@@Mike-jk7do i don't even think that is true. They like throttle earnings, and will send u to another McDonald's while ur in the lot of a different McDonald's and it messes with peoples orders. There's no way this is maximum profit efficiency
98% of drivers make 8 to 12 an hour on a Good day...minus gas and wear n tear on car...most importantly...dealing with 100s of bad dangerous stupid drivers on the road🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕
@@hectorelmexican4014 Right this week so far 8 hours on their clock 4 hours actually working 85.00 but I declined all craziness 12 miles for 5 ...lol I wish I could send an emoji when they send dumb crap...like really would Mr DD take this order???
@@SoulforSale I fully agree in most cases, but for someone like me coming back from a long term disability nobody will give me a callback for an office job
@@FrankyGuyMan i started 100% platinum - got the exact same trash orders. All that AR% bs is just that. It's a mechanism designed to make weak minded people slave harder for less pay because some arbitrary metric goes up and delivers a dopamine hit.
@@FrankyGuyManI was diamond but I didn’t reach the 100 orders I’m online for 8 hrs I just get 2 or 3 orders my acceptance rate is 94% and the illegals get in and out the stores with orders and they rate is 34% I don’t understand how they do I ask several times and they don’t said nothing
im shocked your comment stayed up. every time i try to talk about the miguels my comment gets deleted. they are ruining my current job and my entire workplace despises them. earlier today i went to little caesars, dad wanted me to pick 1 up. theres 2 dashers inside! a fcknng jose cuts in line. just.... makes a weird sound to get the cashier's attention. "wooy!" what does that mean? he seriously thinks his phone app is so much more important. delivery apps are a cancer. they just flood restaurants but nobody gets paid a raise to compensate for this extra traffic. even though im texan i have to agree with california. banning uber is a good thing. also send them back we have enough uncilized americans already. dont need more uncivilized pacos
You must be in a small town I live by Olympia Washington and i dash 10 hours and make 350 a day and I only do the week from 10 am to 8 pm then take the weekend off I like door dash it’s worth it for me over here
Wow everything you said is EXACTLY what I've been thinking. I've been moving around experimenting with different markets hoping to find a spot to boost my income but this hustle feels played out everywhere
The algorithm is only going to allow you to make so much? Regardless, it's not work harder anymore or location only. They truly know how they program their algorithm
@@TheDecider2024 Unless your area is very busy your earnings are capped. You get a big payout and nothing comes to your phone for the next 30-40 minutes when you know orders are out there.
The Tier Program killed me. I used to receive 2-3 Catering offers per day, haven’t gotten one since Tier Program started and I’ve been with this company since 2018 - they’re happy to have migrants taking the $2-$4 orders, they don’t care and they especially don’t care about the Veteran drivers.
I wonder how the migrants can be profitable doing $2-4 orders, they still gotta pay GAS. With gas prices being so high, they can't be making any money on $2-4 orders.
@@carmanjun4859 I’m in Chicago and we have a lot of them doing delivery here - they’re using multiple accounts like their wives, husbands and other family members and they’re pooling all their money together. At least that’s what I’ve seen and from what they’ve told me. A lot of times you see 3-4 of them in one car as well all Doordashing together in one vehicle, not too sure how they work that but it’s happening 🤷🏽♂️
They have housing vouchers for rent, and they get snap benefits for like 300 a month, and they also get 1k a month cash. So this is supplemental income. If you notice they all got a line on hybrid cars too.
youre not alone dude its insane... I cant believe what its turned into. It was amazing, ive been doing it full time since april 2020. Now its just a nightmare idk if im going to make money or not anymore
@ yeah man, I gotta start thinkin bout an exit strategy. It’s too hard to sustain this full time anymore. Part time for a lil extra seems to be all it’s good for anymore
the single biggest problem is the base pay.. 2.00$ is not enough aT All. In 2015 when door dash was just getting started the base pay was 6.00$ It worked pretty well when base pay was 6.00$ all the other things you said are really spot on. but the base pay is the biggest problem.
@@MikeLockheart back when base pay was $6 they were stealing our tips and I still made much more money when they were stealing our tips! What I used to make in one day I now make in one week - DoorDash is OVER as far as I’m concerned
You are correct. As a customer, I canNOT understand why base pay can be $2. People deliver with cars, not bicycle. How on earth they expect anyone to deliver a $2 or $3 order? It's so ridiculous now with post-covid inflation. $2 today is like $1 before covid.
@carmanjun4859 The orders are getting delivered with $2 base pay, why would the gig app companies pay us $5? This is largely the fault of drivers willing to work for peanuts.
@@carmanjun4859 yes, before 2019, you could tip zero and I would still get 6.00$ for delivering you your food, which was low but still more than it cost for gas to drive the order... now I don't understand how door dash can get away with it.
@lafamilia6155 i am on gold. Not platinum yet. Going to see if it's better. Will be platinum by tomorrow. Hitting 20 orders a day yesterday, today and tomorrow.
I keep getting garbage offers like $11 for 18.5 miles to the middle of nowhere. Sorry, but I'm not driving 30 miles round trip for $11. And yeah I wait for hours at a time.
I literally got a new job yesterday! I quit because of everything I've mentioned. When I started in 2022 it paid bills orders were decent but now with fresh new immigrants (LA) with 4 different phones it's almost impossible to make enough just to exist, especially in major cities like LA. I even into debt because it happened quick. So f.u.c.k that it's time to say thanks for the experience but gotta go.
I feel you on that one. I was supposed to start my new job a week ago, but unfortunately we had inclement weather hurricane Milton down here in Florida screwed it for me so now hopefully I can start this Monday and start getting into the workforce. We’ll see what $20 an hour can do for me to get me out of debt since DoorDash has Landed me in it
@@bobg3221 I'm so sorry! Can't even imagine what you guys going through there.. I hope u are safe and taking care of yourself! I'm not sure how expensive is Florida but literally 20$ in LA is nothing I'm only staying here because I have free place to live for a year got very lucky. But as soon I'm done with my dept I'm getting out here. I just wanna stay away from major cities. Because rent is getting out of control, gas and all essentials are getting so expensive. Anyway I hope everything is going well with your new job! Wish you all luck. You're not alone 🫂
I've been doing it since COVID and I've seen A drastic slow down. Now, I'm only working on the weekends and barely making $100. I've started looking for something else to do.
The thing is, if I'm using my car and having to hustle from location to location, that comes at a cost in any other job. Except this. The things that normally come at a premium are just your working conditions as it pertains to food delivery apps. If at the end of the night, the hour per dollar ratio works out, that's one thing. But to accept those conditions only to find you're making what the lowest paid worker at a restaurant is getting at the end of the night, where they didn't have to go through half of what you did is hard to stomach. I just don't think this model can hold up. It's just broken.
DoorDash was at its peak around 2017-2021 them were the best years for me! Especially around Covid time! I was pulling of 300 a day in a 6-8 hour shift! Nothing but good orders, Large Orders.. hell I even got tips! After Covid DoorDash fell off hard.. it’s taking me a long ass time to hit my 100 and I get nothing but shit for orders… gotta cherry pick the hell outta orders just to get good ones! DoorDash really don’t care for us drivers getting the food, waiting for the food and bringing the customers the food… like shit 2 dollars is disrespectful but DoorDash is okay with allowing customers even pay that bs… and they wonder why I can’t maintain a high AR… I’m never going to pick up shit orders… I’m refuse to move for less than 7 bucks and I won’t move if the miles aren’t worth the pay! If DoorDash doesn’t start improving anytime soon Ima just delete the mf because this ain’t kool
What I'm noticing is the double or triple pick up and drop off offers on EBT with short distance trips while keeping you from being "active" a full hour. In between those you'll get one going 16 miles and once it's delivered your dash ends because you're in a dead zone. 🙄 I've only made $18,000 destroying my car and after dealing with bad customers who lie and complain, horrible drivers, employees with attitudes, restaurants that use cheap containers that leak out, all of the AR and tier system crap, low base pay with zero tips - I'm trying to get out of it. Plus, I owe taxes and don't know what that's going to be like having to owe money to Uncle Sam.
Great analysis. I am a former economics teacher. I recently retired and been doing Uber eats/grub hub full time for over three years (mostly because I want to say active). When I first started right after Covid …the market seemed to favor the driver. Gradually over the past three years it had turned in the opposite direction. Basically less deliveries and the ones we do…get paid less. Overall, it is not sustainable. As inflation increases, the payouts and deliveries decrease.
What frustrates me is that basic things are overlooked. Like why is base pay 1 set amount. It implies that all orders are the same, when that is far from true. They fail to take into account the biggest factor, which is mileage. How does DoorDash run the biggest food delivery app, and yet not smart enough to include the biggest factor in delivering items? It's mindblowing. If done right, customers would not be ordering from the Wendy's 10 miles from their house, when there is another 2 miles away. The drivers would drive less and make more.
The tier list is absolute trash. I work part time for Door Dash and there’s no way I can make 100 deliveries in a month. I struggle together 2 or 3 deliveries in one day before door dash cuts me off to “reschedule “ for a time I’m not able to dash. It’s a crock of s***.😡
This is a timeless classic when it comes to driver pay and vehicle wear and tear. In my time delivering I have never found the gig apps to do anything helpful for the driver. Pay is what matters. Pay us well and keep all the trinkets. Russ
It's simply doordash will never put a cap on how many dashers they hire for each market. Like many others,two markets I work used to be really good. In the last two months, I've noticed way more dashers in both areas and still seeing hiring ads from doordash in each market. Tony's concern is quick deliveries regardless if dashers are doing well or not. And of course lower tips or no tips (trash offers). In the end, doordash is thriving, but most drivers are not. I'm platinum, and mostly just get recycled trash. I actually do better with earn by time overall. Believe it or not. Be aware of how Tony pays you. Higher the tip,less the doordash contribution. I had a $14 delivery going 9 miles. 12 tip,2 doordash pay. For 9 miles, only 2 doordash pay. Everything has been set up to benefit the company and it's customers. Not the drivers. They knew most drivers would want to be platinum,so how many true platinum offers can go around?
I've noticed this last week, I started a shift around 10:30am stopped around 1 or 2, doing both Uber and door dash and literally got one order that whole shift worth $10 then received nothing from door dash in a hot zone during a prime time. Then Uber offered nothing but low ball orders😩
The Doordash app has too many errors. In-app navigation doesn't direct accurately to either restaurants or customers. Also, the "confirm pickup" page is often missing, meaning a ten minute support chat after you've delivered the order. You have to wait while the support person phones either the customer or the restaurant to confirm that the order was delivered. This extra time wasted makes a $6 order a 30 minute event. ☹️
I completed my first five DoorDash deliveries today, and the only reason I even did it was for the $50 bonus they offered. The experience was frustrating-they put me on a strict one-hour timer for deliveries, and after five orders, I only made $6 in tips. In total, I drove for over three hours and made about $30 in base pay, plus the $50 bonus, bringing my earnings to $80 for the day. But after burning through so much gas, it just wasn’t worth it. One order was just two iced teas, and the customer was 20 minutes away! On top of that, when you accept an order, you only see the pickup location-you have no idea if you’ll be driving north, south, east, or west until after you accept it. Definitely a thumbs down from me.
Also they violate you to death! If you are 10 minutes late they call that extreme lateness in a city that is a metro area 10 minutes is not extreme. I recently got kicked off a ramp had to come all the way around. Even though I explained it very well theÿ didn't remove the violation. I tried to call customer service ahead an couldn't get through. None of of that mattered. They have rules that contradict each other. We arenot treated like independent workers.
In my area Food delivery was still good last year, I used to get 2 orders for 18 dollars non stop every weekend on Uber eats. Now days theres too many drivers and I’ve notice a lot of those rich whitefolks I used to deliver too Go pick up their own food from the restaurants. I just hustle other apps on my cargo van and still make good money.
Yes on some of that she said but if door dash would raise there minimum dash rate from $2 and $2.50 to maybe $3 or $4 starting plus tip we could all make a little bit of money. Door dash gets around $6.50 and up for every order yet they only offer us $2.50 and they keep $4 and we do all the work. And the freedom they say we have to choose is a lie cause if you choose good one's and decline bad one's you get down graded and even kicked off not right.
Well said…and….totally correct. For me, this a temporary side hustle. When I achieve my goal I’ll be quitting….for all the reasons stated in this video. It just doesn’t pay enough to cover depreciation on the car, gas, and pay a decent wage. Plus, as stated, the waiting. Folks just don’t have money today, etc.
You do understand that if you do nothing you get nothing! This is a Business with customers. They give you the choice to succeed or fail by your own decisions... For every one person that decline, there is fifteen that except! You not hurting their business, you're only hurting yourself!
One more thing. There's also a lot of desperate drivers on the doordash app that are taking each and every order. Which makes it even more worse for quality drivers.
One thing I heard about DoorDash that is absolutely 100% accurate is that while you do still interact with restaurant employees, for the most part, there’s a lot of time that you just spend in your car by yourself and it is lonely and it’s not the same as working a regular 9 to 5 W-2 job where you’re working with multiple people even if it’s only one other person. There is a mental toll that comes with the job which revolves around loneliness, which I don’t really think is discussed enough when it comes to these gig economy, delivery driver applications.
I havent dashed in a year and a half. Noticed my area started going downhill with a quickness beginning of 2023. I just opened the app today for the lulz. My area orders were so bad my AR is at 18% i have been online now in dash now for the past hour and i havent gotten a single order in that time. I likely was going to decline regardless but not the point.
So if so many people are quitting, will they stop rejecting new hires because they lack a perfectly clean driving record?? I have 2 traffic violations that would probably disqualify…if everyone’s quitting would they ease up and hire me?
I think your right, people must be noticing the wear and tear on their cars and wondering if travailing long distant runs are worth it and are they dropping their high AR ratings as fast as most of us by declining offers . AR rating is a joke. As much I decline offers I should be in the teens or single digits but I;m still in the twenty percent range. Their AI system is just learning what each person will be willing to do and what they wont do.
Im a part time Platinum Dasher, occasionally my AR drops to 65% due seeing bad orders (4-7 in a row in a couple sets). But that being said, opportunities have changed in my area, and the payouts are less than they were... but I have a theory. Even among the platinum dashers, if you are over 80% there is opportunity for the greater pay orders...but customers are not spending and tipping as much as they used to. I would say that make this part of your stream of income, but not the only one.
It's junk...I've been saying that for a few years now.... outside of major metro areas, it's a complete loss. You forgot to mention the fast food places that purposely ignore, or put off, delivery drivers and food app orders. Door dash really expects the driver to just wait and wait for a $5 job
us employees ignore u for a reason...... always cutting in line. as if your push notification is a 911 emergency. get back ur car idc about ur $2 order
There "QUITTING" DD for constant Low Ball Offers. Drivers are putting more miles on there vehicles than money in there pockets. DD needs to bump up there driver pay or prepare themselves to go out of business. Without drivers they don't make money.
I started doing DD a few days ago just to see how it is. I don’t really need DD because I make way more money going to casinos and using my freeplay. It’s a longer drive but well worth it. I’m not suggesting that all people gamble but in my case I have self control and discipline to know when to walk away and it’s been working for me. FYI My You Tube channel doesn’t make me money.. I’m not monetized. DD is just like most other greedy companies that say they care for their drivers but it’s all a bunch of BS sweet talk.
I'm a Dasher, and I'm Platinum. I'm in an average sized city, if that makes sense. Me being Platinum definitely helps me. I make around $35 an hour plus tips. Yes, I have tasks that aren't great, but around 80% of tasks are good. I never worry about tips. I look at the amount, mileage, and keep things very basic. I don't cherry pick, it wastes time to me. I don't complain about Doordash. If i wanna work, I work. If not, I won't. I focus on the benefits. I access my pay the same day. I have superior flexibility with my schedule. I also find being accommodating to customers and polite gets things going a lot smoother daily. Can't please all customers, though.
Straight cappin. There's absolutely no way your making $35 before tips. Doordash $2 base pay means you'd have to take 17.5 deliveries an hour to make that much money. Completing a delivery every 3 and a half minutes. Completely impossible. If you're gonna lie, at least make it someone believable.
Doordash is the most ungrateful company on the planet and I sincerely hope they go under and shut down! Not to mention having to put up with some of the low life people that work at most of the restaurants! In smaller towns and cities the restaurants make Dashers wait longer periods of time before preparing or even releasing the food because they want their friends or family members to get more Dashes! DON'T WORK FOR DOORDASH!
We need to boycott for a day. Nobody log on for a day. When you break down the amount of maintenance for your vehicle and gas, your better off working at McDonald’s
This lady is right - I figured out a while back that work is not good for your mental health - so just do creative stuff that makes you happy and you'll be fine.
I think the problem is that everybody has this endless obsession with earning a certain amount per hour. It’s much easier to make money when you don’t add a time limit to it. There is plenty of money out there. Instead of going out to doordash, go out to listen to music in your car.
You are the absolute SMARTEST delivery driver, .... You "GET IT" that the long term EXPENSE on you, YOUR VEHICLE, and stress from NOT making enough dough, is NOT worth your time !!!! But, those delivery companies are in it for THE MONEY IT MAKES "THEM" ..... and the few peanuts left over, well, that goes to the drivers that stay STUCK in a LOSING Hampster wheel, ..... never getting off it ....
Also everytime I took an offer for $2.50 - $4.00 . A $18.50 offer will soon come behind it and more big offers. Door dash knows more about you than you do.
They need to pay you by the hour and make you fill out a schedule each week that tells what you're available to work. And then when the time you hit the time clock it needs to pay you whether you're sitting or delivering until the time you clock out and I don't mean some $11 an hour I mean they need to pay about $18 an hour in my market if they did that I would be willing to drive wherever they wanted me to. As long as it was not over 10 miles food delivery and as long as they did not send me to the hood
No customers aren't tipping because most customers are just very cheap. Customers paid the driver $7 to travel over 10 mi right? Then, when you drive those 10 miles to that customer's house that paid you $7, they have two to five cars in their driveway. And Doordash is offering customers huge discounts, that's why customers aren't tipping. Those factors play a huge role in why we, as drivers, aren't making any real money with DoorDash.
I don’t blame the customers. Not all customers are aware that after they pay service fee and delivery fee that the driver earns $2 of those fees. No driver should accept any offer and then complain about no tip. Decline. The truth is Door Dash is in business to make money and getting orders delivered. They don’t force anyone to take any orders and they don’t care because they know they will always have enough drivers that will accept undesirable offers. 😢
Had an order from Mcdonalds yesterday, 2.50 payout 12 miles away no tip. Ask me if I took it. No need, I did not take it. I literally switched to Walmart Spark and if I wasn't so old I could make 200 to 300 if I could work open to close maybe more. Door dash completely dropped in popularity in my area like dropping a stone out of your hand. Blink and you may have one order for 2.50 going a hundred miles.
I can make $200+ a day 8 hour shift. You have to experiment a lot in several different areas. After 600 deliveries. I learn to stay in the hot-spots, city wise. Rich areas filled with condos. Yes, it sucks to go up and down elevators but people have disposable income when they are paying $3K a month in these areas. During the rush hours, I stay away from delivering food and do groceries instead. Tips are good depending again, which area. It's all about strategy. It took me 6 months to get my drift. Once I did. My tips are on average 45% versus the 15-20% I was getting. Your attitude is going to get you more tips, I leaned that also. It's not about complaining about the job, its how you handle it. Strategy and execution. I can make 1K a week 40+ hours. Not even lying.
Love this video! Mentioned the toll on your body! I broke 4 ribs the beginning on this past november. Dash is a side job. I am lucky to still have a full time job! Which pays very well for me! But, because of my injury dashing. Ive only been able to work very part time. Due to healing. Pain. Im making an effort! The do apparently cover injury through Blue Star Claims! Their insurance carrier for if you get hurt while dashing! If you total your vehicle while dashing? Make sure your insurance has a clause in it stating side jobs such as dash. Your insurance will not cover your vehicle if its not in there! I had full coverage on my vehicle with my insurance! Should mean no matter what! Iast winter i totaled my vehicle. Due to winter conditions. doordash or my former insurance company didnt do shit! Luckilly my vehicle was paid off. But, got nothing for getting another vehicle! Also, take out taxes every month! Dashing is not free money! Set aside a maintenance fund with your earnings. Bottom line? Not worth it!!!
I love my car, we are friends, mutual respect. This job WAS great at one time, but the longer I worked the less I made... When I started I made more money then needed, one year later I had to get another job...is it worth it? No.
How many drivers know the actual cost of running their vehicle? How many “full time” dashers have looked up the median household income in their market? There are factors that equal probable success and some that equal possible failure. Know your operating cost and know your market. DoorDash just might not be right for you where you live.
I have to do this garbage because of emergency. I literally don't touch any of these apps unless it's a dire situation like right now. I understand wanting to work on your own and being independent but the economy is not the that right now especially these crap apps.
Tried DD today for the first time on my ebike. Got a delivery after 30 min (only $4-5), and then nothing for the next 3 hours straight. I'll try again tomorrow during the day but if it's like my first night I'm done with DD
Doordash needs to be required by law to guarantee minimum wage. And since you're using your car in the Southeast they should be guaranteed at least $18 an hour whether you're sitting or driving. Or they need to guarantee at least $200 for an 8-hour shift
Door dash is a joke, I only did maybe 20 orders, didn’t take me long to figure it’s not worth the wear and tear on your vehicle. Just get a regular job
4:21 Doordash and customer are sucks lately. They are not what it use to be. I dont like those dtack order so they can pay you just one badic pay for 2. I been decline allday than accepting. My rate went down from 85 to 40 now 😅😅😅 Do I care? Not really. I am gonna focus on spark driver app more than DD. I make lot more with spark driver.
Decline decline decline. Do offers that make sense. DD will figure it out if their orders are not getting delivered.
They don't care about drivers. All they care about is how much profit they can get
Corporate greed exists
Facts.
It's strange because it'll be their downfall at the end.
@@Mike-jk7do i don't even think that is true. They like throttle earnings, and will send u to another McDonald's while ur in the lot of a different McDonald's and it messes with peoples orders. There's no way this is maximum profit efficiency
98% of drivers make 8 to 12 an hour on a Good day...minus gas and wear n tear on car...most importantly...dealing with 100s of bad dangerous stupid drivers on the road🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕
@@hectorelmexican4014 Right this week so far 8 hours on their clock 4 hours actually working 85.00 but I declined all craziness 12 miles for 5 ...lol I wish I could send an emoji when they send dumb crap...like really would Mr DD take this order???
The bad drivers it's something nobody talks about
They could always go get a j-o-b
@@SoulforSale I fully agree in most cases, but for someone like me coming back from a long term disability nobody will give me a callback for an office job
@@urdaty me either.
Working for door dash is like delivering food for free.
Do not work for doordash unless you hate your vehicle and no longer want one.
If it aint $2 per mile, I'm going to deny it no matter what.
I quit as soon as they started paying extremely low, with high miles. I am not a dumb fool working to lose money.
Illegals with fresh accounts, cheap ass customers, little to no pay - all of this is a total waste of time.
Not only that but if you do not hit 70% or higher you're pretty much done you cannot do anything
@@FrankyGuyMan i started 100% platinum - got the exact same trash orders. All that AR% bs is just that. It's a mechanism designed to make weak minded people slave harder for less pay because some arbitrary metric goes up and delivers a dopamine hit.
@@FrankyGuyManI was diamond but I didn’t reach the 100 orders I’m online for 8 hrs I just get 2 or 3 orders my acceptance rate is 94% and the illegals get in and out the stores with orders and they rate is 34% I don’t understand how they do I ask several times and they don’t said nothing
im shocked your comment stayed up. every time i try to talk about the miguels my comment gets deleted. they are ruining my current job and my entire workplace despises them. earlier today i went to little caesars, dad wanted me to pick 1 up. theres 2 dashers inside! a fcknng jose cuts in line. just.... makes a weird sound to get the cashier's attention. "wooy!" what does that mean? he seriously thinks his phone app is so much more important. delivery apps are a cancer. they just flood restaurants but nobody gets paid a raise to compensate for this extra traffic. even though im texan i have to agree with california. banning uber is a good thing. also send them back we have enough uncilized americans already. dont need more uncivilized pacos
It's not illegal, it's the business
Door dash stink. I work between 14-16 hours to make 200$ I wouldn’t recommend anybody to do DoorDash
Facts
What do you recommend people use ?
You must be in a small town I live by Olympia Washington and i dash 10 hours and make 350 a day and I only do the week from 10 am to 8 pm then take the weekend off I like door dash it’s worth it for me over here
@@FrancisOladapo-fm3gj 😆
@@tysonthrowI live in Olympia Washington too, what area are you dashing because recently it’s been terrible for me, and I’m also a platinum dasher?
Wow everything you said is EXACTLY what I've been thinking. I've been moving around experimenting with different markets hoping to find a spot to boost my income but this hustle feels played out everywhere
It's done and berried.
The algorithm is only going to allow you to make so much? Regardless, it's not work harder anymore or location only. They truly know how they program their algorithm
@@TheDecider2024 Unless your area is very busy your earnings are capped. You get a big payout and nothing comes to your phone for the next 30-40 minutes when you know orders are out there.
@@TheDecider2024Seems like there is a cap on how much you can make daily, dash sharing perhaps
The Tier Program killed me. I used to receive 2-3 Catering offers per day, haven’t gotten one since Tier Program started and I’ve been with this company since 2018 - they’re happy to have migrants taking the $2-$4 orders, they don’t care and they especially don’t care about the Veteran drivers.
I wonder how the migrants can be profitable doing $2-4 orders, they still gotta pay GAS. With gas prices being so high, they can't be making any money on $2-4 orders.
@@carmanjun4859 I’m in Chicago and we have a lot of them doing delivery here - they’re using multiple accounts like their wives, husbands and other family members and they’re pooling all their money together. At least that’s what I’ve seen and from what they’ve told me. A lot of times you see 3-4 of them in one car as well all Doordashing together in one vehicle, not too sure how they work that but it’s happening 🤷🏽♂️
They have housing vouchers for rent, and they get snap benefits for like 300 a month, and they also get 1k a month cash. So this is supplemental income. If you notice they all got a line on hybrid cars too.
youre not alone dude its insane... I cant believe what its turned into. It was amazing, ive been doing it full time since april 2020. Now its just a nightmare idk if im going to make money or not anymore
@ yeah man, I gotta start thinkin bout an exit strategy. It’s too hard to sustain this full time anymore. Part time for a lil extra seems to be all it’s good for anymore
the single biggest problem is the base pay.. 2.00$ is not enough aT All. In 2015 when door dash was just getting started the base pay was 6.00$ It worked pretty well when base pay was 6.00$ all the other things you said are really spot on. but the base pay is the biggest problem.
@@MikeLockheart back when base pay was $6 they were stealing our tips and I still made much more money when they were stealing our tips! What I used to make in one day I now make in one week - DoorDash is OVER as far as I’m concerned
You are correct. As a customer, I canNOT understand why base pay can be $2. People deliver with cars, not bicycle. How on earth they expect anyone to deliver a $2 or $3 order? It's so ridiculous now with post-covid inflation. $2 today is like $1 before covid.
@carmanjun4859 The orders are getting delivered with $2 base pay, why would the gig app companies pay us $5? This is largely the fault of drivers willing to work for peanuts.
@@carmanjun4859 yes, before 2019, you could tip zero and I would still get 6.00$ for delivering you your food, which was low but still more than it cost for gas to drive the order... now I don't understand how door dash can get away with it.
Worked 15 hours yesterday. Made $100. But.... that cost me a full tank of gas, which cost me $50 to fill up. So..... $50 for 15 hours?!?!? What a joke
15 hrs for 100 dollars? where the hell you live lol
@@lafamilia6155 houston tx
@lafamilia6155 im at $400 for the week. At 40 hours dashing and 65 hours active. That's $10 an hour.
You can’t be serious? $100 for 15 hours?
@lafamilia6155 i am on gold. Not platinum yet. Going to see if it's better. Will be platinum by tomorrow. Hitting 20 orders a day yesterday, today and tomorrow.
People should take doordash to court!
I keep getting garbage offers like $11 for 18.5 miles to the middle of nowhere. Sorry, but I'm not driving 30 miles round trip for $11. And yeah I wait for hours at a time.
I hear you, it takes me 14hrs on Platnium to make $220 in a robust area daily
@@jayb462 lol I can be online for 114 hours a week and only male that much
I literally got a new job yesterday! I quit because of everything I've mentioned. When I started in 2022 it paid bills orders were decent but now with fresh new immigrants (LA) with 4 different phones it's almost impossible to make enough just to exist, especially in major cities like LA. I even into debt because it happened quick. So f.u.c.k that it's time to say thanks for the experience but gotta go.
I feel you on that one. I was supposed to start my new job a week ago, but unfortunately we had inclement weather hurricane Milton down here in Florida screwed it for me so now hopefully I can start this Monday and start getting into the workforce. We’ll see what $20 an hour can do for me to get me out of debt since DoorDash has Landed me in it
@@bobg3221 I'm so sorry! Can't even imagine what you guys going through there..
I hope u are safe and taking care of yourself!
I'm not sure how expensive is Florida but literally 20$ in LA is nothing I'm only staying here because I have free place to live for a year got very lucky. But as soon I'm done with my dept I'm getting out here. I just wanna stay away from major cities. Because rent is getting out of control, gas and all essentials are getting so expensive. Anyway I hope everything is going well with your new job! Wish you all luck. You're not alone 🫂
I've been doing it since COVID and I've seen A drastic slow down. Now, I'm only working on the weekends and barely making $100. I've started looking for something else to do.
I been dashing since 2019 and it's now trash.. as a car mechanic it's just not worth the wear and tear on the car
The thing is, if I'm using my car and having to hustle from location to location, that comes at a cost in any other job. Except this. The things that normally come at a premium are just your working conditions as it pertains to food delivery apps. If at the end of the night, the hour per dollar ratio works out, that's one thing. But to accept those conditions only to find you're making what the lowest paid worker at a restaurant is getting at the end of the night, where they didn't have to go through half of what you did is hard to stomach. I just don't think this model can hold up. It's just broken.
The costs still exist people not standing on business. They accepting every order for $2-$3
DoorDash was at its peak around 2017-2021 them were the best years for me! Especially around Covid time! I was pulling of 300 a day in a 6-8 hour shift! Nothing but good orders, Large Orders.. hell I even got tips! After Covid DoorDash fell off hard.. it’s taking me a long ass time to hit my 100 and I get nothing but shit for orders… gotta cherry pick the hell outta orders just to get good ones! DoorDash really don’t care for us drivers getting the food, waiting for the food and bringing the customers the food… like shit 2 dollars is disrespectful but DoorDash is okay with allowing customers even pay that bs… and they wonder why I can’t maintain a high AR… I’m never going to pick up shit orders… I’m refuse to move for less than 7 bucks and I won’t move if the miles aren’t worth the pay! If DoorDash doesn’t start improving anytime soon Ima just delete the mf because this ain’t kool
You are just like me, 7 dollars is my limit. Anything under isn’t worth my gas, and I’m in a Lexus….. gas ain’t cheap
What happens when your rating is high but like I'm at 85% needs Improvement that won't seem to budge it actually went lower faster than it raises
Yesss! 2019-2020 when I started DD was lit!
What I'm noticing is the double or triple pick up and drop off offers on EBT with short distance trips while keeping you from being "active" a full hour. In between those you'll get one going 16 miles and once it's delivered your dash ends because you're in a dead zone. 🙄
I've only made $18,000 destroying my car and after dealing with bad customers who lie and complain, horrible drivers, employees with attitudes, restaurants that use cheap containers that leak out,
all of the AR and tier system crap, low base pay with zero tips - I'm trying to get out of it. Plus, I owe taxes and don't know what that's going to be like having to owe money to Uncle Sam.
these youtubers never explain how the taxes thing works.
Great analysis. I am a former economics teacher. I recently retired and been doing Uber eats/grub hub full time for over three years (mostly because I want to say active). When I first started right after Covid …the market seemed to favor the driver. Gradually over the past three years it had turned in the opposite direction. Basically less deliveries and the ones we do…get paid less. Overall, it is not sustainable. As inflation increases, the payouts and deliveries decrease.
The new migrants take those low ball offers as they are subsidized by the state.
What frustrates me is that basic things are overlooked. Like why is base pay 1 set amount. It implies that all orders are the same, when that is far from true. They fail to take into account the biggest factor, which is mileage. How does DoorDash run the biggest food delivery app, and yet not smart enough to include the biggest factor in delivering items? It's mindblowing. If done right, customers would not be ordering from the Wendy's 10 miles from their house, when there is another 2 miles away. The drivers would drive less and make more.
I think they do know and account for it but they just pocket the money
The tier list is absolute trash. I work part time for Door Dash and there’s no way I can make 100 deliveries in a month. I struggle together 2 or 3 deliveries in one day before door dash cuts me off to “reschedule “ for a time I’m not able to dash. It’s a crock of s***.😡
You are right! Stay tuned for a great movement that is about to happen.
This is a timeless classic when it comes to driver pay and vehicle wear and tear. In my time delivering I have never found the gig apps to do anything helpful for the driver. Pay is what matters. Pay us well and keep all the trinkets. Russ
It's simply doordash will never put a cap on how many dashers they hire for each market. Like many others,two markets I work used to be really good. In the last two months, I've noticed way more dashers in both areas and still seeing hiring ads from doordash in each market. Tony's concern is quick deliveries regardless if dashers are doing well or not. And of course lower tips or no tips (trash offers).
In the end, doordash is thriving, but most drivers are not. I'm platinum, and mostly just get recycled trash. I actually do better with earn by time overall. Believe it or not.
Be aware of how Tony pays you. Higher the tip,less the doordash contribution. I had a $14 delivery going 9 miles. 12 tip,2 doordash pay. For 9 miles, only 2 doordash pay. Everything has been set up to benefit the company and it's customers. Not the drivers. They knew most drivers would want to be platinum,so how many true platinum offers can go around?
You described it perfectly. It’s very bad for your mental health. Not worth the wear and tear on your car running around town for a few dollars.
I've noticed this last week, I started a shift around 10:30am stopped around 1 or 2, doing both Uber and door dash and literally got one order that whole shift worth $10 then received nothing from door dash in a hot zone during a prime time. Then Uber offered nothing but low ball orders😩
The Doordash app has too many errors. In-app navigation doesn't direct accurately to either restaurants or customers. Also, the "confirm pickup" page is often missing, meaning a ten minute support chat after you've delivered the order. You have to wait while the support person phones either the customer or the restaurant to confirm that the order was delivered. This extra time wasted makes a $6 order a 30 minute event. ☹️
I completed my first five DoorDash deliveries today, and the only reason I even did it was for the $50 bonus they offered. The experience was frustrating-they put me on a strict one-hour timer for deliveries, and after five orders, I only made $6 in tips.
In total, I drove for over three hours and made about $30 in base pay, plus the $50 bonus, bringing my earnings to $80 for the day. But after burning through so much gas, it just wasn’t worth it. One order was just two iced teas, and the customer was 20 minutes away!
On top of that, when you accept an order, you only see the pickup location-you have no idea if you’ll be driving north, south, east, or west until after you accept it. Definitely a thumbs down from me.
Also they violate you to death! If you are 10 minutes late they call that extreme lateness in a city that is a metro area 10 minutes is not extreme. I recently got kicked off a ramp had to come all the way around. Even though I explained it very well theÿ didn't remove the violation. I tried to call customer service ahead an couldn't get through. None of of that mattered. They have rules that contradict each other. We arenot treated like independent workers.
I'm in columbus ohio and most orders are 4$ or under 10.... I can't make any money... doordash is paying less than they did 6 years ago
Same
I would also like to add that DoorDash should charge a minimum delivery fee such as $10 with no tip to be included.
Thank you for this video. Its extremely helpful.
In my area Food delivery was still good last year, I used to get 2 orders for 18 dollars non stop every weekend on Uber eats. Now days theres too many drivers and I’ve notice a lot of those rich whitefolks I used to deliver too Go pick up their own food from the restaurants. I just hustle other apps on my cargo van and still make good money.
Yes on some of that she said but if door dash would raise there minimum dash rate from $2 and $2.50 to maybe $3 or $4 starting plus tip we could all make a little bit of money. Door dash gets around $6.50 and up for every order yet they only offer us $2.50 and they keep $4 and we do all the work. And the freedom they say we have to choose is a lie cause if you choose good one's and decline bad one's you get down graded and even kicked off not right.
Well said…and….totally correct. For me, this a temporary side hustle. When I achieve my goal I’ll be quitting….for all the reasons stated in this video. It just doesn’t pay enough to cover depreciation on the car, gas, and pay a decent wage. Plus, as stated, the waiting. Folks just don’t have money today, etc.
My AR is 1%. They send me nothing but trash.
Hope you learned that way before i did
@@tyharris9994 i was at 0% for 5 days
You do understand that if you do nothing you get nothing! This is a Business with customers. They give you the choice to succeed or fail by your own decisions... For every one person that decline, there is fifteen that except! You not hurting their business, you're only hurting yourself!
@@arthursmith5409 simp! Are you a paid shill or just extra stupid?
@@arthursmith5409 also, English. Learn it.
Just stopped doing doordash a week ago, and it's not worth it now a days.
One more thing. There's also a lot of desperate drivers on the doordash app that are taking each and every order. Which makes it even more worse for quality drivers.
One thing I heard about DoorDash that is absolutely 100% accurate is that while you do still interact with restaurant employees, for the most part, there’s a lot of time that you just spend in your car by yourself and it is lonely and it’s not the same as working a regular 9 to 5 W-2 job where you’re working with multiple people even if it’s only one other person. There is a mental toll that comes with the job which revolves around loneliness, which I don’t really think is discussed enough when it comes to these gig economy, delivery driver applications.
Most dashers could not make it to work by 9am
@@SoulforSale 😂
I like being alone. Doing an 8-5 job always felt like prison. I do 6-8 hrs slinging sacks of slop driving and I come home relaxed.
Personally enjoyed not dealing with drama filled co workers, snitching because you came back from lunch 5 minutes late😂
you are right, 2 dollars base pay, is very low and no tip customer, dasher need pay anything whit they self.
I havent dashed in a year and a half. Noticed my area started going downhill with a quickness beginning of 2023. I just opened the app today for the lulz. My area orders were so bad my AR is at 18% i have been online now in dash now for the past hour and i havent gotten a single order in that time. I likely was going to decline regardless but not the point.
The gig apps are definitely turning into trash and they make our worth feel like Pennies
May be time to go back to that 9-5
I prefer 6-2
So if so many people are quitting, will they stop rejecting new hires because they lack a perfectly clean driving record?? I have 2 traffic violations that would probably disqualify…if everyone’s quitting would they ease up and hire me?
I think your right, people must be noticing the wear and tear on their cars and wondering if travailing long distant runs are worth it and are they dropping their high AR ratings as fast as most of us by declining offers . AR rating is a joke. As much I decline offers I should be in the teens or single digits but I;m still in the twenty percent range. Their AI system is just learning what each person will be willing to do and what they wont do.
Im a part time Platinum Dasher, occasionally my AR drops to 65% due seeing bad orders (4-7 in a row in a couple sets). But that being said, opportunities have changed in my area, and the payouts are less than they were... but I have a theory. Even among the platinum dashers, if you are over 80% there is opportunity for the greater pay orders...but customers are not spending and tipping as much as they used to. I would say that make this part of your stream of income, but not the only one.
It's junk...I've been saying that for a few years now.... outside of major metro areas, it's a complete loss. You forgot to mention the fast food places that purposely ignore, or put off, delivery drivers and food app orders. Door dash really expects the driver to just wait and wait for a $5 job
us employees ignore u for a reason...... always cutting in line. as if your push notification is a 911 emergency. get back ur car idc about ur $2 order
There "QUITTING" DD for constant Low Ball Offers. Drivers are putting more miles on there vehicles than money in there pockets. DD needs to bump up there driver pay or prepare themselves to go out of business. Without drivers they don't make money.
I started doing DD a few days ago just to see how it is. I don’t really need DD because I make way more money going to casinos and using my freeplay. It’s a longer drive but well worth it. I’m not suggesting that all people gamble but in my case I have self control and discipline to know when to walk away and it’s been working for me. FYI My You Tube channel doesn’t make me money.. I’m not monetized. DD is just like most other greedy companies that say they care for their drivers but it’s all a bunch of BS sweet talk.
I'm a Dasher, and I'm Platinum. I'm in an average sized city, if that makes sense. Me being Platinum definitely helps me.
I make around $35 an hour plus tips. Yes, I have tasks that aren't great, but around 80% of tasks are good. I never worry about tips. I look at the amount, mileage, and keep things very basic. I don't cherry pick, it wastes time to me. I don't complain about Doordash. If i wanna work, I work. If not, I won't. I focus on the benefits. I access my pay the same day. I have superior flexibility with my schedule. I also find being accommodating to customers and polite gets things going a lot smoother daily. Can't please all customers, though.
Straight cappin. There's absolutely no way your making $35 before tips. Doordash $2 base pay means you'd have to take 17.5 deliveries an hour to make that much money. Completing a delivery every 3 and a half minutes. Completely impossible. If you're gonna lie, at least make it someone believable.
@@justinrodgers1485Yea..I'm Platnium in a very robust area in the North East..Most I make is $230 in 14 hrs
@@justinrodgers1485I agree he's makin shit up. I made 35 an hour maybe 5-6X in 500 hours of dashing before I quit.
Doordash is the most ungrateful company on the planet and I sincerely hope they go under and shut down! Not to mention having to put up with some of the low life people that work at most of the restaurants! In smaller towns and cities the restaurants make Dashers wait longer periods of time before preparing or even releasing the food because they want their friends or family members to get more Dashes! DON'T WORK FOR DOORDASH!
We need to boycott for a day. Nobody log on for a day. When you break down the amount of maintenance for your vehicle and gas, your better off working at McDonald’s
In my market there's constantly new drivers. Waiting for orders means too many people.
This lady is right - I figured out a while back that work is not good for your mental health - so just do creative stuff that makes you happy and you'll be fine.
Its for emergency purposes only
I think the problem is that everybody has this endless obsession with earning a certain amount per hour. It’s much easier to make money when you don’t add a time limit to it. There is plenty of money out there. Instead of going out to doordash, go out to listen to music in your car.
I am planning to quit DD this year and it's for all the reasons you've named. It's just not worth it anymore.
I'm my platinum Dasher, been for a few monthe.the Orders are crap
My AR is 9 percent and I made $278 today. AR rate and platinum crap does not mean anything. I am in Phoenix AZ.
@mk696 it is but in my area you're not gonna be able to dash if you're not platinum
It's tons of wear and tear on a vehicle but really none of these places are even close to paying their employees sufficiently.
Looting tip from customers never paid to driver ..always keep in their pocket. NEVER SEEN SLY DOORDASH COMPANY IN TRH WORLD.
It is 100% DoorDash's problem to solve the situation with tips and fees that work with the company, restaurants, drivers, and customers
You are the absolute SMARTEST delivery driver, .... You "GET IT" that the long term EXPENSE on you, YOUR VEHICLE, and stress from NOT making enough dough, is NOT worth your time !!!! But, those delivery companies are in it for THE MONEY IT MAKES "THEM" ..... and the few peanuts left over, well, that goes to the drivers that stay STUCK in a LOSING Hampster wheel, ..... never getting off it ....
Also everytime I took an offer for $2.50 - $4.00 . A $18.50 offer will soon come behind it and more big offers. Door dash knows more about you than you do.
I been doing Spark for Walmart and haven’t went back to DD
They need to pay you by the hour and make you fill out a schedule each week that tells what you're available to work. And then when the time you hit the time clock it needs to pay you whether you're sitting or delivering until the time you clock out and I don't mean some $11 an hour I mean they need to pay about $18 an hour in my market if they did that I would be willing to drive wherever they wanted me to. As long as it was not over 10 miles food delivery and as long as they did not send me to the hood
Here in Australia it's booming. On door dash I'm not driving long distances and I'm earning around $30-$32 an hour.
No customers aren't tipping because most customers are just very cheap. Customers paid the driver $7 to travel over 10 mi right? Then, when you drive those 10 miles to that customer's house that paid you $7, they have two to five cars in their driveway. And Doordash is offering customers huge discounts, that's why customers aren't tipping. Those factors play a huge role in why we, as drivers, aren't making any real money with DoorDash.
I don’t blame the customers. Not all customers are aware that after they pay service fee and delivery fee that the driver earns $2 of those fees. No driver should accept any offer and then complain about no tip. Decline. The truth is Door Dash is in business to make money and getting orders delivered. They don’t force anyone to take any orders and they don’t care because they know they will always have enough drivers that will accept undesirable offers. 😢
You told absolutely, No Lies!!😢😰🤬...Not worth It!!!
I quit over a year ago and it still sounds like shit lol
I got hit and it totaled my car between the nasty attitudes of the customers the non existent customer “support” it wasn’t worth it
Which food delivery app would you recommend
Had an order from Mcdonalds yesterday, 2.50 payout 12 miles away no tip. Ask me if I took it. No need, I did not take it. I literally switched to Walmart Spark and if I wasn't so old I could make 200 to 300 if I could work open to close maybe more. Door dash completely dropped in popularity in my area like dropping a stone out of your hand. Blink and you may have one order for 2.50 going a hundred miles.
I rely on my vehicle too much and cannot afford to fix it.
I gone over to by the hour. The base pay with no promos is 15. With tips I makes 21-24 hr.
A 2 dollar per order promo equals 4 dollars an hour.
I can make $200+ a day 8 hour shift. You have to experiment a lot in several different areas. After 600 deliveries. I learn to stay in the hot-spots, city wise. Rich areas filled with condos. Yes, it sucks to go up and down elevators but people have disposable income when they are paying $3K a month in these areas. During the rush hours, I stay away from delivering food and do groceries instead. Tips are good depending again, which area. It's all about strategy. It took me 6 months to get my drift. Once I did. My tips are on average 45% versus the 15-20% I was getting. Your attitude is going to get you more tips, I leaned that also. It's not about complaining about the job, its how you handle it. Strategy and execution. I can make 1K a week 40+ hours. Not even lying.
Love this video! Mentioned the toll on your body! I broke 4 ribs the beginning on this past november. Dash is a side job. I am lucky to still have a full time job! Which pays very well for me! But, because of my injury dashing. Ive only been able to work very part time. Due to healing. Pain. Im making an effort! The do apparently cover injury through Blue Star Claims! Their insurance carrier for if you get hurt while dashing! If you total your vehicle while dashing? Make sure your insurance has a clause in it stating side jobs such as dash. Your insurance will not cover your vehicle if its not in there! I had full coverage on my vehicle with my insurance! Should mean no matter what! Iast winter i totaled my vehicle. Due to winter conditions. doordash or my former insurance company didnt do shit! Luckilly my vehicle was paid off. But, got nothing for getting another vehicle! Also, take out taxes every month! Dashing is not free money! Set aside a maintenance fund with your earnings. Bottom line? Not worth it!!!
I agree with everything you said except it being physically hard I mean come on man you're picking up food and dropping it off at people's houses
What I don’t like about this is they give you orders to be delivered at condos and apartments.
Unemployment is high right now.The market is oversaturated with drivers right now.I'm thinking it's just gonna get worse
Migrants log in whenever the map lights up, plus whenever I see them get an order they are running 2-3 phones
I love my car, we are friends, mutual respect. This job WAS great at one time, but the longer I worked the less I made... When I started I made more money then needed, one year later I had to get another job...is it worth it? No.
I feel Doordash should be sued. I've been spending hours dashing more than succeeding. I work mostly for gas and have a lower rate of profit.
My wife just quit she wants to work but with the new tier system she can't do 100 a month because no schedule available it's always only Grey
How many drivers know the actual cost of running their vehicle? How many “full time” dashers have looked up the median household income in their market? There are factors that equal probable success and some that equal possible failure. Know your operating cost and know your market. DoorDash just might not be right for you where you live.
Understand if someone's car breaks they could be homeless in a tent.
I have to do this garbage because of emergency. I literally don't touch any of these apps unless it's a dire situation like right now. I understand wanting to work on your own and being independent but the economy is not the that right now especially these crap apps.
Tried DD today for the first time on my ebike. Got a delivery after 30 min (only $4-5), and then nothing for the next 3 hours straight.
I'll try again tomorrow during the day but if it's like my first night I'm done with DD
doordash has been dead for years already.too many cheap customers and doordash being too expensive
I'm a new dasher so have nothing to say except to comment in order to help the algorithm for your excellent channel.
If you like driving do Lyft
Doordash needs to be required by law to guarantee minimum wage. And since you're using your car in the Southeast they should be guaranteed at least $18 an hour whether you're sitting or driving.
Or they need to guarantee at least $200 for an 8-hour shift
Door dash is a joke, I only did maybe 20 orders, didn’t take me long to figure it’s not worth the wear and tear on your vehicle. Just get a regular job
The promotions dont pay what they say
How about when a restaurant is out of something and you have to call the customer with no answer. Too much hassle for a $5 pay
Taxi cab vs door dash mileage???
I've slowly moving over to GH and Amazon flex. In my area, GH pays well. No bells and whistles tier crap.
Facts ! After December none will make me do this shit !
4:21 Doordash and customer are sucks lately. They are not what it use to be. I dont like those dtack order so they can pay you just one badic pay for 2. I been decline allday than accepting. My rate went down from 85 to 40 now 😅😅😅 Do I care? Not really. I am gonna focus on spark driver app more than DD. I make lot more with spark driver.
A recruiter called me today for this position Associate, Growth Merchant Lead. Do you know what that is? Is it just a driver?
DoorDash is a waste of time now