Please Rob tell Blizzard if you are there that they have to fix my loveley favoutite class the Sorc. Please please please Rob do that and I love you forever 🙏 thats what i said since the preseason balancing patch sorc is shit echot season two big balls …
But the Builds from this guy are horrible, i sae a lot of good sorcerer build speeding 101 dungeons easy. But still Sorcerer is way to weak
As usual, undo the f*cking nerfs and all is right with the world, just rollem back damnit, jayzus!
On the ww dust barb could you make a build without the grandfather and crit damage I sadly can’t get the grandfather for the life of me😢
i love you but your positivity is annoying. blizzard isnt' fixing sorcs, please start being more negative like the rest of us.
Mekuna: Hold my Flame Shield!
Sorc is just so bad man.. Its fun when you dont pay attention to any other class.
Guess I just take another year long break an hope theyre better then
Love seeing you give Perra some love. He's hilarious. You guys are both great we appreciate yall.
Man i wanna Play This chain Build …:/ hopefully it gets some love before S5!!
03:30 YES!! A throw back to when I said you looked like Rick Astley. You gained a follower that day and my respect. I wasn't even trying to rickroll or anything. You legit reminded me of him. And you looked him up on stream and just kept on blasting after.
Brothers gotta support each other for sure 😂
give all the classes an extra amulet and ring slot except barb and rogue since they already have extra weapon slots. and even after that, sorc still needs an insane amount of buffs. sorc is pitiful right now
They need to nerf barbs.. then other classes will not look too weak :d those billions, trillions just doesn't make any sense.
bugs, doest count ahha. the problem is that every season there is bugs. so maybe is part of the game development ahha
HAHAHAHAHAHAH we love this reacts! wich class are you brother playing Rob ?
...only if you name you Barbarian "Sorc" will Sorc be the best class.
lets get it right for younger noobish diablo players it is sorce as in Sorce code say it slow sorce-code stop with this sorc crap
Only if they disable the Barb class. There is no way bungie will let any other class outperform barb. Welcome to Barbo 4.
Teleport is trash in d4 u can't tp threw walls the barbs can leap threw
Even sorcerer tier SSSSSSSS im still going to play barb no matter what hahhahaha
damn i wanna try sorcs next season since i am druid and barb this season 4🙆🏻♂️
Bro, how does this level of character balancing happen 😭
i hope so they have a good plan for expansion. if no poe2 around the corner gg.
Am 12. Juli fängt diablo 3 die neue season an🥳🥳🥳
Thx for making this vid rob
just wait they will nerf it some more ..the blizz way
Gushing wounds needs a cap it's completely busted
was having fun with hydra,inferno and incinerate
sorc are dead its sad how they buther char for no reason
i doupt it sorc will be last season 5 if its going like this way druid stands at the top
who tf need sorc? we r here for the barb arent we?